Is there a version of Gcam that uses the dual lens for calculating the depth and then using Gcam's hdr+ enhanced. Google Pixel 2 uses split pixels for approx. the depth. Can the dual cam of Mi A1 or any other phone that has dual lens be used for calculating the depth?
The 2nd camera of the MiA1 is used for 2x zoom pics. Its not used to calculate depth of the subject in portrait mode.
barrack1 said:
The 2nd camera of the MiA1 is used for 2x zoom pics. Its not used to calculate depth of the subject in portrait mode.
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This is wrong... stock Xiaomi's camera does use both cameras to create fake "depth" effect.
Google Camera does this through software only and does not require 2nd camera, I've never seen any hack of GCam using 2 cameras.
May be After Android Pie update.-
BtB said:
This is wrong... stock Xiaomi's camera does use both cameras to create fake "depth" effect.
Google Camera does this through software only and does not require 2nd camera, I've never seen any hack of GCam using 2 cameras.
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Android 9 was supposed to have support for dual camera. As of now there is no support for dual camera in pixel devices and since google camera is ported from pixel or nexus device so there is no port that use both camera for bokeh. there is magisk module where it use tele lens. But both camera being used simultaneously is not happening any sooner may be in future.
BtB said:
This is wrong... stock Xiaomi's camera does use both cameras to create fake "depth" effect.
Google Camera does this through software only and does not require 2nd camera, I've never seen any hack of GCam using 2 cameras.
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No, you are confused. The Mi A1 (and other Xiaomi phones like the Mi Mix 2s) uses software to create the depth of field effect. The 2nd rear camera module on the Mi A1 is used for 2x zoom only.
barrack1 said:
No, you are confused. The Mi A1 (and other Xiaomi phones like the Mi Mix 2s) uses software to create the depth of field effect. The 2nd rear camera module on the Mi A1 is used for 2x zoom only.
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Then check 2 attached pictures taken with "portrait mode".
First one, just take the pic:
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Second one I hid 2nd objective with my finger...
Oh... No depth effect...
Software is of course used, but to combine pictures from both cameras.
barrack1 said:
The 2nd camera of the MiA1 is used for 2x zoom pics. Its not used to calculate depth of the subject in portrait mode.
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barrack1 said:
No, you are confused. The Mi A1 (and other Xiaomi phones like the Mi Mix 2s) uses software to create the depth of field effect. The 2nd rear camera module on the Mi A1 is used for 2x zoom only.
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Plus as well from http://in.c.mi.com/in/thread-843074-1-0.html :
The 50 mm telephoto lens captures the main object and 26 mm wide angle lens assists depth of field measurement. The stereoscopic imaging and deep learning algorithm then processes the individual images and produces a bokeh effect that is DSLR like in nature.
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Then check 2 attached pictures taken with "portrait mode".
First one, just take the pic:
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Second one I hid 2nd objective with my finger...
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Oh... No depth effect...
Software is of course used, but to combine pictures from both cameras.
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You're right, my mistake. I read somewhere that the MiA1 primarily uses software for the bokeh effect which was wrong.
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You're right, my mistake. I read somewhere that the MiA1 primarily uses software for the bokeh effect which was wrong.
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Actually, what you read might still be true.
Since it says that it uses "primarily" software, it could mean that 90% of the bokeh effect comes from software and it only uses 10% of the data from the 2nd camera, I have no idea how much is software and how much is hardware, but clearly it won't work with just one camera, while Google's algorithm is 100% software for sure (Pixels have single cameras).
And to get back to OP's question, from what I read, Google's algorithm is pretty damn good, so not sure there would be a benefit of using the dual lens... I've not installed the "hacks" to get Camera2 API and EIS, so I'm not using Google Camera, but if you have, I suggest you could make a test and compare both, and see which one is better.
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Actually, what you read might still be true.
Since it says that it uses "primarily" software, it could mean that 90% of the bokeh effect comes from software and it only uses 10% of the data from the 2nd camera, I have no idea how much is software and how much is hardware, but clearly it won't work with just one camera, while Google's algorithm is 100% software for sure (Pixels have single cameras).
And to get back to OP's question, from what I read, Google's algorithm is pretty damn good, so not sure there would be a benefit of using the dual lens... I've not installed the "hacks" to get Camera2 API and EIS, so I'm not using Google Camera, but if you have, I suggest you could make a test and compare both, and see which one is better.
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It was a while ago, and thinking at length about it, I could be wrong on remembering that it was primarily software as well. Not where I read it from but more info about portrait mode:
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-enable-portrait-mode-on-any-phone/
Gcam is very useful for indoor/low light photos, the difference is quite noticeable. No permanent root or hacks to do get gcam.
Roughly all you have to do is run 2 commands as root to get gcam working. If you know how to boot to twrp and use adb shell its very easy. The part about locking back the bootloader is optional, but you can relock it if you want . Locking/unlocking will delete data unless you press some buttons down so its better to make backups first.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/how-to/root-enable-camera2api-eis-t3749541
Related
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/93c9ada2ad4d20f983f3269bdb10c7c9.jpg
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http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/15c6e2c354905a9300da277dc6326ec5.jpg
http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/fa4fb57af7c61c23e5831db6ac39f6b7.jpg
What do you think?
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http://www.iouppo.com/lite/pic/15c6e...7dc6326ec5.jpg
What do you think?
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I think your links don't work.
Yes... File not Found is all I get too.
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Yes... File not Found is all I get too.
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Link update
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Link update
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No... Still showing file not found.
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No... Still showing file not found.
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Link 1° post work!!!
faby71 said:
Link 1° post work!!!
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Where did you bought it?
Wow, very nice!
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Where did you bought it?
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swiss
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swiss
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Ah, so bad! xD
Soooo much noise and artifact in those shots, resolved detail not very good either.
That said, looks like HTCs best camera ever (apart from perhaps the Mozart with its Xenon Flash, but I haven't seen many examples from that handset yet).
I think that mobile phones' cameras are not for the ones who are obsessed with photo quality.
I am sure long years I will prefer to carry a DSLR camera even though I have got a 8 mp camera integrated phone.
i agree buying a phone based on its camera is silly, the only time i have ever used my phone camera was when i got a parking ticket so i took photos of the signage and my car wrote a letter to the council and got off without having to pay
if i know im going to take photos i just take my DSLR
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Soooo much noise and artifact in those shots, resolved detail not very good either.
That said, looks like HTCs best camera ever (apart from perhaps the Mozart with its Xenon Flash, but I haven't seen many examples from that handset yet).
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Yes, I agree.
However, what I am finding is the DHD does not leave much EXIF data.
Below is what is missing when shown in PhotoMe which is shown on the SGS:-
Under Overview
Aperture
Exposure Time
Program Mode
Flash Mode
Metering Mode
White Balance
Under Image
Orientation of Image
Software Firmware
Under Thumbnail view
Nothing. There's no section!
Under Camera
Exposure Time
F-Stop
Exposure Program
Shutter Speed
Aperture
Brightness
Exposure Bias
Maximum Lens Aperture
Metering Mode
Light Source
Flash Details
Manufacturer Notes
Sensing Method
Scene Type
Exposure Mode
White Balance
Digital Zoom Ratio
Focal Length in 35mm Film
Scene Capture Type
Contrast
Saturation
Sharpness
eozen81 said:
I think that mobile phones' cameras are not for the ones who are obsessed with photo quality.
I am sure long years I will prefer to carry a DSLR camera even though I have got a 8 mp camera integrated phone.
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Nice
More photos..............
Any chance in taking an evening shot (sunset/sunrise) without flash.
Also if possible another two low light shots with and without flash (basically the same shot for comparison on how well the camera handles low lighting with & without a flash).
Cheers.
Ouch those shots are really poor in terms of quality, noise, too strong noisereduction, chromatic abberation and hell everything.
I'm afraid Nokia N8 wins this round.
/ Magnus
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eozen81 said:
I think that mobile phones' cameras are not for the ones who are obsessed with photo quality.
I am sure long years I will prefer to carry a DSLR camera even though I have got a 8 mp camera integrated phone.
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You don't need to be obsessed with photo quality to demand more from your mobile phone camera than the Desire HD is offering though. For many of us the camera is quite an important consideration because day to day photography with our phones is part of our regular use (most of us don't carry a DSLR all the time, eh?). Its nice to have shots that are 'good enough' for that kind of casual photography, and many other non-HTC phones offer that.
I won't, and haven't ever, based a decision to buy a phone solely on the camera, but certainly its a consideration, more important for some of us than others (but you can't dictate to others how they come to a decision to get a phone or not).
So how are people finding the camera? I'm used to tapping to focus first for my pics. I've not tested the camera much yet but it seems OK. Just wondering how I can refocus it or do I have to just trust it?
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Just wondering how I can refocus it or do I have to just trust it?
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If you swipe right, the third menu option is the manual focus and exposure box. Once turned on, you can drag the focus box to where you want the phone to focus. You can also adjust exposure by dragging the round slider around the box.
Ahh that definitely helps thanks.
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I love the camera, sure sometimes miss OIS.
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Upload runied quality?
There is some purple-fringing (chromatic aberration) on high contrast areas, but otherwise I'm very happy with the camera.
(look at the white on the turn signs on the streetlight for an example).
Photosphere
I'm using the Google camera instead of the moto cam. Does anyone know how I get the missing photosphere functionality back?
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I'm using the Google camera instead of the moto cam. Does anyone know how I get the missing photosphere functionality back?
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You can't. The Moto X Play doesn't have a gyroscope, which means it won't be able to take Photospheres.
I am using the HTC camera and gallery, a friend has a Nexus 6 and sent me this link. I thought I'd give it a try and the camera is much better than the cyanogenmod camera. The below link, once downloaded, you just install the APKs, not flash them in TWRP.
Download the APKs here.
This is a quick photo I took up close using the above HTC camera.
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You can't. The Moto X Play doesn't have a gyroscope, which means it won't be able to take Photospheres.
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I'm quite missing the Google Camera's panorama (never used photosphere), the Moto Camera just isn't the same. I hate having to rotate the phone with constant motion (Google's has those easy blue dots to aim for) and the resolution seems poor. Does anyone have any suggestions?
What I'd like to know is, has anyone figured out how to change the default folder for saving photos/videos? Seems like this basic feature is missing from the Moto camera...
It's there you just have to know where to look.
Start the camera first then follow information below.
See the screen shot - drag menu out from left hand edge.
Select the storage icon - then select either phone or SD card on the right side.
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What I'd like to know is, has anyone figured out how to change the default folder for saving photos/videos? Seems like this basic feature is missing from the Moto camera...
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Ah stupid me, though they could've put that in the hint amongst all the others are start up. Thanks!
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I'm quite missing the Google Camera's panorama (never used photosphere), the Moto Camera just isn't the same. I hate having to rotate the phone with constant motion (Google's has those easy blue dots to aim for) and the resolution seems poor. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Once again, there's no gyroscope on this phone, so it has no way of detecting motion along the horizontal or vertical axis. Hence, assistance taking panoramas isn't possible (like the blue dots).
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Once again, there's no gyroscope on this phone, so it has no way of detecting motion along the horizontal or vertical axis. Hence, assistance taking panoramas isn't possible (like the blue dots).
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I understand that. However, Panorama 360 has the helper dots (it uses the compass) it just has poor resolution photos which is similar to the Moto Camera. Shame nothing can come close to Google Camera. Seems a bit of an oversight not to include a gyroscope!
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I understand that. However, Panorama 360 has the helper dots (it uses the compass) it just has poor resolution photos which is similar to the Moto Camera. Shame nothing can come close to Google Camera. Seems a bit of an oversight not to include a gyroscope!
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Oh trust me, as a Google Cardboard owner, I miss the gyroscope a fair bit.
Macro
What about your macro shoots?
Is there a bug or some not finalized camera code by Motorola? When I point camera for a close shoot it auto focuses, but not that well so I point focus manually and it looses focus at all, view turns worst than it was with auto focus. BUT if I point and hold focus with my finger I see that camera zooms and focuses quiet well just it turns back to blurred position. So, as I understand it can focus closer just the code or a bug doesn't let it and bringing back to the starting auto focus position.
Any solutions?
Tried lot of camera apps (stock, HTC camera, Google camera, VSCO camera, FV-5 full version, Open camera) but problem still exists.
Moto x play shot unedited
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Macro test shot
Camera is good for a cellphone, except in low light where it take crappy pictures
The first thing I noticed when using the camera on this phone was how the images looked over processed. Most notably, I did a digital zoom photo yesterday and the sharpening on it was disgusting. It didn't even look like a photo.
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See what I mean? All I did was zoom in and take a photo. It looks horrible.
Look at this picture for example
Even just zoomed in a bit you can see way too much sharpening going on
Now I know this phone is a "budget phone" but it supposedly has the same lens as the Galaxy S7 so that isn't really an excuse. It looks like it comes down to it being the processing that moto put in.
Can anybody out there please let me know if rooting my phone and shooting RAW will produce cleaner photos? I would have to guess so, since I can control the sharpening myself. I haven't been able to find any RAW samples from this phone.
is it a software thing? I've converted to snap camera on whatever device.
I'm afraid it's in the firmware. Any camera app I've tried yields the same results
U should probably return or replace u your phone I had the same issue without even zooming
The phone couldn't focus on things right next the camera mine also had pink tints while recording
So I got mine replaced
Now everything works good
It's also the processor. The G5 plus has the 625 while the S7 had the 820 allowing for much better image processing.
nigaindelhi said:
U should probably return or replace u your phone I had the same issue without even zooming
The phone couldn't focus on things right next the camera mine also had pink tints while recording
So I got mine replaced
Now everything works good
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Well it focuses just fine, and pictures in day light look alright but there is some heavy noticeable processing going on in the moto firmware.
This picture looks pretty good but if you zoom in just a bit you can really see the over sharpening.
Here is a photo of my Nexus 5x
It looks much cleaner to me. Less over processing and less sharpening artifacts. The processor on the G5 Plus should be pretty comparable to the 808 in the N5x so I really don't think its a processor issue. It seems to me like it was a design choice by Moto. All of the sample photos I have seen also have too much sharpening. I am strongly considering just rooting the device and shooting raw. At least then I can control the sharpening myself
Well then we would have to wait for an update then
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It's also the processor. The G5 plus has the 625 while the S7 had the 820 allowing for much better image processing.
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It should make no difference, if you do the same processing in software - other than perhaps taking slightly longer to process the photo?
Otherwise, we'll have to shoot RAW if we want the best quality I guess?
It seems to me however, that any settings affecting the image processing quality should have parameters which could be changed?
critofur said:
It should make no difference, if you do the same processing in software - other than perhaps taking slightly longer to process the photo?
Otherwise, we'll have to shoot RAW if we want the best quality I guess?
It seems to me however, that any settings affecting the image processing quality should have parameters which could be changed?
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The processor contains the ISP or the Image Signal Processor which controls HDR, white balance, auto focus, exposure, color filters and so on. The better the ISP the better the image. So while the 2 phones have the same sensor they will never have the same image results because they have different processors and the more powerful chips have better ISP on board resulting in better images even with the same sensor.
The strength of this camera's focusing is in the sensor chip - "dual pixel focus".
All the other things you mention such as white balance, HDR, color filters are applied after the RAW image is taken - so, there's really no reason that you couldn't generate the same quality of image.
if nothing else, I'm upgrading my everyday knock around (2015) moto e. I won't complain toooooo much.
I have to agree with the OP on this one - there is some horrendous post-processing going on with this phone.
I'd love to get that to stop - even if we have to go to RAW/DNG to get it.
Has anyone done the root/Freedcam method described in another thread on here and gotten DNGs from this camera?
I'd love to see how they look... I'll eventually do it when LOS gets stable enough.
wait couple of days more, there will be some nice mods incoming for g5p camera.
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I have to agree with the OP on this one - there is some horrendous post-processing going on with this phone.
I'd love to get that to stop - even if we have to go to RAW/DNG to get it.
Has anyone done the root/Freedcam method described in another thread on here and gotten DNGs from this camera?
I'd love to see how they look... I'll eventually do it when LOS gets stable enough.
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2017_05_09_17_44_53-Edit-Edit by defcomk, on Flickr
Raw No Flat Field Correction - Bad Noise Profile so color bleed when doing NR
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Raw No Flat Field Correction - Bad Noise Profile so color bleed when doing NR
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Looks like a promising photo to me!
I'm new around XDA... is will flat field correction and NR come with time, or is this the best we'll get?
srb- said:
Looks like a promising photo to me!
I'm new around XDA... is will flat field correction and NR come with time, or is this the best we'll get?
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Probably before Friday its only day two of having the phone but thanks for reminding me gonna do flat field now light nice and diffused
Hey XZP owners is there any 3rd party camera apps which supports 19 mp full resolution setting. I already tried fv-5 and better camera but showing only 8 mp maximum resolution.
Open Camera is pretty much the best camera app in the store imo.
mukul93 said:
Hey XZP owners is there any 3rd party camera apps which supports 19 mp full resolution setting. I already tried fv-5 and better camera but showing only 8 mp maximum resolution.
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Someone posted that antuutu benchmark program says the rear camera is only 8.3MP. Maybe not an error after all. Can somebody download phone info and let us know that has the phone. I'll wont be getting my girlfriend's phone until after July 3rd
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It's only 8.3 MP if you use 3rd party software. Reason is Sonys pathetic, no self-esteem move to LIMIT the API-2 interface to 8.3 in case 3rd party apps are being used.
Just so you understand this: You paid for a phone and Sony LITERALLY FREAKING TELLS YOU what software to use with it. They actually block it. And the best part of it, they don't even get their own freakin software straight.
I was so looking forward to this phone, seriously. Now I'm going to sell it, hope some dude pays ~650 $ and get me an S8 or HTC. Never ever ever again Sony. This is so so so ridiculous.
Return it and stop complaining.
Now Camera MX showing 19 mp full resolution. Enjoy.
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Now Camera MX showing 19 mp full resolution. Enjoy.
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Nothing to enjoy here. Camera MX does not offer Camera API-2 support and hence can't make use of manual exposure or ISO settings. It's not about using "some" 3rd party app but making use of the cameras potential.
What about open camera from gp
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What about open camera from gp
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Turn it on and see for yourself if you don't believe me.
Only 8 MP when using API2 and 1/10sec exposure time. Sony blocks it.
try this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riseupgames.proshot2
Open camera and camera zoom allow 19.2 selection.
Also in FV5 force the legacy driver and 19.2 is available.
Snap Camera, superior to all!
FartyParty said:
Snap Camera, superior to all!
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Interesting discussion...
Since I previously bought just about all camera apps in the past 4-5 years I confirm that the paid versions on Camera Zoom FX and Vignette both support full features. Again, these are the premium versions which do unlock extra features
Experia xz camera
An 19Mpixel camera only has 50% green 25% blou and 25%red pixels so 8,2Mpixels is not bad åt all!
WildBit said:
Interesting discussion...
Since I previously bought just about all camera apps in the past 4-5 years I confirm that the paid versions on Camera Zoom FX and Vignette both support full features. Again, these are the premium versions which do unlock extra features
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But is there any difference in image quality between those apps and the stock app? I've tried AOSP with the Google Camera and that is so much better than stock. There isn't really any difference between open camera and the xz2 camera app
Open Camera crop
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Moarten said:
But is there any difference in image quality between those apps and the stock app? I've tried AOSP with the Google Camera and that is so much better than stock. There isn't really any difference between open camera and the xz2 camera app
Open Camera crop
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How can I use Google camera? It's much better than Sony stock camera?
tainhao said:
How can I use Google camera? It's much better than Sony stock camera?
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Only if you have flashed AOSP (well maybe it works on stock but then there is no difference in image quality). The images are much sharper, have more detail and in low light they are a bit brighter. HOWEVER, you lose the noise reduction so there is a lot of noise in the images. You can correct this with an app like lightroom, but thats a lot of work if you just want to take a quick photo of something.
I've made some test photo's with AOSP and google camera a while ago. It was a lot darker when I took the bicycle photo's than the images suggest, but zoom in and you see the amount of detail (and noise) it has.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uJvTuUjjBqDZ3YzV3awAZldzFqFNniza
Moarten said:
Only if you have flashed AOSP (well maybe it works on stock but then there is no difference in image quality). The images are much sharper, have more detail and in low light they are a bit brighter. HOWEVER, you lose the noise reduction so there is a lot of noise in the images. You can correct this with an app like lightroom, but thats a lot of work if you just want to take a quick photo of something.
I've made some test photo's with AOSP and google camera a while ago. It was a lot darker when I took the bicycle photo's than the images suggest, but zoom in and you see the amount of detail (and noise) it has.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uJvTuUjjBqDZ3YzV3awAZldzFqFNniza
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Do you try this?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/pom-snappatch-xperia-aosp-t3777322
And this?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/how-to/solved-xperia-aosp-problems-stock-t3776857
Is the noise reduction working with Google camera?
I tried in bad light and good light. With HDR, with night settings, nothing changed. Only manual setting allow to choose second lens 20mpx and give better light.
How do I know ?
I made picture on auto mode in described situations. One photo with covered ultrapixel lens by my finger, and second without finger on lens. No differences. Photos looks the same. Maybe software is broken. Now second lens is not used...
Maybe in 6X work better?
Yes, it's the same here.
I saw that the app is not saving the original photo
Same here (both problems). I think we need a SW update for this to be fixed.
I also find it frustrating that I can't set the resolution of the photo.
Also, the front facing camera can do [email protected] using Open Camera, but the stock camera app doesn't allow it.
These things should be submitted via the feedback app, but I don't have a Xiaomi account and don't want to create one.
It's my first Xiaomi and I'm disappointed with the camera, It does not deliver what it promises
Obviously the 2nd camera (20mp) is being used! Nevermind the subject...just a quick shot, but if you look at the info the pic is 20.1 MP which is the secondary camera used for depth and low light. And this was taken in quite a dark room.
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Should not this photo use the 20 megapixel lens?
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20mp only in manual mode.
stopthetime said:
Should not this photo use the 20 megapixel lens?
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Maybe it is being used only when you manualy choose HHT option in stock camera, on three dots in right corner.
videotape74 said:
Obviously the 2nd camera (20mp) is being used! Nevermind the subject...just a quick shot, but if you look at the info the pic is 20.1 MP which is the secondary camera used for depth and low light. And this was taken in quite a dark room.
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Do you remember which camera settings this shot was set to? I mean was it 'photo' and 'hht'? Or maybe the 'manual' with low light lens selected?
I guess we're still trying to figure out how this app is 'suppose' to work, as we don't know if it's doing as it should or not!
But for sure, there are some great capabilities here, I took this indoors (last night), after the sept update, very realistic colors and awesome details.
The 20mp sensor is used for depth and for low light only. Switch to portrait mode and it will use the 20mp sensor because it is measuring and capturing depth. In low light it uses it to measure the pixels then transforms 4 pixels into 1 for a cleaner image. It is then output as a 12mp image.
The pic I took was using portrait mode.
here's the reason.
This will only be available in the future. Maybe Android p?
videotape74 said:
The 20mp sensor is used for depth and for low light only. Switch to portrait mode and it will use the 20mp sensor because it is measuring and capturing depth. In low light it uses it to measure the pixels then transforms 4 pixels into 1 for a cleaner image. It is then output as a 12mp image.
The pic I took was using portrait mode.
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So 20/4 is 12?
Benjamin_L said:
So 20/4 is 12?
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It is not 20/4, it is the pixel count and it's not a division.
videotape74 said:
It is not 20/4, it is the pixel count and it's not a division.
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How would you bin then? Each four pixels make up a huge new "pixel". Of course this is a division by four..
I had issue when trying to take photo in landscape orientation and in low light. I tried several times and every time photo was blurry. In portrait orientation (not mode) picture was just fine. My hand was not shaky. It was with august fw. Ill try tonight same scene with September update. Don't know if anyone else noticed this...
Benjamin_L said:
So 20/4 is 12?
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Benjamin_L said:
How would you bin then? Each four pixels make up a huge new "pixel". Of course this is a division by four..
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I'm not here for a math debate, I'm simply trying to explain how the cameras work...
"The 20MP module also has 4-to-1 pixel binning to reduce noise levels in low-light shots, with the camera essentially combining information from four pixels into one to create a more detailed image."
videotape74 said:
I'm not here for a math debate, I'm simply trying to explain how the cameras work...
"The 20MP module also has 4-to-1 pixel binning to reduce noise levels in low-light shots, with the camera essentially combining information from four pixels into one to create a more detailed image."
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Yes but the resulting pixel count will be of course 5MP hence 4 to 1..
Benjamin_L said:
Yes but the resulting pixel count will be of course 5MP
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Seriously...just shut up.
videotape74 said:
Seriously...just shut up.
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At least I know what I am talking about. What else should 4 to one mean in your opinion?
Benjamin_L said:
Yes but the resulting pixel count will be of course 5MP hence 4 to 1..
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Benjamin_L said:
At least I know what I am talking about. What else should 4 to one mean in your opinion?
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People like you ruin this community. At least I'm contributing something useful to the conversation in trying to explain the cameras and how they are used. And just so you know, I'm a photographer and downsampling isn't the same as your brilliant theory of 20/4. Have a nice day.
videotape74 said:
People like you ruin this community. At least I'm contributing something useful to the conversation in trying to explain the cameras and how they are used. And just so you know, I'm a photographer and downsampling isn't the same as your brilliant theory of 20/4. Have a nice day.
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Stop being personal. A 4 to 1 pixel binning will result in a 5MP image when starting from 20. How this will be upsampled and combined with the 12MP sensor one is not what I am talking about and obviously is not happening anyway right now. So what's your point if your explanation is obviously wrong?