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After playing around some days (and yes: i read through a lot of threats) i think that this problem (using a bluetooth headset to activate ms voicecommand for dialing and so on) is not only bugging me but a lot of others.
Thats why I want to start ANOTHER, more structured thread about this topic. If something is wrong, please correct me!
WANTED SOLUTION:
Most of you want to use voicecommand activated via a bluetooth device... in your car beside TomTom for example.
PREPARATION: Headset working
I assume that you already got your device working. For myself, I am testing with Supertooth II and a Nokia BH200 hands-free device.
PROBLEM 1: TRIGGERING
First off all, voicecommand needs to be "started" when you press a button on the headset. Usually, the application "windows/sddialer.exe" is launched when bluetooth gets a "voicecommand"-commando.
(Some headsets got their own button, some wants kinda double-click, others want their button hold for some seconds to do so...)
This problem can be solved by changing a key in the registry:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/OEM/VoiceCommand/
..Then change the path value to:
\Program Files\Voice Command\voicecmd.exe
(or whereever you installed your voicecommand exe-file!)
Okay. Now the right application is launched when tapping on your bluetooth headset. But here you may encounter the next problem: It works only once.
PROBLEM 2: IT WORKS ONLY ONCE
That problem seems to be caused by voicecommand, because the gateway is left open after useage. (I have no idea if this is correct - i am just citing the opinion of some threads)
There are some attempts to solve this:
Darryl Burlings "Voice Enable": http://www.burling.co.nz/downloads.aspx
Project VCABT http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23558&highlight=vcabt
VCBTFixer0.01.
JETware Hands-free Extension for Windows Mobile phones
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
I tried them all and for me (german T-Mobile Rom 2.21) only Jetware's Tool worked. A reason MAY be that some of the hacks (vcabt, VoiceEnable,VCBTFixer0.01.zip) only work with an english ROM where all paths are correct: /programs and not /programme)
PROBLEM 3: Correct Audiotransfer
Some users report that it seems like there is still Wizards microphone in use - and NOT the one of the bluetooth device. Others again claim that voicecommands "answer" isnt delivered back to the headset but speaken via Wizards speakers... Since I used Jetwares Tool i didnt had that problem.
PROBLEM 4: Recognition Quality
Lets say you got somehow the correct and everlasting triggering of voicecommand via bluetooth working... then you may find out that recognition ends up with very poor quality.
Here a question for the "pros" in here: Could it be possible that this problem is related to poor bitrates in the audiotransmission via bluetooth? Could we increase recognition quality by tweaking that bitrate? Or will that end up with another problems (bt-bandwidth, cpupower while coding/encoding)?
PROBLEM 5: Interfering with other applications
Thats a future question... When everything works well with voicecommand - then you maybe want to use it in your car to have your hands free. And what else do most of us have there too? TomTom (or another navigation tool)!
So how will that work together with your voicecommand/bluetooth environment? Will TomTom "speak" via your headset too? Will the bluetooth gps mouse keep on working without problems?
And last but not least: Will you still be able to use your phone as a "phone" then?
Please share your ideas about theese problems... and if anyone got everything up and running (Voicecommand & Bluetooth, TomTom / GPS) it would be *very* appreciated if you could post a well written Tutorial / Howto
Regards, Licht
Good luck - for what its worth it works fine with certain BT headsets like the Moto HS850. Just the reg key does it.
Only thing is you have to hit the button on the BT headset 2-3 times sometimes to get it to work but it works perfectly otherwise.
Would LOVE to have a fix that would let me use with all headsets.
How does the jetware stuff work? I heard it screws up some other things?
Cause of "works only once" problem discovered?
I've gone through 4 different headsets with my Wizard and I found at least one commonality to which ones suffered the "works only once" problem:
All of the ones that had this problem were BT 2.0 headsets. The ones that worked fine were all BT 1.x headsets.
I also verified that on my new TyTN (which natively support BT 2.0) the BT 2.0 headsets worked correctly (no "works only once").
Not that this is any consolation to anyone with a BT 2.0 headset and a Wizard, but might help those looking for a new headset.
Changed over to Tytn... works perfectly without any hacks
here's my FWIW answer:
After extensive reading here and at Hofo, I settled on a Plantronics 510. Installed Burlings app and it worked. I hold the button to turn on VC (it will also wake the device from standby if its sleeping, even if its locked) and say my command. It will reply through the headset speaker. After that all audio is oing through my BT headset. (If you have VC telling you who's calling and telling you your appointments thats pretty nice, but if the phone rings you might need some new underwear)
Another long push of the headset button return audio to teh MDA's speakers. If I need to use VC again, I start all over. It sounds more complicated thatn it is in reality.
Recognition is so-so. I don't really use it in my pickup (its hot so my windows are down most of the time), but its pretty good in my car. I have to repeat myself maybe 10% of the time, at most.
Not sure how well written that was, sorry. if anyone has any questions I'd be glad to answer them. I've been pretty pleased with the combo. Especially since I got the 510 for $40 from amazon.
I searched and didn't find any previous postings regarding an issue with Parrot and Audi Hands Free (Bluetooth) car kits and the TyTn.
This issue is only with the TyTn and the Wizard devices work fine.
It seems to pair fine with the car kits but 5 minutes into usage...the TyTn turns the bluetooth off on the device.
Then about 1 min later, turns Bluetooth on again. The cycle then begins Off and then On ....
Here's a link on the Parrot forum.
http://www.parrot.biz/forums/english/viewtopic.php?id=2667
I've got the same problem with my Seat Leon (new model) bluetooth carkit !!!
I think it's the same module as in the Audi (all VAG related cars).
It's very irritating !
I hope they will fix it soon....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=58789&highlight=
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Er... not followed as far as parrot (down for maintennance) BUT
I've found with my Seat Leon kit that the phone needs to remain in a fully powered state - you can't put it into the sleepy state by the power button otherwise you get the intermittent but eventually endless dingling of it connecting and disconnecting.
Best way I've found is to leave it on asking for a password with the cover on.
edit: Should just point out that you also need to turn off any power off settings - except for the backlight.
Pyranwolf said:
Er... not followed as far as parrot (down for maintennance) BUT
I've found with my Seat Leon kit that the phone needs to remain in a fully powered state - you can't put it into the sleepy state by the power button otherwise you get the intermittent but eventually endless dingling of it connecting and disconnecting.
Best way I've found is to leave it on asking for a password with the cover on.
edit: Should just point out that you also need to turn off any power off settings - except for the backlight.
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I'm going to try this !
I hope that it works.
Thanks anyway.
What kind of Leon do you have ?
I've got an A6 with BT kit and am having this problem. I cannot make/receive a call whilst running my BT GPS device & TomTom, although from reading this the issue may be the Audi kit anyhow.
Are there any fixes available - be it HTC or Audi? Or are there any work-arounds, such as add-on software for the TyTN??
Please help - it is driving me mad. Spoiling what is otherwise a great piece of kit.
I have been having this exact problem with my Audi A4 with Audi Bluetooth.
I did wonder if it was in some way connected with the phone going into sleepy mode as it is being powered by the phone battery.
Also, the bluetooth stops responding after 5-10 minutes, but if I am continously using the phone, it seems to be ok.
Therefore, I think I need to buy an in car charger, and see what happens...
Has anybody else tried this that can confirm it works?
Markee
Just a quick note to Paul_o
My Audi A4 / SPV M3100 / Tom Tom / Bluetooth GPS work fine together.
If I am in Tom Tom, and get an incoming call, the little call window pops up over Tom Tom, Tom Tom carries on and the phone audio is routed through the speakers - the only irritating thing is that the Tom Tom lady keeps interrupting... :wink:
Mark
Hi,
I'm using Vario 2 with Audi Bluetooth and also having the BT ON - BT OFF issues.
These are my findings.
- Without JETWARE software:
- BT goes ON and OFF in the car regardless of the VARIO 2 being on or stand-by, or the phone being battery powered or connected to the car.
- Once a conversation is started the BT connection seems to be remain ON.
- With JETWARE software
- If I leave the screen always on the BT connection stays always ON. Only backlight automatic switch-off is selected
- I have tried several screen toggle programs (which claim that they only power down the screen) but the BT goes OFF in the car after a few minutes.
I'm happy to test any other proposal.
Cheers,
C
What version of JetWare are you running, they have a beta which has settings for the Audi kit, this may help, there is also a registry setting that is meant to change the power settings when bt is connected. An extract from an email conversation with Jetware...
We have also addressed the power issue, but this fix requires a registry change. Please create a DWORD registry value in HKLM\Software\JETware\AGExt named InSessionPower with a value of 0 (valid values are 0-4, with lower values indicating greater power availability). This will tell the OS that the Bluetooth device should stay at full power while it is in a Hands-free session.
Not sure if this will help, my Hermes is ariving on Monday, I'm was hoping that all the problems i've had with my magicain and the audi kit would go away with the Hermes, but maybe not.
Give the key a go and let me know
Hi dh,
thanks for your reply.
I haven't installed the Beta version yet. However I have changed the registry setting and will test first thing tomorrow. If this doesn't fix the problem I will try the Beta version with the Audi setting.
I'll keep you posted.
Cheers,
Carles
Hi dh,
I have tested the two proposals (Change in the registry and the Beta version + Audi settings) without much luck. The BT connection with the car keeps going ON and OFF when the phone is running on battery.
Have you got your Hermes? any luck?
Thanks,
Carles
Got my Hermes (Orange M3100) a couple of days ago. I've installed the JetWare extention, and without the InSessionPower set the connection is dropped. So far with the setting applied it has stayed connected. I have had other problems like not being able to make calls etc, which is a bit of a issue. I need to do some more testing, as i've been messing with the phone a bit.
I'll update here in a couple of days
Must say i'm very disapointed with the phone regarding this. A couple of weeks ago i had a Wizard which worked flawlessly with the JetWare extention, no power issues, calls made and received without a single problem. I wonder what has changed with the bt implementation between the Wizard and the Hermes?
Hi dh,
You will see from my previous postings I have had the same problems too.
It should be noted, though, that the Vario (wizard) worked flawlessly with the Audi A4 Bluetooth without Jetware software.
Has anybody been able to prove there is no problems if the phone (SPVM3100) is powered whilst in the car?
Cheers
Mark
I have a factory fitted hands free system in my Vauxhall. Every other phone you can think of works with it...EXCEPT my XDA mini. It seems to pair up, but there is no signal showing from the carkit. It might work for a minute and then it drops out. Is it the XDA or Vauxhall that's at fault? It seems that nobody knows the answer and I paid serious money for this bit of car kit. I like the phone, it really is annoying. I have tried another XDA mini as well and that doesn't work either. Does anybody else have a Vauxhall with the same built-in system and not connecting?
Markee
I've had the phone plugged in without the registry entry and it seemed to be ok. If I can get to a stage of a working solution i'll test again without the registry entry and with external power.
dh said:
Must say i'm very disapointed with the phone regarding this. A couple of weeks ago i had a Wizard which worked flawlessly with the JetWare extention, no power issues, calls made and received without a single problem. I wonder what has changed with the bt implementation between the Wizard and the Hermes?
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I'm guessing that since they went from BT1.1 to BT2.0 they had to make a new stack.
My Wizard worked PERFECTLY on my Parrot, my TyTN is almost useless on it.
you make a very good point ScottC, that'll be what it is.
Just driven home and could not make a single call with Jetware installed. Removed it and i could at least make a call, but i didn't get any status info or phone book. I didn't get a chance to leave it connected without Jetware for longer enough to see if it disconnected without external power, i imagine it will. I will test some more later/tomorrow. I'll also send an email to Jetware to see what there thoughts are regarding bt v2.0 and their product
Hello,
I have an Audi A3 with the factory fitted Phone kit but without the Audi Craddle so I'm using the Bluetooth connection.
I have tried the Vario (Wizard/QTEK 9100) and Vario 2 (Hermes/TyTN) and had similar problems with the two of them. Once the connection is stablished I can make and receive calls without problems. The issue is that the BT connection goes ON and OFF without an apparent reason.
The only thing I have seen is that when the Vario is kept on (only the backlight is off) the BT connection normally stays ON, regardless of the phone being powered or not.
I have tried Jetware, the Beta version, the registry entry, programs to switch off the screen...but haven't seen any real difference.
I have bought a bluetooth USB stick and will do some test at home to see if the problem is with the car or the phone.
I called T-mobile and they said it was a faulty phone, but I don't think so.
Keep the postings, we might end up finding a solution
Cheers
C
Try upgrade the BT software. I had the same problem after that i upgraded de Parrot software. Now i have the version 4.16
After many frustrating weeks of problems pairing my TYTN2 and Parrot3100 I have stumbled upon a fix that actually works (for me anyway).
After trying all of the usual fixes (upgrading firmware, running jetware, Bluetooth hotfix etc.)with no success at all, it seems that the way to go is to downgrade the parrot to version 4.15b of the CK3300. This is apparently quite safe as the only difference is that the 3300 has gps (however you flash at your own risk). See here, post #14 http://www.parrot.com/forums/english/viewtopic.php?id=5054.
Hope this helps, post any results to confirm that this was no fluke.
Parrot released 4.17a firmware. This finally helps my tytn working perfectly in combination with jetware. Even navigation instructions pass through my car's speakers when I press the call initiate button on my carkit.
Is the 3300's software working better?
I downgraded from the 3100 v4.17a to the 3300 v 4.15b and the only difference from my old phones is that the parrot no longer syncs the contacts. But that is no problem as I am running Voice Commander 1.6 anyway, which by the way is working perfectly now too.
I received the message below from Parrot today as I had an open ticket regarding the CK3100 and my Tilt. It will be the end of next week before I can do the update, as I will be on vacation starting tomorrow.
Hello,
Parrot has released new software for the CK3100 & the 3200LS that resolves the audio transfer issue with HTC touch screen phones. Please update your car kit to the latest version using our Parrot Software Update Tool & a Bluetooth enabled computer. Be sure to delete the car kit from your phone's Bluetooth settings after updating. You will need to re-pair your phone to the car kit. Failure to do so may result in erratic behavior.
Link for Update Tool & instructions:
http://www.parrot.com/usa/support/downloads
updated the firmware to 4.17a this afternoon. So far, so good, but my phantom dialing and random engagement of the mute switch were intermittent before. Will post again in a week or so if the problems don't materialize before then.
I was wondering if anyone else is having issues with bluetooth on their Archos 101. I can't tell if perhaps my hardware is flaky, or if its a software issue.
Basically, bluetooth seems to work sporadically. Sometimes it pairs like it should, other times it is a fight just to get it to pair with my phone, laptop or bluetooth keyboard. Often times I have to reboot just to get it to pair and it seems to really struggle if both bluetooth AND wifi are enabled.
I'm running the stock current ROM and outside of the android market APK and some basic apps, I haven't done anything wacky or weird to it.
I guess I'm just looking for some validation and/or confirmation and/or possible fixes if any.
Sorry, i have experienced no issues with bluetooth apart from forgetting to switch it on
I have had some issues as well. Paired a set of Motorola S9 bluetooth stereo headphones. They pair and connect fine, but the audio is choppy. It will sound fine for 15-20 seconds and then it will skip, go silent, bring back audio, etc. Tried playing same audio through unit speakers and no problems. I also have an Archos 70 tablet and have no problems with the same headset. Both have been updated with the Froy 2.2. Starting to think it might be a hardware issue with the 101. Anyone have any other thoughts?
Never had it working
I always get paired but not connected. Never have been able to get it to work.
The same problem. Pair, but not connect!
I've never found problem about bluetooth (Archos 101 - firmware version 2.1.08)
Pair & connect with DELL BH200 (Bluetooth Headset) - work fine.
Pair & connect with DELL BT Travel Mouse - work fine.
i'm getting major issues on my new replacement 101. did you ever sort your issues? i'm using latest fw.
its really hit or miss (mostly miss) whether it actually see's any BT devices when it scans. yet wifi works fine 100%
I experiment something very similar with my 101, this both on standard Android and Urukdroid 0.7 or 1.0 :
- very difficult (multiple tries have to be done) to get successfull peering.
- with BT enabled phones
- with BT GPS (G-Sat BT-368i, wich is given in forums to work well on our gen8 devices)
- for the GPS (which is the BT device that interest me) : impossible to have it working directly from GoogleMap, I got some success with "Bluetooth Gps Provider" appli from Market). This device is never shown as connected from the BT Parameters.
Could it be a hardware problem, that is do I have to return the tablet to archos ?
Thanks for your experience feeling about the fiability of the BT on 101 tablet.
It generally works fine for me, but a couple days ago it got stuck, and it would not allow to send me files to other devices until I rebooted the Archos. The same day I was also using bluetooth headphones and the wifi network together, and I had audio stutter problems. It seems that wifi has a negative effect over bluetooth stability.
It works for me... though
Bluetooth is not working on my Archos 101.
When I try "scan for devices" it shows 1 or 2 devices, while my HTC HD2 shows about 5. When I click again on "scan for devices" - sometimes it is howing different device, sometime shows bloothooth adress only.
Evan my HTC can see Archos, it cannot pair with it. Archos never see my HTC.
Zalek
Same here
I can pair with my phone (htc desire hd) but cant connect.
I need my phone connected for gps.
Nobody has a solution ?
No solution ?
Thanks
BT has some issues for me too with an A43.
BT+wifi means i either can't get a proper internet connection, or BT devices disconnect.
quite annoying, because i want to be able to use my BT mouse with the internet browser.
and my jabra halo headset connects in dumb mode (no media/volume controls) most of the time.
which is annoying, because it means my headset is stuck on the volume i last used.
Hi Lara and other fellows! For me, after all sort of tries, the solution comes with full reinitialization. Plug the unit to AC outlet, backup all your data, go to settings, repair and formatting and full reini. It seems that when we update firmware the things go a little crazy with the bt side. Good luck!
Think I've sorted out bluetooth problems
I also have had real problems with the bluetooth on Archos 101 - pairing but not connecting, causing "Location & Security" to crash when I attempted to open it (in settings). I updated the firmware to 2.4.19 and then rebooted - still the same problems, so I did a full initialization and hey presto all problems seem to have vanished ! A pain because I've now got to re-download all the apps I had before but at least the tablet is working as it is supposed to.
Hope this helps others.
luiznaufel said:
Hi Lara and other fellows! For me, after all sort of tries, the solution comes with full reinitialization. Plug the unit to AC outlet, backup all your data, go to settings, repair and formatting and full reini. It seems that when we update firmware the things go a little crazy with the bt side. Good luck!
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Hello
How can I backup all my data?
Thks
Followed your instruction however it is not work for me. I am running the last patch (2.4.19)
Thanks
luiznaufel said:
Hi Lara and other fellows! For me, after all sort of tries, the solution comes with full reinitialization. Plug the unit to AC outlet, backup all your data, go to settings, repair and formatting and full reini. It seems that when we update firmware the things go a little crazy with the bt side. Good luck!
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It is not working for me.....
Archos 101 Bluetooth Problem - Known issue?
I'm having the same problems. I contacted Archos support and they told me to do a full reinitialization. This did not resolve the issue.
When scanning for bluetooth devices, nothing shows up until the 5th or so attempt.
The mac address of the discovered device is shown instead of the device name.
When attempting to connect it fails several times, then it pairs but says "paired but not connected."
When I finally connect the audio stutters. It's extremely choppy... useless.
If the bluetooth is left on, the 101 will eventually freeze when the screen sleeps and cannot be woken up by pressing the power button. The green light stays on when this happens. Pressing the button a few times or holding it in reboots the 101.
After reading all the posts I've come to the conclusion that Archos likely knows about this issue.
Archos, if you're reading this, for the sake of your customers, please admit this is a known issue and let us know if it's fixable and when a possible fix may be available.
I encourage everyone to open a ticket with Archos support.
If you purchased your 101 used and it's been registered by the previous owner, you can register it and the registration will be instantly transferred to you.
Create a support account at archos.com
After you create an account you can add products to your account and submit tickets for them.
Firmware: 2.4.81
Board ver: A101IT-V5
OMAP ver: ES1.2
Boot ver: Unknown / 4.04.000000
My bluetooth device: Jensen WTB210. Works fine with several other android devices.
Anyone else on the newest 7.0 preview and unable to pair their bluetooth with their car?
Driving me nuts...hoping someone found a fix...
bongostl said:
Anyone else on the newest 7.0 preview and unable to pair their bluetooth with their car?
Driving me nuts...hoping someone found a fix...
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Right after the DP5 installation, I had to unpair the phone and car (2016 Mazda) because the phone would never connect. It was no where near as easy as that sounds, took me the better part of 30 minutes because of repeated "unknown errors" coming from the car.
The phone paired up just fine but I still have frequent and completely unexplained dropouts on literally every Bluetooth device I have (headphones, Moto 360, car and the list goes on). So far this has been the absolute worst of the previews for BT that I have ever seen.
But then, if you read around here, it sounds like there were a lot of these that had flaky BT hardware. Have not exchanged mine, but that has certainly been my experience since I bought this back in December.
I have no issues with Bluetooth and the latest DP. I have my phone connected to a Kenwood deck.
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I wonder if I have flaky BT hardware? Mine was a launch phone and it has worked perfectly in my Toyota since day 1. However I've recently bought a fitbit type band and with that application (veryfit 2.0) installed and connected to the band then if I make a call in car it drops the BT after about 30 seconds with an error message on screen saying 'corrupted probe message'. I can manually reconnect the call (it's still active on the phone) but after another 30 seconds or so it repeats the cycle. Have upgraded to Nougat Dev Preview NPD90G but still the same. Removing the app and its binding (it binds in the app not the phones BT devices in settings) and rebooting the phone resolves the issue. Tried again with a proper fitbit and the issue is identical.
I will RMA it to see if I get another one that works. Now to figure out how to put it back to stock marshmallow. gulp.
I have the same issue pairing to my car's Bluetooth keep pairing failed
bongostl said:
Anyone else on the newest 7.0 preview and unable to pair their bluetooth with their car?
Driving me nuts...hoping someone found a fix...
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I had this same issue, I flashed the system file again and wiped the cache and dalvik. It seems to be ok now.
Check this solution. Pair with '0000' worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/issue-android-nougat-bluetooth-issue-t3446073
Since switching from my Nexus 5 with 6.0.1 to a Nexus 6P with 7.0 I am also suffering from bluetooth issues. Pairing itself is not a problem but the connection sometimes drops, controls in my car don't work properly, remaining track time is not shown, etc. Haven't even tried to make calls yet. If I can't find a solution I'll probably be going back to 6.0.1.
The proposed '0000' solution is not working for me as I cannot change the PIN on my Seat Leon (2016). The PIN is autogenerated and shown on both displays to be confirmed upon pairing.
Has anybody tried flashing the latest 6.0.1 radio image and use it with a 7.0 system?