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Luckiest Android User Ever

So I was helping a customer today (I'm a Tmo Employee) with their rate plans and then started talking to him about some phones. Well he pulls out a Nexus One out of one of the stock N1 pouches and told me he FOUND this (who the hell finds free stuff like this?!) and wanted to check if it was a Tmo or ATT version because his internet wasn't working. I verified it was a Tmo version and it wasn't working for him because he had the Blackberry internet on his plan. When I asked if he wanted to change it he was like oh no I like my Blackberry. Then here is how the next part went.
Guy: Do you know anybody that would want to buy this?
Me: As a matter of fact, I'll be glad to take it.
Guy: How about $200?
Me: How about I go to the ATM next door RIGHT NOW!
So now I'm the owner of another N1 so this one goes to my GF. Buuuuuut the best part is, it isn't just the normal one. This one has the picture of the Android waving a flag on the back with no HTC branding. Hmmmmmmm...
Just had to share this. Was too excited about it not to! lol

Just bought your self a brand new stolen ('found' is an alternative word for stolen) N1 Concrats! It's the best device with Android!

so let me translate for you.
This guy steals an N1 and brings it in to your store and asks if you'll pay him $200 for it and you say yes.
Got it...

You sound like a goddamned thief to me.
Disgusting.

could easily track down the original owner in minutes...
but my question is, why is there an android flag and no htc branding? Is it a special phone?

Alclub said:
could easily track down the original owner in minutes...
but my question is, why is there an android flag and no htc branding? Is it a special phone?
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...Search and you shall receive...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680179&highlight=android+flag

Alclub said:
could easily track down the original owner in minutes...
but my question is, why is there an android flag and no htc branding? Is it a special phone?
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I'm thinking it could be a Beta phone or something? Looks like one of the ones that Google employees were given and were not supposed to "sell" BUT I have heard of some that have been "lost" from employees and were bought from people. But the phone had no SIM card and looked wiped when I got it. Was at the stock 2.1 home screen.
The guy didn't "look" like he stole it. Nice guy, wife, 2 young kids. I'm pretty sure the guy found it somewhere.

Grats on buying stolen goods. Not the smartest thing to brag about, either.

Or possibly you've just met a Google worker that was quietly getting rid of his phone

i would have bought it too shiiiiit lol

The guy said the other guy found it. How the hell are you guys jumping to the conclusion that it's stolen?
The word "found" is similar to the word "stolen"?
So when my car stereo was missing out of my car one day, someone just found it and it actually wasn't stolen? Maybe this, I found 20 bucks on the street once but I must've stolen it right?
BTW, congrats on getting a awesome deal. Ignore the haters and you and your girlfriend enjoy the phone.

Damn you are really LUCKY android user. 200$ it's nothing for that phone

'The word "found" is similar to the word "stolen"?'
Maybe i said it wrong but i meant in this sentence it's an other word for found... And i'm not a hater just know how people are, they don't come in and say "i just stole the phone want to buy for 200 bucks?" That would be stupid! it's pretty clear it's stolen but i wouldn't care about it I'm Happy for the new owner and wished one day someone comes to me for a cheap good as new phone for 1/3 of the origional price (i got my hero for 150 bucks @ releaseday, found by someone i know )

Grats on capitalising on someone elses misfortune.
I'd gladly buy your phone if it was found/stolen rather than try and track you down. (/not. it's very easy to track down the owner of a lost phone for which i have done multiple times).
Did you keep the guys contacts & messages on their or just go and delete them? so as not to spark your conscience. How about when you were deleting the owners google login details to put your own in its place? did that make you feel all light and giddy too?

You work for T-Mobile, someone brings in a T-Mobile version of the N1 and you buy it rather than trying to find the owner on your internal system?
Morally bankrupt
SC

If I worked in your store and someone brought in a "found" phone, then (a) it wouldn't have left the store again, and (b) I would NEVER, EVER, have offered to buy it. Totally reprehensible.
If you find something it doesn't automatically become yours. You're no better than a common thief. In fact, you're worse, because you knowingly paid money for it.
I'd expect the manager to back me up on (a) and help track the original owner down. I can assure you that if you worked for me and I found out about this, you'd be out of the door so quick you'd wonder what happened.

bumskins said:
Grats on capitalising on someone elses misfortune.
I'd gladly buy your phone if it was found/stolen rather than try and track you down. (/not. it's very easy to track down the owner of a lost phone for which i have done multiple times).
Did you keep the guys contacts & messages on their or just go and delete them? so as not to spark your conscience. How about when you were deleting the owners google login details to put your own in its place? did that make you feel all light and giddy too?
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There was no SIM card in the phone. No contacts. Nothing at all. To me it looked like it was wiped which I'm sure the dude didn't do cause he had no clue how to use this phone or his phone which I might add.

ScaredyCat said:
You work for T-Mobile, someone brings in a T-Mobile version of the N1 and you buy it rather than trying to find the owner on your internal system?
Morally bankrupt
SC
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No way to track down people from IMEI's :-/

I'll give OP the benefit of the doubt based on his story of how the events went down.
People lose phones all the time... that's why applications like WaveSecure exist. Without having any such application on the phone, it gets to be rather difficult to find the owner - especially if all data has been wiped from the device. Without a SIM card, there's not really anything to tie the device to its previous owner.
It is kinda sketch, but I don't think the OP is in the wrong here.

I give it a week before its IMEI blocked

[Q] Probably stolen A500

I have in my possession a Acer A500 that a "friend" asked me to look at for them. The thing is, I am almost certain he stole it... He has no job and has been caught red handed several times in the past with iphones, ipods, cell phones, etc that he stole.
I would like to find out who the original owner is of the tablet so I can give them an anonymous tip... The problem is, the security pattern is set on the device. I know how to do a hard reset, but I don't want to wipe any of the information that may be on the device....
Any ideas?

Yeah, give to to police.
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Or persuade your friend to give it to police. You don't want to get into such a mess.

ctiger said:
Or persuade your friend to give it to police. You don't want to get into such a mess.
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this is obviously not your FRIEND....
you obviously seem like a decent person by what you are wanting to do.
call the police and turn your friend in.. period. end of story.
if the person, the original owner, registered the unit you should be able to call acer and give them the s/n and your contact info and ask them to call the owner and give that person your info and have them call you so you can work out a time to meet up and you can give this person their item back.
i personally would try Acer first.
the police wont do anything but take the tablet, sit it in a evidence collection box, and in 6 months it will get auctioned off and the owner will never ever get it back.

Turn it in to police. Give them the Acer support phone number.they might be able to use the SN number to get thenright owner.if it were registered.
I CAN NOT STAND A THIEF
Good luck..

sell it to me with haft price
just kidding, actually, not sure this is stolen by your friend, so just give it back to him, and get out of this mess.

Sure sounds like a moral dilema. Police, as told by others here, probably wont be very useful. Your "friend" doesnt seem like he will do the right thing. All in all, if you dont try to figure out the owner, chances are it will never get back to him/her.
Maybe some of the other members here can confirm or not. Would booting into safe mode bypass the security pattern as it has done on several android phones?

there is a reason that I list the owners information on the lock screen lol.
Isnt there a way to adj some of the lock outs from booting into recovery?

You should either ask him for the unlock pattern (if it's not stolen, he should know it - you can tell him you want to check out the tablet, but really see the owner info) or just give it back to him and blacklist his phone number to never hear from him again. As you should know "I'm just holding it for my friend" is not much of an alibi for the police in the odd chance they manage to trace him.
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If I could be 100% sure that it was stolen, I would just give it to the police, but there is always the small possibility it is his. And you are right, he is not my "friend", but as the saying goes, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
I've actually been trying to catch him stealing from me for a while, but I don't think he would ever take the bait because I would rain havoc down upon him (I have a bit of a temper).
I looked all over the tab for the serial number and it doesn't seem to be anyplace on the device itself... (PS. I also have a A500)

you can see the serial number on the back of microSD card cover.

Call Acer support and if the original owner had registered the serial then convince Acer support that you would like them to email the original owner, possibly forwarding your email or some way to contact you.

i would say find a cool cop and have him/her use their power as a law enforcer to help you cordnate with Acer to contact the owner. They might even direct you to an officer that's on pawn duty, their main focus is running serial numbers for reported stolen items in pawn shops and reterning them to their owners.

if it was stolen, and reported stolen the police will have the serial number. They would ask for it, which is on the box itself, when the report was filed. That is if it was reported stolen and if the original owner still had the box. By holding on to it you yourself are committing a crime, receiving stolen goods. I would either give it back to the douche or the police. If you go the police route they are going to want to know the guys name you got it from and you will be involved in the whatever actions follow. Even if you manage to get it back to the original owner most likely they will inform the police you had their stolen tablet and want to know how/who you got it from.

I haven't registered my tablet yet! Seeing this I'm registering right now!

Maybe its rooted? Worth a try to do an adb connection to it. Or at least connect to PC and see the contents of the I eternal sdcard? Maybe there's some contact info or a picture you can post up locally to see if anyone is recognized?
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Wash your hands of it... Give it back to your douchey friend and forget you saw it...
Trying to do the right thing only gets you screwed by being involved... You are not innocent until proven guilty... That's why you get put in cuffs till it all gets sorted out...
So once again... Wash your hands...
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What does he want you to look at for him?
If it is his he will have the unlock code. If he says he can't remember then it probably is not his.
I run into this problem every now and then. I work on friends and friends of friends laptops and computers as a hobby. If I get any that has apassword that needs booted up and they tell me they forgot it. It goes right back to them.
I was in a situation one time where I was curious to know so I did bypass and booted up in windows. Sure enough it was someone elses laptop. I just gave it back and said there was nothing I could do.
So know I don't even mess with them. No password. No fix.

boredbutter said:
Wash your hands of it... Give it back to your douchey friend and forget you saw it...
Trying to do the right thing only gets you screwed by being involved... You are not innocent until proven guilty... That's why you get put in cuffs till it all gets sorted out...
So once again... Wash your hands...
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This
If you suspect that you're in possession of a stolen item, report it to the police as found with no knowledge of it being stolen, would likely not be a big deal. Being in possession of a stolen item and reporting it to the police while knowing the suspect can and would likely be a hairy situation. Because if he really isn't much of a friend or prepared to throw you under the bus in retaliation....it's your word against his and you are the last one to have the item.
While I do think it's best that you notify the authorities,I suggest you give it back first. But on the other hand, you would likely be better off telling the authorities that he left the item with out you having any knowledge of it and knowing his character you suspect it's stolen. If you tell them you willingly accepted to hold on to the item......think of what you are admitting.

mburke178 said:
By holding on to it you yourself are committing a crime, receiving stolen goods.
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I'm almost certain that this is only the case if you *knowingly* receive stolen goods. And all I have is a suspicion, I could be wrong...
The tablet has been just sitting on my desk since I last posted, I almost forgot it was even there...
I will probably just end up giving it back to the dude who gave it to me, and tell him there was nothing I could do with it. He is completely ignorant when it comes to anything technology related. If I had any proof whatsoever that it was stolen, I would do something about it, unfortunately that is not the case.
You cannot just go around accusing people of theft without proof, I was hoping to find some on the tablet itself, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen.
I'll just have to catch him doing something else at another time (might be time to install a hidden cam focused on where I leave my wallet when I am home)...
Don't worry, his time will come...

Should I return the phone ? hell yeah you should

Hello everyone.
Today I found a brand new SGS2 on a supermarket and I took it
So I was wondering if they can track me down by GPS or something like that, if they lock the phone what's the worst that can happen ?
By the way before you judge me I didn't steal anything, like I said I found it.

If I were you I would see a lawyer and discuss this. In Germany you wouldn't have stolen it but would've been guilty of "Fundunterschlagung" which is also a crime and can and will be punished.
Tracking a phone is not that hard, there's the IMEI for example. In the very moment you use a sim card your carrier will know the IMEI of your device. So if the owner of the device reports this the police definitely can track down this very phone.
In addition you should never forget that most supermarkets have cameras.
I guess I will save you and me a discussion about the moral implications of such a behaviour.

Yeah, you're right.
I will give it tomorrow to my carrier maybe they will find in which name it is registered and give it back to the owner.
Thanks.

The answer is yes. This was not abandoned property. imho, You have a moral obligation and perhaps a legal obligation to return the phone.
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You should have given it to the supermarket customer service or manager or even hand it into a police station, im assuming it wasn't on when you found it (otherwise the owner would no doubt try and call the phone to see if anyone had it)

This thread makes me sad...if i lost my phone id cry and hope that the person that found it would have the decency to answer my frantic calls or hand it in to have it returned to me. Do the decent thing.
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I happen to be an emplyee at the supermarket and since I never used a SGS2 I thought I would have some fun with it.
But i'll return it for sure, it is even unlocked for all the carriers gosh!
Anyways thanks for the advice guys & the thread tags also. lololol

Deloxic said:
Anyways thanks for the advice guys & the thread tags also. lololol
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You're welcome .

Deloxic said:
I happen to be an emplyee at the supermarket and since I never used a SGS2 I thought I would have some fun with it.
But i'll return it for sure, it is even unlocked for all the carriers gosh!
Anyways thanks for the advice guys & the thread tags also. lololol
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Good to hear you do the decent thing,i will sleep soundly with the knowledge that an innocent galaxy s2 owner will be reunited with their baby!
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I reckon he's gonna keep it!

Deloxic said:
Today I found a brand new SGS2 on a supermarket and I took it
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Deloxic said:
I happen to be an emplyee at the supermarket
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Seriously? If they find out you did that then you may well lose your job. As an employee your actions are not seen in the same light as a customer.
Look at the call log and call someone who's on there frequently. Tell them you have the phone and arrange to get it back to the owner. You'll make someone very happy and you'll save yourself a potentially large amount of trouble

Sad franekz
Deloxic said:
Hello everyone.
Today I found a brand new SGS2 on a supermarket and I took it
So I was wondering if they can track me down by GPS or something like that, if they lock the phone what's the worst that can happen ?
By the way before you judge me I didn't steal anything, like I said I found it.
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Hi guys.
It always makes me feeling sad when I read or hear such questions. Unfortunately we live in society where gadgets are more important than morality and conscience.
People - dont be so selfish.
Sorry for - off topic
Peter
hugeone.co.uk

Oh God!!What is happening to this world?You stole something and asking others in a public forum,how you can cover it up?
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JUSTICEFORALL said:
Oh God!!What is happening to this world?You stole something and asking others in a public forum,how you can cover it up?
Sent from my galaxy s2 with tapatalk pro.
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such a noob!
Google the difference between stealing and finding!
At least he is being decent enough to give it back!
Deloxic i know you have the best phone in hand right now and you dont feel like giving it back , but trust me the happiness and joy you'll get after seeing the owners face when he gets his 650$ phone is worthed more than this phone.
Return it and you'll feel so very good

You'll feel much better when you do the right thing rather than having the best phone in the world and thinking a person out there worked with their blood and sweat to buy that phone is missing his/her precious baby.. Conscience can really bother ya sometimes, wait, all the time.. I'm glad people today still do the right thing
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So the s2 found the dad...? Dad might be checking the app where is my droid....
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Keep it i say..Hug it, take it to bed with you and then once you are finished throw it out of the window...
Of course return it. Not only you feel good when you see the owner's face thanking you and being re united with their handset but also you might get a little reward...But that is not the point you should of just gave it to your supervisor as that would of been the decent thing to do...
Imagine if the supervisor said "ok i will return it" and kept it for himself
Either way glad you are doing the right thing

CWM 5 issue
Someone has problems with custom rom and CWM 5?

Be a nice guy and just try to track down the owner. Just check which Google account the phone syncs with and fire up an email.
If you've switched your own SIM into the phone, it's very likely the phone has sent a text message to a number the owner set up the moment you fired it back up. It's also fairly easy to track the phone via GPS, check call logs and wipe the phone remotely. The service provider can also track IMEI numbers on phones registered on their network.
More importantly, make the real owners day and let the poor guy have his precious phone back!

Netskyliner said:
Someone has problems with custom rom and CWM 5?
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seriously?

Is there truly a way to get past the FRP security?

For starters, I've got the Tmobile version (not sure if that makes a difference, but I figured I should say it)...
I'm sure I tried everything I could except the method that involves the OTG cable. Trying to root it or apply twrp recovery only fails each and every time through odin.
I tried Smartswitch. I tried Kies... Kies actually took a really long time and I thought it was going to work, but it didn't.
I even tried to do some wifi/server things with another phone by using thethering (is what I believe it was)...still no luck.
The phone belonged to a sister of mine, but she couldn't remember the password she used to log in. She passed the phone on to my dad. He was never able to get in and now I've got it.
I thought rooting it would fix the problem, but that's because I knew about the chokehold security on it... the FRP business.
Can someone please help me? My sister says she's working on it (which probably means she isn't or it's on the back burner). I would really like to use the camera on the S5.
Is there another direction I can go in to get into this phone? It's driving me a little nuts at this point.

good luck getting around it without paying an unlocking company. if its actually your sisters phone, you might want to poke the bear, otherwise youre gonna be spending $?? to get it unlocked. I say ?? after the $ because of the variability of the price from site to site. I know that idoneapps.com does it for $35, and i trust their work completely, but ive also seen people talking about other sites advertising that theyll do it for less from companies out of zimbabwe. take the location of the company for what its worth. Anyways, poke the bear aka, your sister (no insult intended, just a euphemism)

Thanks -- offense taken. I hope she's able to recover the password. I was almost certain I'd get a reply like this. It's annoying, but here I go-a-pokin. Thanks.

geekery15 said:
Thanks -- offense taken. I hope she's able to recover the password. I was almost certain I'd get a reply like this. It's annoying, but here I go-a-pokin. Thanks.
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yeah, its the pits, but either spend some money for a third party workaround, or get your sister in contact with samsung

youdoofus said:
good luck getting around it without paying an unlocking company. if its actually your sisters phone, you might want to poke the bear, otherwise youre gonna be spending $?? to get it unlocked. I say ?? after the $ because of the variability of the price from site to site. I know that idoneapps.com does it for $35, and i trust their work completely, but ive also seen people talking about other sites advertising that theyll do it for less from companies out of zimbabwe. take the location of the company for what its worth. Anyways, poke the bear aka, your sister (no insult intended, just a euphemism)
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youdoofus said:
yeah, its the pits, but either spend some money for a third party workaround, or get your sister in contact with samsung
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Come to find out that my sister had dropped the phone and couldn't turn it back on. She sent it to our dad... and he wiped the phone without thinking to turn off the security. He didn't know though... he came from an S4 and I don't think they had it on there. I've got a note 3 (my first real smartphone) so I had no clue this would happen.
He keeps telling me it's google and not Samsung. Apparently a year or so ago when he asked her for the password, she said she emailed google and they were going to send her the password in two weeks... I asked why two weeks and he couldn't give me an answer.
This truly is the pits. I'm literally still waiting for a call from either of them at this point.

FRP bypass help

Hello recently I received S8 SM-G950F.
It is updated to latest 9.0 One UI
Is there a way I can bypass or remove the FRP?
OEM locked, USB debugging is off also.
I'd be glad if someone could help me
Cheers

kenzyyy said:
Hello recently I received S8 SM-G950F.
It is updated to latest 9.0 One UI
Is there a way I can bypass or remove the FRP?
OEM locked, USB debugging is off also.
I'd be glad if someone could help me
Cheers
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Generally speaking to turn off FRP delete/remove all accounts from your phone if you can still get into system. IE: Google/Samsung accounts.

spawnlives said:
Generally speaking to turn off FRP delete/remove all accounts from your phone if you can still get into system. IE: Google/Samsung accounts.
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No I can't access it.
I'm stuck on setup screen..
I've found a solution (maybe) I have to flash combination firmware U4

kenzyyy said:
No I can't access it.
I'm stuck on setup screen..
I've found a solution (maybe) I have to flash combination firmware U4
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Should work but due to XDA rules not supposed to really support frp bypassing although there are plenty of how to's but maybe this thread might provide some insight.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/help/g960fxxs2brk3-combination-file-t3929228

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Should work but due to XDA rules not supposed to really support frp bypassing although there are plenty of how to's but maybe this thread might provide some insight.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/help/g960fxxs2brk3-combination-file-t3929228
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My case is the same. I've got the phone from close relative and he also doesn't know Google password.
It's a waste to throw this phone away really.
Thank you for replying me, have a nice day/night

Just google it my bro. Its not hard.

spawnlives said:
Should work but due to XDA rules not supposed to really support frp bypassing although there are plenty of how to's but maybe this thread might provide some insight.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/help/g960fxxs2brk3-combination-file-t3929228
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kenzyyy said:
My case is the same. I've got the phone from close relative and he also doesn't know Google password.
It's a waste to throw this phone away really.
Thank you for replying me, have a nice day/night
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LOL. Had the link said that Zeus came down from the heavens and gifted it upon Kenzyyy, while jumping on 1 leg and singing the hokey pokey.... Kenzyyy would have had the same exact case.
I don't know why everyone doesn't just say that they stole it/bought a stolen phone/were given the stolen phone from a friend that realized it was useless after they took it. It's amazing how 100% of the people on XDA asking for this, have this exact same scenario. Now, onto googling on how to crack 7 FRP locked phones for a friend
(He was gifted them, as he works in a cell phone repair shop & they give a discount on a brand new phone to those people...literally the same one anyone else could have negotiated to w/o an FRP phone)
Kidding...Kidding...But it was just to illustrate how preposterous these unoriginal fake stories always are. At least be a little creative, like you would be when scamming the MSL code from a Sprint rep. By claiming that you're a developer and need it to test your apps functionality.
[He was only gifted 6 phones, and they all had cracked glass and damaged OLED's. And those people actually paid $5-$10 more than the non-FRP phone trade in people that negotiated well. Had they not offered the trade-in, the people wouldn't have realized it was just a normal discount]

sleepysys said:
LOL. Had the link said that Zeus came down from the heavens and gifted it upon Kenzyyy, while jumping on 1 leg and singing the hokey pokey.... Kenzyyy would have had the same exact case.
I don't know why everyone doesn't just say that they stole it/bought a stolen phone/were given the stolen phone from a friend that realized it was useless after they took it. It's amazing how 100% of the people on XDA asking for this, have this exact same scenario. Now, onto googling on how to crack 7 FRP locked phones for a friend
(He was gifted them, as he works in a cell phone repair shop & they give a discount on a brand new phone to those people...literally the same one anyone else could have negotiated to w/o an FRP phone)
Kidding...Kidding...But it was just to illustrate how preposterous these unoriginal fake stories always are. At least be a little creative, like you would be when scamming the MSL code from a Sprint rep. By claiming that you're a developer and need it to test your apps functionality.
[He was only gifted 6 phones, and they all had cracked glass and damaged OLED's. And those people actually paid $5-$10 more than the non-FRP phone trade in people that negotiated well. Had they not offered the trade-in, the people wouldn't have realized it was just a normal discount]
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I used to buy devices from police auctions 99% of which where frp locked. But by law I owned the devices. I had official paper work. So in these cases frp bypass was legit. But. Every ones brother cousin dad mom everytime forgot their password and I've heard the stories so many times now almost identical in each case. Its uncanny. ????

TheMadScientist said:
I used to buy devices from police auctions 99% of which where frp locked. But by law I owned the devices. I had official paper work. So in these cases frp bypass was legit. But. Every ones brother cousin dad mom everytime forgot their password and I've heard the stories so many times now almost identical in each case. Its uncanny.
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Exactly. There are legit cases when people have them in their possession. But, when someone answers "My case is the same. I've got the phone from close relative...." It doesn't exactly exude confidence. It simply shows that the person literally didn't even try. I mean, who immediately says that their case is exactly the same, to the very first story they're told.
This ruins it for the rest of the people that legitimately have them. As the mods don't want many of these questions answered. Not only that, there are threads where it's posted in detail, yet the OP decided that they're too lazy to search on their own. Not exactly surprising from someone that states "My case is the same. I've got the phone from..."
If for nothing else, these are usually good for a laugh.
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It's not so absurd actually.
My neighbor gave me her s8 before moving back home. In fact she replaced it simply because of a tiny scratch... Some people? Anyhow. It never occurred to me until that night ****ing with it trying to reach her... She has yet to respond...I ended up trying to reset it and found this... Which I've never encountered before. I was a software engineer back in the day (University of Michigan Mathematics Dept.GO Blue!) and upon seeing this I figure piece of cake. Well I'm now impressed and indeed relish a challenge. For I really don't need the phone. But I'm considering a reflash approach.
I understand the purpose of such rules but it does stink when your real agenda is intellectual.