What is going on?
Unless there is reserved RAM for the system, It seems to be using a lot of it on it's own (no apps running)
It is Normal if you have the Snapdragon variant
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What is going on?
Unless there is reserved RAM for the system, It seems to be using a lot of it on it's own (no apps running)
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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I do in-deed The only variant sold in the UK (had the device 2 days now) is the SM-9005 (LTE/4G). Thank you for clearing that up for me
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I do in-deed The only variant sold in the UK (had the device 2 days now) is the SM-9005 (LTE/4G). Thank you for clearing that up for me
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I am glad, enjoy your beast
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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any thoughts on why so much more then the lg g2, which also has the 800?
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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nice to know
what about the N9000 ?
it's full 3GB RAM?
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any thoughts on why so much more then the lg g2, which also has the 800?
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To be honest I have no clue, I do know that every snapdragon variant of Note 3 preserves a half gigabyte for the system (GPU) so logically Samsung chosed this set up and it is not by random. Maybe because Note 3 has 3GB of ram compared to LG which has 2GB and therefore the Snapdragon has more allowance/capacity to absorb more ram as 3 GB ram is plenty! Probably the bigger ram it preserves over the LG can be considered as an advantage and not disadvantage especially in the case of Note's 3 huge amount of ram.
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To be honest I have no clue, I do know that every snapdragon variant of Note 3 preserves a half gigabyte for the system (GPU) so logically Samsung chosed this set up and it is not by random. Maybe because Note 3 has 3GB of ram compared to LG which has 2GB and therefore the Snapdragon has more allowance/capacity to absorb more ram as 3 GB ram is plenty! Probably the bigger ram it preserves over the LB can be considered as an advantage and not disadvantage especially in the case of Note's 3 huge amount of ram.
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Yah sounds like all we know for now is the sd variant shows less memory. Just hoping it doesn't actually have less memory (physically).
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nice to know
what about the N9000 ?
it's full 3GB RAM?
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As far as I am concerned the Exynos version has 2.70 GB compared to Snapdaragon which has 2.40GB so it has a little bit more!
It's logical (if it is indeed the case) to reserve a good amount of memory for the GPU to access. It is a 1080p device, after all. Graphically-intense processes at higher resolutions typically require more memory than their lower resolution counterparts. The Adreno 330 is a more powerful GPU than the Mali-T628 MP, too.
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As far as I am concerned the Exynos version has 2.70 GB compared to Snapdaragon which has 2.40GB so it has a little bit more!
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thanks for the info
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Yah sounds like all we know for now is the sd variant shows less memory. Just hoping it doesn't actually have less memory (physically).
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From what I have seen so far, reviews-videos-comments,it seems that ram is not an issue on Snapdragon variants! Time will tell, that's for sure
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It's logical (if it is indeed the case) to reserve a good amount of memory for the GPU to access. It is a 1080p device, after all. Graphically-intense processes at higher resolutions typically require more memory than their lower resolution counterparts. The Adreno 330 is a more powerful GPU than the Mali-T628 MP, too.
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G2 has sd800 + adreno 330, 1080p, but doesn't reserve anywhere near that much (granted has less to start). And yet doesn't seem to suffer from any performance issues. Something just isn't adding up for me, and don't have one yet to see for myself..
They made it that way for a reason. All that S stuff and Pen doesn't function on memory. It runs on ram. What you don't see is the "dedicated" amount of ram taken. Just like video cards.
The G2 has the same amount of ram being taken, it just doesn't show it. Same design for the GPro.
Your phone's are fine, and don't worry about all the free ram you don't see. Some of the ram that is shown as being used is reserved so apps aren't pulled from memory. It's pulled from RAM instead. It's more battery friendly.
It costs more battery power to have 'free' RAM sit there and then having apps occupy it, compared to the ram already being cached.
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No offense, but that's just nonsense. More physical ram takes more battery, that's true. But that's purely physical ram, regardless of what is, or isn't stored on it, as data stored in ram is no different if its marked free, or used.
And the lg 'not showing it', is more nonsense.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the phone, just that something doesn't add up, and would like to find out what that is legitimately, not based on nonsense/fud.
best for gaming?
Can you plz tell me that which version of galaxy note 3 is best for gaming... N9000 or N9005?
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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Can you plz tell me that which one would be better for games like Modern Combat 4... N9000 or n9005?
(if octa core uses all cores simultaniously)
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Can you plz tell me that which version of galaxy note 3 is best for gaming... N9000 or N9005?
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Can you plz tell me that which one would be better for games like Modern Combat 4... N9000 or n9005?
(if octa core uses all cores simultaniously)
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I am quite confident that N9005 is better for games!
staryoshi said:
It's logical (if it is indeed the case) to reserve a good amount of memory for the GPU to access. It is a 1080p device, after all. Graphically-intense processes at higher resolutions typically require more memory than their lower resolution counterparts. The Adreno 330 is a more powerful GPU than the Mali-T628 MP, too.
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That doesn't explain why Exynos version has 2.70gb RAM vs 2.40gb RAM in the Snapdragon.
I may not be the best judge, having came from a phone with 1GB of RAM, but the Galaxy Note 3 has been a beast when it comes to multitasking for me. I'm pleasantly surprised when I switch to an app I haven't used for a while and it's STILL in active memory (i.e. doesn't have to reload). My old Galaxy Nexus used to drive me nuts with that, pretty much could only have 2, maybe 3 apps open at once.
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I am quite confident that N9005 is better for games!
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Can you tell me the reason bro? I am going to place my order tommorow so i just want to ensure that which one of those two is better for gaming and why? Plz reply me as soon as possible... Thanks
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And one more thing, is there any octa core variant of Note 3 with 4g LTE support?
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so confused...VOTE!
They finally released 2GB version! My prayers are heard!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/30/canadian-carriers-put-galaxy-s-iii-launch-on-june-20th/
2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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both of them are on par on performance with one winning the others in few test, you will absolutely note no difference in performance.
bala_gamer said:
2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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What makes you say that S4 uses more memory? Both of them don't have dedicated graphics memory like the Tegra3 so they both need to use system ram. The rest is upto the OS, the SoC has nothing to do with it.
I'd pick the dual-core, 4g LTE (and DC-HSPA on 3g which the quad-core doesn't have), 2gb ram and it's not even close.
- Similar performance
- Super fast 4g speeds
- Much faster 3g speeds thanks to DC-HSPA
- 2gb ram means less app killing to make more room for other apps which leads to smoother - more fluid UI experience
I have no idea why people would want the quad-core exynos, other than the fact that it's been released.
S4/Krait : (+) newer architecture, not exactly A15, but comparable. Good battery life. If you use LTE, I think it has integrated LTE radios.
Quad-Exynos: (+) Powerful GPU, I would believe that Samsung can optimize their software much better for Exynos compared to S4. Decent battery life. I read that they modified the architecture with options like 128-bit internal bus which is not available in other A9's.
2GB RAM to probably offset the extra memory used by S4 as we saw in the case AT&T HOX multitasking issue.
Decision is yours.
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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Tegra 3 sucks compared to S4 but exynos is way better than Tegra 3. I would say exynos is the best currently. I'm not sure if there will be too much advantage to gain with 2gb ram. The one advantage the s4 will have over exynos is battery life.
How many of the people who are saying that s4 plus 2gb is not good actually have an option to buy it? Only guys in US who have option to go with either of the two will give you right answer.
Im going with exynos quadcore... Do i think s4 plus 2gb plus lte is better in terms of hardware? definitely yes. Then why am i getting exynos? I want 10bucks unlimited data which will be available only with the unbranded phone. And international phone will have better developer support.
Im positive that s4 version will be super fluid if you choose to go for it though. I think i have made my decision that ill will get international version for my own reasons.
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I'd pick the dual-core, 4g LTE (and DC-HSPA on 3g which the quad-core doesn't have), 2gb ram and it's not even close.
- Similar performance
- Super fast 4g speeds
- Much faster 3g speeds thanks to DC-HSPA
- 2gb ram means less app killing to make more room for other apps which leads to smoother - more fluid UI experience
I have no idea why people would want the quad-core exynos, other than the fact that it's been released.
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Your only valid point is 4G, oh well.....I will have to make do with "only" 42mB/s on DC-HSPA....yes we will have it in Sweden on the Quad core.
2GB RAM is meaningless.
Definitely getting the S4 version as soon as it hits AT&T. I hope it has the Wolfson DAC... but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.
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2GB RAM is meaningless.
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2GB RAM is a must today. If you do not want to seeks kernels with swap option next months you need this RAM.
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Your only valid point is 4G, oh well.....I will have to make do with "only" 42mB/s on DC-HSPA....yes we will have it in Sweden on the Quad core.
2GB RAM is meaningless.
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2gb ram means faster more fluid multitasking due to Android not having to kill/reload so many apps when you run multiple things. Won't see crap like the launcher having to reload because you opened a few apps for a while. It leads to better user experience.
And how is Snapdragon S4 vs Exynos 4412 performance not similar? From benchmarks I've seen they're both extremely comparable: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
I don't live in Sweden, so our Exynos variant doesn't have DC-HSPA......yet another reason not to waste money on that variant.
They're both good combinations and offer interesting points for technical comparison. My bet is that real world use on both is very fluid. Both are better than Tegra 3 anyways.
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Quad with 2Gb..?
Thread to thread in super Pi the S4 is just 18% faster, so it will shine a bit in a dual core scenario but will be crushed by the Exynos otherwise (4 threads).
Then the GPU of the Exynos is a lot better (S4 GPU is in the range of the SGS2) and battery drain seem comparable between the 2.
Given an option I will go for S4 (Krait) + 2GB but sadly my part of the geographical location I will get only the Quad core one
Wish they went with adreno 320 and s4 quad like thar stupid looking leaked lg phone.
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If you have LTE in your area get the 2.gb if not get the quad. Hspa + isn't exactly slow, just not comparable to LTE
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I think the decision would make it way more easy for me if there was at least a launch date in US and for AT&T specifically. But it could be fall yet before it actually makes it debut here and also depends on which carrier launches first etc.. etc...
I have the International ordered and still may cancel it if this low stock fiasco doesn't end soon... and wait to see how the US launches unfold. I'm also interested to see real life comparisons of performance between these 2 variants..
Hi I currently have an S3 i9300 and my company requires me to install MobileIron app and encrypt the whole phone; I find this slows down my phone considerably and often times I need to wait almost a minute for my app drawer to display my apps or some 20 seconds for camera to start.
Don't know if my experience with the S3 i9300 is only because of encryption app or also my processor-ram specs combination is not powerful enough to get a smooth experience.
So I'm looking to upgrade to an S4 but I don't know which version should I get based on which should be the faster one?
Should I get the 1.9GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 quad-core processor or a 1.6GHz Exynos Octa-core processor?
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Hi I currently have an S3 i9300 and my company requires me to install MobileIron app and encrypt the whole phone; I find this slows down my phone considerably and often times I need to wait almost a minute for my app drawer to display my apps or some 20 seconds for camera to start.
Don't know if my experience with the S3 i9300 is only because of encryption app or also my processor-ram specs combination is not powerful enough to get a smooth experience.
So I'm looking to upgrade to an S4 but I don't know which version should I get based on which should be the faster one?
Should I get the 1.9GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 quad-core processor or a 1.6GHz Exynos Octa-core processor?
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Octa core variant is marginally faster but does not support 4g
Snapdragon Is little slow compare to Octa core but support 4g
u can choose as per ur need
Both are good device
the i9500 is faster even though it is really a quad core phone and only 4 cores can be activated at the same time. but I've seen somewhere that Samsung said with android 5 update the phone will be a real octa core and all eight cores can be used simultaneously.
The change to a i9500/9505 for you will be very good because the s3 I9300 only has 1gig of ram compared to the i9500/i9505 that have new processors and 2gigs of ram. That extra ram will definitely make a difference.
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Octa core :good:
Hamoonfarsa said:
the i9500 is faster even though it is really a quad core phone and only 4 cores can be activated at the same time. but I've seen somewhere that Samsung said with android 5 update the phone will be a real octa core and all eight cores can be used simultaneously.
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What are you saying, Android 5 doesn't even exist. Also the Exynos 5410 won't allow all 8 cores only the exynos 5420 can which is only in the Note 3
So based on what you said, I could even consider the Note3 which has 3gigs of ram and expect even better smoother performance? Saying I wouldn't mind the extra real state needs if I could realistically expect a noticeable improvement over currently described S3 conditions...
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4core is faster. clocked at 1.9
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So based on what you said, I could even consider the Note3 which has 3gigs of ram and expect even better smoother performance? Saying I wouldn't mind the extra real state needs if I could realistically expect a noticeable improvement over currently described S3 conditions...
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If u can go for the note 3 and u don't mind it's size ... go for the note 3 and never look back ... but i suggest u wait if you can ofc for about a month to see how the s800 against the 5420 exynos compares ... it not so much about the ram except if you are a really heavy multitasker but the cpu and gpu which we know for sure that in the snapdragon case it's a considerable improvement especially in the gpu department and we ve yet to see how the new exynos chipset will compare to it's older sibling ...
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What are you saying, Android 5 doesn't even exist. Also the Exynos 5410 won't allow all 8 cores only the exynos 5420 can which is only in the Note 3
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This is what I'm talking about. And for now note 3 is not octa core either.
Right, I cannot make my mind up so I thought I would come on here, il make it short.
Which has better performance - Snapdragon 800 OR Exynos 5420
I don't give a flying f*** about 4G or 4K. Which one has better performance i.e which is faster?
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Right, I cannot make my mind up so I thought I would come on here, il make it short.
Which has better performance - Snapdragon 800 OR Exynos 5420
I don't give a flying f*** about 4G or 4K. Which one has better performance i.e which is faster?
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I would say the Snapdragon 800 because more devs would get it= more roms, better clock speed, better battery life because of chipset enhancements, faster charging because of chipset enhancements. If none of those matter to you get the Exynos version.
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hayat55 said:
Right, I cannot make my mind up so I thought I would come on here, il make it short.
Which has better performance - Snapdragon 800 OR Exynos 5420
I don't give a flying f*** about 4G or 4K. Which one has better performance i.e which is faster?
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Define performance.
Then we talk. My definition of performance is much different from that of my neighbour.
Dont you think you are showing too much attitude? How hard is it to say please? And snapdragon and exynos benchmarks are about the same
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Dont you think you are showing too much attitude? How hard is it to say please? And snapdragon and exynos benchmarks are about the same
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To be technical, it seems that Exynos benchmarks are slightly higher. However, I believe that is without the HMP update. With that, scores will skyrocket.
I can't make my mind up whether to get snapdragon 800 version or exynos 5420. By performance i mean which can do more multitasking and which can run apps faster etc
From what I've seen the scores are indeed about the same on the benchmark front. They will both be good! I'm guessing the s800 will get more dev support and probably cm. It will all be your choice, do you want lte or not.
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From what I've seen the scores are indeed about the same on the benchmark front. They will both be good! I'm guessing the s800 will get more dev support and probably cm. It will all be your choice, do you want lte or not.
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One thing that pushes me towards the exynos is that it has 1866 ram speed whereas snapdragon only has 800
Which do you think will be better in the long run?
^^^ forgot to mention that because exynos has higher ram speed then that means quicker performance.
So, which one should I get? Will there really be any difference between the performance of exynos 5420 and snapdragon 800?
You really do seem to have an attitude in your posts. Anyways, the phone isn't out yet so all anybody has is benchmarks to go by. Not a lot of real world use reviews out there to compare the two.
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I guess the ram speed can be neglected in real life usage. The s4 with the s600 feels the same as the octa version to me. And that is while the octa s4 obliterated the s600 in Antutu and some other Benchmarks. Like I've said before, if you want lte and better rom support get the s800 one. If you're really spec whoring get a 8 core exynos.
Anyways, from what I've seen so far the s800 seems to be faster in Antutu but not that much so I guess they will be at the same level of performance.
I would get any device I could get which for me is the s800 since I'm from the Netherlands.
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S800
LTE
Better support
Benchmark mean absolutely nothing and are a terrible way if measuring a phone. I've seen plenty if phones have high numbers but real world experience sucked.
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Easy. Snapdragon since there will be much more support for it from developers.
Also, don't forget, the 8-core is a lie
You have your normal 4-cores with an additional 4 'smaller' cores to handle always running less intense things. I really don't see the advantage to this, you don't get more out of benchmarks because those 4 'smaller' cores won't be used, except by some obscure background task that wouldn't slow down the benchmark anyways. It also won't help with the battery life, no matter how you spin it a clock cycle is a clock cycle.
The only time you will see gains from small memory speed increases are in things like calculating pie, so again, useless for day-to-day stuff. As other have stated, support. Qualcomm based will get AOSP based roms without any problems.
If you are looking to flaunt your meaningless bigger numbers around, by all means, get the 8-core.
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Also, don't forget, the 8-core is a lie
You have your normal 4-cores with an additional 4 'smaller' cores to handle always running less intense things. I really don't see the advantage to this, you don't get more out of benchmarks because those 4 'smaller' cores won't be used, except by some obscure background task that wouldn't slow down the benchmark anyways. It also won't help with the battery life, no matter how you spin it a clock cycle is a clock cycle.
The only time you will see gains from small memory speed increases are in things like calculating pie, so again, useless for day-to-day stuff. As other have stated, support. Qualcomm based will get AOSP based roms without any problems.
If you are looking to flaunt your meaningless bigger numbers around, by all means, get the 8-core.
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Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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Source? Cause idk about that....
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Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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I thought they were. Wasn't it something like a Heterogeneous or HMP update.
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Source? Cause idk about that....
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was news a few weeks ago.......
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...-update-to-become-true-octa-core-chip_id47353
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...a-software-new-hardware-not-needed-after-all/
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Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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It can't be a true 8-core. The extra 4 cores are far less powerful then the other 4.
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It can't be a true 8-core. The extra 4 cores are far less powerful then the other 4.
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Let me tell you some preludes:
The reason behind using 8 cores was to put in a pair of four aggressively powerful quad processors like the cortex A15 with another pair of less powerful yet more power efficient four quad processors like cortex A7.
This is the main intention behind putting all these 8 cores of ARM's big.little architecture. The purpose is to let the A15s handle power hungry tasks like web page opening, playing an asphalt 8 game etc while the a7s would handle "simple" tasks. This is more vividly demoed in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwbeb08W27U
Now, the way you are saying it is not a true 8 core processor as if you are
1. demanding 8 cortex A15 processors using 28 nm technology.
Do you know/have any idea what could happen if they all be available online at the same time in this case?
or
2. you knew there was a "true" octa core processor in the world, to be (or already) implemented in another device. IF SO, point us to that device and also explain what is the ideal to call a processor true 8 core.
It was never an intention of ARM to put eight A15s (for example) available for heterogeneous multi-processing.
Go here. Again 64 bit A57s are to be paired with 32 bit A52s.
Even the S4 equipped with exynos 5410 is an octa core processor device. It is just that the bloody CCI (cache coherence interconnector, CCI400) was crippled to enable all the 8 cores available online. Once the 8 cores packed in a SoC like this it is an octa core processor device. Whether or not you like it to call true 8 core.
Samsung/ARM worked on this and released another SoC (in the form of upgraded exynos) which has a working CCI that is free from the above mentioned flaw(s) which will have Cluster Migration by default and will receive the update that is made from Linaro team to enable all the 8 cores available online and therefore will become a "TRULY WORKING" 8 core processor which is implemented in Note 3.
These are facts, these have been heavily discussed in the general section of Samsung Galaxy S4 forums.
Oh, another thing- just because all these 8 cores are made to be available online it does not mean all the 8 cores will be working Simultaneously regardless of what application is in the process. Depending on the needs of the app(s) all these 8 cores (ranging from 1 core to the extreme case- 8 cores) can be used. If an app needs 4 cores, they can be used. If it needs 6 cores then they can be used. If it needs 8 cores then they can be used.
I personally am curious to see how it be going when all the 8 cores were used for an app.
And to the OP who's demadning a straight answer, my thoughts:
we do not know anything atm how power efficient and cool it'd be to have the HMP doing all these tasks. This requires
real life buyers buy the device
start playing with it
see how hot the device becomes (compared to another exynos device like s4).
It actually depends on those stuffs. You demand the answer as if we all knew from the beginning how exynos 5420 gonna perform in real life.
Is there a performance difference between the Snapdragon 800 and Samsung Exynos 5 Octa (1.9 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 + 1.3 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7) Core variants in terms of UI fluency thanks in advance.
I have had bad experience with Exynos as they become so slow after time. I will never buy one again.
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I think no difference, or it is very slight. I saw no lags during my daily usage.
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Is there a performance difference between the Snapdragon 800 and Samsung Exynos 5 Octa (1.9 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 + 1.3 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7) Core variants in terms of UI fluency thanks in advance.
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Many people here says that snapdragon is a much better option. I agree with them.
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Snapdragon is LTE .. Exynos is not.. That's one difference.. The rest may be the same...
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LTE and 4K video on Snapdragon, not on Exynos. Snapdragon has little better GPU, Exynos could be tiny bit little faster on CPU side in some tests, but not others . If anybody has any issues with UI speed it is most likely not hardware issue, but software.
pete4k said:
LTE and 4K video on Snapdragon, not on Exynos. Snapdragon has little better GPU, Exynos could be tiny bit little faster on CPU side in some tests, but not others . If anybody has any issues with UI speed it is most likely not hardware issue, but software.
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well - i think UI is more part of the gpu, so the gpu has to be potent.
If i ware you, ot, i would buy the SD Device. Reason? LTE and a higher cpu clock (I'm testing the wonderchild kernel - 3ghz, fast as hell
Also, there are more kernels for the SD device, as the exynos version is not so popular in many countries...
äon said:
well - i think UI is more part of the gpu, so the gpu has to be potent.
If i ware you, ot, i would buy the SD Device. Reason? LTE and a higher cpu clock (I'm testing the wonderchild kernel - 3ghz, fast as hell
Also, there are more kernels for the SD device, as the exynos version is not so popular in many countries...
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thaks for your answer I ask the same question to the Samsung US Chat agent and he said Octacore variant is better in overall performance. What do you think I also closer to the Snapdragon version but I am not in US and due to that reason is there a region lock and it should be unlocked by the service provider. I could not decide.
The only reason I chose the Qcomm over the Exynos is because the former has LTE capability.
kenny1991 said:
I have had bad experience with Exynos as they become so slow after time. I will never buy one again.
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are you serious about that??
me too would personally prefer the snapdragon over the exynos, but your statement is crap!
if something gets slow over time it's the OS or the nand (4.3 supports the trim command, so this
should not be an issue anymore). like a pc with windows, after some time it gets full of garbage
and this has some impact on performance, not the used processor type!
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thaks for your answer I ask the same question to the Samsung US Chat agent and he said Octacore variant is better in overall performance. What do you think I also closer to the Snapdragon version but I am not in US and due to that reason is there a region lock and it should be unlocked by the service provider. I could not decide.
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I think it's simple.
Does you provider support LTE? ==> GET A QCOMM
It doesn't? ==> GET AN EXYNOS
I hope i could help you
Your post is crap.
How is it is when I factory reset or flash new room? Sånne sit happened to note 1 and 10.1. No more crapy exynos.
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SD800 = 4G LTE & 4k video rec.
Exynos 5 = no 4G LTE & 4k video rec.
kenny1991 said:
Your post is crap.
How is it is when I factory reset or flash new room? Sånne sit happened to note 1 and 10.1. No more crapy exynos.
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lol, you have no idea what you are talking about, do you?
TML1504 said:
lol, you have no idea what you are talking about, do you?
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I would like to ask about the region lock of Note 3, if for example I buy a Note 3 (n9005-snapdragon 800) from Bestbuy and I want to use it in different country which does not support lte can I use it or what should I do to use it thank you in advance
A thread where all benchmarks are posted. Especially when comparing exynos vs SD 820
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7_and_s7_edge_benchmarked_the_exynos_flavor-news-16794.php
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Seems way of if you ask me.. should kill the z5... There is deff something wrong here!
johanbiff said:
Seems way of if you ask me.. should kill the z5... There is deff something wrong here!
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Z5 is rendering in 1080p so there's no surprise it comes ahead in onscreen benchmarks. The mali-gpu is also not the strongest. Pretty sure the 820 will perform better.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G5-shakes-hands-with-Snapdragon-820-to-shatter-AnTuTu-records-benchmark-test-scores_id78636
LG G5 seems to be scoring almost 20k higher than the exynos 8890-equipped S7. S820 looks to be the better SoC by far at this point.
https://youtu.be/qMJ2x6POZak
128k there.i guess its the exynos
Anyway not enough to surpass the iphone
http://www.antutu.com/en/view.shtml?id=8184
s3ns3lol said:
https://youtu.be/qMJ2x6POZak
128k there.i guess its the exynos
Anyway not enough to surpass the iphone
http://www.antutu.com/en/view.shtml?id=8184
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Seriously ? Do you even know how ios and android operate ?
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To sum things up: the Snapdragon 820 sports a better GPU, the Exynos 8890 sports a better CPU and a better DAC (Qualcomm DACs just haven't got the best of reputations, while the Exynos usually sport a decent Wolfson DAC), Qualcomm SOCs however usually sport a better baseband/radio than the competition.
I would say, in daily usages, the performances should be negligible, the real impact between both should be battery life related, an early preview done on the Exynos 8890 version claims a 12hrs battery life at maximum brightness on the S7 (not the S7 Edge), I guess we will see how it goes when more reviews come in.
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To sum things up: the Snapdragon 820 sports a better GPU, the Exynos 8890 sports a better CPU and a better DAC (Qualcomm DACs just haven't got the best of reputations, while the Exynos usually sport a decent Wolfson DAC), Qualcomm SOCs however usually sport a better baseband/radio than the competition.
I would say, in daily usages, the performances should be negligible, the real impact between both should be battery life related, an early preview done on the Exynos 8890 version claims a 12hrs battery life at maximum brightness on the S7 (not the S7 Edge), I guess we will see how it goes when more reviews come in.
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No Wolfson this time. It seems Samsung is using an in-house DAC.
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/02/22...ony-imx260-camera-sensor-in-house-audio-chip/
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skivnit said:
Seriously ? Do you even know how ios and android operate ?
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Yes.And its irrelevant.that test is cross platform
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Yes.And its irrelevant.that test is cross platform
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No you dont get it. Android uses multi cores to the fullest thats why multi core performance is the thing to look at, i suggest u read a piece on the subject on Anandtech
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another benchmark between sd 820 and 8890:
www.anandtech.com/show/10075/early-exynos-8890-impressions
i hope the 4 core difference between the two doesn't mean worse performance on the sd 820 variant. Also if you in the EU you will -apparently- be getting the exynos variant :crying:
i also read somewhere that said that the sd 820 had 2x custom (kyro) a-72 cores and 2x custom (kyro) a-53 cores and not 4x cutom (kyro) a-72 cores, hope its not true.
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Yes.And its irrelevant.that test is cross platform
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Quoted from the comments of the article at AnandTech linked above:
It seems perfectly competitive in the graphics benchmarks, and comparing JavaScript benchmarks across different hardware, OS, and browser configurations is useless. To say Apple's Safari team "aggressively optimizes" for Octane and Kraken would be an understatement. Plus we're talking about simple benchmarks that can barely make any use of a second processor core, so of course they make the A9's dual-core CPU design look good next to more parallel competitors. Run something like Geekbench MT or the 3DMark physics test and watch A9 lose out to even Exynos 7420 or SD 810.
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another benchmark between sd 820 and 8890:
www.anandtech.com/show/10075/early-exynos-8890-impressions
i hope the 4 core difference between the two doesn't mean worse performance on the sd 820 variant. Also if you in the EU you will -apparently- be getting the exynos variant :crying:
i also read somewhere that said that the sd 820 had 2x custom (kyro) a-72 cores and 2x custom (kyro) a-53 cores and not 4x cutom (kyro) a-72 cores, hope its not true.
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The s820 has two custom cores and two lower-clocked A53s. It really won't matter that it has two fewer larger cores, as more cores leads to more heat, and more heat to more throttling. Only in benchmarks will it be noticeable.
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The s820 has two custom cores and two lower-clocked A53s.
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Where did you find that the 2 lower clocked are indeed A53s? What I have read, SD820 has 2 high clocked 2.15GHz and 2 low clocked 1.59GHz "Kryo cores"? So those 2 downclocked Kryo cores should be A72 like power not A53?
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Where did you find that the 2 lower clocked are indeed A53s? What I have read, SD820 has 2 high clocked 2.15GHz and 2 low clocked 1.59GHz "Kryo cores"? So those 2 downclocked Kryo cores should be A72 like power not A53?
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Hmm not sure, but pretty sure they aren't the same cores as the faster ones, as that way they could just have clocked them higher, and have them downclock instead of having them at 1.59Ghz all the time.
GFX Bench battery and throttling test of exynos variant. From 2800 frames to 1400 in 10 minutes of load. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=707315&view=findpost&p=47363269
If some1 find snapdragon s7 results, please post it here.
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GFX Bench battery and throttling test of exynos variant. From 2800 frames to 1400 in 10 minutes of load. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=707315&view=findpost&p=47363269
If some1 find snapdragon s7 results, please post it here.
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Ouch i think for sd820 we have to wait a bit since its us and China only
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TANKRED_ENDURES said:
GFX Bench battery and throttling test of exynos variant. From 2800 frames to 1400 in 10 minutes of load. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=707315&view=findpost&p=47363269
If some1 find snapdragon s7 results, please post it here.
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Says the test ran for 220 minutes. EDIT: Okey that was the results of the battery-test. But still where did you get 10 minutes from? If you look at the graphs you can clearly see that it dips only once to 1400 and that was at about the 1200 second mark (20 minutes).
http://www.talkandroid.com/286767-vivo-xplay-5-gets-benchmarked-on-antutu/#more-286767
Vivo Xplay 5 scored around 160k on Antutu and that is with the Snapdragon 820. Think Samsung should have stuck with Qualcomm for all regions this time around. Wish we could get the sd-version here in Europe as well.
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http://www.talkandroid.com/286767-vivo-xplay-5-gets-benchmarked-on-antutu/#more-286767
Vivo Xplay 5 scored around 160k on Antutu and that is with the Snapdragon 820. Think Samsung should have stuck with Qualcomm for all regions this time around. Wish we could get the sd-version here in Europe as well.
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Its probably fake as most of the score comes from GPU which is impossible and then theres 1080p vs qhd screen question
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Throttling looks much better compared to 7420.
They have made GPU wider and lower frequency, also better manufacturin process. Bound to get better compared to 7420.
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Its probably fake as most of the score comes from GPU which is impossible and then theres 1080p vs qhd screen question
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Yes, in latest version of Antutu it gives more priority to onscreen numbers and single core performance. That's why iPhones are at top of chain in Antutu