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One week with the Redmi Note 4

Received my RN4 last week, and after spending a week with it I am definitely impressed.
Observations
1. Battery life is the phone's strongest suit. Can definitely get even better SOT if I was more careful using this thing, but fact is this is the first phone I've owned that I only need to charge once a day. (See attachment for SOT)
2. Build quality is solid as well, but definitely not top notch. Seams can still felt, and SIM tray is a bit hard to push in.
3. Display is great. Nothing out of the ordinary.
4. Helio X20 is a solid chip, but Javascript performance is underwhelming. Does not appear to have many benefits over the SD650.
5. Camera is underwhelming, quality is around the level of the Moto X 2014, but PD focus is quick and accurate, unlike the CDAF on the X14.
6. MIUI is not as intrusive as most Western media will have you believe, but I do not like the aggressiveness with which it kills background processes. GSam Battery monitor doesnt work reliably as it always gets kicked.
7. One handed usage is poor. The next model could definitely use smaller bezels on the X axis.
8. I got an update last week for "bug fixes", but was strangely 1.3GB big and took over an hour to download and install.
Overall, for $200, I'm definitely impressed. Can't say I feel a noticeable performance difference with my last phone, the Galaxy S7. Only place I can feel I got what I paired for is the camera.

AB__CD said:
Received my RN4 last week, and after spending a week with it I am definitely impressed.
Observations
1. Battery life is the phone's strongest suit. Can definitely get even better SOT if I was more careful using this thing, but fact is this is the first phone I've owned that I only need to charge once a day. (See attachment for SOT)
2. Build quality is solid as well, but definitely not top notch. Seams can still felt, and SIM tray is a bit hard to push in.
3. Display is great. Nothing out of the ordinary.
4. Helio X20 is a solid chip, but Javascript performance is underwhelming. Does not appear to have many benefits over the SD650.
5. Camera is underwhelming, quality is around the level of the Moto X 2014, but PD focus is quick and accurate, unlike the CDAF on the X14.
6. MIUI is not as intrusive as most Western media will have you believe, but I do not like the aggressiveness with which it kills background processes. GSam Battery monitor doesnt work reliably as it always gets kicked.
7. One handed usage is poor. The next model could definitely use smaller bezels on the X axis.
8. I got an update last week for "bug fixes", but was strangely 1.3GB big and took over an hour to download and install.
Overall, for $200, I'm definitely impressed. Can't say I feel a noticeable performance difference with my last phone, the Galaxy S7. Only place I can feel I got what I paired for is the camera.
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Thanks for the feedback, I also have an S7 and on the verge of selling to buy either the note 4 or the redmi pro. I know it will generally be a downgrade especially in terms of camera as nothing can touch the S7. But it seems a great device and would let me free up some cash. The redmi pro seems to have a better camera than the RN4 although a bit gimmicky with its dual cams, but both pack nice builds and big batteries. Although I think the RN4's finger print scanner looks better and is in a better location, I'm not really that impressed with the S7's as it still needs to be pushed and isn't that accurate. How do you find audio quality over say a pair of headphones compared to the S7?
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gsmyth said:
Thanks for the feedback, I also have an S7 and on the verge of selling to buy either the note 4 or the redmi pro. I know it will generally be a downgrade especially in terms of camera as nothing can touch the S7. But it seems a great device and would let me free up some cash. The redmi pro seems to have a better camera than the RN4 although a bit gimmicky with its dual cams, but both pack nice builds and big batteries. Although I think the RN4's finger print scanner looks better and is in a better location, I'm not really that impressed with the S7's as it still needs to be pushed and isn't that accurate. How do you find audio quality over say a pair of headphones compared to the S7?
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Very loud, and decently clean and crisp too. There seems to be some decent audio equipment on this thing, both speakers and headphone, and I suspect there may be a discrete DAC on this, impressive for a $200 device. I went for the RN4 over the Pro for one reason and one reason only: there is an official global ROM out for this phone, while the Pro would require me to install GP package through a third-party solution.
I can definitely say that the FPS is way better on the back. Very accurate, and as long as I don't give it some super-weird angle it authenticates me without fail, quicker and more accurately than the S7.

AB__CD said:
Very loud, and decently clean and crisp too. There seems to be some decent audio equipment on this thing, both speakers and headphone, and I suspect there may be a discrete DAC on this, impressive for a $200 device. I went for the RN4 over the Pro for one reason and one reason only: there is an official global ROM out for this phone, while the Pro would require me to install GP package through a third-party solution.
I can definitely say that the FPS is way better on the back. Very accurate, and as long as I don't give it some super-weird angle it authenticates me without fail, quicker and more accurately than the S7.
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Great that's good to hear, I assumed there was a global rom for the pro but must have been something else I seen. I had a feeling the finger print scanner was better, I do find the S7's quite fussy and a lot of times I exceed the try limit and have to wait 30 secs[emoji34].
I really do appreciate the camera on the S7, although from the reviews I've watched the RN4 seems to have very quick auto focus and capture speeds. It obviously seems to suffer in low light but no phone is immune from this really only to lesser extents. I generally take most photos outside in good conditions anyway and usually of the kids where a quick shutter is needed. The camera app also seems fast to launch as well which again is an important to be able to snap photos quickly.
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Wich rom are you using? Do you root it?

gsmyth said:
Great that's good to hear, I assumed there was a global rom for the pro but must have been something else I seen. I had a feeling the finger print scanner was better, I do find the S7's quite fussy and a lot of times I exceed the try limit and have to wait 30 secs[emoji34].
I really do appreciate the camera on the S7, although from the reviews I've watched the RN4 seems to have very quick auto focus and capture speeds. It obviously seems to suffer in low light but no phone is immune from this really only to lesser extents. I generally take most photos outside in good conditions anyway and usually of the kids where a quick shutter is needed. The camera app also seems fast to launch as well which again is an important to be able to snap photos quickly.
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Fingerprint scanner really is great. Worlds better than the S7. Location isn't always ideal for when the phone is on a table top, but it is great when pulling the phone out of the pocket. I suspect that the only way to solve this is give people two Fingerprint scanners
Camera launches quickly and focus is reliable. Better than my 2014 Moto X ever was. Shutter is not as fast as the reviews make it out to be, but that may be because I have HDR on Auto, and HDR photos do take a while to process. Outside photos are reasonably crisp, inside the noise starts to become uncontrollable. Remember to go to Settings and select image quality "High" and enable "Enhance lowlight pictures automatically" when you get this phone. Hugely important, as the default Medium setting is too aggressive in compressing.

AB__CD said:
Received my RN4 last week, and after spending a week with it I am definitely impressed.
Observations
1. Battery life is the phone's strongest suit. Can definitely get even better SOT if I was more careful using this thing, but fact is this is the first phone I've owned that I only need to charge once a day. (See attachment for SOT)
2. Build quality is solid as well, but definitely not top notch. Seams can still felt, and SIM tray is a bit hard to push in.
3. Display is great. Nothing out of the ordinary.
4. Helio X20 is a solid chip, but Javascript performance is underwhelming. Does not appear to have many benefits over the SD650.
5. Camera is underwhelming, quality is around the level of the Moto X 2014, but PD focus is quick and accurate, unlike the CDAF on the X14.
6. MIUI is not as intrusive as most Western media will have you believe, but I do not like the aggressiveness with which it kills background processes. GSam Battery monitor doesnt work reliably as it always gets kicked.
7. One handed usage is poor. The next model could definitely use smaller bezels on the X axis.
8. I got an update last week for "bug fixes", but was strangely 1.3GB big and took over an hour to download and install.
Overall, for $200, I'm definitely impressed. Can't say I feel a noticeable performance difference with my last phone, the Galaxy S7. Only place I can feel I got what I paired for is the camera.
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I have been using RN4 for 2 weeks. And I do agree most of the views.
1. Battery: it seems not that good if you care about the numbers. But the overall performance is pretty good. Playing some 3d games with performance for an hour costs less than 10%.
2. CPU: I don't think this is a big leap as I can't from Nexus 5. The performance is not overkill. And I don't feel anything is super smooth. I guess the reason is that 10 cores are still to much for an Android system to operate with. I doubt the kernel fully utilizes the CPU.
3. Camera: don't expect much on it even though they claimed it's 16MP. The quality is quite glitchy in my opinion. If you really care about the quality of the camera on your phone, consider carefully. Despite the quality, the speed is fine as the focus, HDR and burst mode work perfectly fine.
4. MIUI: I just want a CM. That's it.
5. Price: this is the most pulling reason for me to buy this. You can just switch to a new one if this breaks somehow. :laugh:

Hello.
My name is Gabriel, from Romania.
I have a redminote 4 since 25 october 2016.
Since yesterday it doesn't display, in the upper right corner, the icon for mobile data - you know, the H, or H+, or 4G or 3G, next to mobile network signal icon.
The mobile data connection is working good, but the fact that the phone is connected to mobile data is not displayed any more.
Is there any setting for this?
Thanks.

Gabriel Sbircea said:
Hello.
My name is Gabriel, from Romania.
I have a redminote 4 since 25 october 2016.
Since yesterday it doesn't display, in the upper right corner, the icon for mobile data - you know, the H, or H+, or 4G or 3G, next to mobile network signal icon.
The mobile data connection is working good, but the fact that the phone is connected to mobile data is not displayed any more.
Is there any setting for this?
Thanks.
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Did you solve this? Are you on the global rom?
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No.
I had the intention to perform a factory reset during this weekend, but I didn't, I was too busy with other things.
And yes, is the Global ROM - I have Romanian language (not only...)
Thanks.

Gabriel Sbircea said:
No.
I had the intention to perform a factory reset during this weekend, but I didn't, I was too busy with other things.
And yes, is the Global ROM - I have Romanian language (not only...)
Thanks.
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A factory reset is probably the best option take first although it is a pain having to backup/ set everything up again.
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Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 video review

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Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 video review
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Thanks will watch this later.
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gsmyth said:
Did you solve this? Are you on the global rom?
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Hello
I have black screen with my Redmi Note 4 but led of charge work have you some ideas how can i solve this issue?
Thanks

2 weeks here...
I bought the Redmi Note 4 - S625 32 GB version as a replacement for another phone from another vendor, my old phone had the same hardware configuration, but was greatly lagging on performance, battery life and customization.
I have long decided on the Redmi, and have gone through several resources and reviews online, and was so far satisfied with what I read.
I was able to buy it at a discounted price in Egypt (USD 160), this is of course not a bargain for the global price, yet locally it was good compared to other similar devices.
I'll go through every aspect of my experience with the phone and provide you with my conclusion in the end.
The phone comes in a small box compared to other phones of the same size, the phone fits in exactly, with the charger and the charging cable, the extra space could've been better used to add earphones to the bundle, something Xiaomi should consider in the future, is to throw in one of their premium earphones.
The phone size is slim and nice to hold, something that counts for it, considering the huge 4100mA battery, I was unfortunate to buy the black edition, which is very prone to fingerprints and you can never keep it clean, let alone it also seemed scratch prone, I didn't want to risk it therefore the first thing I had to do was to go for a silicon cover.
Also the screen glass is clear with smooth edges, and gives the phone a very elegant look, yet I read it's not gorilla glass, so I had to go for a glass screen protector.
The screen is large enough with some bevel edges that could be improved in the future.
The dual SIM slot is an amazing idea, yet with a bit of better design I guess we can squeeze in a place for a memory card.
The camera and fingerprint sensor are very well placed and nice to use, having the camera non-protruding is a good design point, protecting the camera cover from scratches.
I don't mind the camera being 13MP, it has a clear quality, works well with the camera app, and is quiet responsive, I've seen cameras with higher resolution, but were a pain to operate, so good job Xiaomi.
The screen is clear and pleasant to use, I have even use it to watch movies using a VR box with no problems, it is also quiet visible in the sun with bright colors.
One thing I really liked about this phone, is its battery life, I guess Xiaomi went to great effort to squeeze much power into the battery space, and to optimize the power use by applications, clearly there is a power optimization software layer added to the OS to perform this well, I am a heavy user, having the phone in hand all day with the screen on, reading, watching videos, and streaming internet videos and music in the car all day, using maps and GPS applications, and acting as a Wi-Fi hotspot. Still at night, before sleeping, I plug the charger while the phone is at 40%, keeping me assured that even if I forget to charge the phone, it will remain there for another day of moderate use. BATTERY LIFE ON THIS PHONE IS AMAZING.
I have seen people complain that it doesn’t have a fast charging capability, yet it's no problem with a phone that can withhold its charge for two days.
The good thing about this phone is that it has all connectivity features of other similar phones, except for the NFC, which is becoming a defacto nowadays, though the FM radio is good and launches without any headphone connected, however the lack of RDS is a bit annoying, in addition to the fact that the radio interface is boring and non-themeable, I have posted this suggestion in the MIUI forum.
Software performance on this phone is amazing, and the dual app capability is extra nice, it is better than having the second space activated, specially with the availability of individual app locking capability, I can have my work and personal applications in the same space, while giving my work applications the necessary security level required. This beats all other phones offering second space while hogging the memory and system resources, and affecting the performance.
Also Xiaomi's keeping to its promise of a very responsive MIUI, even with an alternative launcher (I'll come to that later), I'm getting a very good performance, no launch delays, no botchy performance, etc... Which shows that enough effort has been put into OS optimization.
I haven't tried installing a custom OS yet, and this is mainly due to the fact that the factory OS is very well performing and doesn't need further optimization, till now!!
I had to resort to installing a third party launcher (Nova Launcher), since I didn't really like the way MIUI launcher treats the applications, without an application drawer, desktops can become really cluttered, specially that I always test new apps and remove them regularly. This may be convenient for iPhone users, but a no no in our Android world, Xiaomi should reconsider.
A nice addition to the UI is the floating ball, it comes with useful shortcuts, but to change them you have to dig deep into the settings, certainly there should be a better way to do this, still it is a good addition.
The screenshot shortcut saves a shot of the current screen and can later send you to the editing part if you need to crop and edit your shot, it would be better if a crop control can appear when a screenshot is requested, so that we can directly choose which part of the screen we want to capture and share directly.
The phone came with android marshmallow, but as soon as I started using it, a new update with nougat was pushed, I also guess and Oreo version in in the pipeline, still you can have the Oreo taste from any custom rom available for this phone, which are really numerous in comparison to phones from other vendors, I guess Xiaomi should capitalize on this as being one of the most custom ROM friendly phones.
The phone, contacts, and messaging native aps are quiet usable, and so far I haven't faced any problem with them, in comparison to other phones that sometimes struggled with my 1500 entry contact list, the Xiaomi is fully capable of handling such a contact list dispersed among two contact providers (google contact and exchange server), and fully capable of flawlessly handling them.
One small glitch with the messaging app is the inability to delete the newly received SMS from the notification area, something that is usually needed nowadays.
Coming to the notification area, I've seen it better implemented in other phones or ROM versions, where you can get full access to the complete message, and be able control it (delete or reply) from the notification area, I know that in MIUI there is the capability to expand the notification for more details by a two finger swipe, but this is impossible with one handed operation.
The phone also comes with nice extra applications, the security app is quiet useful, and hopefully it does what it promises in the background.
The remote app is also a great addition, making you able to control a vast list of IR enabled devices; yet it should be a good addition to be able to add and customize new non-listed devices, such as for example non-standard android tv boxes.
In conclusion:
I really love this phone and don't regret the investment I put in it, Xiaomi is on a very good track, it should soon reach and surpass market leaders if it keeps building such impressive devices with affordable prices, also having that MIUI forum and its community is a good addition of keeping the users close to the vendor.
My recommendation is to work on the software enhancements requested by the users.
My recommendations to the new buyers, is to install good screen and body protection, stay away from the black version, and invest in a good quality headphones to enjoy your Xiaomi.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the , all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

My short review of redmi K20 Pro / Mi 9T Pro in croatian language (there are video and photo samples): https://android.bswireless.hr/2019/09/xiaomi-mi-9t-pro-odnosno-redmi-k20-pro-najpovoljniji-mobitel-s-najbrzim-snapdragon-procesorom/

I've had and used this device (9T Pro 6/128 Black, M1903F11G) for a bit over a week now. My previous phone was almost 5 years old (HTC M8), so for me this is a huge upgrade in every way. It is fast and beautiful and takes great pictures even in difficult conditions. Finally I have an AMOLED screen again and it is gorgeous.
I have not unlocked, rooted, modded the device yet. Running MiUI 10.3.3.0 PFKEUXM. I plan to keep it stock for a month or so just to make sure that any gripes I might have with MiUI are not just a matter of getting used to. I will probably put Lineage OS on it.
All in all I love the device a lot. It looks good and feels good in the hand. I have not used other modern devices, so I can't really compare. Instead I will list nags / negative things, then you can decide whether these are things you care about.
- Pop-up camera.
This feels like it would be a weak point, as it is the only moving part. It probably also makes it less dust and water proof.
I don't use face unlock and I don't take selfies, so I don't care too much about this. I like that the screen has no notch in it.
- It does not have stereo speakers.
Dual front facing speakers on the M8 were much better, but came at a cost of screen real estate.
I care about this a little bit, but for media I mostly use headphones anyway and for alarms, notifications, etc.. this does not matter.
- Finger print scanner response is inconsistent.
Most of the time it works very quickly (less than half a second) but sometimes it takes longer or I have to lift my finger and try again.
This is my first device with FPS so maybe this is normal. I like the idea of FPS on the back (Motorola, LG, ...) but I can't tell from experience whether this is actually better.
- The FM radio has no RDS and the reception is not very good.
I am probably one of the few people that care about FM radio.
- Lack of SD card slot
...but with 128GB internal storage that should not be a problem. On other devices that did have SD card slots I have always used them to expand internal storage, never as removable storage.

love it!

touch of jobo said:
This is my first device with FPS so maybe this is normal. I like the idea of FPS on the back (Motorola, LG, ...) but I can't tell from experience whether this is actually better.
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I had a fingerprint scanner on the back on my previous phone and this is one of the main reason I wanted to switch to a phone with a fingerprint scanner under the screen.
I use my phone a lot at work and most of time it’s lying on the desk, so each time I wanted to either use my phone, check message/mails or anything else, I had to grab the phone and put my finger on the back in order to unlock it and that was very inconvenient, especially when you do this 50/100 times a day.
Now I only have to put my finger on the screen and that’s it, don’t even have to move the phone, I like it much better, even though fingerprint scanner under the screen is not as quick as the one on the back.

Love it. I handed some devices with notch and I couldn't stand it. It may look strange but even the asymmetric bezels in mi 9t pro hurts my brain. Lol.

Switched from a Huawei P20 Lite to European MI 9T PRO and it's a huge improvement.
PRO's
- no notch
- better display
- updated hardware (resolves tasks much faster)
- better camera
- larger battery
CON's
- no expandable memory
- MIUI still strange to me (would've loved stock like OnePlus)
Overall I love it
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In the middle of switching from a Mi Max 3. Not fully switching until I can unlock and root it.
Pluses -
LIttle bit faster than the Max but not enough that I'd not go back.
Better camera.
Cons -
No sd slot. First phone I've had without and not sure I like it.
Tiny screen. The Max series has been perfect for me and this is a major decider as to whether I keep it as I read a lot of pdfs and movie watching.
Unknown - battery life. Tiny battery in comparison and I'm used to 13+ hrs SOT so this could be another decider.
Meh - amoled isn't as much of an improvement as I'd been expecting after 2 years with lcd.

Had a zte zmax pro for years... talk about an upgrade! i did days of research, and continuously went up and up the chain of cost until I felt like I landed at the sweet spot for price and modern performance with the Mi 9T Pro. Just before ordering I realized AMOLED has "OLED" in it :highfive:. I live in the US so after showing coworkers they were shocked. One even commented how they basically paid 3 times as much for a phone that is similar (at best) than mine. Yup :victory:
Overall am amazed by the quality and performance as you can imagine. Now just looking for a daily driver to stick with. So far MIUI isn't bad, but I'd like to see whats out there. Thanks to the devs who continue to work on what they love, and allow us to use our devices to their fullest potential.

Love it too

all I need is no notch and it does , that's all

For the price, phone is really great . It's super fast, quality is good. My main complaint is lack of sd card slot, but it's not really big problem

Switching away from MI A1. Which phone to go for next?

Hi,
I think it is kinda my fault, but this is the second time my screen broke from just 6 inch drop. And last service centre kinda screwed up the back panel so now camera gets dirty from inside.
Now, I am thinking instead of fixing the screen and back panel again, it is better to move to new device. Obviously Android one is a priority but not a big deal. I want to just find a phone with super fast charging and decent cpu for less than 20k INR. Couldn't give a crap about camera or selfies to be honest. So, I am focusing on oppo r17 pro and vivo v15 for now. Although I heard about mi's 100w charging. Is there any phone with that tech coming out in next few weeks? I guess I can hold off on the purchase till next month easy.
Anyway point is, I am looking for suggestions on a better phone to switch to. Something that doesn't bother with cameras and focuses on raw power or battery instead.

I'm looking at the Mi9 at this point. My Mi A1 is on the verge of unusable now. Battery still drains 30 to 40% overnight since android Pie and now my on-/off-button has decided to open my camera most of the time or just do nothing the remainder of the time. My GPS seems to always think that I'm driving on top of buildings or just doesn't find a signal. Apps like Google Maps have become so laggy that I can't even type text in the search bar.
Android Pie really ruined this device for me.

I would go for Pocophone f1.

I'd suggest the Mi 9t, or wait for the Mi Max 4.

My A1 is still perfectly fine, but I keep an eye open for a possible replacement. Android One and easy bootloader unlocking is a must for me, so this rules out almost all manufacturers. Nokia looks promising, but their stupid policy with bootloader unlocking prohibits any custom development. Pixel 3a is just a bit too expensive and doesn't have a SD card slot. I guess I'll just wait for Mi A3.. If I wouldn't care about root and related stuff, I would surely pick something from Nokia line.

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I'd suggest the Mi 9t, or wait for the Mi Max 4.
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Why the Mi 9t? I feel like it's not as good as the Mi 9. What makes you move in that direction?

The issue is that price of phones are getting higher and higher everywhere... I first thought I would not buy Xiaomi anymore, but now when my A1 dies I'm thinking Mi A2 or hopefully A3 by then, if it's not too expensive (or A2/3 lite).
Android One is a must for me, I don't want any MIUI sh*t on my phone

denisval said:
Why the Mi 9t? I feel like it's not as good as the Mi 9. What makes you move in that direction?
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Because he stated under 20k?? (400aud)

denisval said:
I'm looking at the Mi9 at this point. My Mi A1 is on the verge of unusable now. Battery still drains 30 to 40% overnight since android Pie
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mine drain 1-3% maxim overnight.
i think will be better if you found the source of consume and optimize your phone.

denisval said:
I'm looking at the Mi9 at this point. My Mi A1 is on the verge of unusable now. Battery still drains 30 to 40% overnight since android Pie and now my on-/off-button has decided to open my camera most of the time or just do nothing the remainder of the time. My GPS seems to always think that I'm driving on top of buildings or just doesn't find a signal. Apps like Google Maps have become so laggy that I can't even type text in the search bar.
Android Pie really ruined this device for me.
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I'm looking at the Mi 9T right now. It's so damn hot. My Mi A1 is usable but not suitable for my developer stuff. Battery is OK, surprisingly no issues there. My power button is also nearly unusable, double or triple clicks 80% of the time, I feel your pain. My GPS also doesn't work like at all. It takes so much time to lock, it just constantly shows that I'm in my house, when I'm for example driving on a trip, 200+ KM away from my home city. In these moments it doesn't even know it doesn't work and sometimes it takes so long to lock location (I'm talking 10+ minutes) that I just end up asking someone else to give me their phone to check where am I. The device isn't laggy overall but the eMMC write speed has degraded 2-3 times and sometimes I get a significant stutter (unusable point) for something like 1-2 minutes until it fixes itself and continues working as usual.
Overall pretty great as a 1.5 year old budget phone, my past experiences have been worse. I'm looking into the Mi 9T.

_mysiak_ said:
My A1 is still perfectly fine, but I keep an eye open for a possible replacement. Android One and easy bootloader unlocking is a must for me, so this rules out almost all manufacturers. Nokia looks promising, but their stupid policy with bootloader unlocking prohibits any custom development. Pixel 3a is just a bit too expensive and doesn't have a SD card slot. I guess I'll just wait for Mi A3.. If I wouldn't care about root and related stuff, I would surely pick something from Nokia line.
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Couldn't agree more.
I'm waiting for Mi A3/A3Lite but I'm afraid I'm going to lose some of the features that made me "fell in love" with MI A1:
-Optical zoom
-SD card
-FM radio
-3,5 mm jack
-easy unlock method
-selling price <220$ (200€)
If Xiaomi will make a 2019 mid-range smartphone with these features (and possibly add some useful stuff like OIS or wide-angle camera) I'm going to buy it at day one.
But I don't think it's gonna happen

ZenFone 6 looks great. Fairly stock and amazing top specs

alsheron said:
ZenFone 6 looks great. Fairly stock and amazing top specs
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500€ here in Italy. I won't spend over 250€ for a phone.

For €250 you can either buy used phone or something from Xiaomi, Meizu and similar companies that sell cheap phones. If you like to put Custom ROM, look for a phone with good dev support.
I don't know, maybe RN7 Pro if you can get it...Or wait for Mi A3, it should be awesome phone and price is speculated to be around 280 USD which is around 250 Euros.

_mysiak_ said:
My A1 is still perfectly fine, but I keep an eye open for a possible replacement. Android One and easy bootloader unlocking is a must for me, so this rules out almost all manufacturers. Nokia looks promising, but their stupid policy with bootloader unlocking prohibits any custom development. Pixel 3a is just a bit too expensive and doesn't have a SD card slot. I guess I'll just wait for Mi A3.. If I wouldn't care about root and related stuff, I would surely pick something from Nokia line.
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Personal Advice: Don't get a Nokia phone. I thought the new Nokia keep their phones overpriced because you're paying for quality and support. Not the case. I recommended Nokia phones to a few relatives, all got problems. Ranging from not charging from time to time, to much bigger stuff like not receiving notifications from messaging at all, even resetting the device and disabling battery optimization.
Many may disagree with me but Nokia phones, even ones part of Android One, are in fact NOT stock Android. It looks like Stock Android but it doesn't *feel* that way. There are soo many changes under-the-hood, the phone works worse than it should with "stock" Android. The software, as pure as it is, has sooo many glitches and I just don't know why. Updates fix and break things constantly. How can you mess up stock Android?! How does that even happen?!
At least in my opinion, Nokia phones from HMD Global bring tons of headaches and aren't reliable at all. Add the ultra high prices for what you get and it becomes the brand to avoid in all cases. Better just get another Android One. The best Android One phone right now IMO is the Motorola One Vision. Performance is little on the weaker side but is still 2x better than Snapdragon 625 and not much worse than a Pixel 3a. Otherwise the phone has an SD card slot, really solid cameras (again, subjective but photos seem excellent to my eye), good battery life, super attractive design with that hole punch, 21:9 screen and the ergonomic body and all that comes for a price right around 300 Euro (even less in some markets).

Thanks for the advice and warning. I will check Motorola in more details, just hope that it isn't as big as other Motorolas which I was considering before (at least I remember them being large ). Mi A1 is probably the biggest form factor which I accept. In fact I would prefer smaller phone, but such aren't really being produced anymore (or they're so crippled in HW that it doesn't make sense to buy them).

_mysiak_ said:
Thanks for the advice and warning. I will check Motorola in more details, just hope that it isn't as big as other Motorolas which I was considering before (at least I remember them being large ). Mi A1 is probably the biggest form factor which I accept. In fact I would prefer smaller phone, but such aren't really being produced anymore (or they're so crippled in HW that it doesn't make sense to buy them).
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Mi9 SE is a very good phone and it's not so big, but it lacks 3.5mm Jack and SD card. And it's not Android One.

_mysiak_ said:
Thanks for the advice and warning. I will check Motorola in more details, just hope that it isn't as big as other Motorolas which I was considering before (at least I remember them being large ). Mi A1 is probably the biggest form factor which I accept. In fact I would prefer smaller phone, but such aren't really being produced anymore (or they're so crippled in HW that it doesn't make sense to buy them).
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I have checked the One Vision in person and compared to my Mi A1 it's even smaller. It's the same height but it's narrower.

Vision one looked fine, until I found this post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/one-vision/help/restart-unlock-t3933674
I know that many phones have bugs, especially soon after their release, but bootloop just because of using fingerprint unlock or changing the default USB mode is a show stopper for me.
I will check the development progress from time to time, hopefully there will be TWRP and Magisk available soon and fixes to stock ROM. Luckily I am in no hurry to move from A1 at the moment, so I'll wait for A3 as well.

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Vision one looked fine, until I found this post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/one-vision/help/restart-unlock-t3933674
I know that many phones have bugs, especially soon after their release, but bootloop just because of using fingerprint unlock or changing the default USB mode is a show stopper for me.
I will check the development progress from time to time, hopefully there will be TWRP and Magisk available soon and fixes to stock ROM. Luckily I am in no hurry to move from A1 at the moment, so I'll wait for A3 as well.
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Come on! It's just one minor bug, don't act like A1 didn't have like million of these. It will surely be fixed in the next update. The One Vision is a great phone and I personally think Mi A series don't have anything to impress me anymore. In fact my next phone is NOT going to be an Android One. I'm more of a Xiaomi fanboy, so I'll go with the Mi 9T. I love MIUI, as weird as it sounds. But for people who need stock, I still recommend the One Vision.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Redmi Note 8 Pro, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Redmi Note 8 Pro is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I love my RN7,now falling in love in my RN8 pro..
It's amazing..and yes.. you can love your phone ?

Love speed, camera, battery. For me personally it's far better then my former phone (Mi Mix 2s)
Little cons:
- notification LED is far too small
- backside is too slippery (I won't use it without a case)

Display.. this is the perfect size and I love this phone..
Battery.. ?

I have ordered the phone 6/128 variant, will get tomorrow or day after. I'm excited but worrisome about the camera result at the same time. Let's see

Mine should also arrive tomorrow. I went with 6/64 variant, but that's good enough for me. Will report after a couple of days of use.

This is a really good phone at a really good price.

I just love the battery charging speed in this price segment.

I got my phone today and reading mode is turned off still at night, my display seems yellowish.
Check the screenshot.

This phone is everything I expected and more. The only few cons are overshadowed by it's price. Guess everyone was wrong about G90T. No oveeheating, smooth peeformance all the way. Also... more than decent primary shooter, great battery life,... Glad I went for this over P20 Lite. And cheaper too. Now only thing left is the wait until MIUI 11.

my good old Samsung Note 4 broke down, now I also have a Redmi Note 8 Pro, I love the phone too xD

Phone is awesome

Note 8 Pro Love
Had my phone a couple of days - upgraded from redmi note 7. So far loving it, seems really quick and glad to now have NFC. Face unlock is very quick and the main camera seems to be good - more testing needed though. Only annoying thing is lack of HD playback on Netflix.
Ian

I like this phone. Good quality, very fast, and battery life is amazing. My biggest downfall is lacking immediate bootloader unlock and lack of ROMs. I am hoping this phone will become more free and capable of customization.

The phone is really good and fast, apart from few problems, everything else is love. Camera is having some real issues and those for sure are due to software. Hardware for the main camera is the same as Realme XT then why improved video quality for XT? Xiaomi needs to improve the camera software so that you can rate this phone 10/10.

USA version that works with AT&T
Can any verify if RN8 / Pro will support AT&T LTE?

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Can any verify if RN8 / Pro will support AT&T LTE?
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If your carrier have LTE, phone support it.
I have 4G+ with my provider. Telenor

By far the best 230$ I've ever spent on a device. Just updated to miui 11 they def made some great improvements. My gf has a big gig note 9 she's like I want a RN8 pro her daughter has a S8 plus she's ordering one today. The camera and fluidness with this phone is amazing. Say what you want but this mediatek soc gets things done. There's rumors of a SD 730g series RN 8 pro but it's not going to happen it's a rumor so people are waiting for that variant to come out. Lol enjoy your wait.

Hello! Do you have information when the pixel experience firmware comes out on Redmi Note 8 Pro?

Bought it online China set China rom with installed Google 8/126, tried to find indian version due to dedicated sd card but not available. Previously owns mi max prime with global rom and it was easy to play with because google is available.
With RN8P china set/rom i had to explore deeply especially when using the browser which automatically give us several option either using baidu or sm (dun know what is this). Even cant use in app purchase at first which makes me feel little disappointed and ready to unlock and install global rom :laugh: and already download the software to start the operation
Luckily, after exploring in the phone i can change the browser in english permanently (unless i reset it) and also watched in youtube how to enable in app purchase if using china rom.
Now i feel happy because the replacement of my loyal mi max prime is up to my standard
Camera: Excellent with lot of option (i'm not expert but it looks great) dont need gcam...for now
Speed/Charging: Fast response
Network: Sometime I've got 4+ even though my line is supporting up to 4g only
Memory: Great, 126gb is my minimum standard requirement, can expand it using sd card
Keyboard: I'm using xperia
Gaming: Not a fan for heavy games for android. Got only Clash of Clans and Candy Crush...yeah just 2:laugh: but kind noticed the changing in temperature at back body.
Sound: Loud and clear, need to memorized that the ear speaker hole is just at the top edge
Processor: MTK? SD? nah....i'm not an expert
Satisfaction: Human never satisfied..just call it enough to sustain at least 2 years from now

OnePlus 8 discussion, what are you hoping and not hoping for.

I'm surprised I haven't seen any discussion regarding the OnePlus 8. The 7 Pro being my first ever device outside of Samsung universe, I'm extremely impressed and really want to carry on using OnePlus, even though they don't sell in my country ( Australia ) and I have to import it.
I am hoping that the rumoured punch hole display is not real, the screen being completely hole-less is one of the main reasons I change from Samsung over, I am not a fan. Even though I feel like it's true, I'm praying it doesn't have one
What are you most excited for, and not excited for?

Flat screen, but we pretty much know that's not happening for the 8/Pro. 8 Lite is the only one rumored to have a flat screen. Punch hole is annoying, though I don't see it as any more annoying than the notch as long as there's a way to hide it from games, apps, etc like you could on previous models.

Light version means light in hardware. For me all the Lite phones are creap.
Not edge to edge screen is Bleahhhh !
8 pro will have wifi charging and better camera. Issue will be the price!
I would like edge to edge, flat screen. Curved screen is nonsense. 5g works in my network so i don't need wifi (i use it Very rare), bluetooth, nfc, infrared (Never use those). I like a square corners phone. A lighter slim phone.

If the hole punch is on all Oneplus 8 variants then I'm really not interested at all. I'll probably stick with 7pro until another manufacture releases a stockish android experience, with nothing on the screen except screen, and at least 90hz refresh rate, and a decent development community. Oh and under $650 so that counts out pixels to.

My progressive desires: a refined pop-up camera, 90Hz standard refresh rate, anywhere from 8-12GB RAM, latest version of UFS (3.1 I believe), the latest amoled panel from big producers (Samsung especially), continued iterations of OxygenOS, better cameras over time, no 3.5mm jack, a card slot (or 256gb/512gb/1tb storage options that still retain good pricing), Ultrasonic ID fingerprint reader, higher wattage fast charging (like SuperVOOC), no wireless charging (it's a gimmick and unnecessary imho), top-end SD+Adreno chipset, stereo speakers, standard 5G integration (that doesn't spike the price), and a competitive price point.
I know I've just described the OP7Pro with a few alterations but the phone was breakthrough as a flagship and a great base point off of which to build new models going into 2020 and beyond.

Can transform into a drone...

every single leak i've seen has a hole punch which means I'm absolutely not interested. I am absolutely stunned OnePlus would be so stupid to go from a fullscreen phone that is heralded as one of the best ever and move to a hole punch thinking that is an upgrade. so disappointed

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If the hole punch is on all Oneplus 8 variants then I'm really not interested at all. I'll probably stick with 7pro until another manufacture releases a stockish android experience, with nothing on the screen except screen, and at least 90hz refresh rate, and a decent development community. Oh and under $650 so that counts out pixels to.
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I'm on the same boat.
Punch hole display is deal breaker to me.
As for alternative only Xiaomi MI MIX 4 could bring full screen experience in 2020 without thouse nonsense punch hole,notch etc and despite non stockish Android out of box, but after oneplus xiaomi devices have the second strongest development community and support.
Google Pixel phones is not at my choice Btw.
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I'm on the same boat.
Punch hole display is deal breaker to me.
As for alternative only Xiaomi MI MIX 4 could bring full screen experience in 2020 without thouse nonsense punch hole,notch etc and despite non stockish Android out of box, but after oneplus xiaomi devices have the second strongest development community and support.
Google Pixel phones is not at my choice Btw.
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I check for news on the Mi Mix4 and found that it too looks like the punch hole will be present

I don't want a phone with a punch hole camera, makes me sad OnePlus is going down that road.

punch hole does not break it, but curved screen - yes. that is a dealbreaker.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8/how-to
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Hoping for a persistent notification LED in some form (due to the LED itself being removed in phones these days) - for those times I don't hear my phone go off.
I'm not going to change my habits i.e. pick up the phone every 5 mins to see if I missed an important text, no. I'd rather just quickly glance at the phone without switching it on.

Waiting for OP8 but is it possible to buy it during this quarantine period...? But the reach of Oneplus 8 series will be huge as all of people are sitting home and scrolling news feeds...

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Waiting for OP8 but is it possible to buy it during this quarantine period...? But the reach of Oneplus 8 series will be huge as all of people are sitting home and scrolling news feeds...
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Yes, you can - I did. Being delivered tomorrow.
Alan