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newbie question about versions and security updates

so I am all new with this LG updating their devices thing as this is my first LG smartphone, so this may probably sound silly
I read autoprimes thread about 10f stock (thanks for that btw, great starting point for newbies like me!) and had a look at his twitter account where I saw he linked an official LG site about security updates . Going over there and reading up it seems pretty obvious to me that getting all these google patches seemed a very good way to go, yet my H870 refuses to give me any new updates saying it is uptodate with the april version (the 10f autoprime has in his thread it seems). Yet there is this newer thread from westwood24 talking about a 10I version for the H870, yet even LG Bridge installed tells me that my 10f is the most current thing.
So is westwoods version either not really a stock thing because its made by himself into a 10I (from f) or is both my OTA update service and LG bridge blatently lieing to me about a new version?
Or is there a third "truth" I simply dont get because I am a relative android newbie?

Vaxxus said:
so I am all new with this LG updating their devices thing as this is my first LG smartphone, so this may probably sound silly
I read autoprimes thread about 10f stock (thanks for that btw, great starting point for newbies like me!) and had a look at his twitter account where I saw he linked an official LG site about security updates . Going over there and reading up it seems pretty obvious to me that getting all these google patches seemed a very good way to go, yet my H870 refuses to give me any new updates saying it is uptodate with the april version (the 10f autoprime has in his thread it seems). Yet there is this newer thread from westwood24 talking about a 10I version for the H870, yet even LG Bridge installed tells me that my 10f is the most current thing.
So is westwoods version either not really a stock thing because its made by himself into a 10I (from f) or is both my OTA update service and LG bridge blatently lieing to me about a new version?
Or is there a third "truth" I simply dont get because I am a relative android newbie?
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Updates are not only related to the model, but also to region and brand. The 10L update with June patch was available for Vodafone branded phone in Europe and few others.
This lead to the question: where is your H870 from?
In any case you can use lgup+uppercut and flash the 10L kdz if you really have a H870 (without any letters at the end)

my current "Software Version" string says V10f-EUR-XX and I bought it from a local retail store, so (to my knowledge) no provider attached.
the model number under hardware info says LG-H870.

Vaxxus said:
my current "Software Version" string says V10f-EUR-XX and I bought it from a local retail store, so (to my knowledge) no provider attached.
the model number under hardware info says LG-H870.
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And you are from? As i stated before also the region/nation is important when we speak about updates, anyway you can manually update with lgup as i said before =)

Killua96 said:
And you are from? As i stated before also the region/nation is important when we speak about updates, anyway you can manually update with lgup as i said before =)
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sorry missed that, I am from germany.

Vaxxus said:
sorry missed that, I am from germany.
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Seems like is no yet avalable for your specific model, other users confirmed it Here and Here
You can track daily lg updates looking Here every 6 hours, wait for a H870 Europe Germany or something like that.

I had the same thing like you... but I am rooted do I dirty flashed westwoods version because official updates won't work anyway. No problems found so far. If you have root too, fash it
PS: swiss version heer

odysseus84 said:
I had the same thing like you... but I am rooted do I dirty flashed westwoods version because official updates won't work anyway. No problems found so far. If you have root too, fash it
PS: swiss version heer
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mine isnt rooted yet, I stopped after I ordered the unlock bootcode from lg and read about that it stops OTA in generell. But seeing that they are none coming, or coming in a unbelievable slow pace I might as well just get it over with, head home and start flashing

Moto G5 Plus Software Update

My Moto G5 Plus is telling me that my software is up to date, yet it's still running Android 7.0, but more importantly the security patch level is 1/1/17. I don't know about major OS updates, but there MUST be at least some updates out there that I'm not getting. Can someone link me to somewhere where I can find a .zip files for all OTA updates, so I can just flash the update and then flash Magisk again to retain root? Thanks!

You are probably not receiving OTA updates since you've rooted your phone, right? There was no major updates but there was few security patches this year. Which model exactly you have? That's gonna help in providing you correct links...

I too feel like I am not on the latest version. I have two XT1687 units. I got two updates minutes after power on but I only at the March 1st update. Build NPN 25.137-43-5. Are there newer builds for the US version phone?

nlinecomputers said:
I too feel like I am not on the latest version. I have two XT1687 units. I got two updates minutes after power on but I only at the March 1st update. Build NPN 25.137-43-5. Are there newer builds for the US version phone?
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NPN25.137-83 with an August 1 security patch is the latest in the US... unless you are on Verizon, I think they are still on an older build due to voice quality issues.

acejavelin said:
NPN25.137-83 with an August 1 security patch is the latest in the US... unless you are on Verizon, I think they are still on an older build due to voice quality issues.
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I am on Verizon so that must be it. One more reason to move on to another carrier. Which is partly why I got the phones to begin with.

nlinecomputers said:
I am on Verizon so that must be it. One more reason to move on to another carrier. Which is partly why I got the phones to begin with.
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Problem is your stuck regardless of carrier now until they release an update FROM NPN25.137-43-5 to whatever... an OTA update is a differential update, meaning you have to have X to move to Y, so the update you just have to wait anyway.

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Problem is your stuck regardless of carrier now until they release an update FROM NPN25.137-43-5 to whatever... an OTA update is a differential update, meaning you have to have X to move to Y, so the update you just have to wait anyway.
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I don't quite follow. Are you saying the build I am running is for Verizon only? If I put in T-Moblie sim cards in I would STILL not get the update?
Is there a way to flash the latest build in whole, not a delta upgrade?

I am using a rooted Moto G5 Plus that I bought from Amazon (no ads, 64 GB ROM & 4 GB RAM) with the stock software it was shipped with. As far as I understand, with a rooted phone, to update your software you just need to flash (1) the latest OTA update .zip file, and then (2) flash the root package .zip file again to retain root. However, unlike other phones, I can't find these OTA software update .zip files ANYWHERE. Can someone please help?

nlinecomputers said:
I don't quite follow. Are you saying the build I am running is for Verizon only? If I put in T-Moblie sim cards in I would STILL not get the update?
Is there a way to flash the latest build in whole, not a delta upgrade?
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Yes, that is what I am saying... Verizon had some real issues with voice quality initially, and several Verizon "specific" software updates went out to address that issue, and only to Verizon users, the rest of us (such as myself on AT&T) never got those updates.
You have to wait until Moto makes an update to the latest version from your version -AND- Verizon accepts it and allows it to be pushed out. Switching SIMs now won't matter since there is no update from your version to the latest out there, in fact, it could actually delay you getting the update because you are not on Verizon so Moto's update server may not offer it to your IMEI until it is available for pull (rather than push, which is all we have seen so far)
We do not have the full image of the ROM either, so flashing it is not possible.
The kicker is that the latest version supposedly fixes all the Verizon specific issues too. :/
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FamilyGuy0395 said:
I am using a rooted Moto G5 Plus that I bought from Amazon (no ads, 64 GB ROM & 4 GB RAM) with the stock software it was shipped with. As far as I understand, with a rooted phone, to update your software you just need to flash (1) the latest OTA update .zip file, and then (2) flash the root package .zip file again to retain root. However, unlike other phones, I can't find these OTA software update .zip files ANYWHERE. Can someone please help?
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Sort of... OTA files can only be flashed on a pure stock system, no root, no TWRP, no Xposed, nothing changed in system, no removed packages, etc. If the OTA script even detects that /system was ever mounted R/W it can fail (I don't know if Moto goes that far).
To flash an OTA you must restore your stock ROM completely (/system, /boot, and any other system level partitions), and restore stock recovery, and all versions must match or the OTA script will crap out with an error.
The OTA files are out there, on this forum in various threads... you can find them along with instructions on how to apply them to rooted and stock systems.

acejavelin said:
Yes, that is what I am saying... Verizon had some real issues with voice quality initially, and several Verizon "specific" software updates went out to address that issue, and only to Verizon users, the rest of us (such as myself on AT&T) never got those updates.
You have to wait until Moto makes an update to the latest version from your version -AND- Verizon accepts it and allows it to be pushed out. Switching SIMs now won't matter since there is no update from your version to the latest out there, in fact, it could actually delay you getting the update because you are not on Verizon so Moto's update server may not offer it to your IMEI until it is available for pull (rather than push, which is all we have seen so far)
We do not have the full image of the ROM either, so flashing it is not possible.
The kicker is that the latest version supposedly fixes all the Verizon specific issues too. :/
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Well ****. I screwed up then. I got these phones to leave Verizon and all that controlled rollout BS.(Had Droid Turbo before this) Didn't know that even on unbranded phones they would still interfere So can you rollback to the shipping rom?

nlinecomputers said:
Well ****. I screwed up then. I got these phones to leave Verizon and all that controlled rollout BS.(Had Droid Turbo before this) Didn't know that even on unbranded phones they would still interfere So can you rollback to the shipping rom?
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Oh yeah... Moto's level of doing what the carriers "recommend" or whatever you want to call it, is ridiculous lately.
Good example is Nougat for the Moto X Pure Edition, if you are on Sprint or US Cellular you got it 2 months ago, but Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile users still haven't seen it. Except many users have figured it out, pop in a Boost Mobile SIM (not even activated) and it will grab the update almost immediately, let it apply, then swap your original SIM back in and enjoy some Nougat goodness. However that device never had a specific version for a certain carrier. Still today probably 80% of users of that FLAGSHIP device still haven't gotten an update that we know was completed in June/July, due to "partner approvals" or some such BS.
All these updates still come directly from Moto and their servers, but they are doing what the carriers tell them and only allowing it to certain devices... This has vaguely been admitted to by the mods on the official Lenovo support forums.
Honestly, many smaller brands with a history of poor update frequency get better update support than Moto's these days... My son's Axon 7 Mini already has 7.1.1 with the September update for BlueBourne, he got it the third week of September, and gets on every 3 months like clockwork. My faith in Moto is diminishing quickly, I gave them the benefit of the doubt on my last two (Moto X Pure Edition and Moto G 2015) because they were kind of transitional device during the Google-Lenovo switch over, and although my Moto G5 Plus is supported a little better I believe it is just because it is newer and not because Moto got better.
Chances this will be last Moto device? Let's just say this could be my last Moto device, and I have been a big Motorola fan for many years.

@acejavelin That can't be true for every phone. On the OnePlus 5, I am able to flash an OTA update through TWRP and then flash the root package and everything works fine.

Can anyone link me where to find OTA updates for Moto G5 Plus and, if necessary, instructions? I don't see why the instructions would be any different from the OnePlus 5, other than Motorola making it harder on purpose.

FamilyGuy0395 said:
@acejavelin That can't be true for every phone. On the OnePlus 5, I am able to flash an OTA update through TWRP and then flash the root package and everything works fine.
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Never said it was true for every phone or manufacturer, but that is the way it is with Moto devices... You cannot flash an OTA with TWRP, the script checks (among other things) the recovery and will fail if it doesn't have the correct signature, same with the modems, bootloader, partition table, and things in /system. Moto OTA updates are VERY picky and will fail at the drop of a hat on a device that is not purely stock.
The only work around, that works in SOME cases with Moto devices, is using FlashFire by Chainfire, but that is hit and miss, depends on what is updated.

There is a thread here that has TWRP flashable OTA updates. I flashed myself to the latest USA version just this week using them...

Karlinski said:
There is a thread here that has TWRP flashable OTA updates. I flashed myself to the latest USA version just this week using them...
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Do you have a link to this thread? I am curious how the modems, partition table, and bootloader updates are handled since TWRP doesn't have the correct signature to write to these partitions. I can see where it could maybe update the boot and system partitions if they were extracted from the ROM, even if they are differential deltas, but my guess is that a "TWRP flashable" OTA is mearly an extract of a blank device's boot and system partition or just he changes, and packed into an OpenRecovery script, and not the "real" OTA file.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616

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https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
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Ahh... OK... Read through those, can see they are ROM's that someone created from the OTA's and factory images, not the actual OTA's and cannot be used with a locked bootloader, . And if you read through it, they don't upgrade some partitions, like modems, and they have modified boot images that disable DM-Verity and force disable encryption...
They even clearly say:
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Do NOT attempt to apply standard OTAs over these builds; they will fail.
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Don't get me wrong, I appreciate any developers work, but these are ROMs, just not very custom as they are essentially stock with near no modifications.

acejavelin said:
Ahh... OK... Read through those, can see they are ROM's that someone created from the OTA's and factory images, not the actual OTA's and cannot be used with a locked bootloader, . And if you read through it, they don't upgrade some partitions, like modems, and they have modified boot images that disable DM-Verity and force disable encryption...
They even clearly say:
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate any developers work, but these are ROMs, just not very custom as they are essentially stock with near no modifications.
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The TWRP flashable stock builds DO upgrade the modem.
As stated in the OP, the only partitions NOT upgraded are gpt and bootloader.
I didn't omit these partitions because they can't be written; I omitted them to prevent potential issues for people who really don't know what they're doing.
Disabling dm-verity is required due to some partitions unavoidably losing their oem signatures during the conversion process.
Disabling force encryption is practically required, as TWRP seems buggy with it enabled.
The intended purpose of these builds is to provide a dead simple (and safe) way for users to return to stock.
I have linked useful tools at the bottom of the OP for those interested in making their own modifications to these stock builds.
Hope this helps :good:

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Hope this helps :good:
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It does actually, thank you... Obviously I have a lot to learn about the differences between current devices and older Moto devices I am used to working.

Oreo Root?

Hey there devs and V20 users alike.
As if there wasn't already hesitation enough to root this headache of a phone, and just when I was about ready to take the dive, I received the Oreo OTA update about three weeks ago.
Since updating, I've been enjoying the phone thoroughly.
If I'm going to be honest, this is the first phone I've owned (out of MANY since the Galaxy Captivate S days) that I have been satisfied using without root. It's an absolute multimedia powerhouse. However, little things like the inability to utilize ad blockers, tweak kernels, access root storage, etc. Does bother me now and then, although infrequently.
I'm looking through the forum here, and I'm beginning to think that due to LG's unbelievably long release of oereo, and the difficulty of root, devs have long left this device in the dust.
Unless I'm missing something, is there any rooted Oreo ROM available ATM? I absolutely will not revert to 7.1 again.
Thanks in advance!
Murph.

murph187 said:
Hey there devs and V20 users alike.
As if there wasn't already hesitation enough to root this headache of a phone, and just when I was about ready to take the dive, I received the Oreo OTA update about three weeks ago.
Since updating, I've been enjoying the phone thoroughly. If I'm going to be honest, this is the first phone I've owned (out of MANY since the Galaxy Captivate S days, that I have been satisfied using without root. It's an absolute multimedia powerhouse. However, little things like the inability to utilize ad blockers, tweak kernels, access root storage, etc. Does bother me now and then, although infrequently.
I'm looking through the forum here, and I'm beginning to think that due to LG's unbelievably long release of oereo, and the difficulty of root, devs have long left this device in the dust.
Unless I'm missing something, is there any rooted Oreo ROM available ATM? I absolutely will not revert to 7.1 again.
Thanks in advance!
Murph.
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No root yet. we still have a handful of devs around although it is slowly becoming more of a ghost town as far as Dev work.

Oreo hasn't even been released for most variants yet. Just chill out and wait.

Phoenix591 said:
Oreo hasn't even been released for most variants yet. Just chill out and wait.
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Relax slim, it's just a question.

Phoenix591 said:
Oreo hasn't even been released for most variants yet. Just chill out and wait.
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^^^
I can confirm the ls997 has oreo. and i've seen a few other people talking about their oreo updates here on XDA on different models.. Idk how many models there are of the v20 though..... Still waiting for ls997 root I'd love to OC this phone for even better performance Or at least manage its cpu to avoid overheating 24/7

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I can confirm the ls997 has oreo. and i've seen a few other people talking about their oreo updates here on XDA on different models.. Idk how many models there are of the v20 though..... Still waiting for ls997 root I'd love to OC this phone for even better performance Or at least manage its cpu to avoid overheating 24/7
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Have Oreo: F800 LS997 H915 H910
Not yet: H910PR H918 H990{N,DS several regions getting otas at different times within those variants} US996(BPT USC USA) VS995

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Have Oreo: F800 LS997 H915 H910
Not yet: H910PR H918 H990{N,DS several regions getting otas at different times within those variants} US996(BPT USC USA) VS995
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VS995 already got the update 1 or 2 days ago, still it is too late already

root please
please dev, find a way to root my LG V20 F800S Korean version, Oreo. :crying:

In order to get root with Oreo on any model besides the H918, a custom kernel will be needed -- and I don't mean just compiling up the sources from LG.
I am going to try and migrate from my H910 over to one of my H918s .. but that is going to take a bit. Then I will have a phone that can use the eng. bootloader, and can actually start to work on it.
-- Brian

runningnak3d said:
In order to get root with Oreo on any model besides the H918, a custom kernel will be needed -- and I don't mean just compiling up the sources from LG.
I am going to try and migrate from my H910 over to one of my H918s .. but that is going to take a bit. Then I will have a phone that can use the eng. bootloader, and can actually start to work on it.
-- Brian
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Hey Brian, glad to see you still around these parts lol
Edit
I thought the key to root on oreo with eng bootloader was the 996 oreo release or has that changed?
Sent from my LG-H910 using XDA Labs

Yea, I am definitely still around -- just nothing I can do right now.
I am pretty sure I can get it working with a modified kernel, but I need to be able to see logs -- so that means I need my H910
-- Brian

runningnak3d said:
Yea, I am definitely still around -- just nothing I can do right now.
I am pretty sure I can get it working with a modified kernel, but I need to be able to see logs -- so that means I need my H910
-- Brian
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hi brian,
if there's something i can help you or if you need something to do with rooting lg v20 oreo, just let me know. i really want to root my F800S

Dirtysanta eng aboot works on oreo now
runningnak3d said:
In order to get root with Oreo on any model besides the H918, a custom kernel will be needed -- and I don't mean just compiling up the sources from LG.
I am going to try and migrate from my H910 over to one of my H918s .. but that is going to take a bit. Then I will have a phone that can use the eng. bootloader, and can actually start to work on it.
-- Brian
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/vs995-verizon-lg-v20-stock-oreo-rooted-t3845669
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h910-att-lg-v20-stock-oreo-rooted-t3846384
Recently they have found out that to get eng aboot to work with oreo firmware, it was just a simple zip making modifying 2 files.
1. stock aboot changed to common dirtysanta eng aboot
2. stock v20 variant oreo boot changed to magisk patched stock oreo v20 variant boot
We have to keep the recovery as stock recovery so letting the previous twrp get flashed over.
The key is letting the oreo firmware boot up first time with stock recovery and then data will work like normal
Then we boot it up first time and it will get to system and then do quick setup and then go into fastboot (thanks to the eng aboot intact) to push the twrp recovery back to working order again.
So it was just simply doing that instead of using patchd lg up to partition dl to ignore the 3 things : aboot, boot, recovery.
That means eng aboot is still good to be able to use on oreo for all dirtysanta v20s .
I am personally running h910 oreo root with very early build of mk2000 beta 2 oreo kernel. My phone gets full lte data like normal. The battery drain is much improved from nougat while still having the same kind of performance I was used to on rooted nougat.

Asked this on other threads but no answers yet, let me see if I get my answers here
I have a f800l lg v20 not Rooted
Android 7.0
Updated security patch 1st september 2016
Kernel 3.18.31
Build no Nrd90m
Software version F800L 10g
My question is that can I update my Android to Oreo 8.0 which is available via Software update and then gain root access? If no, what is the last update limit for me to not lose rooting possibility. Or is it possible to downgrade to a previous update state after updating it to either Oreo 8.0 or other updated security patch levels? What would you suggest? I've heard Oreo is good with little battery drainage percentage as compared to Nougat which is my primary interest. I don't want to make a move to lose my rooting ability. Are there any other means available to upgrade to oreo without using lg software update in order to achieve both Oreo and root? And if it is not possible to achieve both Oreo and root are there any custom roms or kernels available with good battery drainage percentage? What would suit me the best. Sorry in advance for asking so many questions and not knowing if these questions have already been discussed and answered.
Thank you

Your phone is still ARB 0, so you can do whatever you want.
As for rooting Oreo, now that I know that it expects stock recovery on first boot, I will be posting zips for every model that has a KDZ.
You will need to root your phone first. Since you are on September 2016 patch, use DirtySanta.
-- Brian

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Your phone is still ARB 0, so you can do whatever you want.
As for rooting Oreo, now that I know that it expects stock recovery on first boot, I will be posting zips for every model that has a KDZ.
You will need to root your phone first. Since you are on September 2016 patch, use DirtySanta.
-- Brian
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by the way, no point in making the zip for h915 oreo.
I have tried with the same new method zip that was made with the 2 modified files + stock recovery.
The h915 modem just doesn't want to work with eng aboot whatsoever just like how it was on h915 nougat rooted.

please post oreo zip file for F800L, i can't wait to have oreo rooted on my F800L

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by the way, no point in making the zip for h915 oreo.
I have tried with the same new method zip that was made with the 2 modified files + stock recovery.
The h915 modem just doesn't want to work with eng aboot whatsoever just like how it was on h915 nougat rooted.
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Perhaps this is something that can be circumvented in the kernel, like runningnak3d was talking about earlier, and like emdroidle did for H990.
I don't know how it works, but I could try enabling the same fix that's used for h990, for h915 oreo.

thank you runningnak3d
Ok I'll llet you know once I root my F800 L
Update: I managed to flash twrp via DirtySanta method. I can get into recovery twrp and use it but i haven't flashed SuperSu yet. I can't get comfort view working and the battery is draining relatively fast, So by flashing super su will I get Comfort view and old battery drainage rate back or do I have to do something else? Shall I flash supersu? I get a red triangle mark every time I restart my phone which takes longer than it used to in order to boot, which means I have Bootloader unlocked, can unlocking bootloader ignite problems like long booting duration, inability to use comfort view and fast battery drainage? What do you suggest I do? flash supersu? or relock the boot loader without getting Supersu? Will doing so even fix these problems becasue I planned on rooting to get better battery drainage percentage, instead I get more battery drainage, please help @[runningnak3d]

Hello!
I have a rooted LG V20 H990DS running nougat. Can I upgrade to Oreo without loosing root?
If yes, could you please tell me what is the best way to do so?
Phone: LG V20 H990DS
kernel: 3.18.90-DOTS_H990_kernel-leicxan_jahlex-v1.4
ROM: stock
Build Number: NRD90M
OS Version: Nougat (7.0)

Rooted H990DS. Can it be upgraded to oreo? Development is still going on?

I've been looking out in the forums for info about H990DS development. But I find much less info than other models that got their updates earlier.
Last year I rooted with DirtySanta and updated to the lastest kdz available for my region (twn) with help of KDZ Writer by @emdroidle. Who seems unactive since april.
There was also this H990DS info bank thread that has a bunch of information about H990DS development. Like kdz merging for updates & much more stuff.
But the OP got mad because someone implied that was other developer's work and not his. He made a tantrum and deleted all the information to never be seen again.
I know how to follow instructions, but sadly, I am not a developer myself. Also I don't own many smartphones so I could just change devices if I screw this one up.
But I want to know if there is someone still working on this or if it can be done already. Maybe set a bounty or donations if needed?
Is there a way to upgrade rooted stock rom devices to Oreo without making the device unusable in process?
Would it be possible to keep root when upgrading to Oreo? Maybe flashing certain partitions or files?
Or does it has to be a modified stock rom that is root enabled?
I hope at least get a clear answer about if it can or can't be done. Thanks.

Still on Build number: NPN25.137-33 (Brand New Handset) XT1687 - Need Advice

Greetings devs and members:
I have recently begun using a Moto G5 Plus (XT1687 - N. American SKU) that was never updated (due to being in a drawer someplace).
I know that many things have been unlocked and improved by the devs for this particular handset. My question is simply this:
How should I update it? Should I update it?
Should I go OTA (retus) (currently blocking), or should I bypass everything and go directly to Oreo (using the update file, after a factory reset and such)?
Or, hell should I stick with Nougat right now? It seems that lots of folks are having issues, and I just wanted a more informed opinion.
Thank you.

sinister008 said:
Greetings devs and members:
I have recently begun using a Moto G5 Plus (XT1687) that was never updated (due to being in a drawer someplace).
I know that many things have been unlocked and improved by the devs for this particular handset. My question is simply this:
How should I update it? Should I update it?
Should I go OTA (retus) (currently blocking), or should I bypass everything and go directly to Oreo (using the update file, after a factory reset and such)?
Or, hell should I stick with Nougat right now? It seems that lots of folks are having issues, and I just wanted a more informed opinion.
Thank you.
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To stay with Nougat is not a bad choice, it's a well working system.
If you want to get to Oreo just apply all the OTA updates until you're there. No need to do anything else if your device isn't rooted or the system has been tampered in any other way.
Both firmwares seem to work well.

If the phone is not rooted, then OTA updates are the easiest. Make sure the phone is fully charged or plug it in first. Go to about phone, go to check system updates, accept OTAs until it says up to date, which is likely be Oreo. If it stops at -18 the it may take a few days before the phone alters you to Oreo update.