Hi all,
I'm currently running a custom rom, but android pay and some other apps can detect the root and thus don't work.
How do I go about achieving a system less root?
Thanks
Anyone?
Short steps are :
Stock rom is recommended for this (but you can try on custom rom too.. it may not work)
>Install twrp
>don't do swipe for modifications in twrp and keep system read only
>format data in twrp > now flash latest magisk from twrp
>now flash system less devbase 2.1 from here https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/samsung-systemless-devbase-encryption-t3517178/
>now reboot the device.. it may delete some pre installed apps you need to download them manually from playstore which you like..
There's another way too using SU hide.. for that read this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/guide-onelatest-stock-fw-csc-root-t3702963/
And pls read everything multiple times before doing anything ..
Be careful with these flashing and rooting things .. whatever you do , do it on your own risk.. no one is responsible for any damage to the device..
Also whatever you do .. BE SURE THAT OEM UNLOCK IS ENABLED IN DEVELOPER OPTIONS..OR YOU MAY GET STUCK BADLY...
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hello, guys, I have tried kingroot and kingoroot to get root access without PC but all I am getting is a failure every time. Please help in this matter. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I am not sure why they didn't work. Probably due to locked bootloader.
It's better if you unlock your bootloader (wil format internal storage), install a custom recovery (TWRP) and flash magisk.
Search the General thread of this device to know how to do the above. Cheers
Hello everyone.
I made some test in installing some custom roms in some old devices always avoiding to install TWRP permanently on the drive (i used it in boot mode and then adb listen in TWRP and adb command from PC).
I've done this in order to preserve the stock recovery mode.
I decided to install pixel experience as my default rom in my redmi note 7 and i noticed that this rom will use OTA updates so i'm asking you if i should install TWRP (or other recovery images) permenently in order to make it work properly.
Another question that i have revolves around Magisk, is this tool needed in order to make pixel experience work fine?
BTW i don't understand why TWRP does not officially support RN7 lol (eventually i'll use a porting or another recovery )
Thank you everyone
First, sorry for not answering your main question but I'm more intrigued as to how you can flash a custom rom without using a custom recovery like TWRP. Also, is it possible to permanently install TWRP? How you do this?
Second, Magisk is not needed for the rom but allows some other customizations, fixes and root access.
you need some kind of custom recovery that supports your phone, its what allows you to install roms. There are a few out there such as TWRP, organge fox, etc. Chose whatever you like that has good support for your device.
I want to root my phone due to its huge benefits but also at the same time I want to keep my OTAs
Is it possible even if I will install them manually (but the data remains with no wipe) ?
And if so, how can I do this and whats the best way?
Thanks in advance and sorry if the language was bad <3
Tsunaimy said:
I want to root my phone due to its huge benefits but also at the same time I want to keep my OTAs
Is it possible even if I will install them manually (but the data remains with no wipe) ?
And if so, how can I do this and whats the best way?
Thanks in advance and sorry if the language was bad <3
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Yes it's possible with a little workaround, to temporarily switch to stock Recovery (from TWRP, if you had it installed) and to stock Boot (from the one patched by Magisk) during the OTA upgrade - OTA will fail if it finds not the stock images of Recovery and Boot
After the upgrade you just flash the new Boot patched by Magisk (and flash TWRP if you will)
Or you flash TWRP and flash Magisk from TWRP
Below is a post how I recently upgraded from QFJEUXM 12.0.2 to 12.0.3. Btw, I downloaded zip and initiated OTA manually because I didn't want to wait more days to be pushed for OTA, but that's just a small detail not important for the way how to do it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83791185&postcount=93
Ofc, all my data, apps, settings, and Magisk modules were preserved
Generally, in the Redmi K20/Mi 9T Guides section on XDA you can find (at least two) threads about how-to root, i.e. install Magisk
Those threads describe the way to install Magisk by installing Magisk Manager, patching the Boot image, then flashing it from Fastboot (I prefer that way).
In that case TWRP is not needed (but it can be also installled)
Threads and guides are maybe old (since MIUI 11) but it doesn't matter, it's always the same method (essentially the same as in my post I gave you the link above, its part about returning back to Magisk after the OTA upgrade)
If you follow those guides you must pay attention that you patch the boot.img for exactly that (new) stock MIUI you do have and that you now use new Magisk (not some old versions as in the guides)
Alternatively, you flash TWRP by Fastboot, then flash Magisk zip from TWRP and then you install Magisk Manager
All those methods are described in other threads and posts.
Anyway, you must first unlock the Bootloader, again there is thread with a guide, or just google for how to unlock Bootloader on Xiaomi
Btw, some custom TWRP versions and Orange Fox do have Advanced options for upgrading MIUI and to keep Magisk, but when I did it that way for upgrading from QFJEUXM 11.0.5 to 12.0.2, it made me Factory reset and I lost all my files on Internal memory (it was generally an issue for the others who upgraded from MIUI 11 to MIUI 12 by flashing OTA through custom recovery)
Hence now for upgrading to 12.0.3 I didn't want to risk and did it as above
zgfg said:
Yes it's possible with a little workaround, to temporarily switch to stock Recovery (from TWRP, if you had it installed) and to stock Boot (from the one patched by Magisk) during the OTA upgrade - OTA will fail if it finds not the stock images of Recovery and Boot
After the upgrade you just flash the new Boot patched by Magisk (and flash TWRP if you will)
Or you flash TWRP and flash Magisk from TWRP
Below is a post how I recently upgraded from QFJEUXM 12.0.2 to 12.0.3. Btw, I downloaded zip and initiated OTA manually because I didn't want to wait more days to be pushed for OTA, but that's just a small detail not important for the way how to do it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83791185&postcount=93
Ofc, all my data, apps, settings, and Magisk modules were preserved
Generally, in the Redmi K20/Mi 9T Guides section on XDA you can find (at least two) threads about how-to root, i.e. install Magisk
Those threads describe the way to install Magisk by installing Magisk Manager, patching the Boot image, then flashing it from Fastboot (I prefer that way).
In that case TWRP is not needed (but it can be also installled)
Threads and guides are maybe old (since MIUI 11) but it doesn't matter, it's always the same method (essentially the same as in my post I gave you the link above, its part about returning back to Magisk after the OTA upgrade)
If you follow those guides you must pay attention that you patch the boot.img for exactly that (new) stock MIUI you do have and that you now use new Magisk (not some old versions as in the guides)
Alternatively, you flash TWRP by Fastboot, then flash Magisk zip from TWRP and then you install Magisk Manager
All those methods are described in other threads and posts.
Anyway, you must first unlock the Bootloader, again there is thread with a guide, or just google for how to unlock Bootloader on Xiaomi
Btw, some custom TWRP versions and Orange Fox do have Advanced options for upgrading MIUI and to keep Magisk, but when I did it that way for upgrading from QFJEUXM 11.0.5 to 12.0.2, it made me Factory reset and I lost all my files on Internal memory (it was generally an issue for the others who upgraded from MIUI 11 to MIUI 12 by flashing OTA through custom recovery)
Hence now for upgrading to 12.0.3 I didn't want to risk and did it as above
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I really appreciate your reply but I kinda don't know much info to understand most of what u said
My last time with root was about 3 years ago with king root on Mi A1 and I didn't care about updates then
so it's my very first time with magisk and TWRP and that stuff
Could u tell me what is the best method of u mentioned to keep my files and everything with no delete and also makes me able to upgrade Official ROM with no deletes
After this i'll start digging to learn but I want to know what should I dig for
Thanks bro
Tsunaimy said:
I really appreciate your reply but I kinda don't know much info to understand most of what u said
My last time with root was about 3 years ago with king root on Mi A1 and I didn't care about updates then
so it's my very first time with magisk and TWRP and that stuff
Could u tell me what is the best method of u mentioned to keep my files and everything with no delete and also makes me able to upgrade Official ROM with no deletes
After this i'll start digging to learn but I want to know what should I dig for
Thanks bro
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Unlocking Bootloader usually takes to wait 7 days=168 hours, hence you have enough time to read?
Unlocking Bootloader:
https://c.mi.com/thread-1857937-1-1.html
Unlocking Bootloader: and Installing TWRP, OP post #1:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/how-to/guide-unlock-bootloader-flash-xiaomi-eu-t3952443
- for step 6, installing TWRP, use TWRP I'm giving you below
- instead of 7, execute this command:
>> fastboot oem reboot-recovery
- step 7, don't Format Data (unless you really go to install custom ROM, otherwise you don't need to)
- stop here for installing TWRP
Suggesting you to use this TWRP, 3.4.0.2 from OP post #1:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/how-to/recovery-unofficial-twrp-3-4-0-1-t4135159
- every time you boot to TWRP, you must type in your Android screen unlock pin, TWRP needs to be able to read/write to Data and Internal memory
Learn about using ADB and Fastboot:
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/use-adb-fastboot-android/
- you can't do things with ADB that require root, but you can read
- similarly, fastboot commands mostly require unlocked Bootloader, but you can read
- google yourself
About installing Magisk, read in these threads:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/how-to/guide-easiest-to-root-twrp-t4000209
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/how-to/root-k20-indian-rom-v10-3-6-0-twrp-t3958566
- if you have time, go through the whole threads, you will see variations
- don't worry if talking about MIUI 11, same applies for MIUI 12, you will just need to download your MIUI 12 recovery/zip firmware, will give you link below
- I'll give you below the link for the latest Magisk
MIUI firmwares, download, etc:
https://androidfilebox.com/tips/how-to-install-miui-recovery-rom/
https://androidfilebox.com/tips/how-to-install-miui-fastboot-rom/
https://xiaomiflashtool.com/tutorial/use-xiaomi-flash-tool
https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/davinci/
https://codeexercise.com/xiaomi-all-android-mobile-secret-code-list/amp/
Various methods to extract stock Recovery, Boot, Persist and Persistbak partitions:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/how-to/root-k20-indian-rom-v10-3-6-0-twrp-t3958566
Magisk documentation and download:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/README.MD
- read the docs
- I would suggest you to use Canary (don't worry, Stable is far behind), hence you will only need to download Magisk Manager Canary (then follow XDA guides I gave you above)
zgfg said:
Unlocking Bootloader usually takes to wait 7 days=168 hours, hence you have enough time to read
Unlocking Bootloader:
https://c.mi.com/thread-1857937-1-1.html
Unlocking Bootloader: and Installing TWRP, OP post #1:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/how-to/guide-unlock-bootloader-flash-xiaomi-eu-t3952443
- for step 6, installing TWRP, use TWRP I'm giving you below
- instead of 7, execute this command:
>> fastboot oem reboot-recovery
- step 7, don't Format Data (unless you really go to install custom ROM, otherwise you don't need to)
- stop here for installing TWRP
Suggesting you to use this TWRP, 3.4.0.2 from OP post #1:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/how-to/recovery-unofficial-twrp-3-4-0-1-t4135159
- every time you boot to TWRP, you must type in your Android screen unlock pin, TWRP needs to be able to read/write to Data and Internal memory
Learn about using ADB and Fastboot:
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/use-adb-fastboot-android/
- you can't do things with ADB that require root, but you can read
- similarly, fastboot commands mostly require unlocked Bootloader, but you can read
- google yourself
About installing Magisk, read in these threads:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/how-to/guide-easiest-to-root-twrp-t4000209
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/how-to/root-k20-indian-rom-v10-3-6-0-twrp-t3958566
- if you have time, go through the whole threads, you will see variations
- don't worry if talking about MIUI 11, same applies for MIUI 12, you will just need to download your MIUI 12 recovery/zip firmware, will give you link below
- I'll give you below the link for the latest Magisk
MIUI firmwares, download, etc:
https://androidfilebox.com/tips/how-to-install-miui-recovery-rom/
https://androidfilebox.com/tips/how-to-install-miui-fastboot-rom/
https://xiaomiflashtool.com/tutorial/use-xiaomi-flash-tool
https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/davinci/
https://codeexercise.com/xiaomi-all-android-mobile-secret-code-list/amp/
Various methods to extract stock Recovery, Boot, Persist and Persistbak partitions:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/how-to/root-k20-indian-rom-v10-3-6-0-twrp-t3958566
Magisk documentation and download:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/README.MD
- read the docs
- I would suggest you to use Canary (don't worry, Stable is far behind), hence you will only need to download Magisk Manager Canary (then follow XDA guides I gave you above)
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bro I can`t really thank u enough for the effort
as I got it:
1- Unlock bootloader
2- Install TWRP (the version u provided)
3- Install Magisk (last link u provided) right?
Is there any step of those that is risky or unsafe that may brick the phone ?
PS: On mi unlock application it says all phone data will be erased !
what should I do ?
By unlocking Xiaomi phone you won't lose anything but previous user data stored in phone, unlike ASUS phone losts OTA permanentry.
So make a backup, also I recommend you first picking your secondaly phone, not your daily using one.
Tsunaimy said:
bro I can`t really thank u enough for the effort
as I got it:
1- Unlock bootloader
2- Install TWRP (the version u provided)
3- Install Magisk (last link u provided) right?
Is there any step of those that is risky or unsafe that may brick the phone ?
PS: On mi unlock application it says all phone data will be erased !
what should I do ?
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As described, TWRP is optional, not needed for Magisk/root but it would be useful to have, so yes, install TWRP
Instructions for unlocking Bootloader say to do Backup. Copy photos and files from Internal memory to PC.
Export contacts to CVS file and also copy to PC.
Backup to Google your Google accounts, contacts, WhatsApp, etc.
Use Settings, Additional settings, Backup, and cooy to PC.
You can also use Settings, MIUI account to backup things
Installations of Magisk and TWRP will not erase data. Generally, they are not risky unless you make really stupid mistake like flashing TWRP img file to System partition instead of to Recovery partition and so - that's why you have instructions how to use Fastboot command to flash TWRP
It's more risky if you go to use e.g. MiFlash (you don't need for TWRP and Magisk), then people can screw up things and need authorized EDL support