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A suggestion regarding this forum and 'questions' [POLL]

I've read a few threads here lately where someone asks as question and thereafter gets berated by the members who consider themselves developers for posting a question here. I can totally see their side of the argument since this is a development forum and it makes sense to keep the threads like "Help with my app code" separate from "OMGWFTBBQ!! How do I unbrick my XOOM???". Those people often refer to THE RULES saying it's against them to post questions here and to post in the General section.
I actually don't see that in the rules.
But maybe it should be. I am 'guilty' of posting a question or two here, and I even read the rules first to make sure it was the right place to post. I didn't see anything telling me not to, so I posted here, simply because I feel that the General forum section is for basic questions. In that context, I can see why people do post questions here.
So, I'd like to propose a solution that I think would make everyone happy, and would help clean up this section.
A "XOOM Hacking Help and Advanced XOOM Topics" subforum.
This would be a forum where people could ask all the questions and topics that aren't directly related to the actual development and coding process, but are more advance than most of the topics in the General XOOM subforum.
Would anyone else find this useful?
Also, devs, if there was a forum like this, would you be willing to drop in to answer questions? I know everyone here who is not a developer values your knowledge and helpful insight, which is why people ask questions here in the first place.
Thoughts?

Ive felt a bit of negativity too here. One issue is we don't have a q and a section yet. We are so early in the development cycle for the Xoom. We are building kernels and we don't even have SD slot drivers yet! This is the time for folks to kick back, relax, and enjoy their new toy. I freaking love my xoom! I am so excited for the future of this device. All the fun will come in due time. Relax guys!

I agree. I'm enjoying my XOOM a ton, and I actually visit this section more than any other because I love to see what the great minds here are cooking up for the community. But, I can understand their frustration. They're trying to get their bearings on a new device, but are also getting bombarded with questions that bury topics that are actually related to development. I also agree that some of them go overboard and should take a chill pill. It's not good to have someone get turned off from this forum and its benefits because a dev snapped at them for invading their domain and asking for help.

I voted NO. When there are enough Devs to populate this section, then it will be useful, until then you are only fragmenting the people that make up the community. Until then I would think it best that questions To the devs as well as by devs would be at home here. Many devices never even make it past this point.
I wonder how many people that have developed or are actually developing someting for the Xoom right now, have been the ones to try to enforce said non existent rules.

Yes if your willing to manage moving threads around, because for sure thats whats gonna happen
Generally NO though, In other XDA Development sub forums there are plenty of "OMG I bricked my ..." and plenty of useful developer help... since said bricking, etc usually comes along with installing someone bleeding edge hack.
I understand the want for purity but it will take strict enforcement!

No.
Having a Q&A forum would be nice though to separate all the little questions, especially those that get asked over and over and over..

Wow. Split poll data. lol.
So, I guess the 'devs' should just be nice. Fair enough. Maybe the rules should be updated to reflect what exactly is allowed and/or welcome in this forum.

"Doesn't sound like development to me."

Dev thread in general section or the iron fist effect

Hi,
I really don't understand the pattern behind the allowed post in the dev section.
What I'm understanding is that the dev section is for ROM/Kernel only : when I tried to post a dev-related suggestion,
I was warned that it was wrong, and was threatened (!). Now that iron fist is in effect, I think people are "scared" to post
anything related to dev investigation into the dev section, and now all goes by default into the general section when we
have some doubts. Which creates a new disorder, ironically by trying to force order.
The dev section is now only a collection of <10 alive threads about custom kernel/rom. Not really alive section with thoughtful discussion about general dev ramblings. I've found dev-related threads in the general section (see for instance android arm sdk thread, but there is other cases, I let you find it as an exercise ;-), where someone pointed out the problem "Omg dev thread into a general section !". I think there is a problem.
Because it's really annoying to see the dev section becomes a kind of closed area where you are only allowed to post rom or kernel, and without to be able to think about dev itself. Dev section, as its name points it, must allow to speak about dev related things, whatever are these things. And it's a mess when you want to search something dev-related and find it in the gen section.
Moreover, I don't like the iron fist policy, which threaten people to ban them. Threatening=Terror. Maybe mods are responsible too for this situation, where sometimes there is a lack of clarity. I'm not a newbie, and I've posted wrongly. I consider that there is a mismatch between the subforum name (dev) and the allowed content (rom/kernel only). Or if this is not rom/kernel only, there is a kind of quantic pattern, where you never really know if your post will be accepted or not.
For sake of clarity, I suggest to rename the dev section "custom rom and kernel", and to create a new general dev discussion ; or to open the present dev section to general dev-related discussion, without - please- threatening people to ban them if they are not posting something about custom rom or kernel. Really don't like this way to communicate, it's like mods have forgotten they were newbies some time ago posting in the wrong section. Educating people by threatening them : I don't believe that it works. Whatever.
That was my iron fist on the iron fist.

The development section is for posting actual development not questions about development or asking why eclipse isn't ported to ARM. If you have a development question then there is a question and answer forum. If you want to talk about apps and their development then post in apps and themes. The development section is for the development of roms and kernels and the actual tools for development.
As has been said 100's of times this is not a democracy and this is not for customer service. All anyone has to do is read the forum rules and search a little before posting the same question over and over again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249254
If that thread was actual developing of eclipse on arm then it would be development but its just a poll to see if the developers of eclipse should port it to arm.
HUGE difference

Ok, if this is not a democracy, but a dictature, I have nothing to add.

altsyst said:
Ok, if this is not a democracy, but a dictature, I have nothing to add.
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Familiarize yourself with the following:
FORUM RULES
XDA MANTRA
Another correct breakdown of XDA:
zelendel said:
XDA is a developers site
XDA is a free forum you are ALLOWED to use. We could make it invite only
XDA is and always will be about the developers. And before you say without the users there would be no XDA, Bull****, who do you think used the stuff before normal people even knew what a smartphone was......wait for it.........other developers. People that could give good feedback with relavent info. Not just "dahhh this is broken, please fix".
XDA is not a place to come and make your phone cool.
XDA is not the cool place for idiots to hang out.
XDA is not your friends house
XDA is not a democracy
XDA is not a place to make Money.
XDA IS a place to come to learn and share your knowledge. If you are not here for those reasons then you are here for the wrong ones.
I have watched XDA become a place where every dumbass in the world has a smartphone and comes here thinking they have the right to anything. Well guess what? You dont have the right to ****. We share it because we want to and we dont if we dont feel like it. Are the Developers or the Mods required to make you happy? Nope not in the least. Wanna leave. Go ahead. I beg you, please do. The less people that are asking dumb question cause they dont know what they are doing (this is understand, but at least look) or are too lazy to look for it the better.
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Highly Disappointed

before few days back i have asked xda peoples reg. miui call recorded possibility on other roms
that thread has been locked
can i know the reason
as i have read term and condition truly and then posted that thread
if it is so then can i know what kind of request i should raise against you kind of people
you i know this is the best community i have ever used still

Probably was a question in the general section instead of q & a section...

if you mean this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356454
then yeah you should have posted it in Q & A section not General

dont you think i should be advised before blocking

chauhanjayc1 said:
dont you think i should be advised before blocking
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In fact,the mod,should moved the thread to the right section

You know i sued to move all questions from general to the Q&A forum. then one day i noticed the number of question posted in general was actually rising because people still cant read the rules (HINT) and post in th right section. i realised that by moving poples threads i was doing the thinking for them. so now i lock every thread without warning. then the user either goes and has a look at the rules (HINT and/ or the stickies (HINT) because they realised theyve done something wrong
to sum it up, if you want spoon feeding then you came to the wrong place

[Q] Will edge forums ever be split by carrier?

I know that there is only a limited number of the edge made but I was wondering if this forum will ever be split into carrier specific pages. I now own the AT&T variant coming from the note 4 and feel that our device should be split into separate forums based on carrier like the note 4 is. Us AT&T and Verizon users do not have root and can not use alot of the stuff in delopment section yet or things still to come. Also I feel like we can't start a efficient bounty thread for root not having our own forum. Maybe a moderator can set up forums for different carriers or maybe this is a shot in the dark. Comment if you have an opinion.

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Forum requests go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354
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Gpad F 8.0 request for forum section

I'm hoping this gets found by other Gpad F 8.0 owners.
I sent the following request to a moderator here:
Hello... I'm hoping you're someone I can submit this request to.
I have an LG Gpad F 8.0, and like a lot of Glad F 8.0 owners, we are finidng that some of the things in the 8.3 forum do not work for us. If you Google search "XDA LG Gpad F 8.0" you will find a number of threads. Some of them have become "catch-all" threads where a variety of questions are asked and we have to hunt through many pages before we find replies. Some questions even get lost in the middle of a larger discussion.
It makes sense that at this point we have our own section to better organize this information, and that is what I'm requesting.
I have been using XDA now since 2007 and its strongest advantage has been thoroughly organized information. I hope we can extend that to the Gpad F 8.0 owners since at this point there are a lot of us.
Thanks,
S
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So... I'm hoping we can get out of the 8.3 community's hair and get our own spot. I personally need information about my device and after reading a handful of big threads with random discussions, I'm still confused as to a couple of things. I was going to ask in one of those threads but it occurred to me I didn't know which thread to use since most of them are mixed questions.
So rather than post the same question in multiple threads I realized we really do need our own section. There is a fair amount of information now about our device and it would be better organized in a section with separate threads. Would make web searches easier, too.
I encourage you all who agree with this to contact a moderator to try to get our Gpad F 8.0 its own dedicated section. Thanks

I know AT&T was offering them for a dollar plus connection costs, and I hear now they are free with line connection. So i expect there are a lot more out there than we know. A dedicated section will bring them in. If moderators agree and help to do this, I will gladly organize some of the info into a FAQ thread.

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Suleeto said:
I know AT&T was offering them for a dollar plus connection costs, and I hear now they are free with line connection. So i expect there are a lot more out there than we know. A dedicated section will bring them in. If moderators agree and help to do this, I will gladly organize some of the info into a FAQ thread.
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Thanks so much for starting this section. i have one of these tablets i traded for and while i like it, there is so much that can be improved on it once we can obtain a recovery and remove the att bloatware. i am using defensemobile as a carrier and cannot use it as a hotspot or tether due to not having a att account. that is my most important peeve with the tablet. hopefully we will start seeing some progress with developement as there is virtually nothing available at this time. i am pretty sure there are a lot of them out there. once again, thanks.

There is a Forum HERE for this.
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