I recently pulled the trigger on the MPHS25.200-23 official Android N software update for the Moto X Pure Edition. Aside from the concerns I listed among the release notes in the rollout discussion thread, I have been reasonably satisfied with the update. However, battery life absolutely plummeted after installing it. A hard reset was executed before (and after) the update and a cache/dalvik/art wipe was completed a couple days after getting everything set up.
Battery percentage drops at record speeds while the screen is on (although standby time is still okay). Using a Nexus 6 for reference, I compared results using Ampere and didn't notice any significant difference in power use (at least while idling with the screen on). Using the CPU usage monitor tool found under the debugging panel, nothing seems out of the ordinary here either (idling and light use shows a figure in the 9s, typically).
At this point, I figured misbehaving software could be ruled out, so I turned my attention to the battery. On my laptops, I can use either the OEM's power manager application or a Windows commandline tool (in Windows 8 and newer) to generate a battery health report, showing the "design capacity" and the actual "full charge capacity" in mah, which is a very good indicator of a battery's health. I struggled to find an equivalent to this on Android, but, after some digging, did find some promising leads
The trouble is that the results aren't consistent. On the Nexus 6, running "dumpsys batterystats | grep "Capacity"" shows a "Capacity" of 3220, which just happens to match the design capacity of the Nexus 6's internal battery. Running "dumpsys batteryproperties" shows "2910000" at the bottom next to "Full charge." Since the Nexus 6 is close to 3 years old now, it would make sense that the battery is only good for 2900 mah. Everything makes sense so far...
On the Moto X Pure Edition, however, "dumpsys batterystats | grep "Capacity"" yields a puzzling "Capacity: 1948." "dumpsys batteryproperties" yields "Full charge: 1948000". This makes no sense. If "Full charge" represents the design capacity, (not taking usage into account) why would it show as only 1948 on the Moto X?
Now, I'm opening this up to the community. What do you see when you run the first command?
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dumpsys batterystats | grep "Capacity"
Do you see the expected design capacity of 3000 or do you also get a small (or smaller) number like I did?
Either way, I'd like to see people's results for the second command as well:
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dumpsys batteryproperties
How close is the resulting "Full charge" value to the rated 3000?
The battery never was a 3000mah. That was a lie.
Have you done a factory reset since the update?
I get:
estimated battery capacity : 2996 mAh
and :
ac: 0 usb: 1 wireless: 0 current_max: 0 voltage_max: 0
status: 2 health: 2 present: 1
level: 96 voltage: 4411 temp: 267
current now: -182951
charge counter: 2905046
current now: -185
cycle count: 2
Full charge: 2730600
although my battery misbehaves big time ! from full charge to 80 in less than 10 minutes.
Thank you for the input
autosurgeon said:
The battery never was a 3000mah. That was a lie.
Have you done a factory reset since the update?
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I figured as much, but not a value nearly half that! Definitely performed a hard reset, both before and after the update.
roozbeh101 said:
I get:
estimated battery capacity : 2996 mAh
and :
ac: 0 usb: 1 wireless: 0 current_max: 0 voltage_max: 0
status: 2 health: 2 present: 1
level: 96 voltage: 4411 temp: 267
current now: -182951
charge counter: 2905046
current now: -185
cycle count: 2
Full charge: 2730600
although my battery misbehaves big time ! from full charge to 80 in less than 10 minutes.
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Interesting. This is more in line with what I was expecting to see on my own system, although it's surprising to hear that your phone still misbehaves as it does.
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Interesting.
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Bought February this year:
Going to try battery replacement
At this point, I'm going to chalk the issues up to a failing battery and simply consider this a coincidence. Does anybody who has done a battery replacement recently recommend any good brands or vendors who sell a decent battery that I won't have to bend to make fit? One eBay seller who I have contacted says that he normally sells the flat ones, but will provide a curved battery in its place if the customer specifically asks for it at checkout.
It may not be a bad battery, as I had the same issues and I recently replaced my battery with a battery the seller swears is brand new, and again it is behaving exactly like the old battery.
So I am at a loss as to what to try. How do you fool the system into thinking the battery is brand new?
I just decided to check the dumpsys batterystats and it shows absolutely nothing
dumpsys does not give me any information at all, is this a permission problem?
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It may not be a bad battery, as I had the same issues and I recently replaced my battery with a battery the seller swears is brand new, and again it is behaving exactly like the old battery.
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Interesting. What time of runtime (screen-on time) are you seeing? Do you remember what seller/store you got the replacement from? Was the replacement flat or curved, like the original battery?
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I just decided to check the dumpsys batterystats and it shows absolutely nothing
dumpsys does not give me any information at all, is this a permission problem?
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Don't try "dumpsys batterystats" without the "grep "Capacity"," else you'll get so much output that the device might freeze and then reboot.
The fact that you're getting no output with either command seems unusual though. I don't know if it'd make a difference for sure, but, out of curiosity, do you have busybox installed?
Yes I have busybox installed, let me go check version.
busybox 1.27.2
I thought maybe it was because I was plugged in but I installed a terminal app get root and check it internally without it being plugged in and nothing, there is absolutely no data.
So I am at a loss as how to fix this. Something is either hijacked the system and is hiding the data or there is no data and the processes that create it have not run correctly, which then means I will have to hunt down exactly what processes create the info.
Any help would be appreciated as I've been doing stuff like this without help for decades and it gets very time consuming to track down bugs for developers that are too busy driving around in their humvee's and flying to Europe to care.
Strange output; are you running the stock rom?
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Yes I have busybox installed, let me go check version.
busybox 1.27.2
I thought maybe it was because I was plugged in but I installed a terminal app get root and check it internally without it being plugged in and nothing, there is absolutely no data.
So I am at a loss as how to fix this. Something is either hijacked the system and is hiding the data or there is no data and the processes that create it have not run correctly, which then means I will have to hunt down exactly what processes create the info.
Any help would be appreciated as I've been doing stuff like this without help for decades and it gets very time consuming to track down bugs for developers that are too busy driving around in their humvee's and flying to Europe to care.
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That's really weird that the command takes, but displays no output. My Samsung Epic (with a CyanogenMod build of Ice Cream Sandwich) simply scolds me when trying to put the commands in. The only time when I can achieve no output (on the Pure Edition or Nexus 6) is if I forget to go root before typing the commands. Are you on the stock rom?
No good, it seems
Well, I received the replacement battery today and installed it. To my surprise, however, there was almost no measurable change in runtime; I charged it up and burned down half a tank with only about 45 minutes of screen-on use! I ran those commands again, and this time, both values indicate a touch over 3000. I'll give it a few cycles to see if things return to normal, but if not, then I'm at a loss. Are there any negative consequences to "downgrading" to Marshmallow?
Unusually high power draw spotted, as reported by Ampere
Quick addendum: I tested again using a program called Ampere, and found that current draw is actually a bit on the high side. Comparing alongside the (nearly identically-configured) Nexus 6, using multi-window, I found that current draw is actually often doubled, and sometimes even tripled.
For example, when playing an HD YouTube video, the Nexus 6 maintained a draw of around 330, give or take a few dozen (fluctuating between around 300 and 430). However, the Pure Edition was between 800 and 1400, typically settling at around 1100 to 1300. Thinking that there may be some kind of software issue after all, I rebooted into "Safe Mode" and tried using the device that way, but saw no perceptible change (at least as best as I could tell without being able to run Ampere).
With that in mind, I'd like to pivot more to a discussion of what kind of power draw everybody is seeing in Ampere under light usage and video watching, regardless of what Rom or kernel you're running. Is anyone else seeing high power draw while doing relatively little?
200-22 was the ticket!
Well, this will be the second time that a weird, untraceable issue wound up being solved by flashing back to stock and upgrading. I installed that 200-22 factory image, took the new update, (October security level) and everything appears to be fine and dandy once again. Runtimes are much better and Ampere reports much lower power consumption (idling below 250ma and light use in the mid-to-low hundreds; which is much less than half of what I was seeing before).
Idle power draw (prior to restoring most of my apps) was holding steady at around 1.4% per hour, averaged over about 24 hours of non-use. And that's without any of the Amplify or Greenify tweaks.
I'll have to withhold final judgement until all of my data and software is restored, but things are looking really good so far. That "Sprint" factory image appears to have saved this Verizon-network-user's bacon.
Update...
Maybe that wasn't it after all. Battery life started tanking again within a couple of weeks after the operation, so there must be some software I'm installing that isn't playing nice somehow (even though Wakelock Detector shows no noteworthy periods of unrest). It's odd because I have almost the exact same software load on my backup phone (the Nexus 6) and can leave that thing in the backpack for days on end without it losing much charge at all, while the Pure Edition is managing to run down at a rate of about 4 percent per hour, screen-off and unused.
While the device is awake and running, Ampere shows an idle power draw of between 450 and 1000 mah, which, while (probably) not as bad as before, is still consistently higher than it should be.
The silver lining to this whole thing is that I now have so little time in the day to actually use the phone that it usually doesn't matter. If I get the chance again, I might switch back to the Nexus 6 temporarily again to troubleshoot the Pure Edition more carefully. There has to be something that I'm missing.
same issue here after updating to NPHS25.200-15-3, i have to charge the phone almost twice as before. looking at apps usage shows nothing unusual. i'm checking battery performance using accubattery
Power use figure?
hagi_mostafa said:
same issue here after updating to NPHS25.200-15-3, i have to charge the phone almost twice as before. looking at apps usage shows nothing unusual. i'm checking battery performance using accubattery
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What's your idle power draw as measured by Ampere?
Bill720 said:
What's your idle power draw as measured by Ampere?
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Check these two shots
Going to have to find the answer the hard way
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Check these two shots
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Are you running stock rooted? At this point, I'm beginning to wonder if I got a bum replacement battery, since the whole thing just shut down spontaneously on me one day at around 20%. I'll try switching back to the Nexus 6 and start over with the Pure Edition again, this time installing things one-at-a-time (or in waves while making liberal use of backup images) to see what (if anything) is not sitting right with it. The most perplexing thing of all is that I have the Pure Edition configured almost identically to the Nexus 6 in terms of tweaks and software, and yet the Nexus lasts 2-4 times longer.
Even right now, I'm sitting at 4% with about 32 minutes of screen-on time and 36 minutes of background audio playback over about 12 hours. In contrast, the Nexus 6 is at 74% with just over 1 hour of screen-on time and 52 minutes of screen-off audio playback (and yes, I do have an active Sim card installed in it too, albeit on a different carrier). In essence, the Nexus managed to do twice as much with one quarter the power draw, so I know for a fact that something is wrong, either in hardware or in software, and my experiments over the course of the coming weeks will confirm, one way or another, which is the case.
This whole experience really has soured my whole opinion of this phone. I still believe that it's one of the best smartphones ever made, but there's no doubt that it has a serious problem, and I'm disappointed by both possible outcomes. If it ends up being software, then it'll be plain that Lenovo screwed up in a big way to make it so that I could duplicate the same weird bug twice in a row with a fairly common/minimal setup that should not cause any problems. On the other hand, if it ends up being hardware, then that'll be the end of the line for this phone, plain and simple, seeing as few of the available battery replacements don't completely suck. Honestly, I'd have replaced this phone sooner, given how much time it's cost me, but there's just nothing affordable I could go to that wouldn't be a compromise. I guess the dream of "decent smartphone" just wasn't meant to be for any longer than that first year .
Bill720 said:
Are you running stock rooted? At this point, I'm beginning to wonder if I got a bum replacement battery, since the whole thing just shut down spontaneously on me one day at around 20%. I'll try switching back to the Nexus 6 and start over with the Pure Edition again, this time installing things one-at-a-time (or in waves while making liberal use of backup images) to see what (if anything) is not sitting right with it. The most perplexing thing of all is that I have the Pure Edition configured almost identically to the Nexus 6 in terms of tweaks and software, and yet the Nexus lasts 2-4 times longer.
Even right now, I'm sitting at 4% with about 32 minutes of screen-on time and 36 minutes of background audio playback over about 12 hours. In contrast, the Nexus 6 is at 74% with just over 1 hour of screen-on time and 52 minutes of screen-off audio playback (and yes, I do have an active Sim card installed in it too, albeit on a different carrier). In essence, the Nexus managed to do twice as much with one quarter the power draw, so I know for a fact that something is wrong, either in hardware or in software, and my experiments over the course of the coming weeks will confirm, one way or another, which is the case.
This whole experience really has soured my whole opinion of this phone. I still believe that it's one of the best smartphones ever made, but there's no doubt that it has a serious problem, and I'm disappointed by both possible outcomes. If it ends up being software, then it'll be plain that Lenovo screwed up in a big way to make it so that I could duplicate the same weird bug twice in a row with a fairly common/minimal setup that should not cause any problems. On the other hand, if it ends up being hardware, then that'll be the end of the line for this phone, plain and simple, seeing as few of the available battery replacements don't completely suck. Honestly, I'd have replaced this phone sooner, given how much time it's cost me, but there's just nothing affordable I could go to that wouldn't be a compromise. I guess the dream of "decent smartphone" just wasn't meant to be for any longer than that first year .
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after several cycles accubattery shows that a full battery just works no more than 3 hours. in some cases it even lasted for just one hour or less!
so of course there's something wrong here.
the issue has appeared exactly since i upgraded from 6.0.1 to version 7, both official xt1572 asia ds. just flashing boot and system files. no root custom recov or else.
so i really doubt that this could be of a hardware failure. also i'm using the same collection of apps as in rom 6.0.1 so this is not an app issue.
as accubattery shows battery health and power usage, battery health is 80% at 2580mah and power usage is high, something between 500 up to 700 mah.
the only possible cause resides in rom or flashing. i'm gonna try flashing us rom and if the problem continued, i'm gonna flashing latin ds with boot system and modems.
Gratitude for the information
hagi_mostafa said:
the issue has appeared exactly since i upgraded from 6.0.1 to version 7, both official xt1572 asia ds. just flashing boot and system files. no root custom recov or else.
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Good to know. Mine is the North American XT1575 variant, but I'm in the same boat otherwise. The trouble seemed to start almost immediately after installing the new 7.0-based update, so there's a good chance that it's related to this in some way. Mine is rooted, (stock rom/kernel, however) but it's good to know that somebody running stock is seeing the same thing.
hagi_mostafa said:
so i really doubt that this could be of a hardware failure. also i'm using the same collection of apps as in rom 6.0.1 so this is not an app issue.
as accubattery shows battery health and power usage, battery health is 80% at 2580mah and power usage is high, something between 500 up to 700 mah.
the only possible cause resides in rom or flashing. i'm gonna try flashing us rom and if the problem continued, i'm gonna flashing latin ds with boot system and modems.
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I don't think that it has anything to do with the software region. I'm on the standard North American build with the same problem, so the issue (if in software) must be a broader one. I'm going to try to switch back to the Nexus 6 today so that I can start the long process of starting over on the Pure Edition and getting to the bottom of just what causes things to crash & burn.
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I recently acquired a HTC Universal for dirt cheap, and have found the first problem to explain the low price: Whenever I'm using a "power-hungry" application (TCPMP, Internet via Wi-Fi) it eventually just blacks out. Full shutdown without warning.
When trying to reactivate the unit, it reboots as if after a soft reset.
In fact, if I try to reactivate it too quickly, even the reboot fails.
None of the above happens when on external power.
This leads me to think that it's nothing worse than a battery that's lost its mojo, but since there is no warning about low battery, and when the reboot finishes successfully even SPB says the battery is somewhere around 70%, I want to run this by you guys.
What do you think? Just go get a new battery, or is there something else going on which will make buying a new battery just a waste of money?
I'd say it's the battery, 99% sure.
I'ts gotten old and its voltage breaks down under load. If you have proper equipment and a glimpse of an idea what you're doing you should drain about 300mA from the battery and measure its output voltage.
You'll most likely see it going below 3.0V quickly.
I'm afraid I don't have that equipment, but all I really needed to hear was that it's probably the battery.
Now I can stop thinking about it and just order a new batery.
Unexpected reboot - Apparently bettery issue
Hey Holybear, my device shows exactly same symptom, If possible let us know if bat replacement solved the issue>
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I recently acquired a HTC Universal for dirt cheap, and have found the first problem to explain the low price: Whenever I'm using a "power-hungry" application (TCPMP, Internet via Wi-Fi) it eventually just blacks out. Full shutdown without warning.
When trying to reactivate the unit, it reboots as if after a soft reset.
In fact, if I try to reactivate it too quickly, even the reboot fails.
None of the above happens when on external power.
This leads me to think that it's nothing worse than a battery that's lost its mojo, but since there is no warning about low battery, and when the reboot finishes successfully even SPB says the battery is somewhere around 70%, I want to run this by you guys.
What do you think? Just go get a new battery, or is there something else going on which will make buying a new battery just a waste of money?
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I knew I wasn't the only one withthat problem. I think i've prooved it to be a battery faultt. as if you taake te battery out after it gets to that stage where you just can not get it too complete a boot up without it shuttinng down again
take out battery ,place finer oveer all battery trmminals and plug inn your mainss charger it should now boot up and runn fin off the charger unless your finger slips off the battery terminals. thisshsowws it's the temprature sensor in the battery.
I posted a more in depth reply to a guy in the wm6 threads as wifi heeaating up battery wass shutting off his device as well
@ cyberjak
Hmm, the idea that a temperature sensor in the battery causes this problems is interesting. I'd just expect the device not being cappable of rebooting instantly, because there should be a hysteresis implemented in the battery's protection circuit.
I had the exact same problems and described them elsewhere, but in my case it surely wasn't an issue of temperature.
I'd suggest to take out the battery and wait about an hour for the device and the battery to cool off. Most likely the battery will then take a complete boot but shut down soon after that - without having gotten near to "warm" yet.
If this happens you can be sure that the battery itself is dead without needing to measure anything.
Okay, to tell you what I tried:
I ran the Universal until it spontaneously went dead.
Started bootlaoder to see how much longer it would work on that. Was a bit longer, what with low energy consumption, but soon even that wouldn't stay on for long.
Then decided to try the "old wives' tale" (meaning I don't know whether there's any sense behind it or not) of putting the battery in the freezer for a little while.
When I took it out and let it get back to normal temp, I plugged it in and after a while booted the Universal. It showed 40% battery, lower than it had ever gotten lately.
Recharged for a full day.
Tried TCPMP: went dead after three minutes.
So in my experience the above didn't help battery performance.
Am going to get a new battery in a few days; I'll keep you posted on progress as I try with a fresh battery.
I had the same problem, whenever i did something cpu intensive, it would just black out.
I just bought a new 3100mAh battery. Best thing i ever did. It might be thicker now with the new battery, but it actually feels more comfortable as a phone. Plus the new battery only cost 13 odd quid, so definately well worth it. Oh and it doubles the battery life (3100/1500 = ~2... duh)
Hope that helps.
oh you know wat i have the same problem with my Jasjar and the bigest problem that there is no batteries on market for Jasjars in my country....its looks like im living in Jurassic Century!!!
If you want i can send you a battery xplayer, they're quite cheap here.
Rc-Blob said:
I had the same problem, whenever i did something cpu intensive, it would just black out.
I just bought a new 3100mAh battery. Best thing i ever did. It might be thicker now with the new battery, but it actually feels more comfortable as a phone. Plus the new battery only cost 13 odd quid, so definately well worth it. Oh and it doubles the battery life (3100/1500 = ~2... duh)
Hope that helps.
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I ordered a regular battery replacement, but maybe I'll add a 3100mAh as well.
I could use it as a media player during long train trips.
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Okay, to tell you what I tried:
I ran the Universal until it spontaneously went dead.
Started bootlaoder to see how much longer it would work on that. Was a bit longer, what with low energy consumption, but soon even that wouldn't stay on for long.
Then decided to try the "old wives' tale" (meaning I don't know whether there's any sense behind it or not) of putting the battery in the freezer for a little while.
When I took it out and let it get back to normal temp, I plugged it in and after a while booted the Universal. It showed 40% battery, lower than it had ever gotten lately.
Recharged for a full day.
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I revived two batteries by intense cycling to work quite well again. They still black out at 20%, but only under extreme load (active gsm connection, active wifi, bluetooth and having to render a webpage).
But you should be able to discharge them below 25% at least. Else they're most certainly "too dead" already. And you should do at least 3-4 cycles.
My guess would be that the freezer finished your battery off. I don't understand how this method should work anyway, as lower temperatures reduce the time affected capacity loss. Actually the best place to store a LiPo or LIo battery is the fridge, charged about half the way.
But I also ordered two 3100mAh batteries. I'm using the Uni as a laptop replacement and the permanent wifi usage together with some cpu load and the backlight kicks the battery's ass quite hard.
In Germany the China 3100mAhs are overpriced and it's hard to get your hands on an external charger, but on Ebay.co.uk there's a seller that offers battery and charger as a bundle for about 15€. This will give me a solid 6000+mAh per day and should be enough to forget about virtually every setting related to power consumption
@ xplayer
If you haven't donw already, take a look at Ebay.com, co.uk etc and look if one of the sellers there will ship to kurdistan. You may be lucky
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If you want i can send you a battery xplayer, they're quite cheap here.
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Oh Thanx Rc-Blob....bt there is No way even to send me no addresses no posting in my country...am from kurdistan of Iraq...thanks again its looks like u sent me one...bt I even have brother in USA he can't send me...except if some one come from there so i have to wait...thanks buddy...
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I revived two batteries by intense cycling to work quite well again. They still black out at 20%, but only under extreme load (active gsm connection, active wifi, bluetooth and having to render a webpage).
But you should be able to discharge them below 25% at least. Else they're most certainly "too dead" already. And you should do at least 3-4 cycles.
My guess would be that the freezer finished your battery off. I don't understand how this method should work anyway, as lower temperatures reduce the time affected capacity loss. Actually the best place to store a LiPo or LIo battery is the fridge, charged about half the way.
But I also ordered two 3100mAh batteries. I'm using the Uni as a laptop replacement and the permanent wifi usage together with some cpu load and the backlight kicks the battery's ass quite hard.
In Germany the China 3100mAhs are overpriced and it's hard to get your hands on an external charger, but on Ebay.co.uk there's a seller that offers battery and charger as a bundle for about 15€. This will give me a solid 6000+mAh per day and should be enough to forget about virtually every setting related to power consumption
@ xplayer
If you haven't donw already, take a look at Ebay.com, co.uk etc and look if one of the sellers there will ship to kurdistan. You may be lucky
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hhh ok buddy you too for care....but there is realy no way i have to wait tell some one(my brothers friend) come from USA so he can get me one from there....its ok...i can use it yet as a normal mobile...i have some other devices for multimedia right now i can wait there is no any other ways....thanks...
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If you want i can send you a battery xplayer, they're quite cheap here.
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Thanx for helping the guy,yo folks on xda are the best
Just to give you all the end of the story:
I ordered a regular replacement and a 3200 mAh one, and both have returned my Universal to a well-used life.
Thanks again to everyone helping me out here.
For you guys does the device switch off only when the battery is low, or any time. Cause I have this problem as well, and I was SURE that it wasn't a battery problem until I read this thread. The phone switches off intermittently, sometimes after only 3' talk time right after it had been charging for a full 8 hours! Also, usually if I let it sit there for a few hours I could then turn it back on and it would last a full day, so I knew it wasn't due to low battery.
The overheating theory would explain my problem, as, now that I think about it, all my seemingly-random shutdowns were during radio activity (making or receiving calls, especially when the phone was searching for signal, or wifi, which would almost instantly kill it). Strange that it overheats like this, most phone batteries simply run out of charge faster and faster until they can't hold a charge at all, but mine lasts almost as long as it always lasted even though it's 2 years old - unless I get the shutdown thing of course.
I asked this in another thread, but since this one is full of people who got replacement batteries I'll repeat my question here as well:
How much thicker than the standard battery are the 3100 and the 4200mAh ones?
I also got this problem recently, so I bought a new battery and although it's only a 1600mAh battery it runs great again
hey roodkapje ive got that same problem with my battery for my spv m5000 the bad news is that i cant get that batery in barbados so im all out to see
Hi, I've bought a nexus 4 about a month ago. I works great and the battery life is good enought but i notice that sometimes I connect the charger (when the battery is 40% full for example) and a few minutes later it says it is 100%.
Ofcourse it's not and some minutes later it drops. If I reboot the phone it shows the correct percentaje, but I happens very often.
Somebody has the same issue?
I didn't try to wipe the battery stats because I didnt install a custom recovery. Is there any way to fix it without flashing it?
thanks
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Hi, I've bought a nexus 4 about a month ago. I works great and the battery life is good enought but i notice that sometimes I connect the charger (when the battery is 40% full for example) and a few minutes later it says it is 100%.
Ofcourse it's not and some minutes later it drops. If I reboot the phone it shows the correct percentaje, but I happens very often.
Somebody has the same issue?
I didn't try to wipe the battery stats because I didnt install a custom recovery. Is there any way to fix it without flashing it?
thanks
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Most N4's have some quirky battery stat behaviour. You'll have to learn to live with it, wiping battery stats, or reflashing the stock images, or an alternative ROM, won't do anything to address this.
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Most N4's have some quirky battery stat behaviour. You'll have to learn to live with it, wiping battery stats, or reflashing the stock images, or an alternative ROM, won't do anything to address this.
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Really? SO ****ING AWESOME! haha
thanks!
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Really? SO ****ING AWESOME! haha
thanks!
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It's the first thing I noticed about the phone. I've only charged from 0 to 100 in a second once though when I first got the phone, aside from that just the occasional lazy updating of the actual percentage. Stressing the phone a bit tends to help it "catch up" to where it should be.
Edit: you know, it's good OCD therapy, it may help you get past your OCD if you have it.
If you don't have OCD, you certainly will now...
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It's the first thing I noticed about the phone. I've only charged from 0 to 100 in a second once though when I first got the phone, aside from that just the occasional lazy updating of the actual percentage. Stressing the phone a bit tends to help it "catch up" to where it should be.
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Yes, the same happened to me, the issue is that sometimes I lost track of when it plug it to the charger and after use it the battery drains. It is very annoying.
I will try to charge from 0 to 100 a few times to si if the stats sync with the real battery state...
Thank
I'm getting pretty consistent reading far as 0% - 100% goes (course I drained the battery down to zero twice and charged back up).
What I'm finding that seems rather weird is glitchy mV reading with battery monitor widget pro. It does decrease as the battery decreases as expected, what's unexpected is all the lil spikes upward in it's value over time, like every few mins it'll jump up like from 3995mv to 4040mv or similar jumps as if the widget can't get an accurate reading of the battery's mV level. So it look weird because the only time you would see the mV rising, is if you're charging it.
And I know someone else on this forums with a Nexus 4 that's actually showing positive mA values when he's not even plugged into a charger.
But as far as % reading goes, seems pretty accurate now, just the readings I'm getting from battery monitor widget had me concerned that the battery was bad on my less than a week old Nexus 4. My Nexus 7's history/stats look rock-stable by comparison, kind of wondering if it's an LG thing.
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I'm getting pretty consistent reading far as 0% - 100% goes (course I drained the battery down to zero twice and charged back up).
What I'm finding that seems rather weird is glitchy mV reading with battery monitor widget pro. It does decrease as the battery decreases as expected, what's unexpected is all the lil spikes upward in it's value over time, like every few mins it'll jump up like from 3995mv to 4040mv or similar jumps as if the widget can't get an accurate reading of the battery's mV level. So it look weird because the only time you would see the mV rising, is if you're charging it.
And I know someone else on this forums with a Nexus 4 that's actually showing positive mA values when he's not even plugged into a charger.
But as far as % reading goes, seems pretty accurate now, just the readings I'm getting from battery monitor widget had me concerned that the battery was bad on my less than a week old Nexus 4. My Nexus 7's history/stats look rock-stable by comparison, kind of wondering if it's an LG thing.
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Well this is odd... i think it might be an issue with the -kind of- voltimeter (battery sensor? i dont know how to name it). The battery life is ok up to now but the stats are driving me crazy!
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Well this is odd... i think it might be an issue with the -kind of- voltimeter (battery sensor? i dont know how to name it). The battery life is ok up to now but the stats are driving me crazy!
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Those of us who look beyond just the % available are easily driven crazy.
But then again because I do, I was able to prove a certain brand of charger was incompatible with my Nexus tablet.
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I tried to catch it in the act via adb and shell last fall pinging the voltage, fuel gauge, etc... but that was all my n00b self was good for.
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I've noticed that my battery % is off also. Not as bad as jumping up to 100% or anything, but I notice that when charging, the % is 20% higher than the actual battery. It'll say fully charged, but when I reboot the phone it'll say something like 83%. That happens a lot, and not always at '100%'. If I reboot anytime during the charging process, it drops around 20%. I haven't tried to do it right after I connect it, but every time I do actually reboot it happens. Kinda weird. Not even close to a deal-breaker or anything, just a quirk that I wouldn't mind getting fixed.
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I'm getting pretty consistent reading far as 0% - 100% goes (course I drained the battery down to zero twice and charged back up).
What I'm finding that seems rather weird is glitchy mV reading with battery monitor widget pro. It does decrease as the battery decreases as expected, what's unexpected is all the lil spikes upward in it's value over time, like every few mins it'll jump up like from 3995mv to 4040mv or similar jumps as if the widget can't get an accurate reading of the battery's mV level. So it look weird because the only time you would see the mV rising, is if you're charging it.
And I know someone else on this forums with a Nexus 4 that's actually showing positive mA values when he's not even plugged into a charger.
But as far as % reading goes, seems pretty accurate now, just the readings I'm getting from battery monitor widget had me concerned that the battery was bad on my less than a week old Nexus 4. My Nexus 7's history/stats look rock-stable by comparison, kind of wondering if it's an LG thing.
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My nexus is also showing +ve mA values while it's not charging, and the values are absolutely crazy, +268, +168, +1171
Is it a battery issue?
I have charged it completely (8 hours) many times and run it to the bottom , tried deleting battery stats etc but nothing has helped.
Shall I get the battery replaced?
tried to delete the battery stats file and wait for a while and see if any difference?
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tried to delete the battery stats file and wait for a while and see if any difference?
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Tried that multiple times but no change, what are the possibilities? Damaged battery? Damaged battery sensors on the phone?
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Tried that multiple times but no change, what are the possibilities? Damaged battery? Damaged battery sensors on the phone?
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How old is the phone?
http://pocketnow.com/android/deleting-androids-batterystatsbin-wont-grant-more-jiuce
Well Google support definitely knows this is a big problem. After I explained the exact same issues I was having with the battery indicator being wrong they offered a in warranty replacement right away with no trouble shooting what so ever. Problem was they wanted to authorize my debit card for the full price of a phone plus shipping until they received mine back. Unfortunately I didn't have 230 bucks that I could just have tied up in authorization limbo for 2 weeks. So they transferred me to LG support because they have a return policy where they let you ship the phone back first. LG at first tried to say they only do paid repairs on Nexus 4's and that google is responsible for warranty's, but a little arguing about manufacturer warranty laws in the US and threatening to file a complaint with the FCC they agreed to replace the phone under LG warranty. Again they didn't do any troubleshooting at all. Upon explaining the problem they went right into replacement phone. This leads me to believe there is no easy fix or software problem they can update, but rather a hardware problem.
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I've noticed that my battery % is off also. Not as bad as jumping up to 100% or anything, but I notice that when charging, the % is 20% higher than the actual battery. It'll say fully charged, but when I reboot the phone it'll say something like 83%. That happens a lot, and not always at '100%'. If I reboot anytime during the charging process, it drops around 20%. I haven't tried to do it right after I connect it, but every time I do actually reboot it happens. Kinda weird. Not even close to a deal-breaker or anything, just a quirk that I wouldn't mind getting fixed.
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I have exactly this behavior all of a sudden the last 2 weeks.
I have worse issues....
We had the screen/digitizer replaced after my wife dropped the phone.
The phone now has some issues. It will charge, and operate ok until the battery reaches about 80%.
Then the touch will go crazy, and the phone will turn off.
Upon rebooting, the battery is suddenly at 0%.
I purchased a new battery and installed it. It charged to 100% the first time and the phone lasted for a while.
Then after that it refused to charge at all. Didn't matter how many times I did the power + volume up trick.
I put the original battery back in, and it charges, but of course dies after it reaches 80%.
Same here. Problems after screen replacement month or two ago, not sure that related. Battery went bad. After replacement with a new one (original not chinies) not stable: shows 100% charge then turn off on in 10 min, after powered on again shows 65 % and after 10 minutes plugged in 100% charged.
Driving me crazy... Fully wiped, factory reset all the same. Rooted and wiped battery stats not helped. Very frustrating if some one can suggest one else can be done...
The phone is just fine, powerfull . no reasons to replace
I also developed my battery issue about a month after replacing the screen and digitizer. I'm going to take it apart and clean the connectors and see if that helps, because I'm so annoyed I'm about to buy a new phone.
My guess is that the battery was damaged during the screen/digitizer replacing process. It happened to me recently. No biggie 24 € for a new LG original battery seems pretty cheap and the problem was solved. But why are nowdays batteries somewhat soft??
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Hello everyone, My Note3 (SM900) is acting strangely battery-wise. It has been rooted for over a year and using custom recovery. On the last weekend I did an upgrade to Android L but the issue remains same.
After charging to %100 everything is OK until the battery hits around %70. After that point, while using phone (call or usage) signal meter shows that zero like image(no signal), phone gets freezed for a second or less, shows critical battery warning for just a moment and then it reboots. When it boots up, it says battery is at %0 or %1 and if I leave the phone alone, battery percentage starts to rise up to about where it was reset. By the way, if I try to use the phone after reboot, sometimes it just powers off just like when it does while empty battery.
I tried to reset battery stats according to a xda post but it didn't solved my issue, so I have reinstalled Android L. Issue still remains. I would buy a new battery or send the device to warranty but first I want to make sure it is related to hardware. Also I am not sure if Samsung will say device is unlocked so its out of warranty.
Any help is appriciated.
Flash another rom
That's a dead battery.
If a device shuts down at a decent percentage and then shows low percentage when it turns back on, it's time for a new battery.
Depending on where you're from you probably don't have a warranty on the battery anymore anyway, (It's mostly 6 months or a year), and it's easier and a whole lot cheaper to order a fresh battery than send your phone in for 2 weeks and deal with Samsung's KNOX policy and the mandatory research costs of around 70 quid. A new battery is about 25 quid.
ShadowLea said:
That's a dead battery.
If a device shuts down at a decent percentage and then shows low percentage when it turns back on, it's time for a new battery.
Depending on where you're from you probably don't have a warranty on the battery anymore anyway, (It's mostly 6 months or a year), and it's easier and a whole lot cheaper to order a fresh battery than send your phone in for 2 weeks and deal with Samsung's KNOX policy and the mandatory research costs of around 70 quid. A new battery is about 25 quid.
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thanks for the info. do you mind suggesting a high capacity battery instead of official samsung one?
@Kenny, i have already flashed a new rom.
erkanea said:
thanks for the info. do you mind suggesting a high capacity battery instead of official samsung one?
@Kenny, i have already flashed a new rom.
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If you don't mind the size increase (It about doubles the thickness), the ZeroLemon 10.000mAh is the ultimate way to go. That'll last you a week with intensive use. Thread with links here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2781990
If that's a bit too thick, your best bet is to nose through the Accessories board, there's quite a lot of options (And sadly I don't know them...). http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/accessories
Hi all,
I just come with this Screenshots to know your opinion on the consumption of my s5. Honestly Im jealous of those people getting 4,5hours of SOT in a full charge. I believe I can barely achieve 2h. My phone is rooted, de bloated with smart debloater and uses Greenify (which has not provided me a noticeable gain).
I've seen a very big drain just after plugging off the phone (like 5 or 6%) in two hours without using it. Also everything I unlock the phone the drain is very fast. So idle state seems no to be the cause
What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
By the way, while writing this post I've lost 5% of charge.
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Hi all,
I just come with this Screenshots to know your opinion on the consumption of my s5. Honestly Im jealous of those people getting 4,5hours of SOT in a full charge. I believe I can barely achieve 2h. My phone is rooted, de bloated with smart debloater and uses Greenify (which has not provided me a noticeable gain).
I've seen a very big drain just after plugging off the phone (like 5 or 6%) in two hours without using it. Also everything I unlock the phone the drain is very fast. So idle state seems no to be the cause
What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance.
By the way, while writing this post I've lost 5% of charge.
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Need a new battery I think and with the battery you gotta keep it cool, don't charge you phone and use it when its under 20 ℅. And the hotter the battery gets the faster it will discharge and if your charging at the same time the CPU will work harder to charge the battery and do whatever you want to do with your phone making it a double whammy wearing out your battery much faster than normal. You not supposed to let our batteries to go below 20 %. Well you can but don't use it at the same time your charging.
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Need a new battery I think and with the battery you gotta keep it cool, don't charge you phone and use it when its under 20 ℅. And the hotter the battery gets the faster it will discharge and if your charging at the same time the CPU will work harder to charge the battery and do whatever you want to do with your phone making it a double whammy wearing out your battery much faster than normal. You not supposed to let our batteries to go below 20 %. Well you can but don't use it at the same time your charging.
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Thank you very much for your information. Any suggestion about a new battery? I've seen this one.
I've just plugged off from 100% and I got a battery drain of 5% just by speaking 15 minutes (no hand-free). I think it's a very big battery drain for just a small talk. I think that confirm your hypothesis of the wasted battery.
Is there any way to know the real capacity of the battery I currently have? It is just to know how far it is from its original performance.
I've checked on Go Power Master app and it claims 2520 (at 90%) mah in my battery. Is this confident? If so, I shouldn't expect a big improvement buying a new battery. What about using other roms or making a factory reset?.
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I've checked on Go Power Master app and it claims 2520 (at 90%) mah in my battery. Is this confident? If so, I shouldn't expect a big improvement buying a new battery. What about using other roms or making a factory reset?.
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How old is your battery? Mah rating and the rate it discharges are different you can discharge 2600 mah batter in an hour or 3 days depending on use and environment and conditions. Like I said before the hotter your battery gets the faster the disharge go same with the cpu the hotter it gets the more power it demands from the battery. And if your battery get under 20% fast charging comes. Into play as well which is bad for the battery as well.
If your dropping off that fast I think is a defective battery or over clocked cpu settings. My s5 did he same till I bought a new battery I last 8-12 hours of heavy use now compared to 4 hours. With a new battery I suggest a higher capacity but same dimensions as the old one they can be expensive but a bigger battery will damage your phone over time.
I have a 5600mah battery now by 5he way.
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Oh my power app tells me I have 2520 too but I really dont....heh
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Oh that battery looks OK I can't read the language lol just make sure its not refurbished or used and check out if u can refund it or not lol
My battery is from October 2015. It's the original one that came with the phone
Here is last report:
Despite performance is not the worst, do you think the difference with a new one is very big?
Back in my S3 Mini days I had to change the battery and the difference was huge for it. A year ago I replaced my S5's battery for the first time (I own my black beauty since february 2015) and I remember that I saw an improvement in battery life and in performance a bit as well.
A trick: take out your battery and put it on a flat surface (table or whatever) and try to spin it. If it spins freely, buy new one for sure.
I'd advise you to also update from KitKat to Marshmallow as that made my phone brand new but I see you're on 6.0.1 already so nevermind
I myself lose the first ~10% of my charge in one hour or even less...while not doing literally anything with my screen off. So yeah, maybe it's gonna be time for another replacement in a few months
By the way I tried Greenify today. The drain was far worse than when I didn't have it installed lol. Android Marshmallow is finally that one guy who's capable of handling himself alone without helpers like Greenify so try without it, it eats up your CPU anyway (as minimal as it can be, it still does).
With 3G always enabled I can get between 3 and 4 hours of screen on time (no games ofcourse) and around, idk, 10 hours total time until it hits below 10% and asks for some juice.
This^ was simply impossible with android 4.4.2 on the same phone so 6.0.1 really impressed me a lot as I had awful memories of Lollipop (that's why I didn't update for so long actually).
To sum up: try all the software ways of extending your battery life - with/without Greenify, uninstall/disable/optimise certain apps like Facebook and Spotify (says they slow down my phone), change ROMs, change kernels, change settings and if nothing works get a new battery.
PS: When Samsung go back on track and put a removable battery + all old features in a new flagship, I'm switching to that (S9, S10, SX, whatever xd). Newer phones got water cooling (~30 degrees while gaming, S5 gets 36-40C).
Thank you very much for your long answer. Honestly I don't trust too much battery savers. I've tried in the past many of them with no visible results. In fact greenify has never shown me any benefit. Notwithstanding, in this specific case, I've seen that hibernating "mi fit" (from xiaomi) I can appreciate a considerable improvement (5-10% of gain). I own a mi band and apart from keeping Bluetooth on (which seems not to be a big drainer) mi fit abuses of this connection. In fact "tools & mi band" seems to be more energy efficient with the connection to the mi band.
In any case I'll order a new one as it is not normal to have the drain for 100 to 90 being off and idle
I've changed old battery for a new one and I haven't seen any considerable improvement. After it, I've done a factory reset and a battery calibration (using the app on the store that requires root) and nothing... Any suggestion? I have the feeling that new battery is OK but somehow my phone is unable to take advantage of its performance...
koragg97 said:
Back in my S3 Mini days I had to change the battery and the difference was huge for it. A year ago I replaced my S5's battery for the first time (I own my black beauty since february 2015) and I remember that I saw an improvement in battery life and in performance a bit as well.
A trick: take out your battery and put it on a flat surface (table or whatever) and try to spin it. If it spins freely, buy new one for sure.
I'd advise you to also update from KitKat to Marshmallow as that made my phone brand new but I see you're on 6.0.1 already so nevermind :..
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Ive just unplugged it 50 minutes ago and I have 10 percent left with only 10 minutes screen off... There is something wrong and I don't think the two batteries (old and new) are in bad state in the same way... There may be something else..
Have you tried to install the stock firmware through odin? PS: Read the instruction before trying it!!!
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Ive just unplugged it 50 minutes ago and I have 10 percent left with only 10 minutes screen off... There is something wrong and I don't think the two batteries (old and new) are in bad state in the same way... There may be something else..
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Make nandroid backup with TWRP and flash official firmware. That's just not normal for any kind of battery (good or bad)
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Have you tried to install the stock firmware through odin? PS: Read the instruction before trying it!!!
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Make nandroid backup with TWRP and flash official firmware. That's just not normal for any kind of battery (good or bad)
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Right now I have DreamUX V2 A7 (2017). I flashed one week ago hoping to remove this strange battery behavior. But it remains. Do you think reflashing stock firmware will fix it? I'll check instructions before going ahead. Thanks to both!
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Right now I have DreamUX V2 A7 (2017). I flashed one week ago hoping to remove this strange battery behavior. But it remains. Do you think reflashing stock firmware will fix it? I'll check instructions before going ahead. Thanks to both!
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If it gets fixed after firmware reinstall then it's a software bug. If it gets fixed after changing the battery then it's a hardware bug. If it doesn't get fixed after trying both things then it's black magic :s
Also try to clear dalvik-cache and cache and do factory reset before and after flashing.
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If it gets fixed after firmware reinstall then it's a software bug. If it gets fixed after changing the battery then it's a hardware bug. If it doesn't get fixed after trying both things then it's black magic :s
Also try to clear dalvik-cache and cache and do factory reset before and after flashing.
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OK I'll go ahead with this. Good guide to reflash stock rom?
I'll do several factory resets to see if it helps, but I start to think that it's black magic
Thanks
Sorry for the delay in replaying but I've made several attempts with not specially good results.
Now I'm getting 24 hours battery with 2h SOC for WhatsApp and browsing. Furthermore, I use Bluetooth for the miband.
The battery drop from 100 to 90 still remains. Maybe it's smoother but significant.
I've changed battery, changed roms (several times wiping everything). I've tried battery calibration app from rooted devices. I've tried the calibration procedure for non root devices (here I think I've obtained a little bit of improvement) but in general I have the feeling my phone is not detecting well the capacity of the battery (either new or old). Any tip? Advice?. Could it be the charging circuit? Can it be fixed? Should I keep doing calibrations more often to see if I grasp more capacity little by little?
Thanks for your time and help
Does anyone know that is wrong with my phone?
the standby battery life off the chart
i can get close to 9h SOT stright no problem,but if i leave it on standby i can't even get 16hours out of it
no warm,hot or something like that
i thought it was the battery but it is still the same after replace the battery
i've try anything i can find on internet
1.Disable AOD
2.Reset network setting
3.airplane mode
4.factory reset
5.screen resolution
6.adaptive brightness,adaptive power saving
7.reflash firmware
8.replace new battery
9.switch it off for 24hours(not even lose 1%)
i'm ran out of idea now
if anybody know what wrong with this phone please help me
sorry for my english ><
You might need to take it somewhere and have a tech look at it or contact Samsung on it or claim warranty with Samsung.
See if it does it in safe mode.
Probably a rogue apk(s)... a software issue.
okay i'm going to give a try on safe mode
it's still there losing a about 15% over 5 hours on idle.
Same on my note 10. Battery live just went bad over nigh, exactly 1 year after I bough the phone. So I guess this is build in to make us upgrade to the next gen phone. I won't even waste my money to replace the battery because I know it won't make any difference. Typical $am$ung
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it's still there losing a about 15% over 5 hours on idle.
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I'm running on Pie with a 10+ so you may have different issues/solutions. One of the big reasons I never upgrade; I have this phone optimized, it's fast, stable, reasonably secure and I like it. Took a lot of time to get to this point.
Lol, I'm still happily running W7x64
Probably a Google apk; Backup Transport*, Google Services Framework and Google Play Services are known offenders.
Try clearing their data.
I package block the first 2 and use Karma Firewall to block GP Services except when I need it for gmail or gmaps.
In Developer options look at running services.
Also in the same look at Standby apps; all buckets should show as active. If not then power management** is active, disable all power management; Android will manage it's self nicely.
Enable only the "Optimized" option for display/cpu and fast charging in Device Care.
Use the factory load version of Device Care if on Pie. Firewall block it though after which use it's system cache cleaner.
Download Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker from the Galaxy store.
Download Karma Firewall from Playstore.
Consider using this: https://www.packagedisabler.com/
*turning off backup Transport in goggle settings doesn't stop it and Framework is a dependency of the former I think. It needs blocked too and will still show as running but at a very reduce amount.
Occasionally even when blocked all 3 need their data cleared to stop excessive battery usage.
**track down the roque apks one by one and deal with them without using power management options.
Burllz said:
Same on my note 10. Battery live just went bad over nigh, exactly 1 year after I bough the phone. So I guess this is build in to make us upgrade to the next gen phone. I won't even waste my money to replace the battery because I know it won't make any difference. Typical $am$ung
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i completely agree with you
there no point replacing the battery like i did
Li-Ion/Li-Poly can't go bad in just 1 night unless it blow up or something
even my previous note 5 battery can take charge day in day out for over 3years without needing a new battery.
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I'm running on Pie with a 10+ so you may have different issues/solutions. One of the big reasons I never upgrade; I have this phone optimized, it's fast, stable, reasonably secure and I like it. Took a lot of time to get to this point.
Lol, I'm still happily running W7x64
Probably a Google apk; Backup Transport*, Google Services Framework and Google Play Services are known offenders.
Try clearing their data.
I package block the first 2 and use Karma Firewall to block GP Services except when I need it for gmail or gmaps.
*turning off backup Transport in goggle settings doesn't stop it and Framework is a dependency of the former I think. It needs blocked too and will still show as running but at a very reduce amount.
Occasionally even when blocked all 3 need their data cleared to stop excessive battery usage.
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i wish i can downgrade it back to pie and stay there like you did,but now i'm stuck with Bit 4 firmware can't even roll it back to OneUi 2.1
now i'm going to give a try to disable those stuff like you said xD
Burllz said:
Same on my note 10. Battery live just went bad over nigh, exactly 1 year after I bough the phone. So I guess this is build in to make us upgrade to the next gen phone. I won't even waste my money to replace the battery because I know it won't make any difference. Typical $am$ung
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Avoid charging to 100%
Avoid draining below 30%
Never charge battery if temp is below 60F and especially if freezing or below.
Ideal charging start charging temp seems to be about 80-90F
Keep battery temp below 100F whenever possible.
Shut it down or cool it if battery reaches 105F when using it.
Li's like small frequent midrange charge cycles*.
I run between 40-65% normally and fast charge it 3 to 4 times a day.
A charge takes about 10-12 minutes.
I'm at over a year and not seeing any detectable deterioration yet.
*this can extend the battery life by hundreds even thousands of full charge cycles.
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i wish i can downgrade it back to pie and stay there like you did,but now i'm stuck with Bit 4 firmware can't even roll it back to OneUi 2.1
now i'm going to give a try to disable those stuff like you said xD
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Live and learn. Play with it and sort it out.
You could always get it flashed back to the original firmware if worse comes to worst... hopefully that won't be necessary.
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Avoid charging to 100%
Avoid draining below 30%
Never charge battery if temp is below 60F and especially if freezing or below.
Ideal charging start charging temp seems to be about 80-90F
Keep battery temp below 100F whenever possible.
Shut it down or cool it if battery reaches 105F when using it.
Li's like small frequent midrange charge cycles*.
I run between 40-65% normally and fast charge it 3 to 4 times a day.
A charge takes about 10-12 minutes.
I'm at over a year and not seeing any detectable deterioration yet.
*this can extend the battery life by hundreds even thousands of full charge cycles.
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agree,this will reduce the stress on the battery except on Note4,that phone just keep asking for new battery every
6-12months no matter what i do.
for me personally i just use it as day in day out like most people do course i don't mind replacing the battery every 1-2 years as long it works the way it should,i mean not the way my S10+ does right now ><
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Live and learn. Play with it and sort it out.
You could always get it flashed back to the original firmware if worse comes to worst... hopefully that won't be necessary.
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i totally understand what you meant xD and yeah hopefully that won't be necessary.
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agree,this will reduce the stress on the battery except on Note4,that phone just keep asking for new battery every
6-12months no matter what i do.
for me personally i just use it as day in day out like most people do course i don't mind replacing the battery every 1-2 years as long it works the way it should,i mean not the way my S10+ does right now ><
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I haven't been a saint with the 10+'a battery but the insults add up if you do it every day.
Likewise being conservative with the charging and temp parameters should too.
It will be interesting how long this battery lasts as I use the phone a lot.
Accubattery to spite it's faults is a good monitoring tool. It's charge reminder is handy and it's milliamp overlay has been useful.
It also logs charge/discharge milliamps and times which is probably the best battery indicator.
speaking of discharge rate,may i know whats your?
mine was like 100ma-150ma on idle off screen thats pretty high even compare to 3 years old device
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speaking of discharge rate,may i know whats your?
mine was like 100ma-150ma on idle off screen thats pretty high even compare to 3 years old device
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Sounds normal even low for idle SOT...
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Sounds normal even low for idle SOT...
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okay noted thanks.
look like i'm going to dive deeper into this device then
not giving up on this beauty devices yet
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okay noted thanks.
look like i'm going to dive deeper into this device then
not giving up on this beauty devices yet
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Disable Android updates. Only update after others have given feedback and you have more to gain than loss. Once you update you may well need to start this witch hunt all over.
Androids are fun to play with... go to it
noted,will do
do you recommended me to rollback to 1st 4 bin Nov firmware or just stick with current firmware?
zackyo said:
noted,will do
do you recommended me to rollback to 1st 4 bin Nov firmware or just stick with current firmware?
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Depends what you want. If not sure, play with this one for a while.
I'm still running on Pie on my 10+ so I don't bother looking much at updates.
I'm not pleased with Q though so it's a no brainer to stay with Pie. At this point I have near zero issues, it's fast, stable, it does all I need it to do and runs the apps I use well.
zackyo said:
Does anyone know that is wrong with my phone?
the standby battery life off the chart
i can get close to 9h SOT stright no problem,but if i leave it on standby i can't even get 16hours out of it
no warm,hot or something like that
i thought it was the battery but it is still the same after replace the battery
i've try anything i can find on internet
1.Disable AOD
2.Reset network setting
3.airplane mode
4.factory reset
5.screen resolution
6.adaptive brightness,adaptive power saving
7.reflash firmware
8.replace new battery
9.switch it off for 24hours(not even lose 1%)
i'm ran out of idea now
if anybody know what wrong with this phone please help me
sorry for my english ><
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Dial *#0228# in telephone app , and a advanced-looking app will pop up, click on quick start, neglect any warning messages.