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What is going on?
Unless there is reserved RAM for the system, It seems to be using a lot of it on it's own (no apps running)
It is Normal if you have the Snapdragon variant
androidlover287 said:
What is going on?
Unless there is reserved RAM for the system, It seems to be using a lot of it on it's own (no apps running)
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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I do in-deed The only variant sold in the UK (had the device 2 days now) is the SM-9005 (LTE/4G). Thank you for clearing that up for me
androidlover287 said:
I do in-deed The only variant sold in the UK (had the device 2 days now) is the SM-9005 (LTE/4G). Thank you for clearing that up for me
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I am glad, enjoy your beast
SAVVAS. said:
You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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any thoughts on why so much more then the lg g2, which also has the 800?
SAVVAS. said:
You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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nice to know
what about the N9000 ?
it's full 3GB RAM?
mmmooo said:
any thoughts on why so much more then the lg g2, which also has the 800?
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To be honest I have no clue, I do know that every snapdragon variant of Note 3 preserves a half gigabyte for the system (GPU) so logically Samsung chosed this set up and it is not by random. Maybe because Note 3 has 3GB of ram compared to LG which has 2GB and therefore the Snapdragon has more allowance/capacity to absorb more ram as 3 GB ram is plenty! Probably the bigger ram it preserves over the LG can be considered as an advantage and not disadvantage especially in the case of Note's 3 huge amount of ram.
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To be honest I have no clue, I do know that every snapdragon variant of Note 3 preserves a half gigabyte for the system (GPU) so logically Samsung chosed this set up and it is not by random. Maybe because Note 3 has 3GB of ram compared to LG which has 2GB and therefore the Snapdragon has more allowance/capacity to absorb more ram as 3 GB ram is plenty! Probably the bigger ram it preserves over the LB can be considered as an advantage and not disadvantage especially in the case of Note's 3 huge amount of ram.
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Yah sounds like all we know for now is the sd variant shows less memory. Just hoping it doesn't actually have less memory (physically).
benhouli said:
nice to know
what about the N9000 ?
it's full 3GB RAM?
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As far as I am concerned the Exynos version has 2.70 GB compared to Snapdaragon which has 2.40GB so it has a little bit more!
It's logical (if it is indeed the case) to reserve a good amount of memory for the GPU to access. It is a 1080p device, after all. Graphically-intense processes at higher resolutions typically require more memory than their lower resolution counterparts. The Adreno 330 is a more powerful GPU than the Mali-T628 MP, too.
SAVVAS. said:
As far as I am concerned the Exynos version has 2.70 GB compared to Snapdaragon which has 2.40GB so it has a little bit more!
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thanks for the info
mmmooo said:
Yah sounds like all we know for now is the sd variant shows less memory. Just hoping it doesn't actually have less memory (physically).
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From what I have seen so far, reviews-videos-comments,it seems that ram is not an issue on Snapdragon variants! Time will tell, that's for sure
staryoshi said:
It's logical (if it is indeed the case) to reserve a good amount of memory for the GPU to access. It is a 1080p device, after all. Graphically-intense processes at higher resolutions typically require more memory than their lower resolution counterparts. The Adreno 330 is a more powerful GPU than the Mali-T628 MP, too.
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G2 has sd800 + adreno 330, 1080p, but doesn't reserve anywhere near that much (granted has less to start). And yet doesn't seem to suffer from any performance issues. Something just isn't adding up for me, and don't have one yet to see for myself..
They made it that way for a reason. All that S stuff and Pen doesn't function on memory. It runs on ram. What you don't see is the "dedicated" amount of ram taken. Just like video cards.
The G2 has the same amount of ram being taken, it just doesn't show it. Same design for the GPro.
Your phone's are fine, and don't worry about all the free ram you don't see. Some of the ram that is shown as being used is reserved so apps aren't pulled from memory. It's pulled from RAM instead. It's more battery friendly.
It costs more battery power to have 'free' RAM sit there and then having apps occupy it, compared to the ram already being cached.
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No offense, but that's just nonsense. More physical ram takes more battery, that's true. But that's purely physical ram, regardless of what is, or isn't stored on it, as data stored in ram is no different if its marked free, or used.
And the lg 'not showing it', is more nonsense.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the phone, just that something doesn't add up, and would like to find out what that is legitimately, not based on nonsense/fud.
best for gaming?
Can you plz tell me that which version of galaxy note 3 is best for gaming... N9000 or N9005?
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SAVVAS. said:
You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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Can you plz tell me that which one would be better for games like Modern Combat 4... N9000 or n9005?
(if octa core uses all cores simultaniously)
Ali_Ejea said:
Can you plz tell me that which version of galaxy note 3 is best for gaming... N9000 or N9005?
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Can you plz tell me that which one would be better for games like Modern Combat 4... N9000 or n9005?
(if octa core uses all cores simultaniously)
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I am quite confident that N9005 is better for games!
staryoshi said:
It's logical (if it is indeed the case) to reserve a good amount of memory for the GPU to access. It is a 1080p device, after all. Graphically-intense processes at higher resolutions typically require more memory than their lower resolution counterparts. The Adreno 330 is a more powerful GPU than the Mali-T628 MP, too.
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That doesn't explain why Exynos version has 2.70gb RAM vs 2.40gb RAM in the Snapdragon.
I may not be the best judge, having came from a phone with 1GB of RAM, but the Galaxy Note 3 has been a beast when it comes to multitasking for me. I'm pleasantly surprised when I switch to an app I haven't used for a while and it's STILL in active memory (i.e. doesn't have to reload). My old Galaxy Nexus used to drive me nuts with that, pretty much could only have 2, maybe 3 apps open at once.
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I am quite confident that N9005 is better for games!
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Can you tell me the reason bro? I am going to place my order tommorow so i just want to ensure that which one of those two is better for gaming and why? Plz reply me as soon as possible... Thanks
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And one more thing, is there any octa core variant of Note 3 with 4g LTE support?
Hello,
I just recently picked up a GN3 from Pakistan and due to how shady the cellphone market is here, I have been trying everything I can to figure out whether my phone is a fake or not. The device was shipped in from the UAE and what concerns me a little is the information I'm getting using a few apps that scan the CPU.
My knowledge in this regard is a little weak and for some reason I feel like I don't have the chipset that Samsung might have wanted me to have. Please take a look. I have the SnapDragon 800 version (SM-9005).
Should the processor say something along the lines of SD800E instead of ArmV7?
Thanks in advance.
Use this app if it's available to you and it will tell you if its real or a fake. It compares it to other devices.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hotdog.truth
Thats a Legit N3, All SOC are ARM Based.
Manufacturer, Device, Product, Brand, Android Version, API level,build ID, Fingerprint, Resolution, Processor, Memory, etc is all correct. From that app atleast you should have this if you scroll down:
OpenGL 1.X (Adreno(TM) 330 same for GL 2.0
Graphics mode should be RGBA 32BIT
If so, your all set. You can also benchmark it for peace of mind... your score should be 17~20k on quadrant and geekbench 3 should be 800+ for single-core and 2400+ for multi-core. (Mines 869/2510 GB3, 20K on Quadrant but stock should be abit lower)
There is no way any of the fake note 3 soc will come close to these scores.
nxneko said:
Thats a Legit N3, All SOC are ARM Based.
Manufacturer, Device, Product, Brand, Android Version, API level,build ID, Fingerprint, Resolution, Processor, Memory, etc is all correct. From that app atleast you should have this if you scroll down:
OpenGL 1.X (Adreno(TM) 330 same for GL 2.0
Graphics mode should be RGBA 32BIT
If so, your all set. You can also benchmark it for peace of mind... your score should be 17~20k on quadrant and geekbench 3 should be 800+ for single-core and 2400+ for multi-core. (Mines 869/2510 GB3, 20K on Quadrant but stock should be abit lower)
There is no way any of the fake note 3 soc will come close to these scores.
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I scored 28894 ..that decent? Says faster then 92% of devices in the world lol
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I scored 28894 ..that decent? Says faster then 92% of devices in the world lol
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Yeah thats good then.... lol your in the clear what rom/kernel though...holyheck.
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nxneko said:
Yeah thats good then.... lol your in the clear what rom/kernel though...holyheck.
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Jellybomb with beast mode kernal
floko127 said:
Hello,
I just recently picked up a GN3 from Pakistan and due to how shady the cellphone market is here, I have been trying everything I can to figure out whether my phone is a fake or not. The device was shipped in from the UAE and what concerns me a little is the information I'm getting using a few apps that scan the CPU.
My knowledge in this regard is a little weak and for some reason I feel like I don't have the chipset that Samsung might have wanted me to have. Please take a look. I have the SnapDragon 800 version (SM-9005).
Should the processor say something along the lines of SD800E instead of ArmV7?
Thanks in advance.
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That's definitely a legit n9005. I have the same stuff come up on mine which is uk version.
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Just a heads up though, if you use xposed framework and have xprivacy installed it can come up as a fake due to the app not having permission to read all the info.
I have 2 Note 3's that are "Fakes" but as soon as xprivacy was turned off they become Genuine...
Hi
Some time ago, I purchased this smartphone - I think I picked the quadcore variant and was sure of that until now.
The model I have is SM-N910C, so this should be the exynos version, right?
Now that I want to install the TWRP recovery, I saw many different versions for each different model.
Just to be sure, I checked again, if I really have the proper version and it now seems that my Note 4 actually has the octacore.
So, in short, here's my question: How do I make 100% certain, which model I have and which chipset it uses without looking at the processor itself?
Apparently, the model displayed in download mode is accurate.....
According to some members, the info in download mode is 'hardcoded' into the device, and nothing can change it..... apparently.
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
ok, I finally could clarify which cpu is actually in my note 4: it's the exynos octacore.
Since it's a 64bit cpu, I consider this to be a happy accident
Utsuho Reiuji said:
ok, I finally could clarify which cpu is actually in my note 4: it's the exynos octacore.
Since it's a 64bit cpu, I consider this to be a happy accident
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Sorry to burst your bubble but eventhough exynos 5433 chipset with 4xARM cortex A53 and 4xARM cortex A57 supports 64 bit, neither the rom nor the kernel is 64 bit enabled.
neondragon1909 said:
Sorry to burst your bubble but eventhough exynos 5433 chipset with 4xARM cortex A53 and 4xARM cortex A57 supports 64 bit, neither the rom nor the kernel is 64 bit enabled.
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Oh, I'm aware of that, but still, having the 64 bit core is already fine even though I cannot really use its advantages.
Utsuho Reiuji said:
Oh, I'm aware of that, but still, having the 64 bit core is already fine even though I cannot really use its advantages.
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Hi,
After the last update (android 6.0.1) has greatly increased performance GPU (mali t628 mp6) , Why? It is even better than Adreno 330.
Bro...what r u asking...i cant get u
G900h has exynos and is the better phone performance wise what are you asking though
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[email protected] said:
G900h has exynos and is the better phone performance wise what are you asking though
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It isn't. The GPU adreno 330 is 60% faster then the one in exynos version.
htb2050 said:
It isn't. The GPU adreno 330 is 60% faster then the one in exynos version.
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it's not true. After the last update (android 6.0.1) increased performance GPU. Just look at the results GFXbench. Now are the same as adreno 330 or better.
kubussz said:
it's not true. After the last update (android 6.0.1) increased performance GPU. Just look at the results GFXbench. Now are the same as adreno 330 or better.
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No they aren't. Drivers don't increase hardware performance. You can't say that a chip from 2 years ago could be made to run as fast as one released today.
htb2050 said:
No they aren't. Drivers don't increase hardware performance. You can't say that a chip from 2 years ago could be made to run as fast as one released today.
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I do not compare mali t628 to today chip, only for adreno 330. The fact is that the update (android 6.0.1) performance increased. On android(kitkat) were much lower scores in GFXbeanch. I have galaxy s5 900H and it is checked.
kubussz said:
I do not compare mali t628 to today chip, only for adreno 330. The fact is that the update (android 6.0.1) performance increased. On android(kitkat) were much lower scores in GFXbeanch. I have galaxy s5 900H and it is checked.
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Maybe you didn't understand. Adreno 330 is faster because of hardware, not because of software. Mali is lower because its hardware is inferior to 330. Those are physical facts that can't be changed by anyone.
htb2050 said:
Maybe you didn't understand. Adreno 330 is faster because of hardware, not because of software. Mali is lower because its hardware is inferior to 330. Those are physical facts that can't be changed by anyone.
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GFXbench results testify to something else. These are the facts, you can check!
I do not understand how to better hardware? if the results (GFXbench) tell a different story
Why Fortnite doesn't work on Mi A2/6X, Mi Pad 4 and other Snapdragon 660 devices and Fortnite work on Samsung Galaxy A9 2018 (it's a Snapdragon 660 phone) ?
https://twitter.com/anothrandomuser/status/1105563355111219205
I have hack the apk of the fortnite app and be able to download the game trust me , it's very slow and very buggy, you don't need it,,
Also servers kicks you out because of the lag,,,
Tried with the lowest setting possible :/
@Mashrmallow Fortnite doesn't support any SD660
Device. I tried modifying the apk and installing it on my Stock A2 but its lags like crazy not worth it
Varun.Shanbhag said:
@Mashrmallow Fortnite doesn't support any SD660
Device. I tried modifying the apk and installing it on my Stock A2 but its lags like crazy not worth it
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I think if Epic Games willbad the support for sdm6660 in Fortnite, the performance will be better because I already play on Samsung Galaxy A9 2018 (Another sdm660 device) and it's not buggy and it's payable
Mashrmallow said:
I think if Epic Games willbad the support for sdm6660 in Fortnite, the performance will be better because I already play on Samsung Galaxy A9 2018 (Another sdm660 device) and it's not buggy and it's payable
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I wish they add more support for more devices,,,
Mi A2 has adreno 512 gpu but fortnite requires adreno 530 gpu. If this can be sorted and graphics be a bit reduced fortnite can be played easily.
RawRachit said:
Mi A2 has adreno 512 gpu but fortnite requires adreno 530 gpu. If this can be sorted and graphics be a bit reduced fortnite can be played easily.
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Fortnite support Adreno 512 You because Samsung Galaxy A9 2018 (sdm660) run it officially, Fortnite just didn't add compatibility for other sdm660 device
I checked for the specs to run fortnite, it shows that adreno 530 or higher is required.
RawRachit said:
I checked for the specs to run fortnite, it shows that adreno 530 or higher is required.
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I know but in the official device compatibility list it show Samsung Galaxy A9 (2018) and it's a sdm660 phone (Adreno 512) like the Mi A2/6X
Neverhopless said:
I know but in the official device compatibility list it show Samsung Galaxy A9 (2018) and it's a sdm660 phone (Adreno 512) like the Mi A2/6X
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What about custom kernel and performance mods ?
edit: what if we change our devices fingerprint to a9 2018 ?
Mashrmallow said:
Why Fortnite doesn't work on Mi A2/6X
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it works good and smooth on my mi a2. Use gltools for masking gpu
You probably don't even know the difference between CPU and GPU but it is normal, this is what I expect from the average fortnite player. Your phone, as well as all other phones, have both a CPU (the sdm660 for example) and a GPU (like the adreno 512, for example). Two phones can have the same CPU just like the A9 you are referring to and the A2 but have a different GPU. So probably the A9 doesn't have an Adreno512 GPU but a better one.
faffu41 said:
You probably don't even know the difference between CPU and GPU but it is normal, this is what I expect from the average fortnite player. Your phone, as well as all other phones, have both a CPU (the sdm660 for example) and a GPU (like the adreno 512, for example). Two phones can have the same CPU just like the A9 you are referring to and the A2 but have a different GPU. So probably the A9 doesn't have an Adreno512 GPU but a better one.
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It's a CPU+GPU board (APUs?), two phones with the same CPU will always have the same GPU (at least for Snapdragon devices). The Galaxy A9 have the Adreno 512, it's just marketing.
faffu41 said:
You probably don't even know the difference between CPU and GPU but it is normal, this is what I expect from the average fortnite player. Your phone, as well as all other phones, have both a CPU (the sdm660 for example) and a GPU (like the adreno 512, for example). Two phones can have the same CPU just like the A9 you are referring to and the A2 but have a different GPU. So probably the A9 doesn't have an Adreno512 GPU but a better one.
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For your information I know the difference between CPU and GPU and A9 have a Adreno 512 like the Mi A2 (It's the same CPU and GPU than a Mi A2 but only the A9 can run fortnite with a sdm660) and for a snapdragon processor case the GPU can't be different for the same processor (exemple: a Adreno 509 is impossible to be in a phone who use a sdm660, only a Adreno 512 is possible to be in a phone who use a sdm660)
PHPoenX said:
it works good and smooth on my mi a2. Use gltools for masking gpu
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I already tried this before but now it's not working anymore in the current version for me
q0kHaN said:
What about custom kernel and performance mods ?
edit: what if we change our devices fingerprint to a9 2018 ?
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That's will be the same if we change fingerprint to A9 2018 I guess fortnite check also codename, IMEI and GPU now
UnparallelSKY said:
That's will be the same if we change fingerprint to A9 2018 I guess fortnite check also codename, IMEI and GPU now
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it cant check imei cause it doesnt want phone permission afaik
UnparallelSKY said:
Why Fortnite doesn't work on Mi A2/6X, Mi Pad 4 and other Snapdragon 660 devices and Fortnite work on Samsung Galaxy A9 2018 (it's a Snapdragon 660 phone) ?
https://twitter.com/anothrandomuser/status/1105563355111219205
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yeah its because fortnite not allowing weak devices to play so that every phone user has the same advantage ( no lags and lack fps )
but it seems to make no sense since u said that the A9 can run it up but Mi A2 can't so yeah epic games is just so bad at maintaining the mobile version #_#