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Can i upgrade my system somehow ?

Hello Guy's
I bought this unit in China : nl.aliexpress.com/item/In-Dash-Android-4-2-2-CPU-Double-2-Din-Car-GPS-Nav-DVD-Stereo-Headunit/2021907492.html
Please could someone tell me or if its possible to upgrade this system because for now it's sucks can't use SD card to store any app's or maps from Here.
Some info :
Hardware information : Dual Core - Rom 4GB - DDR3 1GB
Kernel version : Linux 3.4.39
OS Version : Android v4.4 - BSP 1.11 20160323
APP Version : AW A8001-APP 1.11
MCU Version : 1.11.0.0.
So i would be very happy when it would be possible, please let me know and thanks in advance.
Erwin

I think i have the same one, and I am not really happy with it as it is rather slow. It is hard to find more information on this device, I only found this russian thread.

Hi Marsius,
Yes same problem here, and you can't use another SD card to put app's on because it's not possible to move to SD card
System is indeed very slow, i have read the russian site, with google translate i can make a lot of it but i think it's not very safe to use any of the firmware they mention because i don't know or it's safe !!
So still the question from us, and you offcourse is there any guy or girl in this forum who can help us ??
Thanks..
Erwin

Thanks to the members on this thread I was at least find the instruction manual for this head unit. The head unit is a Bosion BX410 or so the PDF says, reading through it does look to be identical.
My first impressions on the head unit were wow, but this was based on my old head unit from a 14 year old SAAB. So you can imagine going from that to this was quite a step.
So now that I've lived with the unit for a couple of weeks now the shine has tarnished a little. The reason I say that is although the unit looks very customisable but in fact it's not really. Installing your own music apps isn't really workable as when you get an incoming call the player doesn't automatically pause. Have you ever tried talking a call with music in the background.
I have seen the unit pop up with an update a couple of times but I've never had a good enough data connection to download it. And when I have it throws back an unknown error. I bought this from eBay from a seller in Hong Kong so I'm going to message them to see if they can help.
Guy
New info, got a message from the seller I bought the unit from telling me they are going to upload the update I've been having hassle downloading. Then send me a link to the update. I'll keep you posted to how I get on.

Update
Ok further to my request for the update from the seller they actually pulled through and sent me the whole thing. Installed it without really any problems but don't really notice that much difference from the original. The most instant thing that I did notice was the boot logo changed. I've been into the settings and noticed it has changed the OS but I didn't write down what it was, perhaps because so little changed. I guess the most important thing is that it still works after the update. Overall happy with the unit so guess I've leave be. Yeah the boot time is slow but once it's up and running no real issues.
If anyone wants how have a go at the update then give me a shout and I'll forward it on. But you take the risk installing it, don't blame me if it goes tits up.
Thanks
Guy

kizmestar said:
Ok further to my request for the update from the seller they actually pulled through and sent me the whole thing. Installed it without really any problems but don't really notice that much difference from the original. The most instant thing that I did notice was the boot logo changed. I've been into the settings and noticed it has changed the OS but I didn't write down what it was, perhaps because so little changed. I guess the most important thing is that it still works after the update. Overall happy with the unit so guess I've leave be. Yeah the boot time is slow but once it's up and running no real issues.
If anyone wants how have a go at the update then give me a shout and I'll forward it on. But you take the risk installing it, don't blame me if it goes tits up.
Thanks
Guy
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Hi Guy,
Can you see what version software now is installed on the device ?
Thanks.
Erwin

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Dreamcatcher2007 said:
Hi Guy,
Can you see what version software now is installed on the device ?
Thanks.
Erwin
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Erwin
HU still running since update but still don't really notice really what it added or bugs it fixed. Google play services still crashes from time to time, but it's always done that I usually just disable until I want to download something from the play store.
I'm not really complaining as it's a vast improvement over my 14 year old SAAB unit. Still that wouldn't be hard. :angel:
HU Software Version
Kernel Version
Linux 3.4.39 - Sat May 28 14:13:57 CST 2016
OS Version
Android v4.4 - BSP 1.15 - 20160531
APP Version
APP 1.15
MCU Version
1.12.0.01-20160425-68567719T
Guy

Hi man
please share the firmware v1.15 or later

@kizmestar could you please share the Firmware with us? Would be great. Thanks a lot.
Gesendet von meinem Redmi Note 2 mit Tapatalk

Firmware link
Hi, only have it on my hard drive I'll get round to uploading it this weekend then post the link. Please note that I found it didn't really do a great deal. Apart from the boot screen changing and the update app disappearing that is all I noticed about it.
Please note you install this at your own risk, I'm no expert in hacking android devices and can't offer any real advice. Other than the fact it did install ok and didn't brick my device. There are also detailed install instructions but these have been translated from Chinese. But they are perfectly understandable.
Look out for a link over the weekend.
Thanks
Guy

Firmware link
OK, as promised. I have uploaded the files to my OneDrive account. Please let me know if you have any issues with the link.
Remember always post back how you get on and what you find about this update, it my help others.
Guy
https://1drv.ms/f/s!AgbAkT2w3Ng_gcc18WAdFXLCrfzqzQ

kizmestar said:
Ok further to my request for the update from the seller they actually pulled through and sent me the whole thing. Installed it without really any problems but don't really notice that much difference from the original. The most instant thing that I did notice was the boot logo changed. I've been into the settings and noticed it has changed the OS but I didn't write down what it was, perhaps because so little changed. I guess the most important thing is that it still works after the update. Overall happy with the unit so guess I've leave be. Yeah the boot time is slow but once it's up and running no real issues.
If anyone wants how have a go at the update then give me a shout and I'll forward it on. But you take the risk installing it, don't blame me if it goes tits up.
Thanks
Guy
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Hi Friend,
I bought the same unit but my one is BX420 with Quad Core 1G RAM. But now I cannot boot and it is in the Android Boot Loop.
My Seller is not replying to my messages. Can you help me check with your seller if there is any firmware I can download for it?
Thanks alot.

I was hoping if someone on the blog can get me the Full .apk for
Bosion BX-411 T2. There is lots of people on this blog with this Stereo. Use Root Browser and grab the folder or all folders.
Kernel Version
Linux 3.4.39 - Sat May 28 14:13:57 CST 2016
OS Version
Android v4.4 - BSP 1.15 - 20160531
APP Version
APP 1.15

Car head unit file
hi, can you post it again, its no longer available on drive. Thanks
kizmestar said:
Hi, only have it on my hard drive I'll get round to uploading it this weekend then post the link. Please note that I found it didn't really do a great deal. Apart from the boot screen changing and the update app disappearing that is all I noticed about it.
Please note you install this at your own risk, I'm no expert in hacking android devices and can't offer any real advice. Other than the fact it did install ok and didn't brick my device. There are also detailed install instructions but these have been translated from Chinese. But they are perfectly understandable.
Look out for a link over the weekend.
Thanks
Guy
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joying 6.0 update , gps not working with navigation apps

updated from 5.1 to 6.0 with no problems except that GPS is eratic on all navigation apps didnt have this problem before update

Did you apply the no-kill fix?

Thanks for responding
I did not know about this fix, where can I get it and do I download thru SD card

bogdi1988 said:
Did you apply the no-kill fix?
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make sure the time is set correctly and that you don't use auto network time. There a glitch in the auto time that messes with google service/maps/music/internet if the time gets set wrong.
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vinhZ said:
make sure the time is set correctly and that you don't use auto network time. There a glitch in the auto time that messes with google service/maps/music/internet if the time gets set wrong.
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also for me, sometimes when starting from a instant wake, the gps won't get a reliable fix until I restart the headunit from the notification curtain.

Set auto time off
I did set auto time off which did not help having problem with navigation apps losing location and speed. Waze and Google worked great before 6.0 update

Joying just released the latest May Rom and MCU file on the joying blog.
Don't bother with the MCU upgrade, unless your not at 2017-03-08 MCU then it would be required.
Both New Rom and MCU are both 2017-03-07 MCU ??? No change their.
Also I didn't get google maps either? After I installed it, had to manually install.
https://www.carjoying.com/Joying-blog/59.html
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Same Problem
I'm having the same problem. My Waze and Google maps are useless since it has me jumping all over. Started after the first 6.0 update and continued after the 5/8 update. For some reason my MCU still shows to be from 12/16. Does that not automatically update? Do I need to manually do it?

yebokmj said:
I'm having the same problem. My Waze and Google maps are useless since it has me jumping all over. Started after the first 6.0 update and continued after the 5/8 update. For some reason my MCU still shows to be from 12/16. Does that not automatically update? Do I need to manually do it?
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Yes the MCU is seperate, check Joying blog and its bellow all of the May android updates
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Still a problem
I have updated the MCU and nothing has changed. Does anyone have a fix for this? My unit is useless for Navigation.

yebokmj said:
I have updated the MCU and nothing has changed. Does anyone have a fix for this? My unit is useless for Navigation.
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Are u sure is not cable problem or something in settings GPS?
becouse it work without touch here

I'm thinking it might be something with the unit at this point. It was a little off since I bought it. The antenna is from my previous generation rockchip 5.1 an I never had issues. It became unusable with the 6.0 update.

I know this is an old thread, but there have to be people out there who continue to have this problem- I am one of them. When I first got my Joying unit (when it had 5.1) the navigation performed flawlessly. Then I upgraded to 6.0 and it's very sluggish. It finds GPS, but it seems to only update one every 30 seconds or so, so that's useless. And now that Joying has a new site, all the old links in these threads are useless too. Anyone have any solution to this issue? I've been updating the unit as Joying has provided them...

I'm on the gtxspec custom rom now
Waze doesn't work well but Google Maps does fine. I'm going to add active cooling and see if that helps. I think Waze is a resource hog.

yebokmj said:
I'm on the gtxspec custom rom now
Waze doesn't work well but Google Maps does fine. I'm going to add active cooling and see if that helps. I think Waze is a resource hog.
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Odd, Waze works fine for me, I use it everyday, it's my most used app! It always runs whenever the car is on...
In what way does Waze not work???

gtxaspec,
I assume you are running active cooling? I've posted before in your ROM thread. I looses GPS signal constantly even thought car setting shows the GPS signal is strong. It will also sometimes loose network connection, between these two things it does't know where you are half the time. If I use google maps there is no problem. I think it's a resource issue that it's using to much and heating up everything. I'm going to add active cooling and hope that addresses it.

So far it seems active cooling is the answer. The whole unit worked better than ever and Waze didn't have a single glitch only a 20 minute drive though.

I am on intel sofia 5009 board, firmware Jan 2018. I have found the solution for GPS and quick boot up. The main culprit is bluetooth, second is heat. It seems the bluetooth never turns off, can't be turned off, can't be reseted. Appears to be a software issue making bluetooth running overtime. When my car is parked under the sun it takes a while for GPS to work.
My GPS has been working since I stop using bluetooth. Unit never turns off, quick boot works all the time. If you have connected to bluetooth before, you have to remove the radio fuse for a minute to properly turn off bluetooth on the board. Simply not connecting to bluetooth doesn't seem to work.
Hope this helps people struggling with the same issue for years, where Joying provided no support.
I hope a smart programmer can provide a software fix for bluetooth.

Help! Seicane S18JP25 Quad Core/Android 7.1.2 drops bluetooth phone after 2 seconds!

Stock ROM from Seicane ~4 weeks ago. The unit pairs with the cell phone for ~2 seconds and then drops the connection. If I'm quick, I can actually place a call that goes through the handset and places a call that uses the handset speaker.
I tested on a Leeco Pro3 and an Alcatel phone. This is a show stopper but the unit is installed and it was shipped direct from China so replacing it is a big deal. HELP!
Has anyone else seen this?

i have this unit, I have not had any issues with Bluetooth. I did a 6 hour road trip, listening to Bluetooth the whole time. I was connected to a Moto Z2 Force.
What is your About Device screen showing? maybe you need an update, i just updated my MCU to the latest KSP
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...-development/mtcd-ksp-firmware-t3607398/page4

CadillacMike said:
i have this unit, I have not had any issues with Bluetooth. I did a 6 hour road trip, listening to Bluetooth the whole time. I was connected to a Moto Z2 Force.
What is your About Device screen showing? maybe you need an update, i just updated my MCU to the latest KSP
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...-development/mtcd-ksp-firmware-t3607398/page4
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Thanks CadillacMike. I checked and I have the same MCU as you do. So I did a factory reset (on Seicane's advice, sort of, it's little hard to guess what they were trying to say). It didn't fix anything but blew away IGO and maybe a few other things.
Then I tried a 3rd phone; my son's Moto G4 paired quickly and perfectly.
Next up:
Recover the missing pieces from the factory reset.
Update/change/whatever to get my phone to behave.
EDIT: Got it working. Burned my phone with a custom ROM: ResurrectionRemix. No idea why this worked but the hint came from some else with a similar andoid head and a LeeCo phone. Likely hopeless for the Alcatel phone but that is unimportant for me.
As small thank, maybe you would enjoy a Jeep icon for your IGO map? Put the attached files in \igo\content\car Then in settings -> map options change the 3d car to one of the selected

hey thanks, but i dont use iGo, i just use Google Maps.
I also got Seicane headlights:
https://youtu.be/N4W8oE0twsM
and here are a couple of videos about the same head unit:
https://youtu.be/5cavKcYauSk
https://youtu.be/MWVsNWZjeCQ

I updated my software and it looks cool

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I updated my software and it looks cool
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What did you update to? The pictures aren't loading for me.
I like unit so much that I might leave it alone for awhile and have something to play with later when a 10" screen in the dash seems like an everyday thing.

It was the October 26th update for PX3 that was in the Dasaita thread

Pictures aren't loading for me either

CadillacMike said:
It was the October 26th update for PX3 that was in the Dasaita thread
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I can see the pictures now. Looks great, thanks for the pictures. Did you have to reinstall all the apps and settings? Now that everything is working on mine I am trying to resist rehashing the whole thing.
Well, trying to resist anyway.

tlyonstlyons said:
I can see the pictures now. Looks great, thanks for the pictures. Did you have to reinstall all the apps and settings? Now that everything is working on mine I am trying to resist rehashing the whole thing.
Well, trying to resist anyway.
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No, there a box you can check to wipe everything, but I didnt check it.
It kept all my stuff intact

tlyonstlyons said:
Stock ROM from Seicane ~4 weeks ago. The unit pairs with the cell phone for ~2 seconds and then drops the connection. If I'm quick, I can actually place a call that goes through the handset and places a call that uses the handset speaker.
I tested on a Leeco Pro3 and an Alcatel phone. This is a show stopper but the unit is installed and it was shipped direct from China so replacing it is a big deal. HELP!
Has anyone else seen this?
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Whats happened on the mazdas with all chinese units
People were having issues having their cell phones even connect. It was duento the issue of having the device paired with the old radio.. which i had with my so480.
I had to reinstall the old radio, unpair all devies from it then reinstall the new radio and pair up and has worked fine ever since. Now as to why i dont know as the aftermarket radio used its own bluetooth connections as the canbus only let the radio sync up with the steering wheel functions. Hopefully you get it fixed.

Intel Joying Android JLY128N - Bluetooth CALL quality / noone can hear me at all.

Basically, whether I have the external MIC plugged in, or disconnected absolutely noone can hear me. They say I sound like I am very far away. I am forced to switch to my handset so they can hear me. I have tried with other external MIC's and got the same results. I haven't tried any noise canceling MIC's or amplified MIC's (if they exist).. What MIC's are you using and how are you getting callers to hear you?
Am I needing to open my unit and disconnect the internal MIC? If I do this, will the external MIC still work (or are they on the same circuit?)

Need4Camaro said:
Basically, whether I have the external MIC plugged in, or disconnected absolutely noone can hear me. They say I sound like I am very far away. I am forced to switch to my handset so they can hear me. I have tried with other external MIC's and got the same results. I haven't tried any noise canceling MIC's or amplified MIC's (if they exist).. What MIC's are you using and how are you getting callers to hear you?
Am I needing to open my unit and disconnect the internal MIC? If I do this, will the external MIC still work (or are they on the same circuit?)
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I don't think you will need to disconnect the internal mic. In my opinion and testing, the problem with the call sound quality is software related.
One thing you can try is revoking the microphone permission on the Google app. Then try making make a phone call. To do this, Go to Settings...Apps.... Scroll down to the Google app and touch Permissions. Turn off the microphone permission and try making a phone call to see if the sound quality improves. Alternatively you can completely uninstall the Google app and try making a phone call.
It seems the Google app ties up the microphone. However, bear in mind, revoking the microphone permission will disable the "Ok Google" capability. Hope this helps.

PoppaRoxie1986 said:
I don't think you will need to disconnect the internal mic. In my opinion and testing, the problem with the call sound quality is software related.
One thing you can try is revoking the microphone permission on the Google app. Then try making make a phone call. To do this, Go to Settings...Apps.... Scroll down to the Google app and touch Permissions. Turn off the microphone permission and try making a phone call to see if the sound quality improves. Alternatively you can completely uninstall the Google app and try making a phone call.
It seems the Google app ties up the microphone. However, bear in mind, revoking the microphone permission will disable the "Ok Google" capability. Hope this helps.
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Yes, disable ok Google "everywhere" and it should work OK...any app that takes over the microphone and is on when a call is placed will mess with the call quality.

Make sure you don't change the microphone option in the special settings. I made a change to "external microphone" since I'm using the 3.5 mm jack and no one was able to hear me.
I believe it needs to be set to internal microphone. It was in the special settings that required a password, I believe.

PoppaRoxie1986 said:
I don't think you will need to disconnect the internal mic. In my opinion and testing, the problem with the call sound quality is software related.
One thing you can try is revoking the microphone permission on the Google app. Then try making make a phone call. To do this, Go to Settings...Apps.... Scroll down to the Google app and touch Permissions. Turn off the microphone permission and try making a phone call to see if the sound quality improves. Alternatively you can completely uninstall the Google app and try making a phone call.
It seems the Google app ties up the microphone. However, bear in mind, revoking the microphone permission will disable the "Ok Google" capability. Hope this helps.
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Thank you for this information, I would definitely like to keep google commands however, is there any way I can just have these settings revoked when someone calls me and re-enabled after the call?

Quiksmage said:
Make sure you don't change the microphone option in the special settings. I made a change to "external microphone" since I'm using the 3.5 mm jack and no one was able to hear me.
I believe it needs to be set to internal microphone. It was in the special settings that required a password, I believe.
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I may have changed this in hindsite, what is the password to get into these settings? I forgot.

Need4Camaro said:
I may have changed this in hindsite, what is the password to get into these settings? I forgot.
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3368

if it is the 5009 model motherboard you most probably have lose solder joints between the core and the motherboard,
resolder them well

Need4Camaro said:
Thank you for this information, I would definitely like to keep google commands however, is there any way I can just have these settings revoked when someone calls me and re-enabled after the call?
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There is a dialer app, GVC call handler for joying units available on the play store and included in the GTX custom rom that will kill the Google task just before dialing a phone number.
Also there is an Xposed module that will keep the joying Bluetooth app from staying on top. I don't know if @gtxaspec or @surfer64 included any kind of mechanism with it which would kill Google only while a call is in progress and relaunch it when the call ends. But it is a good idea.
Please give my earlier suggestion a try to see if your call sound quality improves. That would at least let you know if indeed the problem is being caused by the Google app and if your mic is working properly.

PoppaRoxie1986 said:
There is a dialer app, GVC call handler for joying units available on the play store and included in the GTX custom rom that will kill the Google task just before dialing a phone number.
Also there is an Xposed module that will keep the joying Bluetooth app from staying on top. I don't know if @gtxaspec or @surfer64 included any kind of mechanism with it which would kill Google only while a call is in progress and relaunch it when the call ends. But it is a good idea.
Please give my earlier suggestion a try to see if your call sound quality improves. That would at least let you know if indeed the problem is being caused by the Google app and if your mic is working properly.
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Okay so here is what I am running into now. When I go to settings and then apps and then Google, I see the permissions, and I can even select Microphone, but I do not get an option at all to disable the permission. It just gives me a popup window with the description and thats all.
Also with the GVC Call handler app, I have downloaded it but when I say "Okay Google Call (name)" it replies "I'm sorry, but I am not able to make calls at this time."
Am I doing something wrong?
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if it is the 5009 model motherboard you most probably have lose solder joints between the core and the motherboard,
resolder them well
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I can't tell what model motherboard it is but I do not feel comfortable soldering on the device.
Quiksmage said:
Make sure you don't change the microphone option in the special settings. I made a change to "external microphone" since I'm using the 3.5 mm jack and no one was able to hear me.
I believe it needs to be set to internal microphone. It was in the special settings that required a password, I believe.
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I went to Advanced Vehicle settings and did not see this option.
I also went to Developers Options and also did not see this option.
Am I missing something?

Need4Camaro said:
Okay so here is what I am running into now. When I go to settings and then apps and then Google, I see the permissions, and I can even select Microphone, but I do not get an option at all to disable the permission. It just gives me a popup window with the description and thats all.
Also with the GVC Call handler app, I have downloaded it but when I say "Okay Google Call (name)" it replies "I'm sorry, but I am not able to make calls at this time."
Am I doing something wrong?
I can't tell what model motherboard it is but I do not feel comfortable soldering on the device.
I went to Advanced Vehicle settings and did not see this option.
I also went to Developers Options and also did not see this option.
Am I missing something?
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Hmm I'm not sure why you wouldn't be able to revoke that permission. The microphone setting that Quiks was referring to is in the Car Settings app on the far right menu that requires the 3368 password. The workaround for the can't make calls yet requires the dpi to be changed, which requires the unit to be rooted. The joying extra tools app found here on xda can be used to change the dpi and do many other cool mods.

PoppaRoxie1986 said:
Hmm I'm not sure why you wouldn't be able to revoke that permission. The microphone setting that Quiks was referring to is in the Car Settings app on the far right menu that requires the 3368 password. The workaround for the can't make calls yet requires the dpi to be changed, which requires the unit to be rooted. The joying extra tools app found here on xda can be used to change the dpi and do many other cool mods.
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I'm still using Android 5.1 could this be the issue? I didn't want to upgrade to 6 because I heard alot of people were having problems with it.
Also how compatible is a USB or Bluetooth MIC to the unit?

Need4Camaro said:
I'm still using Android 5.1 could this be the issue? I didn't want to upgrade to 6 because I heard alot of people were having problems with it.
Also how compatible is a USB or Bluetooth MIC to the unit?
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Ah that likely explains the permission thing. I have not experienced 5.1 on my unit as it came preloaded with 6.0. Also I'm running the gtx custom rom which is android 6.0 based on my unit.
Too bad we don't have a way to go back to 5.1 once it's been updated to 6.0.

PoppaRoxie1986 said:
Ah that likely explains the permission thing. I have not experienced 5.1 on my unit as it came preloaded with 6.0. Also I'm running the gtx custom rom which is android 6.0 based on my unit.
Too bad we don't have a way to go back to 5.1 once it's been updated to 6.0.
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Yeah thats why I have been afraid of upgrading as mostly everything works.
I heard that 6.0 doesn't support USB Storage (and I have a 1 Terabyte USB Hard Drive filled with MP3's and Videos stuffed in my dash) and I don't want to lose that.
Does the GTX custom ROM support USB storage? Google Voice without mods? Multiple NAV Apps (5.1 only allowed you to use one NAV app as a default app and the rest would have no audio, it was fixed with an Sofia Server mod or something.) Open Bluetooth?

Its getting worse, even google commands are having a difficult time hearing me now.
Is there any external mic I could use that may solve this problem?

Need4Camaro said:
I can't tell what model motherboard it is but I do not feel comfortable soldering on the device.
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5009 motherboard from Joying
picture attached
the Core is soldered to motherboard... all those pins have a chance of getting lose
5009 model sold mostly in late 2016 and earlier 2017. since late 2017 Joying moved away to 6021 motherboards again with no soldering.
Android 6 ROM is working great and updated still monthly , I would recomend that for intel Sofia .
if that does not fix it you need soldering repair.

doctorman said:
5009 motherboard from Joying
picture attached
the Core is soldered to motherboard... all those pins have a chance of getting lose
5009 model sold mostly in late 2016 and earlier 2017. since late 2017 Joying moved away to 6021 motherboards again with no soldering.
Android 6 ROM is working great and updated still monthly , I would recomend that for intel Sofia .
if that does not fix it you need soldering repair.
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I'll try Android 6 but if that doesn't work its going in the trash. I need a better quality unit I've had nothing but trouble out of Joying and the rest of the Android HU's I've had. They would last about a year and in some way or another become dysfunctional. This would be my third unit and I thought for sure with Intel that this would be the one.
I really want to just make my own unit base on an Intel Pico Motherboard. The only thing stopping me is I'm not sure what LCD's would be compatible with Android or not.

Need4Camaro said:
I'll try Android 6 but if that doesn't work its going in the trash. I need a better quality unit I've had nothing but trouble out of Joying and the rest of the Android HU's I've had. They would last about a year and in some way or another become dysfunctional. This would be my third unit and I thought for sure with Intel that this would be the one.
I really want to just make my own unit base on an Intel Pico Motherboard. The only thing stopping me is I'm not sure what LCD's would be compatible with Android or not.
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I have had my mtcB Joying unit with android 4.4.4 still running in my car after many years with no problem
I do repairs for all USA customers for Joying, the only unit Joying had major issues with is that 5009 motherboard.
what other units have you tried and what issues have you had.

doctorman said:
I have had my mtcB Joying unit with android 4.4.4 still running in my car after many years with no problem
I do repairs for all USA customers for Joying, the only unit Joying had major issues with is that 5009 motherboard.
what other units have you tried and what issues have you had.
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The first one was a 4.4.4 unit which had bad mic issues. I soldered an external MIC and that worked well but eventually the unit became sluggish even after factory resets to the point where it became unusable plus it was only 8GB (5 usable) and didn't have enough space for apps.
I swapped out for my first Android 5.1.1 unit but it had serious GPS problems right out the box and they were not willing to address it, Google Maps / Waze would randomly lose position and would stop tracking my location entirely (literally telling me I am someplace that I am several miles from) while the space and ram concerns were addressed, I tried to resolve the navigation issues but ended up bricking the unit.
Then swapped out to my current one. Current one was horrible right out the box, no Ok Google commands, could only use one Navigation app, bluetooth calls were exceptional at the time but not exactly great, no bluetooth functionality outside of pairing phones. I eventually modded based on the rollup thread and got Ok Google commands to work, could not use them to text or make calls though. Tried the GVCall Handler but didn't work but I am finding I have to change my DPI settings to fix that. Bluetooth calls slowly began losing quality and over time I began to have GPS problems as well, It would stop updating my location or randomly point me in the wrong direction. Fixed by adding a heatsink and fan to the unit. Now I absolutely must switch to my handset to make calls because absolutely noone can hear me when I make bluetooth calls, and the google app is misunderstanding me.

Need4Camaro said:
The first one was a 4.4.4 unit which had bad mic issues. I soldered an external MIC and that worked well but eventually the unit became sluggish even after factory resets to the point where it became unusable plus it was only 8GB (5 usable) and didn't have enough space for apps.
I swapped out for my first Android 5.1.1 unit but it had serious GPS problems right out the box and they were not willing to address it, Google Maps / Waze would randomly lose position and would stop tracking my location entirely (literally telling me I am someplace that I am several miles from) while the space and ram concerns were addressed, I tried to resolve the navigation issues but ended up bricking the unit.
Then swapped out to my current one. Current one was horrible right out the box, no Ok Google commands, could only use one Navigation app, bluetooth calls were exceptional at the time but not exactly great, no bluetooth functionality outside of pairing phones. I eventually modded based on the rollup thread and got Ok Google commands to work, could not use them to text or make calls though. Tried the GVCall Handler but didn't work but I am finding I have to change my DPI settings to fix that. Bluetooth calls slowly began losing quality and over time I began to have GPS problems as well, It would stop updating my location or randomly point me in the wrong direction. Fixed by adding a heatsink and fan to the unit. Now I absolutely must switch to my handset to make calls because absolutely noone can hear me when I make bluetooth calls, and the google app is misunderstanding me.
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when did you buy your unit, perhaps we can have it repaired or upgraded under warranty?
email me directly and I will see what I can do .
the mtcB model was solid
the mtcD model had some software issue that are resolved in the final ROM.
5009 motherboards as I suspect you have has soldering issue
the 6021 models have been solid so far
PX5 models are new and too early to comment on
I sell Joying unit myself too and offer USA warranty on my units , so if you are in USA, contact me if you need anything.

Atoto S8 Ultra keeps hard resetting itself

I see Atoto is not as popular a brand around here as Joying and others, but it seems like some of the hardware is very very similar. It kind of reminds me of the TV boxes (MXQ, etc) that were all essentially the same SoC and board sold under different branding.
Here is the unit I currently have:
https://www.amazon.com/ATOTO-Andriod-Car-Dash-Navigation/dp/B08HNL9753/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2AY6ZU3J4HAZ1&keywords=atoto+s8+ultra&qid=1677690001&sprefix=atoto+s8+ultra%2Caps%2C71&sr=8-3
It was working fine for about 8-9 months, and then suddenly back in December I started the car and found it had reset itself. All my backup camera lines I had painstakingly placed, all my apps I had installed and signed into, I had to do it all over again. Everything was reset to default factory. Aside from the Bluetooth system, actually, which I found interesting. The BT module is separate and controlled by the MCU, if I understand correctly? So that memory didn't get reset- going into the bluetooth app shows me that my previously paired phones are still there. Just the storage for the Android system reset.
Customer support said maybe it was something I installed, so I tried leaving out any customer launchers, etc. It happened again about a month later. Customer support suggested trying a firmware update. I didn't think that would fix it, because AFAIK firmware doesn't go BAD, but I tried it. Sure enough about 2 weeks after that, it reset AGAIN. In fact, it is getting alarming because it is happening more frequently now. My wife was driving the car and using maps on the screen when it reset ON THE HIGHWAY. She said it rebooted and when it came back up, none of our apps or offline maps were there, it just decided now is a good time to reboot itself and leave her without our downloaded maps. NOT COOL.
I'm trying to reach out to Atoto support, in the past they've been good but lately I feel like I'm getting the run around with them. I've had this problem for almost 3 months.
BTW, I don't have much experience with any other Android powered unit, so I'm a little bit confused as to what this one is considered or how to find help from the community for it. If I can't solve the problem, I'd like to at least root it and use some sort of app to take a backup image of the apps and settings so I can restore it next time this happens. But ideally I'd like to root it.
So I guess what I'm asking is,
1) Outside of Atoto's branding, are these radios mostly standard SoCs that can have firmware flashed over each other? How do I identify what I actually have to look for support?
2) Does anyone know why this might be happening and what can be done about it?
3) Is there a way to do a storage dump image of the apps/settings to restore easily- preferably without root since I don't have a rooted unit, or with root if that is achievable?