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While I was on CM7 I kept asking myself whether the time was right to switch to "stock" gingerbread in order to get rid of the few CM7 nasties (such as battery life, FM radio, lack of BLN support,...) without giving up too many of the goodies (performance, performance, performance). I hoped there was some insight into objective comparisons, i.e. people who had tested both and could give some "neutral" feedback. Well, I couldn't find it.
So I now find myself on samsung's gingerbread for the first time and these are my findings*:
Performance**:
CM7
The best I've tried so far. No doubt.
Number of installed apps does not affect performance.
JVR
Acceptable, but after getting used to CM7 there is noticeable lag (lapse between gesture and screen reaction) and hiccups when scrolling down menus. Tested with rfs and ext4 ("lagfix"). All in all, performance is noticeably worse than CM7.
Battery***:
CM7
Improves greatly with GB bootloaders [BL] (custom kernel has to support it) but it only affects standby drain (lowers to about 1~3 %/hr).
Usage drain is ridiculous (20~50 %/hr depending on type of use and connectivity).
Typical average battery life has been about 10~24hrs.
JVR
Standby drain is about the same as with CM7 & GB BL (about 1~3 %/hr).
Usage drain is about 10~30% (general feeling about half as draining).
Typical average battery life is being about 15~36hrs.
Android system process shoots CPU usage up to 99.9% while charging (reboot fixes this). Not sure if this is actually a bug.
Miscellaneous:
CM7
No BLN support (as of custom kernels on Aug 15th). No blinking led notification support.
No FM radio (as of #80)
Voodoo sound/color support is kernel dependent
Minor BT car system (A2DP) bugs. Not reproducible with BT dongle.
Horrible Wifi reception and timeouts with WPA2 + hidden SSID (might be custom kernels).
No TV-out support.
No 720p recording (?)
JVR
BLN support is kernel dependent
Voodoo sound/color support is kernel dependent
I might have overseen a bug or been inaccurate at some point. Please feel free to fill the voids or correct any imprecisions.
*I was on CM7 #80 with Zach's Neo kernel v16 r2 (GB BL!). Have also tried Glitch's.
I am now on JVR Simplicity v0.31 (Semaphore kernel 1.5).
**No OC/UV for the sake of fairness of this test (improves performance about 30~50%).
***Battery findings are merely subjective appreciations I have made on a daily usage basis. No scientific mA/h tests or benchmarks have been made. I apologize for that...
This thread should serve for everyone who has tried both ROMs to give their feedback and for those weighing to make the switch to ask questions and have more info.
Cheers!
Nice job on writing this up.
For me CM7 on the SGS is out of the question, because battery and BLN are two of my most importing things that I need daily.
I even went as far as getting the Samsung Armani Battery 1650Mah battery (same physical size as the stock battery) to give me the extra battery life I need.
As for CM7, I may throw that on my Atrix down the road. Some people that have used the beta of it say they think battery life is better than stock. Time will tell, but battery life is an absolute must on my phones which sadly rules CM7 out for me at least on the SGS...
Problems I have with CM7:
* Battery drain (obviously), but since #86 I usually get through the day without recharging.
* Random reboots
* sometimes suddenly loses reception (comes back after some time)
* broken 2g/3g-toggle (don't know if it's fixed yet, didn't dare to try)
Problems I have with stock-ROMs:
* often Launcher-redraws
* no USB-tethering on Linux
Problems I have with all GB ROMs:
* GPS-performance is bad. It's usable after applying hardware fix, but when comparing with Froyo ROMs (e.g. Darky 9.5), they always win.
You can get led notifications with Neo's kernel, v17r5 currently. No need for BLN app. :]
Otherwise, CM7 is just smoking the stock ROM, specially if many apps are installed. I can compare the phone to AOSP Desire experience, before I exchanged it for SGS a month ago.
Btw, Green battery saver app helps alot, it turns off wifi/mobile for specified intervals, so less drain when idle and you don't need to manually toggle it. Same **** as iPhone does.
I have messed both with CM7 #80 and JVR. Now I am back to stock JVR because CM7:
- does not support 720p recording
- I had a lot of issues with calling, the other person couldn't hear me. This seems to happen randomly to many users and makes it for me unusable.
There's HD recording @ 30fps on 2 recent nightlies I tried.
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I was wondering, in CM7 does flash performance is still as low as in stock roms ? Most of the video websites I visit work awfull on JVR.
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I was wondering, in CM7 does flash performance is still as low as in stock roms ? Most of the video websites I visit work awfull on JVR.
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In my experience there is a great improvement in flash performance in cm7 (and decline in samsung's gb). Especially in flash video playback. Beware though not to expect anything similar to computer-like performance in this field.
You want a fast, smooth UI and not expect a drawback in battery use? There has got to be a sacrificial lamb in there. The fact that idle drain is already comparable with stock roms means there is no more "battery drain" issue in CM7.
I left CM7 with fugumod kernel overnight, I lost 2% battery in 9 hours.
I left Simplicity overnight. I lost 10% in 9 hours.
Just my findings off of one test
Nice Job
Thank you for your interesting info
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In my experience there is a great improvement in flash performance in cm7 (and decline in samsung's gb). Especially in flash video playback. Beware though not to expect anything similar to computer-like performance in this field.
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I was wondering, in CM7 does flash performance is still as low as in stock roms ? Most of the video websites I visit work awfull on JVR.
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for me, flash is crazy good since jvq and flash update. 720p fluid in the browser. silky smooth scrolling, gpu helps a lot.
Quite accurate but:
-wifi for me is horrible on stock and cm7...compared the galaxy s my old iphone 3gs was much better.
-battery when phone is on use is same on cm7 and stock... 'till you use data connection. When using 2g/3g on cm7, battery goes down like a hell.
This because samsung driver are closed source i suppose.
Imho Gingebread is not a great update respect froyo.
Just switched back to stock rom from cm7 nightly. I really liked cm's features but after a while the battery drain was too much.
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I was just about to post a thread like this! The last samsung rom i tried, jvq, was for lack of a better word, **** compared to CM7. I wondered if JVR was better but its probably not much better than jvq. For me, i think i can live with the 'drawbacks' of CM7 as it just makes the phone as good as it should be - fast as hell.
Interestingly enough, as you can see from my sig im posting from a galaxy tab. The stock sammy firmware on this is much better on this than most stock sgs roms.
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I was just about to post a thread like this! The last samsung rom i tried, jvq, was for lack of a better word, **** compared to CM7. I wondered if JVR was better but its probably not much better than jvq. For me, i think i can live with the 'drawbacks' of CM7 as it just makes the phone as good as it should be - fast as hell.
Interestingly enough, as you can see from my sig im posting from a galaxy tab. The stock sammy firmware on this is much better on this than most stock sgs roms.
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I have to say that I was the same (and I still like to switch roms) but JVR is like from a different dev team at Samsung. I am talking about stock JVR. Give it a try and you will see that it is the perfect stock rom.
My issue with CM7 are the colours. Both on stock and Voodoo. There is something about it that I can't get right even after following a few guides here.
Having said that, CM7 is a very good, features rich, fast rom. I don't think any stock rom would get to that speed due to the filesystem difference.
K.
It's interesting that nobody mentions the problem during calls. Is this an isolated problem, happening to only a few of us ?
I am very very impatient when it comes to responsiveness so I'm on CM7 for a while. Hoever, most likely, I will go back to stock because of:
-problems during calls (other person can't hear me - hold-unhold call sometimes fixes this, sometimes not)
- headset controlls not working (can't answer calls, can't control music); very annoying, this was introduced when a fix for FM radio was tried. FM radio still does not work but it managed to screw up the headset controls
- no 720p recording - well, you CAN record but the frames skip a lot and audio is not synced
- when using 3g/h battery goes down REALLY fast and phone heats up a LOT
- last but not least devs are concentrating on SGS2, so any fixes will probably take a long while to be implemented (if there's gonna be any fixes); the development has slowed a lot (still, my thank to the devs for their hard work)
The grass is always greener on the other side, is it? I love CM for its pure android experience, its speed and the control. But yes, there are bugs and that's to be expected if you have to work with closed source blob's and pretty weird hardware (search for atinm's post in the CM7 thread). I'm willing to live with the remaining bugs because the advantages of CM7 are just to big. But my next phone is going to be a Nexus one for sure. That's the only way I'm guaranteed a real android phone without any of the OEM crap.
Jvr odexed with a few fixes is best for me. Camera, colours, no radio and battery drain just not good enough on cm7 for my needs.
Stock Samsung jvr is better than my cm7 2.2.4 nexus one.
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Why the need? Just for extra features? Is there any *perceivable* performance benefits when using custom ROMs?
EDIT: What about custom kernels + AOSP, any real improvement here?
You're the only one who can decide that. You already have stock, so the custom ROM's will only be giving you a (relatively) small set of added features, many of which can be duplicated with individual apps/mods. Performance benefits are debatable - a custom ROM will give you greater ability to tweak things and possibly speed it up, but on the flipside there's a greater likelihood of messing something up. In my case, the phone is already working as fast as I can imagine, so I'm not sure exactly what performance benefits I would see.
Note that rooting is a separate story, it does allow you to install mods that make the phone a better experience (battery circle as example).
edit: it could be worth installing a stock ROM that's been deodexed, allowing for more mods. I'm thinking about that.
personally I think AOKP and CyanogenMod bring a lot to the table. They essentially fill in gaps Google's left behind. Things like 4.1+'s broken notification system where the phone vibrates on all notifications as a global setting (no option to disable unless you go to silent), despite each app having individual vibrate settings.
It's screwups like these that piss me off. CM makes it easy to fix these things.
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personally I think AOKP and CyanogenMod bring a lot to the table. They essentially fill in gaps Google's left behind. Things like 4.1+'s broken notification system where the phone vibrates on all notifications as a global setting (no option to disable unless you go to silent), despite each app having individual vibrate settings.
It's screwups like these that piss me off. CM makes it easy to fix these things.
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huh...somehow I hadn't realized that, even though my phone's been vibrating away. That is an annoying bug.
CM has faster download speed on WiFi than stock
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Stock is no slouch.
Many AOSP ROMs are no slouch either.
I've come to rely on many of CM's features, so that's what I typically run. As a feature list gets longer, so does the potential bug list though. I've yet to experience a mission critical bug on any ROM I've daily driven; you can usually determine very quickly if a ROM promises a lot of bugs, or is the right one for you.
I don't notice any performance benefits from roms, that's mainly kernel related. I flash roms for the extra features.
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I don't notice any performance benefits from roms, that's mainly kernel related. I flash roms for the extra features.
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DITTO.
asawoszc said:
DITTO.
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When on AOSP, you flash ROMs for the features, the performance gain isn't noticible- ill be rolling stock rom and custom kernel
As much as I like CyanogenMod and it's additional features, I get worried that the performance is sometimes stunted by the open source drivers for key parts of the phone, which sometimes lack the performance and stability of the closed source drivers from the stock ROM. This was my experience from my former phone, the i9000.
Is it the same case for the Nexus 4 and CM? Or is everything completely opened up because it is a AOSP phone (therefore no chance of drivers becoming a cause of performance issue)?
Thanks for the responses, my Nexus 4 is due to arrive in "6-7 weeks".
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As much as I like CyanogenMod and it's additional features, I get worried that the performance is sometimes stunted by the open source drivers for key parts of the phone, which sometimes lack the performance and stability of the closed source drivers from the stock ROM. This was my experience from my former phone, the i9000.
Is it the same case for the Nexus 4 and CM? Or is everything completely opened up because it is a AOSP phone (therefore no chance of drivers becoming a cause of performance issue)?
Thanks for the responses, my Nexus 4 is due to arrive in "6-7 weeks".
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Most of the drivers here are open source. This is an AOSP phone! A built from AOSP will the same as your stock rom.
Besides that there are some niceties of the Qualcom chipset which are under lock&key and proprietary. Some custom kernel's replace these with open source alternatives. (Franco & Faux for example). But as far as I can tell these guys are in the business of stability :good:
Ok, so I've had my Nexus 4 for 2-3 weeks, I'm very impressed.
Though I'm missing some of the little tweaks I used to have when I used CM10.1 on my old phone.
Things I'm concerned about on CM:-
Battery performance
Video decoding compatibility/performance
Camera performance
Can anyone who has experience advise if there any noticeable differences between stock and CM regarding these points?
First one I don't know since I don't run cm.
The rest will be the same as stock. Unlike your old phone ( probably). Cm doesn't have to do any hackery to get things like the camera to work on a officially supported nexus device.
Coming from CM on both the i9000 and the S3, it works flawless on my N4.
I don't notice any performance changes with either CM or AOKP, but I've come to rely on their added features. I also have a custom kernel (franco)...not sure the performance has changed with that either, but battery life is definitely improved.
Running AOKP with Franco r53 surely does make a difference to me. Screen time streched 1 hour more, I like the UI way better because it's so tweakable and other added functional features really get the most out of my phone like lock the screen with the home button drag and more status bar tile functions.
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Running AOKP with Franco r53 surely does make a difference to me. Screen time streched 1 hour more, I like the UI way better because it's so tweakable and other added functional features really get the most out of my phone like lock the screen with the home button drag and more status bar tile functions.
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Screen lock with home button? What a great idea. I have been looking for an app to do that and found a few....but they all have there quirks.
Only thing that I can't get my head around is if there is room for improvement, why don't Google implement it?
I'm not taping about features but performance.
I guess they just want go promote Google Now with it since it opens that by default.
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Custom kernel - Yeah I notice a big difference between franco and stock (roughly double the battery life for my use case.)
Custom rom - The big thing for me was getting control of my volumes, stock you can't set a separate volume for notifications and ringtones but with AOKP I can. Outside of that though I don't notice much difference but I also picked the least different rom.
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Screen lock with home button? What a great idea. I have been looking for an app to do that and found a few....but they all have there quirks.
Only thing that I can't get my head around is if there is room for improvement, why don't Google implement it?
I'm not taping about features but performance.
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Google seems to always leave things in a state of perpetual "beta", I've also noticed that they like to break things and instead of fixing them they take the attitude of "that's how it is now and it's better".
Fortunately they also release phones like the n4 that allows people to hack the crap out of it so some very smart people can fix those mistakes.
I have the opportunity to get a white i9505 with 16 GB RAM for €150.
I would like to understand if a rock stable CM style ROM is available or which one is the most appropriate when this features have priority:
battery running time
phone call quality and app stability
camera app stability and best snapshot quality
GPS signal quality / car navigation quality
overall stability
overall speed
I would like to have at least CM 11 (KitKat) and I did find those candidates (for comparison I also added a stock/CM mix):
[ROM][6.0.1][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 13 Status: Testing; no issues reported in the OP; late thread issues: some apps&root, bluetooth reactivation, laggy lockscreen (pin lock),
[JDCTeam][6.0.1][12 March] Optimized CyanogenMod 13.0 builds Status: Testing; no issues reported in the OP; late thread issues: network change,
[ROM][5.1.1][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 12.1 Status: Testing?; no issues reported in the OP; late thread issues: calls, battery drain, BT issues, random reboot
[JDCTeam][STABLE][5.1.1][26 January] Optimized CyanogenMod 12.1 builds [EOL] Status: Stable; issues reported in the OP: ANT+; late thread issues: RRO, Snap.apk camera crash,
[ROM][Official][4.4.4] CyanogenMod 11.0 Nightlies for the Qcom Intl Galaxy S4 (jflte) Status: Testing; no issues reported in the OP; late thread issues: ? note sure if CM-Wiki is up to date;
[ROM] Super WizCyan - S6 Port [debloated - 543.7MB, rooted + Addon Package]-27-Feb-16 (5.0.1) Status: Stable; issues reported in the OP: Automatic brightness, model & device & product name; late thread issues: ?
Found some useful posts:
sh4z CM12.1, CM11, stock/modded, CM13, oCM12.1, oCM 12.1 a, b
Finatic downgrade CM12.1>CM11, KK is way better then LP or MM,
So it seems CM11 is the most solid and oCM12.1 also solid but not sure if my impressions are well for my requirements.
Any suggestion regarding the listed or other CM style ROM is appreciated. Thank you for your experience.
the xda philosophy is kinda try it and decide for yourself. or search each of those threads with the keyword "bug", the thing is even the exact same models have slightly different versions of the hardware so what works perfectly for one guy can be a nightmare for another.
The only way is to try for yourself.
All roms ran fine for me. It all depends on how you use your phone, really.
I'd say a good starting point would be Optimized CM13. Thanks to the custom kernel included, you can have performance and battery life, depending on what profile you have selected.
From my experience, CM11 usually promises more stability and battery life. I just got i9505 this morning and still testing but CM 12.1 build 20151117 doesn't seem so bad.
In my opinion CM12.1 Snapshot (2015-11-17) is the most Stable ROM for JFLTEXX.
I just got my S4 a few days ago (I paid 50€ ) and running JDC CM 12.1
It's awesome stable and if you install a 3rd party camera app it works just fine
Coming from a S2 witch was petty laggy and crashed quiet often this upgrade is awesome!
I had not even one crash, I'm experiencing no lag and it's really fast
GPS works great, outside it fixes in about 3 seconds
For a good battery review it's too early for me but so far I can't complain, got below 10% awake and in airplane more 0.2%/h loss
I really can recommend this ROM!
There is a more up to date version in the thread but it's not listed on the first page, it's from 25.02.2016 just look for it
Just a little feedback on Official Cm12.1 (CM 12.1 build 2015/11/17) - been using this as a daily driver for a few weeks now (using novalauncher for my homescreen).
Performance & battery has been generally fine - even with moderate use (wifi or mobile data constantly left enabled, plenty of screen-on time, lots of photos, frequent use of whatsapp & SMS, email etc - but not really anything particularly draining such as long trips with GPS, or extended media usage), I get a good 2 and a bit days from each charge...
I'm sure I'd find my battery taking more of a hit if I were using it as an MP3 player to/from work, or having to use GPS frequently, but for day-to-day usage, battery has been excellent.
The included camera is good - nothing special to report (which is a good thing imo). No bugs, no unexpected behavior for good or ill, and no need to change the camera app unless there's a specific need (for higher-end functions, etc..).
Nightclub, low-light photos have been acceptable, daytime "optimal circumstances" pics have been great.
My girlfriend's S5 (using Samsung-branded rom) camera is more annoying, taking longer to find focus, is more temperamental (sometimes will only find focus if flash is on) and more unpredictable in what the resulting image will look like.
I'm not a camera geek (unless we're talking film SLRs), but I prefer mine to hers.
I've tested the GPS a few times, from cold-start it's about as quick as my standalone tomtom unit (not enough difference for me to put them side by side to test), and definitely faster to locate my initial position than my Gal-S2 using stock rom.
No drop-outs yet, but I've only used it briefly for testing, I've not had to do any long distance trips yet.
Again, only my gut feeling, but if it had taken an inordinately long time to locate me, then I'd have done some further testing...
Stability has been wonderful - no reboots, no mysterious crashes, or hangs to date.
I did get an error when I first installed, because after flashing the rom I (foolishly) rebooted before flashing GAPPS (which I should have done *immediately* after flashing the rom before leaving recovery), but a quick factory wipe & reflash of GAPPS sorted this without even having to reflash the rom. Bonus.
The only annoying things I've found are;
A) Lack of USB mass-storage (UMS). This is intrinsic to android though, only going back to version (what? 4.2? 4.4? Something like that) would help as my understanding is that it is simply no longer supported as a whole, and not the fault of any specific rom.
There is a semi-hidden option to use UMS available when the device is already connected to your PC via cable, but so far this has been of little use as it still doesn't let me access the SD card like the old Mass Storage function used to.
B) USB OTG. Worked out of the box first time, but after that first use, my device no longer detected a USB OTG cable was connected.
To rectify this issue, I simply rooted the device, and used Chainfire's StickMount (or USB OTG helper, either app worked), and now USB OTG is again fully supported.
I can't give any constructive feedback on the other roms you suggested - I briefly tried Official CM13, but one of my "must have" apps (ACR - automatic call recorder) was not playing nicely with CM13, so I immediately switched to CM12.1, and the exact-same .apk now works flawlessly.
I can't say if it's to do with Marshmallow, the CM13 rom, or what, so that's only a tenuous, anecdotal report.
Anyway, hope this helps narrow it down for you - for me, CM12.1 has been perfect; Stable, good battery life, and no unexpected behavior - pretty much everything I want from a rom tbh...
First of all, thank you that you dont open a thread with something like that:"What best rom for s4". Nice to see that you search for infos in the forum before you open up an thread! My favourite is CM12.1 last nightly!
My experience with other ROMs:
CM13 Nightly Bluetooth, Laggy UI and Bad Performance compared to CM12.1
Optimized CM13 network change, no EDGE only HSDPA and LTE, for CM12.1 performance you need "extreme performance" profile, touch issues
CM12.1 Snapshot/Nightly Sometime call issues (testing a solution)
Opzimized CM12.1 Snap Cam crash, huge BT issues with some drives, not best performance, touch issues
CM11 Nightly App crash in the background, than phone gets hot and takes down the battery in some hours.
Why CM12.1?
-Good batterylife
-Great performance (with l speed about 38.000P at AnTuTu)
-BT works to 99%
-no freeze and reboot in over 700h uptime
-smooth IU
-charging up to 1900mAh
-with faster GPS you get your postition in seconds
Thank you very much to all for your comments and statements. They help a lot and I think I will focus on CM12.1 variants testing.
I have a further question in my head: I wonder how CM12.1 is compared to the stock ROM regarding the features I care most for?
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battery running time
phone call quality and app stability
camera app stability and best snapshot quality
GPS signal quality / car navigation quality
overall stability
overall speed
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I've tested all ROMs from above and I have to say one thing - CM11 is the best ROM for daily usage. Without any custom kernels. And I will be use CM11 while it got updates.
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MuF123 said:
When we are supposed to go that back into past, isn't it actually worth going for some lightweight TW ROM?
Any ideas which light TW rom to try? Do those have any BT issues?
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OMEGA TW Custom ROM (4.4.2) with Aroma Installer can be lightweight ROM without most of bloatware. I've test it and havn't any BT issues.
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I've tested all ROMs from above and I have to say one thing - CM11 is the best ROM for daily usage. Without any custom kernels. And I will be use CM11 while it got updates.
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Personally, I like my Optimised CM 12.1
even if some points are really annoying me, and I might go back to TW...
- Screen is brighter
- Phone volume is louder
Are those problems present in CM 11? Can't remember.
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Are those problems present in CM 11? Can't remember.
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As for me I havnt issues like above.
MY GT-I9505 personal ROMS experience:
I tested ALL roms:
CM13: It ROCKS! NO Bugs or so ever, smooth experience, snappy camera, (BTW I'm using CAMERA FV-5, which give you better image quality in settings, and advanced controlle), GOOD battery life, call and signal quality is perfect, gps and sensonrs work fine.
SUPER Wizcyan: In the beginning it seemed fine, until I installed all my apps, the the crapy lag beggined. NOT recommended.
CM12.1: SAME AS 13 BUT!: I prefer cm13 because it it more devolopped and has better software, even if it's still nightly builds.
HERE Begins your personal experience, Choose what YOU want and prefer, this is only MY review for this roms.
I've been using MIUI 8 for about a week now, and it's clear to me by now that MIUI hate notifications. that ain't no setting that I haven't tried (turned MIUI energy management on and off, added apps to it's whitelist when it was on, locked the process in the process screen, etc.) but still, there is no app that delivers all notifications, and the few that they actually deliver are usually pretty late. is there a way to fix this? or should I give up on MIUI 8 entirely?
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I've been using MIUI 8 for about a week now, and it's clear to me by now that MIUI hate notifications. that ain't no setting that I haven't tried (turned MIUI energy management on and off, added apps to it's whitelist when it was on, locked the process in the process screen, etc.) but still, there is no app that delivers all notifications, and the few that they actually deliver are usually pretty late. is there a way to fix this? or should I give up on MIUI 8 entirely?
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Give Up.. Use CM13 or any other ASOP based rom.. You will have absolutely no problem.. You will love them straight away
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Give Up.. Use CM13 or any other ASOP based rom.. You will have absolutely no problem.. You will love them straight away
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the problem is that I'm already coming from an AOSP based ROM - dirty unicorns, to be precise. but that ROM was somehow too heavy, or maybe not properly optimized. it was too slow for some reason. which one are you using?
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the problem is that I'm already coming from an AOSP based ROM - dirty unicorns, to be precise. but that ROM was somehow too heavy, or maybe not properly optimized. it was too slow for some reason. which one are you using?
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1GB RAM variant? I am using the official CM13. No problems till now.
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the problem is that I'm already coming from an AOSP based ROM - dirty unicorns, to be precise. but that ROM was somehow too heavy, or maybe not properly optimized. it was too slow for some reason. which one are you using?
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I am using CM13.. Its officially supported and has great community behind it.. try it.. I am also using berserk kernal on top of it
I've faced the same issue. Looks like MIUI somehow removes the app from memory for the sake of saving battery. Switched to RR now but I'd still switch to MIUI for camera's sake, this is something custom ROMs still lack. MIUI's camera is just easy and has some good features.
Hey to all of you Kind enough to take the time out and read this, as we ALL know XDA has been a Community for Android enthusiast from all over the world, I am one of you... I am hoping to get some Honest Feed Back for you Guys that are more incline about the OnePlus 5, so here I go, I just got a GREAT DEAL on my OnePlus 5, its the A5000, i dont know if theirs different model number for thr OP5, i do know the the OP3 & 3T has different Model #'s Cause I had that device as well, So I am Hoping you Guys can Tell Me which " 1 " of these Custom Roms is Best for Stability, Faster Internet, and Data speeds, Pretty much FAST in General, Plus decent in Battery Life as well. Im Looking to Stay as stock as Possible as well with the Original OOS. I am Hoping I can get some Help Here, will Truly Appreciate some Honest Feed Back, Thanks In Advance, and God Bless...
TBH all OOS based or the major ones(freedom os , xXx, Experience os) i have tried have been the almost the same offering battery speed and smoothness in general close to stock .Stock/Official OOS is optimized enough already that been said some kernels do help like i felt the phone a tad snappier with blu_spark and the battery to last a tad longer with Franco and with the new addition of ATK tweaks just flashing that might help you a bit in both aspects of performance and battery. Although I haven't tried flashing the atk tweak so i will inform you how much of an improvement is there.
Now trying the major oos roms i could say - xXx gives the most tweakablity compared to any oos roms and up-to-date tweaks so if you want fast updates on tweaks like modded youtube, Magisk and additions like google camera and dialer i would say go with xXx
Freedom os i guess i thought was a bit more performance based yet like a said difference is not noticeable
both oos roms offer debloating
Now if you want the same performance but stock os i would recommend trying pure fusion it provides stock os with oos camera
Freedom OS and use franco kernel. His improvements on everything about the stock experience is way better. The man even reduced power consumption with the display. So without his kernel the display eats more juice just being on. Its better to just install a stock based rom and use a kernel that sits in the background. Just install his kernel and forget it and roll with each new Freedom OS update.
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So I am Hoping you Guys can Tell Me which " 1 " of these Custom Roms is Best for Stability, Faster Internet, and Data speeds, Pretty much FAST in General, Plus decent in Battery Life as well....
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You really need to do some reading on what a ROM/Kernel will and will not do for you. Data speeds, internet will be the same- Excluding any abnormal errors with a bad rom build.
Furthermore, *not necessarily*, but the faster you want things to go, it's likely that you may take a battery hit of trying to go faster than the device wants to..
Lastly, your question is akin to asking "What is THE best car out there for me?" Nobody on this planet knows but you. YOU need to test them. First take the car out for a spin, see what YOU like. Then get people's opinions. If you like it, then like it. Some people love the Honda Pilot. Other people like Chevy Camaro. Neither are bad cars inherently. Just different strokes for different folks.
ROMS are much of the same way. I personally recommend you try Freedom OS and XXX for the OOS based ROMS.
For custom based... I recommend trying Pure Fusion ROM + Flash Kernel, Paranoid Android Unofficial, Resurrection Remix Official (You NEED flash kernel or Bluspark, otherwise in my experience it's been quite laggy)
Why do you think you need to flash a custom ROM the minute you turn on your phone? The best setup I have found for speed and stability is stock OOS rooted with Magisk, using Blu Spark kernel with speed lane enabled. I tried both xXx No Limits and Freedom ROM which are OOS based. They are both terrible. The absolute only reason people don't realize that they are ROMs that are actually worse than stock OOS is because they are also people who flashed a custom ROM as soon as they got their phones and are simply assuming the custom ROM is superior to stock OOS which they never bothered to use in the first place. xXx No Limits is not only much more buggy than stock OOS but it is also slower. Freedom ROM was overly debloated by the dev who removed some system apps/processes from stock OOS that should not have been removed. Some apps that auto load automatically on stock OOS will not boot up with Freedom ROM no matter what you do. Other apps behave differently on stock OOS and Freedom OOS--ongoing notifications and status bar icons are missing when the apps are used in Freedom--things like that. Unless you plan on using an AOSP or LOS ROM there is no reason to flash a custom ROM. You are much better off staying on stock OOS and using a custom kernel made for stock OOS.
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Why do you think you need to flash a custom ROM the minute you turn on your phone? The best setup I have found for speed and stability is stock OOS rooted with Magisk, using Blu Spark kernel with speed lane enabled. I tried both xXx No Limits and Freedom ROM which are OOS based. They are both terrible. The absolute only reason people don't realize that they are ROMs that are actually worse than stock OOS is because they are also people who flashed a custom ROM as soon as they got their phones and are simply assuming the custom ROM is superior to stock OOS which they never bothered to use in the first place. xXx No Limits is not only much more buggy than stock OOS but it is also slower. Freedom ROM was overly debloated by the dev who removed some system apps/processes from stock OOS that should not have been removed. Some apps that auto load automatically on stock OOS will not boot up with Freedom ROM no matter what you do. Other apps behave differently on stock OOS and Freedom OOS--ongoing notifications and status bar icons are missing when the apps are used in Freedom--things like that. Unless you plan on using an AOSP or LOS ROM there is no reason to flash a custom ROM. You are much better off staying on stock OOS and using a custom kernel made for stock OOS.
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^ this. Finally someone speaking sense. Only thing I disagree with is custom kernels. Stock oxygen os kernel gives significantly better battery than the rest (except simplegx, which is stock with some tweaked governors).
If you want to make big improvements to battery life, figure out what you have for wakelocks and fix them. Also, get rid of Facebook and FB messenger app. These days a kernel won't magically since poor battery life due to wakelocks.
People here talking about XXX and freedom being "custom roms" when they're nothing more than stock oos wrapped in an aroma installer ?
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These days a kernel won't magically since poor battery life due to wakelocks.
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That is only true for when the device is not in use (i.e., when in standby).
But what about when you're using it? Wakelocks are not a thing anymore.
So how will you improve battery life during usage?
Answer: With a custom kernel.
You can underclock the CPU/GPU, change some other parameters and get more battery life.
Sure, you sacrifice some performance, but the OnePlus 5 has plenty of horsepower under the hood, it won't bog down that easily.