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Confused Noob+H990DS - Unlock/Root+TWRP Official Custom ROM possible (W/ 2. Screen)?

hi folks!
I am pretty confused now. I am looking to get the V20 H990DS, but i am more confused now after reading here. My questions:
1. Is Bootloader unlock possible?
2. Can i install TWRP?
3. Can i root?
4. There is LOS official i know, but is the problem with 2. screen now fixed / going to be fixed?
Seems so good of a device, but i am insecure about it now after reading here. My old Mi4/Cancro is one of the best supported phones out there, so i dont expect it to be the same with V20, but i need working LOS with Root and working 2. screen (or the outlook on it working in the future) to be confident in buying it.
I hope you forgive me my nood questions,
Greetings

With sadly no replys, let me add what i know now:
1. + 2. + 3. Still no easy way in sight AFAIK. EDIT: To be clear: There IS a way, Dirty Santa, but the instructions are somewhat too complicated to be confident with trying. Have had rooted Phones with custom ROMs since over 5 years and never again a stock device, but i dont dare it. The 300€ i payed are much to much to have spend it on a bricked device. Will try to find more dirty Santa noob friendly explanations and post them here. EDIT2: For those who DO dare it, here the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/dirtysanta-h990-t3624296
4. Second screen still a problem, nothing new heard for quite a long time.
Anyone with knowledge to add or correct, please help! Stock ROM is not as bad as i thought, but without Root, Android is not fully usable for me.

thank you pro for this thread
very useful for me.

Stele88 said:
With sadly no replys, let me add what i know now:
1. + 2. + 3. Still no easy way in sight AFAIK. EDIT: To be clear: There IS a way, Dirty Santa, but the instructions are somewhat too complicated to be confident with trying. Have had rooted Phones with custom ROMs since over 5 years and never again a stock device, but i dont dare it. The 300€ i payed are much to much to have spend it on a bricked device. Will try to find more dirty Santa noob friendly explanations and post them here. EDIT2: For those who DO dare it, here the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/dirtysanta-h990-t3624296
4. Second screen still a problem, nothing new heard for quite a long time.
Anyone with knowledge to add or correct, please help! Stock ROM is not as bad as i thought, but without Root, Android is not fully usable for me.
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i dont get about your complain. you said already using phone with root for 5 years so i guess you've been here on xda for a while. if you really want a phone which support custom rom go with phone which support unlock bootloader like HTC, Oneplus, or even xiaomy. its not that hard finding them on XDA. 300euro for briked devices? well, if you read v20 section carefully you knew most people here bought this devices for the camera, audio, and other things like removable battery, etc. i never found someone who bricked their devices while rooting here, even if they do we already had flasher tools like LG up which already tested fully working by some members. and whats the problem with second screen? its working for whatever it made for. are you expecting to watch movie on those 2.1 inch display? i had lg v20 h990ds rooted with magisk and had no problem so far. bought some apps like grenify and titanium backup for debloated and my phone rocking solid for abouth 2 month. if you cant wait for LOS just bought lenovo zuk2 or oneplus 3t on the same price range.

No problem doing 1+2+3 with DirtySanta exploit/procedure. It's not as complicated or dangerous as it might seem from the instructions. I thought I had soft-bricked my phone twice after rebooting normally with the old kernel instead of straight to TWRP to update the kernel first, but it was easy to re-flash the 10d factory firmware file I had and start over again without any issues both times.
Basic summary of procedure:
1. Flash factory firmware version earlier than 31 December 2016 (only needed if installed firmware version is after 1 January 2017).
2. Do DirtySanta exploit to unlock bootloader and install TWRP and root.
3. Use kdzwriter to update phone's system/modem/cust partitions to latest firmware version without overwriting unlocked bootloader/TWRP, reinstall root (SuperSU or Magisk) from TWRP.
4. Disable automatic OTA updates so that any future firmwares won't automatically install and overwrite bootloader/recovery and remove root and set ARB 1. If that ever happens then TWRP/root will probably be gone forever.

provided you follow the instructions carefully, it's safe to root with DirtySanta.

xoose said:
No problem doing 1+2+3 with DirtySanta exploit/procedure. It's not as complicated or dangerous as it might seem from the instructions. I thought I had soft-bricked my phone twice after rebooting normally with the old kernel instead of straight to TWRP to update the kernel first, but it was easy to re-flash the 10d factory firmware file I had and start over again without any issues both times.
Basic summary of procedure:
1. Flash factory firmware version earlier than 31 December 2016 (only needed if installed firmware version is after 1 January 2017).
2. Do DirtySanta exploit to unlock bootloader and install TWRP and root.
3. Use kdzwriter to update phone's system/modem/cust partitions to latest firmware version without overwriting unlocked bootloader/TWRP, reinstall root (SuperSU or Magisk) from TWRP.
4. Disable automatic OTA updates so that any future firmwares won't automatically install and overwrite bootloader/recovery and remove root and set ARB 1. If that ever happens then TWRP/root will probably be gone forever.
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Using the steps on #3, would it be safe to say that we can update the device to oreo and still keep root?

nurse_chuck said:
Using the steps on #3, would it be safe to say that we can update the device to oreo and still keep root?
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No, right now if you update you'll lose root as the engineering aboot isn't compatible with Oreo and you have possibly non working data, invalid sim issues etc
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cnjax said:
No, right now if you update you'll lose root as the engineering aboot isn't compatible with Oreo and you have possibly non working data, invalid sim issues etc
Sent from my LG-H910 using XDA Labs
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Too bad. Your earlier post actually got me excited. Hehe. Anyway, hopefully someones starts working on rooting the oreo firmware.

The short answer? @Stele88
Yes. To all of it.
The long answer starts with the Dirty Santa root process. Believe me, I was daunted by it as well, but as long as you follow it (or the noob version of the guide you can find by searching around the same section the original guide is in) and take your time, you'll be okay. It's what I did and I'm now where I am today.
I'll address a couple things since I have the same device as you. If you want to get your device working properly on LineageOS/ResurrectionRemix (LOS with more customisation) then it's a long process.
1. Start by following the bootloader unlock process for Dirty Santa. Depending on what firmware your device gets shipped with, you may need to downgrade to (in the case of the H990DS) the v10c firmware. Once done, then you can Dirty Santa the bootloader and get it unlocked.
2. Once that's done and you're rooted with the initial TWRP from the thread installed, you'll want to look into KDZWriter. It's a program by the same emdroidle who did the Dirty Santa process for us that allows you to update your STOCK system software to newer versions and keep root. You can use it for example with the H990DS firmware KDZ files and go from rooted 10c -> rooted 10f -> rooted 10xx -> etc. until you're on the latest available 7.0 KDZ for the H990DS. This will be the longest part of your process, but it ensures that everything is up to date before going to AOSP/Lineage/Resurrection, specifically the modem partition. I recommend using the TWN region of firmwares if you're just going to convert to a custom ROM anyway, but any region will work fine (the only real difference is that, for example, the Australia region of firmwares comes with more bloat than the TWN region).
2b. You can also use KDZWriter from an updated TWRP you can get in the thread by Phoenix591, his latest TWRP versions have KDZWriter built-in so you don't have to run it off the computer, you can do it all with the kdz files in recovery.
3. Yes, you can root using the Dirty Santa method on v10c kdz firmware. I recommend Magisk for root over SuperSU.
4. There's no official LineageOS that is as up to date as the unofficial ones, and there's no official ones with second screen enabled full stop. That being said, the unoffcial LineageOS 15.1 by x86cpu has been my rock solid daily driver for about 2 months now and I've never had any issues that stop me from using it. The same can be said for ResurrectionRemix 6.2 by Blaises. To use either of these, you will need the updated TWRP from Phoenix591.
4. Second-screen enabled builds of LineageOS and ResurrectionRemix do exist, and in this case ResurrectionRemix is (as of this post) more up-to-date than the LineageOS 15.1 second screen version. If you find yourself needing additional features that aren't in the stock kernels for those ROMs (such as KCAL configuration to help with burn in, among other things), then I maintain the second-screen version of the Gamma Kernel by Omar-Avelar. People are successfully using this with second-screen ROMs and have full functionality. You can purchase the app BoredSigns from the play-store to add additional functions to the second-screen.
As I said at the start, it is a long process, but a very worthwhile one. The jump from stock to custom-ROMs is absolutely incredible. Again, in short, yes. You can get everything you want.
Just do your searching around the forums for the processes I outlined above, ask any questions you have, pre-download your kdz firmwares from HERE and any software you need, and just take your time. It's maybe a couple hours to get setup with a rooted stock system that's up-to-date, and maybe another hour or so to go from stock to Lineage/Resurrection.
P.S: If all goes well with the Dirty Santa process, but you get screen distortion after rebooting when flashing the TWRP from Dirty Santa, just pull the battery instead of rebooting.
Good luck, good searching, and remember to not be afraid to ask questions in the relevant threads.
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nurse_chuck said:
Too bad. Your earlier post actually got me excited. Hehe. Anyway, hopefully someones starts working on rooting the oreo firmware.
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It's highly doubtful this will happen, but one can hope. Right now the best way to get Oreo is through a custom ROM, purely because of how security is implemented by LG in the stock Oreo ROMs.

iDefalt said:
It's highly doubtful this will happen, but one can hope. Right now the best way to get Oreo is through a custom ROM, purely because of how security is implemented by LG in the stock Oreo ROMs.
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Actually it is possible runningnak3d has already said awhile ago he has a process to root stock oreo he's just not releasing it yet so LG can't patch it before the Oreo roll out is complete
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H915 rooted users

Hi I'm looking for h915 users of the Canadian v20 that have successfully rooted their phones. I have many questions and concerns to ask concerning the h915.
I don't know if in 2018, will there still be h915 Users since not much developments for the h915.

Welcome to the small group of Canadian 915 users. Allow me to summarize your information quickly.
If you have received the latest security patch pushed OTA, you're unfortunately out of luck and can not safely root your V20. I unfortunately downloaded the update before I even reached home during the day I purchased mine... Boy, do I regret that terribly. I want root so terribly bad.
Secondly, if you have NOT run the latest security patch, you can flash the US 996 version and successfully achieve root without any problem. The only issues that may arise are baseband incompatibilities, but those are easily corrected by flashing back a 915baseband.zip found here in the forum.
To clarify the aforementioned security patches; In your settings -> software info ... you'll find 'Android Security Patch Level'. If it reads May 1, 2017 then you're out of luck. That bumped your software version from something like H91510d to H91510q. If I'm not mistaken, I believe '10d' was the latest software version released by LG that would allow us to cross flash software versions. Later versions are patched up and locked down.
If you're v10d then hallelujah for you brother!
*If anyone has a correction on this info, please chime in!*

murph187 said:
Welcome to the small group of Canadian 915 users. Allow me to summarize your information quickly.
If you have received the latest security patch pushed OTA, you're unfortunately out of luck and can not safely root your V20. I unfortunately downloaded the update before I even reached home during the day I purchased mine... Boy, do I regret that terribly. I want root so terribly bad.
Secondly, if you have NOT run the latest security patch, you can flash the US 996 version and successfully achieve root without any problem. The only issues that may arise are baseband incompatibilities, but those are easily corrected by flashing back a 915baseband.zip found here in the forum.
To clarify the aforementioned security patches; In your settings -> software info ... you'll find 'Android Security Patch Level'. If it reads May 1, 2017 then you're out of luck. That bumped your software version from something like H91510d to H91510q. If I'm not mistaken, I believe '10d' was the latest software version released by LG that would allow us to cross flash software versions. Later versions are patched up and locked down.
If you're v10d then hallelujah for you brother!
*If anyone has a correction on this info, please chime in!*
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I was told that you can use lgup to downgrade to h91510e or h91510d since h91510q doesn't have anti-rollback features. So if thats the case I still have the option to start ?

darkknight200 said:
I was told that you can use lgup to downgrade to h91510e or h91510d since h91510q doesn't have anti-rollback features. So if thats the case I still have the option to start ?
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It looks like I was misinformed the entire time. Well then! Give it shot buddy, I thought that 10q was ARB enabled. According to a deeper check on my own device, it comes back ARB=0. We're all aware what that means ?.
Now I'm very very curious. I'd love to follow your progress and see how you make out with this my friend. There's just one last thought to keep in mind though; LG consumer relations department for their software updates has officially confirmed the next April security patch will ship Android 8.0.
Wait for a taste of the Oreo? Or root now and make the update a little more difficult in 3-4 weeks. Either way I'm half tempted to take the plunge myself now too!

murph187 said:
It looks like I was misinformed the entire time. Well then! Give it shot buddy, I thought that 10q was ARB enabled. According to a deeper check on my own device, it comes back ARB=0. We're all aware what that means ?.
Now I'm very very curious. I'd love to follow your progress and see how you make out with this my friend. There's just one last thought to keep in mind though; LG consumer relations department for their software updates has officially confirmed the next April security patch will ship Android 8.0.
Wait for a taste of the Oreo? Or root now and make the update a little more difficult in 3-4 weeks. Either way I'm half tempted to take the plunge myself now too!
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I would wait for Oreo to come to v30 and g6 before getting excited. Who knows, their Oreo update suppose to come in March and still hasn't.
As for rooting, im still hesitant to pull the trigger. I still need to find out if my LTE on freedom mobile is going to be affected even after restoring the basebands.

darkknight200 said:
I would wait for Oreo to come to v30 and g6 before getting excited. Who knows, their Oreo update suppose to come in March and still hasn't.
As for rooting, im still hesitant to pull the trigger. I still need to find out if my LTE on freedom mobile is going to be affected even after restoring the basebands.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/h915-guide-fix-lagg-signal-root-lg-v20-t3699540
Freedom/wind functioning just fine according to this thread.
As for the V30; Oreo beta release is already out to the entire country of South Korea for the V30, for a few weeks. A small select few of American users have already received this beta as well.
G6; China has already been testing 8.0.
Seeing as 8.1 is already released, it's highly presumed by a many sources that LG will likely skip 8.0 altogether and push 8.1 to our devices. 8.0 merely serves as a means to identify larger incompatibilitys/bugs.

i just rooted my h915 with this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/guide-root-twrp-lg-v20-using-dirtysanta-t3722278
it is much simpler process compared to the older dirtyelf method. The thread op was very helpful in getting through it.

darkknight200 said:
i just rooted my h915 with this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/guide-root-twrp-lg-v20-using-dirtysanta-t3722278
it is much simpler process compared to the older dirtyelf method. The thread op was very helpful in getting through it.
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Thank you so much for this input brother. I'm strongly considering this now. How is your cell signal/LATE speeds? FM radio functioning correctly as well? Any odd vibrations upon bootup?

murph187 said:
Thank you so much for this input brother. I'm strongly considering this now. How is your cell signal/LATE speeds? FM radio functioning correctly as well? Any odd vibrations upon bootup?
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hmm it turns out i can't connect to freedom mobile. Im working with the op to resolve the issue. I will update when i can get my signal working along with root.
update 1: so I was told to use lgup to install the us99610f kdz and factory reset and now I have signal again. Now I am gonna use the same process of the guide i used again to root the now converted device.
update 2: i have gone thru the guide again and have achieved root + freedom mobile signal on my phone.
update3: I have installed weta rom and it is working all fine with signal.

the op of that thread @dksoni411 will be including a separate guide for h915 users in that thread since it has additional steps to follow. In the meantime, i can help you if you want to get root on the h915.

murph187 said:
It looks like I was misinformed the entire time. Well then! Give it shot buddy, I thought that 10q was ARB enabled. According to a deeper check on my own device, it comes back ARB=0. We're all aware what that means .
Now I'm very very curious. I'd love to follow your progress and see how you make out with this my friend. There's just one last thought to keep in mind though; LG consumer relations department for their software updates has officially confirmed the next April security patch will ship Android 8.0.
Wait for a taste of the Oreo? Or root now and make the update a little more difficult in 3-4 weeks. Either way I'm half tempted to take the plunge myself now too!
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Could you share the link where announcement was made about releasing Android Oreo for LG V20?

dksoni411 said:
Could you share the link where announcement was made about releasing Android Oreo for LG V20?
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i made this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv20/comm..._v20_canadian_update/?st=jeh88vej&sh=d1dca001.
keep in mind i asked for info on the h915 since its been stuck on may security patch.
Lge security product is suppose to be the best accurate info compared to the customer rep of lg social media accounts.

darkknight200 said:
hmm it turns out i can't connect to freedom mobile. Im working with the op to resolve the issue. I will update when i can get my signal working along with root.
update 1: so I was told to use lgup to install the us99610f kdz and factory reset and now I have signal again. Now I am gonna use the same process of the guide i used again to root the now converted device.
update 2: i have gone thru the guide again and have achieved root + freedom mobile signal on my phone.
update3: I have installed weta rom and it is working all fine with signal.
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Did you try installing the 915 baseband.zip from post #6 for your inability to connect to freedom?

murph187 said:
Did you try installing the 915 baseband.zip from post #6 for your inability to connect to freedom?
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no i used patched lgup to flash us99610f kdz to get working signal and then did the whole guide again to get a working signal rooted h915 phone. Afterwards no need to do any baseband installing as the signal is strong as how it was on normal h915.

Wifi calling working on freedom after root?

EnIXmA said:
Wifi calling working on freedom after root?
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No wifi calling.

H910 (ATT V20) oreo update manually, help needed

Can you please guide me how to manually update my AT&T v20 to be stock not rooted oreo, my h910 is stock never touched, not rooted of version h91010m which can't get updates as it is unlocked and am not in US.
All i want is just to update it manually to the stock oreo software.
Thanks a lot

https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/root-h910-v10m-t3664500
Use this to root.
Instead of flashing the 10v att image like the last step suggests, use the 20g Oreo image instead
H910 Oreo 20g: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=1322778262903991071
Thank @clsA for the Oreo link

Thank you
Thanks a lot for the clarification...
i have read more, i believe this rom will let me stock oreo so am worried i can't update the phone again in case of future updates.
is there a way to update in future? Also is there a way to change the software from h910 to h915 so that i can recieve ota updates normally in future?and is it safe as am afraid to loose signal or brick phone etc...
Thanks a lot in advance.

seikobasha said:
Thanks a lot for the clarification...
i have read more, i believe this rom will let me stock oreo so am worried i can't update the phone again in case of future updates.
is there a way to update in future? Also is there a way to change the software from h910 to h915 so that i can recieve ota updates normally in future?and is it safe as am afraid to loose signal or brick phone etc...
Thanks a lot in advance.
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After you flashed the 20g Oreo image, it will be stock as if you took the ota update itself. You'll be able to accept ota updates after words. Follow the root thread, amd you'll be fine

hawkeye29 said:
After you flashed the 20g Oreo image, it will be stock as if you took the ota update itself. You'll be able to accept ota updates after words. Follow the root thread, amd you'll be fine
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The problem is i can't recieve ota updates even i am stock, it is AT&T restriction because my phone is unlocked am using other network (am not in us)
ota updates need to have a working AT&T SIM inserted in phone. It is very stupid policy for AT&T.
So my question now is, is there a way to convert h910 to h915 safely? Because Canadian operators allow ota to unlocked phones...
Or is there a way to manually upgrade in future after i upgrade to stock oreo?

seikobasha said:
The problem is i can't recieve ota updates even i am stock, it is AT&T restriction because my phone is unlocked am using other network (am not in us)
ota updates need to have a working AT&T SIM inserted in phone. It is very stupid policy for AT&T.
So my question now is, is there a way to convert h910 to h915 safely? Because Canadian operators allow ota to unlocked phones...
Or is there a way to manually upgrade in future after i upgrade to stock oreo?
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why are you worried about updates when you can't take them now ?
Yes you can convert your phone to 915 it's the first step in the rooting process
if you want to stay 915 use the H915 Oreo KDZ > https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/h915-oreo-kdz-link-t3826812
If you want a H910 on Oreo use my zip. If another update comes along their will always be another zip (provided we get root and TWRP for Oreo)

In case i will just flash the h915 oreo kdz, should i flash all partitions? Including modem, bootloader, etc...
Is it safe? Because in the guide it say i will loose the signal after flashing h915...
Also Should i still root first or can just flash directly?
Also is it safe to get future ota updates when software is for h915 and treat my phone as if it is h915 from the beginning?
Many thanks in advance.

seikobasha said:
In case i will just flash the h915 oreo kdz, should i flash all partitions? Including modem, bootloader, etc...
Is it safe? Because in the guide it say i will loose the signal after flashing h915...
Also Should i still root first or can just flash directly?
Also is it safe to get future ota updates when software is for h915 and treat my phone as if it is h915 from the beginning?
Many thanks in advance.
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You flash all partitions for non rooted stock which should work like normal with everything working.
My guide is for those trying to keep root intact so to preserve the dirtysanta eng aboot so there are problems with data at the moment.

hawkeye29 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/root-h910-v10m-t3664500
Use this to root.
Instead of flashing the 10v att image like the last step suggests, use the 20g Oreo image instead
H910 Oreo 20g: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=1322778262903991071
Thank @clsA for the Oreo link
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I'm in the same situation as the creator of this thread, I can not update my phone from OTA
Assuming I do this to update. Would Android Oreo be rooted? Could I enter TWRP ?.
Since If I do this procedure and update my phone to Oreo and I don't have root or chance to get into TWRP . I would be stuck until there is some way to root the phone (if it comes into existence)
PS: I bought an AT&T sim card from eBay, but I couldn't activate it. Do you guys have any idea if the sim being activated I could update my phone despite not being in an AT&T network?

alan2323 said:
I'm in the same situation as the creator of this thread, I can not update my phone from OTA
Assuming I do this to update. Would Android Oreo be rooted? Could I enter TWRP ?.
Since If I do this procedure and update my phone to Oreo and I don't have root or chance to get into TWRP . I would be stuck until there is some way to root the phone (if it comes into existence)
PS: I bought an AT&T sim card from eBay, but I couldn't activate it. Do you guys have any idea if the sim being activated I could update my phone despite not being in an AT&T network?
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You will loose root and be back to stock bootloader so no twrp. It's stock oreo with no way of rooting it for now.

CaseyS said:
You will loose root and be back to stock bootloader so no twrp. It's stock oreo with no way of rooting it for now.
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Just to clarify this statement a little. If you want to run Oreo now, you can't have root. However, you CAN downgrade back to Nougat and root when we finally have the Oreo + engineering bootloader issues worked out.
The US996 will be getting Oreo eventually, and that firmware is what is going to allow us to have rooted Oreo on models that use the engineering bootloader.
If the US996 wasn't getting Oreo, then I would waste the time trying to get things sorted out -- but that is just a waste of time.
We have waited for Oreo this long, waiting another couple of weeks isn't going to hurt.
As a final statement, I have had a chance to play with Oreo on my H910, and I am NOT impressed. What a ****poor, crap job that LG has done. It may get better with future updates, but I wouldn't bank on it.
-- Brian

runningnak3d said:
Just to clarify this statement a little. If you want to run Oreo now, you can't have root. However, you CAN downgrade back to Nougat and root when we finally have the Oreo + engineering bootloader issues worked out.
The US996 will be getting Oreo eventually, and that firmware is what is going to allow us to have rooted Oreo on models that use the engineering bootloader.
If the US996 wasn't getting Oreo, then I would waste the time trying to get things sorted out -- but that is just a waste of time.
We have waited for Oreo this long, waiting another couple of weeks isn't going to hurt.
As a final statement, I have had a chance to play with Oreo on my H910, and I am NOT impressed. What a ****poor, crap job that LG has done. It may get better with future updates, but I wouldn't bank on it.
-- Brian
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Just as I suspected, no oreo orgasm lol ?
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runningnak3d said:
Just to clarify this statement a little. If you want to run Oreo now, you can't have root. However, you CAN downgrade back to Nougat and root when we finally have the Oreo + engineering bootloader issues worked out.
The US996 will be getting Oreo eventually, and that firmware is what is going to allow us to have rooted Oreo on models that use the engineering bootloader.
If the US996 wasn't getting Oreo, then I would waste the time trying to get things sorted out -- but that is just a waste of time.
We have waited for Oreo this long, waiting another couple of weeks isn't going to hurt.
As a final statement, I have had a chance to play with Oreo on my H910, and I am NOT impressed. What a ****poor, crap job that LG has done. It may get better with future updates, but I wouldn't bank on it.
-- Brian
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got alot more weeks to wait for us996.
It could come in mid october.
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv20/comments/9b9n6a/us996_oreo_date/?st=jlflkarq&sh=a9643b7f

runningnak3d said:
As a final statement, I have had a chance to play with Oreo on my H910, and I am NOT impressed. What a ****poor, crap job that LG has done. It may get better with future updates, but I wouldn't bank on it.
-- Brian
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I remember reading earlier this year about how LG was going to reform their mobile division, getting better at software updates and halting/slowing down the typical release schedule of phones.
Seems none of that has happened as far as I can tell, especially the software part. What a farce.

finally i updated my H910
i managed to updated my H910 by simply flashing the oreo H915 KDZ file with patched LGUP and it seems very good... signal is ok no errors so far except one after rebooting phone
ARB is still zero.
thanks a lot for all of you

runningnak3d said:
Just to clarify this statement a little. If you want to run Oreo now, you can't have root. However, you CAN downgrade back to Nougat and root when we finally have the Oreo + engineering bootloader issues worked out.
The US996 will be getting Oreo eventually, and that firmware is what is going to allow us to have rooted Oreo on models that use the engineering bootloader.
If the US996 wasn't getting Oreo, then I would waste the time trying to get things sorted out -- but that is just a waste of time.
We have waited for Oreo this long, waiting another couple of weeks isn't going to hurt.
As a final statement, I have had a chance to play with Oreo on my H910, and I am NOT impressed. What a ****poor, crap job that LG has done. It may get better with future updates, but I wouldn't bank on it.
-- Brian
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Why do you think US996 getting Oreo helps? What if the eng aboot can't initialize the oreo modem properly (maybe intentional change)? I have a thought, maybe we can try if the stock nougat aboot, say H910, can boot the Oreo with data? We could flash everything Oreo stock and just leave the aboot nougat. Since signatures are still LG, it should boot up? And if it still can't have data, maybe eng aboot can never initialize properly, I don't know.

Questions about the H910 --> H915 Conversion
I have read several different postings on how to change the H910 to H915
I read the posting by runningnak3d and I am bit confused.
Sorry for the noob questions
1) If I flash H910 to the H915 v10e kdz, do I have to continue the steps to flash to oreo or can the phone be updated from OTA?
I really don't want the AT&T logos on my phone and I don't need my phone to be rooted or need dirtysanta.
2) Would flashing it with LG UP be enough to get Oreo?
3) I'm confused with the steps after downloading terminal emulator? - Do I need to do these steps if I want to keep the H915 Rom?
Sorry if my questions are dumb.
Thank you in advance.
Much appreciated
-Rmc604

rmc604 said:
I have read several different postings on how to change the H910 to H915
I read the posting by runningnak3d and I am bit confused.
Sorry for the noob questions
1) If I flash H910 to the H915 v10e kdz, do I have to continue the steps to flash to oreo or can the phone be updated from OTA?
I really don't want the AT&T logos on my phone and I don't need my phone to be rooted or need dirtysanta.
2) Would flashing it with LG UP be enough to get Oreo?
3) I'm confused with the steps after downloading terminal emulator? - Do I need to do these steps if I want to keep the H915 Rom?
Sorry if my questions are dumb.
Thank you in advance.
Much appreciated
-Rmc604
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you can do as i did, just flash H915 KDZ Oreo file directly using patched LGUP and select to Partition DL all partitions.
you will have stock oreo H915 fully functional phone, there is only 1 error message that will appear every reboot of phone but will not make any harm.
there is no any issues or problems i have noticed so far, also the software seems more stock than AT&T version.

rmc604 said:
I have read several different postings on how to change the H910 to H915
I read the posting by runningnak3d and I am bit confused.
Sorry for the noob questions
1) If I flash H910 to the H915 v10e kdz, do I have to continue the steps to flash to oreo or can the phone be updated from OTA?
I really don't want the AT&T logos on my phone and I don't need my phone to be rooted or need dirtysanta.
2) Would flashing it with LG UP be enough to get Oreo?
3) I'm confused with the steps after downloading terminal emulator? - Do I need to do these steps if I want to keep the H915 Rom?
Sorry if my questions are dumb.
Thank you in advance.
Much appreciated
-Rmc604
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you can simply use lgup to backup your current setup (not userdata)
and use lgup to flash the 915 Oreo kdz
Note: someone said that converting to 915 caused google now to stop working but everything else was ok
if you want to return to 910 stock you'll have to do the root procedure and flash h910 10q or 20g back to stock rom from TWRP

clsA said:
Note: someone said that converting to 915 caused google now to stop working but everything else was ok
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it is working fine with me am H910 converted to H915 by flashing via LGUP.

Korean G4 F500 S/L/K with Stock Nougat 7.0 Help & Tips 2019!

Hello LG fans,
There is an old thread with a similar title, but since it is inactive I started this one. For certain reasons I got this G4 phone only few days ago. The model number on the box and under-battery tag as well as in settings showed F500 (just F500 without any suffix S, L, or K). It came with Android 5.1, and everything was working well. Online search showed that F500X phones can be officially updated to Nougat 7.0, but the phone OTA update said no update was available.
As per LG website, I installed LG Bridge to get the updates. It identified the phone as F500K and found two updates. First it installed 6.0 Marshmallow and then 7.0 Nougat software version F500K30c. Also the model no changed to F500K in settings. I think this probably means it is is a refurbished phone
The Installation was successful, but it installed a Korea Telecom version with some Korean stuff. I uninstalled or disabled all the Korean bloat I could without root, but there are still a few things remaining, and some Korean language here and there.
In general, I’m quite satisfied with the phone. The only thing I wish to get rid of is the KT Wifi manager app which is all in Korean, and I don’t know what it does or which settings to select. It is a system app, and I can’t uninstall or disable it, but my wifi and data networks seem to be working fine, so no complaints. I’ve seen several people here and elsewhere complaining about network issues, boot loops and bricks, but so far I haven’t experienced any. I hope it stays this way :fingers-crossed:
I was wondering about the other variants F500S and F500L, do they also have Korean bloat and is it more or less than F500K? I have read somewhere that these three firmware variants can be interchangeably installed. Is this the case, and if so, is it advisable to install another variant? I have been reading about this phone, but this is my first time to use an LG phones, and I have no experience with their software and tools, so any help, ideas or suggestions will be highly appreciated.
Thanks

Gold Mix said:
Hello LG fans,
There is an old thread with a similar title, but since it is inactive I started this one. For certain reasons I got this G4 phone only few days ago. The model number on the box and under-battery tag as well as in settings showed F500 (just F500 without any suffix S, L, or K). It came with Android 5.1, and everything was working well. Online search showed that F500X phones can be officially updated to Nougat 7.0, but the phone OTA update said no update was available.
As per LG website, I installed LG Bridge to get the updates. It identified the phone as F500K and found two updates. First it installed 6.0 Marshmallow and then 7.0 Nougat software version F500K30c. Also the model no changed to F500K in settings. I think this probably means it is is a refurbished phone
The Installation was successful, but it installed a Korea Telecom version with some Korean stuff. I uninstalled or disabled all the Korean bloat I could without root, but there are still a few things remaining, and some Korean language here and there.
In general, I’m quite satisfied with the phone. The only thing I wish to get rid of is the KT Wifi manager app which is all in Korean, and I don’t know what it does or which settings to select. It is a system app, and I can’t uninstall or disable it, but my wifi and data networks seem to be working fine, so no complaints. I’ve seen several people here and elsewhere complaining about network issues, boot loops and bricks, but so far I haven’t experienced any. I hope it stays this way :fingers-crossed:
I was wondering about the other variants F500S and F500L, do they also have Korean bloat and is it more or less than F500K? I have read somewhere that these three firmware variants can be interchangeably installed. Is this the case, and if so, is it advisable to install another variant? I have been reading about this phone, but this is my first time to use an LG phones, and I have no experience with their software and tools, so any help, ideas or suggestions will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
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You could
downgrade to MM,
backup with SALT (CRUCIAL important),
unlock by UsU ,
extract with SALT: system ,modem and boot partitions from a f500 kdz,
root and debloat or (if you like to) install a custom ROM
Check the UsU and SALT threads (you can find both in my signature)
Sent from my OnePlus 6T using XDA Labs

steadfasterX said:
You could
downgrade to MM,
backup with SALT (CRUCIAL important),
unlock by UsU ,
extract with SALT: system ,modem and boot partitions from a f500 kdz,
root and debloat or (if you like to) install a custom ROM
Check the UsU and SALT threads (you can find both in my signature)
Sent from my OnePlus 6T using XDA Labs
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Thank you @steadfasterX for your reply,
It's quite an honor the Guru himself was the first to reply to my post. I have seen many of your posts and replies in the forum before, and now looked at some of the stuff in your signature. Pretty impressive work. I definitely need to spend some time learning about them particularly SALT and FWUL, as I have also started learning and using Linux lately. How come FWUL is not shown on distrowatch?
For the time being, I was thinking to stick to stock Nougat 7.0 as it's a fairly recent OS, and the phone is fine even with the remaining little Korean stuff. My main dissatisfaction really is with the mysterious kt wifi manager app which is all in Korean and has some settings which I don't know what they are. If just replacing the current Nougat 7.0 with another variant S or L is actually possible, and these variants don't have a similar app, this would be great.
I have been searching for information about these S/L/K firmware variant differences but couldn't find much. I hope other S & L phone owners could tell us about their phones. The only thing I could find so far is that each is for a different carrier in Korea, and that they can be interchangeably installed as per a Reddit post. I don't know how reliable this information is!
From a purely technical perspective for G4 F500 , is it possible to flash another F500 variant using LGUP, or is this something that shouldn't be done? I have seen many people getting in trouble for flashing wrong firmware. If this is safe to do, do I need to do any preparation work like downgrading to MM first, and should this be done as an upgrade or a refurbish? For what it's worth, my ARB value is 0.
Thanks

steadfasterX said:
You could
downgrade to MM,
backup with SALT (CRUCIAL important),
unlock by UsU ,
extract with SALT: system ,modem and boot partitions from a f500 kdz,
root and debloat or (if you like to) install a custom ROM
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Hi Sfx,
1. to downgrade to MM... use uppercut, right? I'm using latest 20u for F500l is OK for UsU?
2. after backing up with SALT, can I revert back anytime after unlock and with new custom ROM?
3. after rooting, do I install twrp and load custom ROM? and can I extract 30b Nougat's modem from KDZ to use with the custom ROM?
thanks so much in advance for answering...:angel:

Gold Mix said:
How come FWUL is not shown on distrowatch?
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Because they are ignorant and/or just arrogant enough to ignore my requests. I even offered to pay advertisements as this should be (according to their website) a way to get listed instant. but nothing. Even not on the waiting list..
Gold Mix said:
From a purely technical perspective for G4 F500 , is it possible to flash another F500 variant using LGUP, or is this something that shouldn't be done?
I have seen many people getting in trouble for flashing wrong firmware. If this is safe to do, do I need to do any preparation work like downgrading to MM first, and should this be done as an upgrade or a refurbish?
For what it's worth, my ARB value is 0.
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ok so one thing first. the most important one: Ensure you keep your ARB at 0. This is crucial important. So never ever flash anything (including QFIL restore files!!!) where you are not 10000% sure it wouldn't increase your ARB.
If you are about to flash a KDZ then check that file with SALT first (simply press extract and it will display the ARB). If you flash anything else.. well ensure that the files offered have that information listed and hope and pray its not wrong (e.g. there are QFIL files around which are labeled for a ARB 0 model but contain ARB2 files..). Never heard about a wrong labeled KDZ file but who knows.
The second important thing is (maybe its even the first): before doing anything, do a full backup with SALT (basic is fine) and (!!) move that to a secure place! (I saw so many ppl who lost their backup through several ways).
So when going on through the UsU process you will have 2 SALT backups: the one before downgrading to MM and another one after you downgraded to MM (tbh the more important one). If you can keep them both.
so about flashing other variants: yes it IS technically possible to even flash e.g. h815 ROMs to a F500 and so converting it that way! but never try that with h811 KDZs or others..
anyways yea you could flash other F500 variants without fear (just carrier bloat is different) as long as you follow the above advises.
cooledi said:
Hi Sfx,
1. to downgrade to MM... use uppercut, right? I'm using latest 20u for F500l is OK for UsU?
2. after backing up with SALT, can I revert back anytime after unlock and with new custom ROM?
3. after rooting, do I install twrp and load custom ROM? and can I extract 30b Nougat's modem from KDZ to use with the custom ROM?
thanks so much in advance for answering...:angel:
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1. I dunno the latest MM F500 version but "20u" sounds good. Can't help in the downgrade process but there are plenty of guides here in the G4 forums.
2. dunno that you mean here.. but if you wanna know if you can stay on STOCK after UsU'ing yea sure. flashing UsU does not require to go for a custom ROM. It just gives you the freedom to do so.
3. if you follow the UsU guide you will have TWRP already and that's the place where you install a custom ROM if you like. Sure extract the 30b modem and flash it in fastboot should work fine (after UsU).
.-

steadfasterX said:
..
1. I dunno the latest MM F500 version but "20u" sounds good. Can't help in the downgrade process but there are plenty of guides here in the G4 forums.
2. dunno that you mean here.. but if you wanna know if you can stay on STOCK after UsU'ing yea sure. flashing UsU does not require to go for a custom ROM. It just gives you the freedom to do so.
3. if you follow the UsU guide you will have TWRP already and that's the place where you install a custom ROM if you like. Sure extract the 30b modem and flash it in fastboot should work fine (after UsU).
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Thanks sfx, I'm now on MM and ready to get SALTed I want to flash AEX v6.7 But there are two offerings H811 and H815, and my F500L in SALT say GPT compatibility is H811 /ARB0, so do I flash H811 version of AEX?? If so, is there a H811_UsU_baseband_flash-in-twrp I need to flash as well? thz

cooledi said:
Thanks sfx, I'm now on MM and ready to get SALTed I want to flash AEX v6.7 But there are two offerings H811 and H815, and my F500L in SALT say GPT compatibility is H811 /ARB0, so do I flash H811 version of AEX?? If so, is there a H811_UsU_baseband_flash-in-twrp I need to flash as well? thz
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if you would flash h811 on yours you will increase your ARB so do NOT flash that.
Use a h815 based ROM even when SALT compat shows different. your partition layout is somehow weird..
for non-UsU ROMs flash the f500(!!) baseband package once
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steadfasterX said:
You could
downgrade to MM,
backup with SALT (CRUCIAL important),
unlock by UsU ,
->> extract with SALT: system ,modem and " boot partitions from a f500 kdz, "
root and debloat or (if you like to) install a custom ROM
Sent from my OnePlus 6T using XDA Labs
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If I wanna go back to stock, what boot partitions should I extract from the f500 kdz image?
so namely I need to flash;
system.img
modem.img
do I need modemst1 & modemst2.img? what else do I need to flash?
thx!

cooledi said:
If I wanna go back to stock, what boot partitions should I extract from the f500 kdz image?
so namely I need to flash;
system.img
modem.img
do I need modemst1 & modemst2.img? what else do I need to flash?
thx!
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system, boot, modem
nothing else

Pls i had f500s please can someone help withbsome detail process of rooting this phone.i am currently on stock rom android 5.1.its my first time usong lg g4 .i used sumsang and i had no problems around sumsung but lg g4 is a whole new level. I dont understand the UsU terms and SALT.pls help i need root pls.

please i need you help.
Pls i had f500s .i am currently on stock rom android 5.1.its my first time using lg g4 .i used sumsang and i had no problems around sumsung but lg g4 is a whole new level. I dont understand the UsU terms and SALT.pls help i need root pls

[Q] VS995 Bootloader Unlock Question

Hello, I apologize for the noobish question in advance.
I don't have an LG V20 myself, my friend has one and wants to unlock the bootloader. Normally Verizon devices are NOT bootloader unlockable but when I looked on this site (could be fake but who knows till they ask) it appears the Verizon variant of the LG V20 is in fact unlockable. As someone who is unfortunately very familiar with Verizon variants of phones, this is unusual news to me. Usually Verizon locks their stuff down with no hope of unlocking.
Anyway, just wanted to ask if that site's guide was correct for how to unlock the bootloader on the LG VS995 variant from Verizon. His Android version is 8.0.0, build number OPR1.170623.032. Software version VS99520c. Security patch October 1st, 2018. Security software version MDF v2.0 Release 4. Do I need to downgrade the firmware at all or can I just do it?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. He wants LineageOS on that thing (to get the latest security patches) and I don't blame him.

It's not that easy unfortunately.
The first thing that would need to be done is to revert the phone back to Nougat 12a or 13a. I have not done this part (both my VS995 were on some version of Nogat, I reverted the version to 12a by flashing the kdz), but guides are available to revert to Nogat from Oreo on XDA in the
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/
Section.
Then what is on that site would most likely work. I would suggest using this guide instead as I have rooted two VS995 with it. It is less confusing that the Dirty Santa or Dirty Elf guides IMHO, but it is later and builds on those guides.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/guide-root-twrp-lg-v20-using-dirtysanta-t3722278.
Good luck, although if you plan to use the phone on Verizon, it's only a matter of time before a stock ROM with VoLTE is a requirement for using the phone. I guess he can switch back at that point (or go to one of the GSM providers).

Dread1111 said:
The first thing that would need to be done is to revert the phone back to Nougat 12a or 13a. I have not done this part (both my VS995 were on some version of Nogat, I reverted the version to 12a by flashing the kdz), but guides are available to revert to Nogat from Oreo on XDA in the
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/
Section.
Then what is on that site would most likely work. I would suggest using this guide instead as I have rooted two VS995 with it. It is less confusing that the Dirty Santa or Dirty Elf guides IMHO, but it is later and builds on those guides.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/guide-root-twrp-lg-v20-using-dirtysanta-t3722278.
Good luck, although if you plan to use the phone on Verizon, it's only a matter of time before a stock ROM with VoLTE is a requirement for using the phone. I guess he can switch back at that point (or go to one of the GSM providers).
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Just to clarify this isn't just a root this is a full on bootloader unlock right? I assume it is because TWRP gets flashed, but then again there were custom recoveries in the past that were just Safestrap and weren't full on recoveries (still locked BLs). Because the end goal here is to install Lineage or something like that to the phone. I'm not interested in just rooting stock.
Also, wasn't aware about the stock ROM requirement thing for Verizon, I thought it was only VoLTE they were implementing. That's a bummer. Thanks for the heads up