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ATT 8525 and ATT 8925 Email problems

The company I work for recently (3 months ago) bought 3 ATT 8525's for people who travel. All 3 of the phones have this issue where when they go into their power save mode, and they will not send or receive Email or produce notifications about new email. It appears to me that when the phones go into this power save mode they turn off the wireless card in the phone. I have made every effort to figure this out myself but I finally broke down and called ATT who then transfered me to HTC. HTC told me that this is a bug in the phone and that they do not have a solution for it other than trying Windows Mobile 6. However, since ATT has not released WM6 for the 8525, and I don't feel like bricking a phone, the company decided to go ahead and buy the ATT 8925, hopping that the new phone wouldn't have this problem. Unfortunately it dose.
So getting down to my question. Does anyone know how to get these phones to send and receive Email, through WIFI and not the cell network, when they are in their power save mode?
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Oh and BTW, after toying around with the 8925 I do have to say that the new features included in the phone are quite nice, hate the chrome though.
Thanks

Via WiFi? No. You wouldn't like the battery life if it did.

Battery life
I don't really care about that right now. I'm just looking for a solution to the problem i am currently having.

Could be connected to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332362

you need to disable the at&t proxie to use wifi to send mail/etc
To have the wifi alwayz on even in standby is not wise, you batter will die fast ......

I have no issues using Active sync with exchange 2007 i get emails even when in power save maybe you should get some exchange accounts

pwnage said:
I don't really care about that right now. I'm just looking for a solution to the problem i am currently having.
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You don't understand the gravity of what he told you. The battery life would literally be 2-3 hours.
Manually pressing the power button and tapping 'check for new messages' is a much better solution than being completely unable to access email for 3/4 of the workday because the battery has died.
Think about it.
Also, on your install CD, you'll find some AT&T software to push email to the phone automatically, waking up the phone using SMS. And, as other people have suggested, these phones were designed with Microsoft Exchange in mind and setting up an Exchange server would also help your problem.

Thank you for the replies.
Dose the "push" feature work with non exchange email servers. The only reason I ask is because we don't have an exchange server.

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Could be connected to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332362
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I took a look at this and it seems to describe the problem i have very well. In regards to the battery life, is there a way to have the WIFI turn on when its time to check mail and then turn off after its finished? I would really like these phones to be using WIFI most of the time even though we have an unlimited data plan, WIFI just seems to be faster.

pwnage said:
Dose the "push" feature work with non exchange email servers. The only reason I ask is because we don't have an exchange server.
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Try www.emoze.com

ringy2 thank you. I'll take a look at that.
You know I have been working off of the thread linked above and I have gotten the phone to the point where it seems to be checking our mail server over GPRS/3G (I have turned the WIFI antenna off). The problem now is that the when it goes to check messages it won't DL any new ones that may be on the server. Any ideas?

Do you not have unlimited data with at&t? If you do then there is absolutely no reason not to leave wifi off and just use that for email. As for checking emails and not getting anything new. You need to adjust the settings for your account.

surrept, Yes we have an unlimited data plan and at this point i have given up on getting the phone to check via WIFI. As for the settings, what are you refering to? I have the account setup and i have configured it exactly how it is supposed to be. i have it DLing full copies of messages w/ no attachments, and it is set to check mail every 5 min (will change this back to 15 once i have finished testing).

Um, BTW - AT&T did release WM6 for the 8525... VERY much worth it. However, I'm still going for a 8925 for the doubled RAM/ROM & GPS...

I highly doubt that. Again i have looked in every deep dark place that the internet has and haven't found any WM6 ROM that I can DL from ATT site. you are probably referring to the "official" ATT ROM that i have seen floating around. Im not going to put that on these phones because, one I work for a descent size company and I don't want to be breaking any law and such on there behalf. Two I don't feel like bricking any of these phones. I want the warranty to be valid on them. If it was my personal phone i might try it. but since these are the companies phones it ain't gonna happen.

Any "Out of network" alert software?

Hi all,
I've come up with an idea today, after I got a new job, I have to visiting different clients in different locations, however, sometimes, I've got no network signal at all, maybe sitting inside a restaurant, in this case, my family and my clients can't reach me.
My idea is, besides, checking the phone from time to time, is it possible to have a sound alert, which like SMS, email alerts?

Check under phone settings for the service tone.

I'm sorry I don't understand. I don't see such option in my Atom Life.
Sorry that I'm new to WM devices.

uniqlo said:
Hi all,
I've come up with an idea today, after I got a new job, I have to visiting different clients in different locations, however, sometimes, I've got no network signal at all, maybe sitting inside a restaurant, in this case, my family and my clients can't reach me.
My idea is, besides, checking the phone from time to time, is it possible to have a sound alert, which like SMS, email alerts?
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I totally agree with you..I find quite some time..I knew there exists in PhoneAlarm..but that is too big a application...

try rk-Location, search the forum for it..i believe it does the job

[Q] Lost HTC Wildfire - India

My friend lost his HTC-Wildfire ( India, Bangalore).
There was no tracker enabled, is it possible to request HTC to block the device based on IMEI number? I read somewhere, it is not yet possible in India ( the blog-post was about a year old).
Any other suggestions?

HTC will not do it. Your mobile operator will do it, but, it needs a FIR from your local police station, and, as expected, it is a process full of hassle, unless you have 'contacts'.

And I heard, mobile operator keep asking to go back to device manufacturer. ( we work at SIM level, and not device, unless it is locked).
Then perhaps I should let the 'finder' enjoy his luck for now.

As I said, its a hassle filled process. From what I read and heard, it is the mobile operator who should do it, because, all of them have access to a global database of stolen phones. All they need to do is simply add your IMEI to this global list, and it is locked for use with any sim - any network. Obviously, its a process filled with legal red tape, which is why they are uncooperative.

I think when we are using android market, Google will be having our imei/serial number. Don't know if that helps to track the phone ( maybe not ). But I think everyone with android phone must be using market.
And if the person who got the phone wants to use wildfire without a sim or any other internet networks, then u can do really really nothing. All we should do is to protect our phone from being lost.

You could also try Plan B,if it works in your country.It`s an app that installs itself when the device connects to the market and then sends you the location of the phone.
Hope it will work for you^^

Haska said:
You could also try Plan B,if it works in your country.It`s an app that installs itself when the device connects to the market and then sends you the location of the phone.
Hope it will work for you^^
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That was the first thing I did, but I think I was late by hours. By that time the device was offline.
ALso, there was a 'pattern' based unlock password. So, if the person goes about reflashing the ROM (himself, or whoever he sells to).. then that wont work.

Haska said:
You could also try Plan B,if it works in your country.It`s an app that installs itself when the device connects to the market and then sends you the location of the phone.
Hope it will work for you^^
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It's already lost unfortunately.
Besides, atleast as far as I know, mobile thieves are today much more intelligent. They will first flash and format your phone before even attempting to use it (They switch off your phone immediately after picking it - happened to me once). Also, another aspect is that it is hardly ever the thief who will use it. He will sell it at first opportunity.

^@3xeno
Exactly.
I had no hope from planB, but I still did it - just in case.
Even if it works, the accuracy of location would be very important.
I can be evil and go all-out to get IMEI blocked. But just thinking whether its worth the hassle ( its more of a revenge), as they say, it wont help to get the device back.
Or should I let the 'receiver' enjoy his luck.

As i can remember there is a app in the market called 'plan B' which helps to track your phone even after it is lost. Log in to the market with your pc and search for it.
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shiranmotha said:
As i can remember there is a app in the market called 'plan B' which helps to track your phone even after it is lost. Log in to the market with your pc and search for it.
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Of course he can install "Plan B" remotely in his device from PC android market without any confirmational messages (but provided only if his gmail account is still associated with his phone. This happens only if his sim card was unchanged and i dont think that is the case).
It would be nice if google gives some more security to keep the gmail account attached to the phone.

bharatgaddameedi said:
It would be nice if google gives some more security to keep the gmail account attached to the phone.
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I had that feeling almost two months afther buying it: you can simply pull out the sim card of the device and start it up, resulting in having access to the persons mails and contacts. You can even send mails if you enable wifi.
Solution for that: the pattern unlock. Most of the time annoying, but thiefs will have to hard reset the phone to get past it, loosing all the contact with my mail and google contacts.
EDIT: or at least I hope so, never really tried to see if there was a way to get past the unlock code (accept when you get called, but I really hope that the thief is not someone who has my number )

ErwinP said:
I had that feeling almost two months afther buying it: you can simply pull out the sim card of the device and start it up, resulting in having access to the persons mails and contacts. You can even send mails if you enable wifi.
Solution for that: the pattern unlock. Most of the time annoying, but thiefs will have to hard reset the phone to get past it, loosing all the contact with my mail and google contacts.
EDIT: or at least I hope so, never really tried to see if there was a way to get past the unlock code (accept when you get called, but I really hope that the thief is not someone who has my number )
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A typical thief wont be able to get past 'pattern-unlock'. However, in hands of a hacker, with adb - everything is possible with sufficient time and motivation.
Typical thief would either sell it, or try to use it using different sim ( your best hope for any post-theft-tracking possibility).
Irony is that, pattern lock saves you from un-educated 'thief' misusing your data. But, on the other hand it motivates them to reflash the ROM, thus eliminating any chance of u tracking it.
In hands of even bigger experts, even IMEI-lock wont stay for long. I am sure there are people who know how to spoof IMEI. But I would imagine that is very small community.

Yes it all depends on the person that finds/steals the phone but better to try and fail than not try at all.And yes the Plan B requirement is that the person that has your phone uses your gmail account login on the market.With pattern lock the one that finds it would have to flash it as akshayxyz said so it all depends on the settings/luck or whatever ,but still there is no harm in trying.
After all what are the chances that someone with knowledge about these things finds your lost phone,and if that was the case then your friend has really bad luck.
I lost my phone and i used it just in case,I even kept the same password in the hope that one would log in with it.It didn`t help me since as i found out later my lcd cracked when it fell out of my pocket ,but after i got it back(the person that found it came into the store i work at and asked how much would the replacement cost) and loged in the market the app installed itself,so try it.
No harm done and its just a few clicks on the net^^.

Need help... note was stolen.

hey guys, a buddy of mine just had his note stolen. it is a wifi only device and i need to know if there is a way to locate it... i dont have any information of the device available other than a text+ phone number that the device is using. please shoot me a PM if you have any ideas, i have a few people working on it right now but need all and any ideas or input. please send PMs
thanks in advance

All notes have antitheft application built in it, atleast mine has, you need to register the same if you do you can track the phone from Samsung tracker website, it should be able to give you its location and also should be able to lock it, dont know whether it will happen with a wifi version as there is no imei number you can check

samir_a said:
All notes have antitheft application built in it, atleast mine has, you need to register the same if you do you can track the phone from Samsung tracker website, it should be able to give you its location and also should be able to lock it, dont know whether it will happen with a wifi version as there is no imei number you can check
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thank you... very useful... contacting somebody i know at google right now as well.

But... if you did not activate the utrack function (and if you did, you should know), then it will not work.

Found it.. Thanks for the input guys

Before saying it doesnt work (if you will) mind this:
1. It has to be switched on obviously
2. You need to have a working internet connection, meaning if he removes/switches simcard (you may recieve a notification about simcard change) and turn off WiFi, you're toast
3. Its possible he made a factory reset.. If so you're also toast
Personally Im using rooted N8000 and Avast Anti-theft.

Cheers cobraboy for letting us know, most people just leave threads open ended. How did you find it? Be interesting for others to know....

His saving grace was that it was connected to my buddy's WiFi...there were 4 people at the house when it turned up missing...
I got on his main computer at his house, pulled up a list of all the mac IDs connected to their WiFi, identified all 10 devices in the house individually, phones, computers, etc...
His tab should have come up on that list if it was there - it did not. So I confronted the person who I was pretty sure was the only one that would have taken it and told him I knew he had taken it - he came with our other friend..
Showed them all that it was physically missing and not in range of the home network... Even tho it was previously connected... Then told him I was going to call the cops over there if somebody didn't fess up so this was his chance to come clean (as my friends and I don't ****ing steal from each other... Durr) and he admitted to putting it outside while we were all upstairs, then texting another friend of his to come by the house and snagging it.
Got it back. And somebody might have had a bloody nose when all was said and done. Low lifes.

glad you got a result!
i would have emptied there pockets and took anything of value while i was at the nose breaking ceremony

alls well the ends well good you got the note back now activate the tracker

I have had great experience with the Cerberus anti theft app :good:

cobraboy85 said:
His saving grace was that it was connected to my buddy's WiFi...there were 4 people at the house when it turned up missing...
I got on his main computer at his house, pulled up a list of all the mac IDs connected to their WiFi, identified all 10 devices in the house individually, phones, computers, etc...
His tab should have come up on that list if it was there - it did not. So I confronted the person who I was pretty sure was the only one that would have taken it and told him I knew he had taken it - he came with our other friend..
Showed them all that it was physically missing and not in range of the home network... Even tho it was previously connected... Then told him I was going to call the cops over there if somebody didn't fess up so this was his chance to come clean (as my friends and I don't ****ing steal from each other... Durr) and he admitted to putting it outside while we were all upstairs, then texting another friend of his to come by the house and snagging it.
Got it back. And somebody might have had a bloody nose when all was said and done. Low lifes.
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u should had called the police

Glad you got it back. Pretty smart idea!
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You can also write a Tasker code for this kind of stuff. My TF101 used to take a snapshot of the front and back cameras, turn on WIFI, located by GPS and WIFI, then sync the photos and location data to a dropbox. I didn't do more coding because it was inconvenient and I ended up with shots of me taking a ****.. but, you know, if someone wanted to, he could easily turn that into a profile based on location (ie. maybe it won't take snapshots if you're on a recognized wifi or something).

How do you turn on the anti theft......would be interesting to hear from users of N8000, N8010, and N8013 to see IF the process is different for each.
Also, it would be nice to read of users preferred app......

Riki1kenobi said:
How do you turn on the anti theft......would be interesting to hear from users of N8000, N8010, and N8013 to see IF the process is different for each.
Also, it would be nice to read of users preferred app......
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Same here...what is this app thats supposedly built into our note? I have 8013 wifi version. How do we activate this tracker app?

I have the geek squad app from best buy, it will track lock wipe . make noise and take pic
demandarin said:
Same here...what is this app thats supposedly built into our note? I have 8013 wifi version. How do we activate this tracker app?
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It's called Samsung Dive and it's pretty cool beyond just lost device tracking. You (N8000) owners can use it to forward calls and MMS to another device, ring the device (like if you lost it in the house), and, if it's stolen or lost, remote wipe and lock it so it can't be used.
You sign in to the Dive website with your Samsung account. My account's in the UK so I don't how it works in the U.S. I didn't do anything to get my device(s) to appear in Dive other than use my Samsung account when I first set them up.
http://www.samsungdive.com/DiveMain.do
To get Dive to work you have to enable it on your device. It's under Settings>Security>Remote controls if it's available on your particular Note. This is from my N2 but the 10.1's the same.

Just registered with Samsung Dive. N8013, signed in and it automatically recognized the Note. Pretty slick

HELP, Locked S10+cannot unlock with all of the accounts at my disposal

Hey Everyone,
I have been bashing my head against a wall trying to get this phone unlocked, a friend has passed away and no one knows his PSW. The phone houses information that will help the family.
What I have been able to get access to over the course of time i have spent with all devices.
Emails, laptops, Samsung account.
He was good with securing his passwords but I was able to get through with some persistence.
The phone is linked to his Samsung account and when i go onto: https://findmymobile.samsung.com/
i see it however when i try to see any options I get the following:
"Your service provider doesn't support the Find My Mobile service on your phone.
If you've lost a device, you can find it with SmartThings Find in the SmartThings app.
SmartThings Find is only supported on devices with Android O or higher."
smart things gives me absolutely nothing. I tried to bypass the service provider by spoofing the wifi from his home and got him connected but that has given me no further progress.
I also checked if he had developer options on so i could ADB into the phone but again no luck with that. I am down to "3 attempts left" with no option to reset password.
Any help would be super appreciated.
Also have an iPad that i cant figure out the password to but I am guessing that thing is done, and the data cannot be removed from it.
Thanks in advance to anyone that can help.
_dW

one of the forum members was able to attempt to assist but we did not get far I have not seen a message like this in the samsung account ever and yet it always pops up . we reflashed the phone to a ATT variant and attempted to see if it can be found on that network and we got the same results.
I feel like I am between a rock and a hard place I would love to help the family but I know within 3 attempts the phone will be wiped.
If anyone has any other ideas I am all ears.

bump plz help

Data recovery specialist. They're out there.
Didn't they backup the data?