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I will buy a phone and don't know if i should buy the Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 or the Elephone P3000S
They charge me the same for both. So the price it's not relevant in this Question.
The camera is the most important point in my decision, keep that in mind
Wich one should i buy?
Okay so here's the merits from what I can see from both phones.
Elephone P3000S:
Bigger battery
Touch ID sensor
NFC
Gorilla glass
Gesture support
Redmi Note 2:
IR blaster
Bigger community (tech support)
Better camera optics
Made by more reputable company (better quality control)
Faster processor
In my opinion (trying tot to be biased) I think the Note 2 is the better option. A large community is a must when buying Chinese phones where the return policy is absolute bull plop. If something goes wrong with your Note 2 there's likely someone who can help thanks to it's large fanbase. Also the fingerprint sensor on the Elephone looks archaic, it's reminiscent of the fingerprint scanners on the old IBM laptops and if that's the case you'd likely be disappointed with it.
That't my opinion, watch some reviews and make up your own mind. Whatever you end up buying, don't regret it. But enjoy what you've bought as there'll always be a better phone.
Good luck!
banegasn said:
I will buy a phone and don't know if i should buy the Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 or the Elephone P3000S
They charge me the same for both. So the price it's not relevant in this Question.
The camera is the most important point in my decision, keep that in mind
Wich one should i buy?
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Hi,
I bought Elephone P3000s an Redmi note 2, and in my opinion Redmi Note2 is a better choice: I agree with Nippernator.
Furthermore Elephone still has Android 4.4 and there's no development at the moment, even if the Company said the Phone will have Lollipop.
Bye
Elephone is garbage
Not even a fair comparison, the elephone p3000s is really outdated compared to the redmi note 2 and there is a huge difference in regards of CPU (cortex a53 vs a7 cores), camera and screen (720p vs 1080p and better screen quality on the Redmi Note 2). I ditched my Moto G3 for a Redmi Note 2 and it's a whole new experience.
Hey guys, now that Asus has unveiled the specs and pricing of Asus Zenfone 3 variants, what do you think?
Asus ZenFone 3 is the most basic model of the three. It has an aluminum frame body with 2.5D Corning Gorilla Glass on the front and back. On the front is a 5.5-inch 1080p Super IPS+ display with up to 500 nits brightness and 77.3% screen to body ratio.
The Zenfone 3 also has a 16 megapixel camera on the back with ASUS TriTech autofocus that combines second generation laser autofocus, phase detection autofocus and contrast detection autofocus to achieve focus in 0.03 seconds.
The handset runs on Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 and has up to 4GB of RAM. There is also a fingerprint sensor on the back.
Asus ZenFone 3 Deluxe is the flagship model. It has a full metal body with no visible antenna lines and 4.2mm edges. It is built around a 5.7-inch Super AMOLED display with over 100% NTSC color gamut and 79% screen to body ratio.
The phone runs on the new Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 with up to 6GB of RAM. On the back is a 23 megapixel Sony IMX318 camera with f2.0 aperture, 4-axis optical image stabilization, and 4K video with the same TriTech autofocus system as on the ZenFone 3.
The ZenFone 3 Deluxe uses a USB Type-C connector with USB 3.0 and Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 support. The phone also has a fingerprint sensor on the back. Lastly, there is also a single five-magnet speaker and Hi-Res Audio support.
Asus ZenFone 3 Ultra has a massive 6.8-inch 1080p display with 95% NTSC color gamut support, 79% screen to body ratio, and what ASUS calls Tru2Life+ Video technology that uses a high-end 4K UHD TV-grade image processor. The ZenFone 3 also has two five-magnet speakers, Hi-Res Audio support, and also the first phone to have virtual 7.1 channel surround sound with DTS Headphone: X.
On the back is the same 23 megapixel camera as on the ZenFone 3 Deluxe. The phablet is powered by the Qualcomm Snapdragon 652 with up to 4GB of RAM, and a 4600mAh battery with Quick Charge 3.0 support.
The Zenfone 3 Deluxe can also charge other devices with a 1.5A output. Lastly, there is a fingerprint sensor on the front of the device. All packed in a full metal body with no visible antenna lines.
Prices start at $249 for the ZenFone 3,
$499 for the ZenFone 3 Deluxe, and
$479 for the ZenFone 3 Ultra.
Source : gsmarena
definitely keen on the zenfone 3 deluxe
wouldn't mind the bigger screen ultra but the specs are not as good
I'm more interested in Deluxe variant of Asus ZenFone 3
I learned my lesson from ZF2 and will therefore avoid ZF3 (I personally am not happy with the support ZF2 received).
And no, I don't want to argue about it, I am just stating my personal subjective opinion for the record.
Thankfully the 2nd sim slot is also the sd card slot so I won't be tempted to change. Need more than 64gb and also need 2 sims.
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They all seem good. The regular zenfone 3 is a lot of phone for $249. Yeah, not a blazing fast CPU, but most people use a tiny fraction of their phones processing power most of the time, and the 14nm process should be very energy efficient. Otherwise it is pretty sweet and well specced for the price. The deluxe is a beast. Expensive for ASUS, but for the level of hardware base $499 price is good. The Ultra is certainly niche. Not as powerful in terms of soc, but still no slouch and the audio and video capabilities make it pretty enticing. I voted deluxe, but if I had the money and wasn't pissed off at ASUS for the upgrade farce of the Zf2, would be a toss up between the deluxe and ultra. I'd need to try them in person in the shop before deciding.
Wait so no quick charge on base model?
Don't get me wrong I love my Zenfone 2, even if only after unlocking and flashing CM, but really just a 1080p screen for base and deluxe and a 625 processor on the base, and still just a 3,00maH battery. I think I'd be passing on this phone in favor on the next nexus phones.
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Don't get me wrong I love my Zenfone 2, even if only after unlocking and flashing CM, but really just a 1080p screen for base and deluxe and a 625 processor on the base, and still just a 3,00maH battery. I think I'd be passing on this phone in favor on the next nexus phones.
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I have the same sentiments. Seems like the only major improvement is on the camera. I don't know why glass is considered to be such a major upgrade to design as well, repairability is gonna take a hit. The 625 isn't even gonna compete with any other cheaper mid range offerings having SD 650(Redmi note 3 pro), SD 801 (Oneplus x) and even our very own intel atom z35XX line. The deluxe on the other hand is flagship material but is gonna have a hard time considering cheaper equally or better specs alternatives like ZTE Axon 7 at $450 and the soon to be released Oneplus 3.
iancjc said:
Thankfully the 2nd sim slot is also the sd card slot so I won't be tempted to change. Need more than 64gb and also need 2 sims.
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THIS.. Ohh why would Asus change such a basic yet beautiful option.. Why why why.. What a let down..
Can't wait for Zenfone 3 Deluxe....
I just hope that the battery is good enough.
just hoping that zenfone 3 will have better battery life since its not Intel and having a better display.
And please when it comes out in my country it will rougly same price as zenfone 2 when it launch :angel:
The camera should be also really great...i hope better than Samsung / LG..
I had high expectations of their next ZenFone, but so far I'm disappointed. Not having a separate slot for the MicroSD is a let down for me. I need two working SIM slots AND a MicroSD at the same time. A "basic" version with 128GB would probably make me consider it and not need an SD. The glass body of the basic ZF3 seems impractical and I've never been a fan of glass for a phone's back. (An I the only one who prefers plastic -good plastic- over glass or metal?) The deluxe will cost more than I'm willing to pay for a phone, and will probably be too big (have not seen yet dimensions listed on any site). And the "Ultra" is way too big for me. The only thing I'm not clear is how the GPU on any I'd these versions compares to the G6430 in the ZF2.
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I am a little disappointed that Asus changed the design so much as I love the look of my ZF2. I would prefer the Deluxe model but I doubt I will have the money for it. The base ZF3 would work for me but I am looking at all of my options for my next upgrade. I have a spreadsheet that currently has 15 different prospects laid out. The ZF3 is in the mix but it is not the only one in the running.
Unlike others I am more than happy with my ZF2 from the time of purchase at release through today. I picked up a ZE551KL (ZF2 Laser) from Swappa and am astounded at just how much better my original ZF2 is versus the Laser. While the ZF3 has a Snapdragon 625 vs the ZF2 Laser's Snapdragon 615 I am worried that the ZF3 would be slower than my ZF2.
The deluxe seems nice but in my opinion most people in the market for an unlocked phone aren't looking to spend $500+ for a phone, I know that's out of my budget especially with the lack of support on its previous flagship.
I may buy one but hope that the deluxe doesnt contain a speaker as cheap as the zenfone 2 which i replaced twice. Hopefully its a good speaker.
Any one know the antutu skor for deluxe ???
I read that the 6gb axon 7 is roughly $650usd but the 4gb is listed at 450usd
I'm guessing asus will use similar price point
Although I keep reading that the version being released for 499usd is 6gb/64gb. So fingers crossed that there is 4gb/64gb version a little cheaper and a 6gb/128gb a little more. It will kill me if that price announced in the conference was for 4gb version! Although they were pressing the point of it having 6g ram the whole time before flashing the 499 price tag on the screen.
I don't know asus are confusing!
Anyone want to take a guess?
Leftrand said:
Any one know the antutu skor for deluxe ???
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They announced it at the launch https://youtu.be/5hnZ02Zoobg
Hi,
I am pretty new to the Xiaomi- and especially to the Mediathek-world. This is why I have this noob question :silly:
Is the Redmi Pro currently the top smartphone by Xiaomi, at least hardware-wise?
Of course, besides Mi5/S, which run the SD 820/821...
Or is e.g. the Note 4 the stronger device, or any other? As far as I know, the Redmi-line is more a budget-thing, right?
Thx for any info on this! :highfive:
Best
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Redmi Pro is known as the Xiaomi Redmi's flagship and that means It is the strongest of the Redmi's even that it is Mediatek powered . mediatek disadvantage is that they does not release sources (which is needed for compiling custom roms and kernels) and the Snapdragon release its sources thats because snapdragon devices are the most wanted and that means bigger price but weaker phone. redmi pro's helio x20 or x25 is compared to snapdragon 810 and and its very close to sd 820. Redmi note 4 has the same chip (x20) but isnt better than redmi pro.Redmi note 4 PRO has a sd652 and that means it has more development for that device.
If you want a phone with a lot development buy redmi note 4 PRO --- if you want a stronger phone buy REDMI PRO.
PS: the best xiaomi for now is MI MIX (the bezelles device
Thank you very much! My times of ROM-hopping are over...my current S7 is not even rooted...so I guess the Redmi Pro will be my first try on the chinese devices (Huawei P9 would be interesting, too, but I am searching for a bigger phone)
I have checked the Mix, it looks gorgeous and I would love to get my hands on this, but the price is far from what I invest in smartphones normally...
So, next step is checking the int. Xiaomi-ROM for the Pro, how to install and what to expect...
The best xiaomi device now is mi5, mi mix, mi note 2.
S7 has much better camera. Redmi Pro is not considered as flagman.
Xiaomi has better models like Mi5.
Even so I would prefare Redmi Pro because of OLED display.
But now Im having trouble with flashing ROM as it doesn't has official global vertion. So you need to apply for unlock bootloader and wait. Some people wait more than 10 days.
It's a good phone but with some really annoying hang ups. ( performance in general is good to very good with occasional lag due to bad core switching, screen is nice although a tad dim for outdoor use, build quality is great)
First of all the camera is a complete waste of time and this appears to be a software issue as the sensor it's self is capable of taking decent photographs. But it's honestly one of the worst smart phone cameras I've used and I've used a lot.
If you've ever used a blackberry in 2010-2011 that's the sort of quality so expect only at higher resolutions.
Second of all Xiaomi appears to have abandoned further development for the device ( no news on 7.0)
Also its missing wireless n support which is just weird, doesn't bother me oh so much as I rarely transfer files over WiFi but still an odd omission.
vinterneti said:
S7 has much better camera. Redmi Pro is not considered as flagman.
Xiaomi has better models like Mi5.
Even so I would prefare Redmi Pro because of OLED display.
But now Im having trouble with flashing ROM as it doesn't has official global vertion. So you need to apply for unlock bootloader and wait. Some people wait more than 10 days.
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He said the flagship for the xiaomi redmi series not xiaomi mi series
Title says it all. Tell me about each device (it's pros and cons) and which should i buy. Price is not a issue (between this phones i mean.). Thank you :fingers-crossed:
Please don't start a war between these 2 phones as i want real reasons.
Bump. I really need some suggestions
You can search on YouTube, there is many video about comparison between ZFM Pro M1 and Redmi Note 5 Pro.
Get a max pro m1. Period.
gusbalaa said:
You can search on YouTube, there is many video about comparison between ZFM Pro M1 and Redmi Note 5 Pro.
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Many videos i found were in hindi .
z1_nile said:
Get a max pro m1. Period.
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Pros and cons? Can you tell.me why is it better than note 5 pro?
On note 5 pro You can't play pubg on HD and with Hugh fps, the game even stutters when the graphics are on balanced and on medium frame rate.
On m1 the HD graphics and high frame rate works good.
z1_nile said:
On note 5 pro You can't play pubg on HD and with Hugh fps, the game even stutters when the graphics are on balanced and on medium frame rate.
On m1 the HD graphics and high frame rate works good.
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I don't want to buy a phone for gaming. Besides both of the phones have the same chipset yet you claim that max pro beats note 5 pro at framerates. I know it is from the software but hey.
The Restless Soul said:
Title says it all. Tell me about each device (it's pros and cons) and which should i buy. Price is not a issue (between this phones i mean.). Thank you :fingers-crossed:
Please don't start a war between these 2 phones as i want real reasons.
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I have zmpm1 6gb variant and i also use rn5 pro.
Camera of rn5 pro is better than zmpm1 , sharpness saturation levels are far better and no fading when you zooming the pic plus you can record slow motion video in rn5 pro(slomo of rn5 pro is just amazing) .
MIUI is far better than the stock ui of zmpm1, because in zmpm1 there is no essential customization. You may feel bored after using zmpm1 for a while.
Obviously you can play pubg in hd graphics on zmpm1 but there is serious network issue, if you play online games on mobile data then you realize ping is so high that you can't play the game properly.
Only pro of zmpm1 are battery and sound quality both are amazing.
In rn5 pro you can't use 2 sim cad and micro sd at the same time but in zmpm1 you get 3 slots.
Zmpm1 receives many updates but Every update brings new problems.....
So in my opinion you must go with RN5 PRO
Rommaster94 said:
I have zmpm1 6gb variant and i also use rn5 pro.
Camera of rn5 pro is better than zmpm1 , sharpness saturation levels are far better and no fading when you zooming the pic plus you can record slow motion video in rn5 pro(slomo of rn5 pro is just amazing) .
MIUI is far better than the stock ui of zmpm1, because in zmpm1 there is no essential customization. You may feel bored after using zmpm1 for a while.
Obviously you can play pubg in hd graphics on zmpm1 but there is serious network issue, if you play online games on mobile data then you realize ping is so high that you can't play the game properly.
Only pro of zmpm1 are battery and sound quality both are amazing.
In rn5 pro you can't use 2 sim cad and micro sd at the same time but in zmpm1 you get 3 slots.
Zmpm1 receives many updates but Every update brings new problems.....
So in my opinion you must go with RN5 PRO
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Interesting arguments. You think the phone will hold me more than 2 years (terms of updates)
Whyred has miui, zui, zenui, aosp, LOS, OOS by port or by sgsi, but ZMPM1 has in built treble support but very slow development. Whyred is for flashaholics.
Buy which ever you like
I personally bought max pro m1 6gb variant and don't have any issues. I play a lot of pubg and the ping is always under 100 ms. No network issue for me.
And I didn't face any bug or problem in software
I compared the cameras side by side and the amount of details my phone captures with gcam is insane while note 5 pro just makes everything more dark colored. + I don't use cameras so much so it don't matter to me.
Don't know about software updates on note 5 pro but Asus is getting up to android Q. +miui devices heat a lot.
It's your personal choice I preferred Asus over xiaomi. Buy whatever you want.
I have both Asus max pro m1 4Gb and Redmi note 5 pro
Trust me... Get asus....
Battery---I get really low sot on Note 5 pro whereas I get 14+ hrs SOT on asus max pro m1..
Performance -- asus wins
Camera-- I feel camera quality of asus is better because redmi note 5 pro Overexposes all the pics...looks unnatural....
Updates --- Pie is around the corner and We will get Android Q also...
UI-- If you want a slow cluttered UI which makes simple tasks difficult...get RN5P
Asus stock rom is the best...
Face unlock is faster on RN5P whereas FP sensor seems to be same...
One major plus point for Redmi note 5 pro
You can use it as a Heatpad if you have backache because it gets burning hot while charging..lol
Why having this discussion... Go for Redmi note 6 pro or wait for azmp m2
z1_nile said:
Buy which ever you like
I personally bought max pro m1 6gb variant and don't have any issues. I play a lot of pubg and the ping is always under 100 ms. No network issue for me.
And I didn't face any bug or problem in software
I compared the cameras side by side and the amount of details my phone captures with gcam is insane while note 5 pro just makes everything more dark colored. + I don't use cameras so much so it don't matter to me.
Don't know about software updates on note 5 pro but Asus is getting up to android Q. +miui devices heat a lot.
It's your personal choice I preferred Asus over xiaomi. Buy whatever you want.
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How do you play pubg, mobile data or wifi?
Which rom you used?
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How do you play pubg, mobile data or wifi?
Which rom you used?
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Stock, non rooted. With airtel 4g. Mobile data.
I never had heating issue with any mi phone (redmi note 3, 4x,5pro, max2) .
Android Q ? First Asus try to give Pie.
night_mare said:
Why having this discussion... Go for Redmi note 6 pro or wait for azmp m2
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Note 6 pro looks good but after i tested it in the store with my friend's Note 5 pro, i realised that Note 6 pro is just Note 5 pro with a notch.
pranavkpr said:
I have both Asus max pro m1 4Gb and Redmi note 5 pro
Trust me... Get asus....
Battery---I get really low sot on Note 5 pro whereas I get 14+ hrs SOT on asus max pro m1..
Performance -- asus wins
Camera-- I feel camera quality of asus is better because redmi note 5 pro Overexposes all the pics...looks unnatural....
Updates --- Pie is around the corner and We will get Android Q also...
UI-- If you want a slow cluttered UI which makes simple tasks difficult...get RN5P
Asus stock rom is the best...
Face unlock is faster on RN5P whereas FP sensor seems to be same...
One major plus point for Redmi note 5 pro
You can use it as a Heatpad if you have backache because it gets burning hot while charging..lol
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I looked in the forums and i realised that Max pro m1 is getting a lot of issues with the new update : Battery drain. Not my cup of tea.
I noticed you gave more cons on the note 5 pro than on Max pro m1, giving me the impression that you never ever tested a note 5 pro.
My friend who owns a note 5 pro doesn't have any of the issues given above. I agree that the software lags (it sometimes lags on 3gb ram version, 0 lag on 4gb ram).
I am sorry but your arguments are invalid here, but thanks for the opinion, i guess..
Also Note 5 pro has quite a full development range so the laggy software can be easily fixed with a custom rom.
z1_nile said:
Buy which ever you like
I personally bought max pro m1 6gb variant and don't have any issues. I play a lot of pubg and the ping is always under 100 ms. No network issue for me.
And I didn't face any bug or problem in software
I compared the cameras side by side and the amount of details my phone captures with gcam is insane while note 5 pro just makes everything more dark colored. + I don't use cameras so much so it don't matter to me.
Don't know about software updates on note 5 pro but Asus is getting up to android Q. +miui devices heat a lot.
It's your personal choice I preferred Asus over xiaomi. Buy whatever you want.
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All phones that don't have any kind of thermal cooling can heat. Adding thermal paste that is a higher grade (arctic mx-4) will solve any heat issues in the device, at the cost of more external cooling.
Both asus and redmi use the metal back and frame as a external heatsink. If you play without a case then it will ofc heat up.
Hello...I'm looking for cheap phone with 3 GB ram. Currently confused between which of these two should I buy? Looking for best phone for media consumption, WhatsApp and calls. Nothing heavy like gaming etc.
I see that battery on m1 is pretty solid and os is close to stock Android but don't know much about service after warranty expires, in case if something goes wrong. This phone doesn't show adds like redmi right? Definitely don't need that.
Plus how long m1 custom ROM support will be available from devs. Thanks in advance.
The 3GB variant has terrible cameras. If you are not those who never shoot a photo, you should choose between 6GB Pro M1, 3GB Pro M2, or Redmi 6 Pro.
If u want better cameras then go for note 6 pro, if u don't use camera much then go for zenfone max pro m1 it's terribly priced now, value for money