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Hello all, and please help me with some small details before rooting.
I have an LG G2 with stock KITKAT 4.4.2., baseband M8974A-1.0.190084,kernel 3.4.0., build D80220b, software D80220b-219-02.
My questions
- do I need to upgrade stock firmware to D802d or D802f before rooting, and if yes wich is more stable
- is a SIM card needed (as inserted in the phone) for rooting process
- do I need to unlock the phone before rooting since it is locked with my local carrier (TELE 2 HR)
- does a custom ROM automaticly eliminate OTA upgrade and so prevent from bricking, or it must be unchecked manualy
- when installing a custom ROM (probably Cludy G3) do I need to flash a new custom kernel or it doesent mater (probably Bruce if it is compatibile)
- how does one check for compatibility ROM - kernel, is it just simple as finding "stock ROM" - "stock kernel" in the title
- do I need to instal a new KK baseband before custom ROM since I am allready on KITKAT
- do I need to do any kind of factory reset and/or wipe before rooting or later instaling a custom ROM
Thank you very much in advance, I have been searching all over for this simple answers but couldnt find any,
Sorry if the questions are too noobish but I am afraid tostart anything before I find the answers
tomarin said:
Hello all, and please help me with some small details before rooting.
I have an LG G2 with stock KITKAT 4.4.2., baseband M8974A-1.0.190084,kernel 3.4.0., build D80220b, software D80220b-219-02.
My questions
- do I need to upgrade stock firmware to D802d or D802f before rooting, and if yes wich is more stable
- is a SIM card needed (as inserted in the phone) for rooting process
- do I need to unlock the phone before rooting since it is locked with my local carrier (TELE 2 HR)
- does a custom ROM automaticly eliminate OTA upgrade and so prevent from bricking, or it must be unchecked manualy
- when installing a custom ROM (probably Cludy G3) do I need to flash a new custom kernel or it doesent mater (probably Bruce if it is compatibile)
- how does one check for compatibility ROM - kernel, is it just simple as finding "stock ROM" - "stock kernel" in the title
- do I need to instal a new KK baseband before custom ROM since I am allready on KITKAT
- do I need to do any kind of factory reset and/or wipe before rooting or later instaling a custom ROM
Thank you very much in advance, I have been searching all over for this simple answers but couldnt find any,
Sorry if the questions are too noobish but I am afraid tostart anything before I find the answers
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1. You don't have to upgrade because you can use rooter that is compatible with your current firmware build, the differences between the firmware are only on their features, with less case of minor problem solved from previous build.
2. No, you don't need to put your SIM on.
3. Custom ROMs are meant to give you better performance of the current build, especially if it is Stock Based Custom ROM. Why you shouldn't update via OTA? because with several changes in the custom ROM, Official build will find it different from its official release, which would cause errors that could ended up with bootloop, even worse.. Hopefully, several developers also have their own OTA feature so people can easily get the update.
4. It doesn't matter since Custom ROMs sometimes come with their own suggested kernel that fit with the ROM. But you can also try other kernels if it suits you.
5. Yes, it is quite that simple, but also try to find out whether it is compatible or not with the ROM.
6. No, if you already on KitKat, you don't need to flash KK baseband.
7. Only when you are about to flashing new ROM..
Rei Zazie said:
1. You don't have to upgrade because you can use rooter that is compatible with your current firmware build, the differences between the firmware are only on their features, with less case of minor problem solved from previous build.
2. No, you don't need to put your SIM on.
3. Custom ROMs are meant to give you better performance of the current build, especially if it is Stock Based Custom ROM. Why you shouldn't update via OTA? because with several changes in the custom ROM, Official build will find it different from its official release, which would cause errors that could ended up with bootloop, even worse.. Hopefully, several developers also have their own OTA feature so people can easily get the update.
4. It doesn't matter since Custom ROMs sometimes come with their own suggested kernel that fit with the ROM. But you can also try other kernels if it suits you.
5. Yes, it is quite that simple, but also try to find out whether it is compatible or not with the ROM.
6. No, if you already on KitKat, you don't need to flash KK baseband.
7. Only when you are about to flashing new ROM..
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Thank you very much for your detailed answers !! :good::good:
Hi everyone
i've been out of the loop for ages, and still rocking the ancient 4.3 rooted "root-de-la-vega" version
My questions are thus:
1- will updating to 5.0 OF1 via keys even work? or am i risking a brick/other fudge-up?
2- if the above is not supposed to work, what's the best way to go about this?
3- is it possible to use the wifi hotspot on the new OF1 build after rooting? i'm not a verizon client.
I searched the forums a lot, doesn't seem like anybody stayed on 4.3 for so long he'll have to do 4.3-->5 as well
Any answer is much appreciated. thanks
I can't tell you anything about Kies, sorry.
I unlocked my bootloader on 4.3 / MJ7 using the same binary from the bootloader unlock thread (@donc113's from post #318 or something) . It would probably work for you on your current ROM as well.
I kept the MJ7 firmware ( still have it! )
The M* series (MI9/MJ7/MJE) firmware will not boot the N* (4.4) or O* (5.0) stock ROMs. Similarly you have to use the TWRP -4.3 variant in the custom recovery for the same reasons if you retain M* series booting firmware.
Curiously, however MJ7 bootloader will boot the CM13 custom ROM, as will later bootloaders. I suppose that means the later bootloaders are backwards-compatible to the older DTB (Device Tree) meta data format used in booting 4.3 ROM kernels.
I am a VZW subscriber, so I don't know if there are issues using the CM13 ROM on other carriers.
good luck
PS CM13 has WiFi and USB hotspot/tethering built in. I would be using that ROM right now were it not for some GPS issues - the whole reason I stayed on rooted MJ7 for so long was because of the hot spot bug/"feature".
Hello everybody,
I have a Moto x play running CM 13. I followed the process listed somewhere in this forum and successfully installed cm 13.
Bad news is my laptop got stolen at uni. I had installed Motorola drivers and all that stuff in there, so now I'm wondering if I can go through this process without that laptop. I hope I can.
I only have the cellphone and I would like to return it to its original firmware so I can sell it.
Is there a safe way to do this without "bricking" my phone? I'm not very well versed in these processes and managed to install cm13 only because the procedure was very clear. I hope you guys can help me!
The original carrier is Iusacell (Mexico), although the cellphone itself is unlocked and takes any Sim.
thanks in advance!
gabrsmn said:
Hello everybody,
I have a Moto x play running CM 13. I followed the process listed somewhere in this forum and successfully installed cm 13.
Bad news is my laptop got stolen at uni. I had installed Motorola drivers and all that stuff in there, so now I'm wondering if I can go through this process without that laptop. I hope I can.
I only have the cellphone and I would like to return it to its original firmware so I can sell it.
Is there a safe way to do this without "bricking" my phone? I'm not very well versed in these processes and managed to install cm13 only because the procedure was very clear. I hope you guys can help me!
The original carrier is Iusacell (Mexico), although the cellphone itself is unlocked and takes any Sim.
thanks in advance!
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to flash original firmware without PC you can use Chainfire's Flashfirehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433, however - it's still kinda experimental, needs some knowlege, and I'm not really sure if it supports our device. Reading through its thread may give you some clues. This will not revert your phone to out-of-the-box condition - that would take relocking your bootloader and PC is needed to do so (warranty will be still voided anyway). So maybe just try flashing some stock ROM in TWRP. The procedure will be the same as flashing CM.
minimale_ldz said:
to flash original firmware without PC you can use Chainfire's Flashfirehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433, however - it's still kinda experimental, needs some knowlege, and I'm not really sure if it supports our device. Reading through its thread may give you some clues. This will not revert your phone to out-of-the-box condition - that would take relocking your bootloader and PC is needed to do so (warranty will be still voided anyway). So maybe just try flashing some stock ROM in TWRP. The procedure will be the same as flashing CM.
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I feel more comfortable with the second option. I found this github with MXP ROMs for my country and carrier: https://github.com/motoxplay/stock
I honestly can't remember if I had it at the beginning with Android 5 or 6. What happens if I flash Android 6 and it originally was 5? I suppose I should make a backup "nandroid" first.
BTW, can the bootloader be locked again via a new PC?
gabrsmn said:
I feel more comfortable with the second option. I found this github with MXP ROMs for my country and carrier: https://github.com/motoxplay/stock
I honestly can't remember if I had it at the beginning with Android 5 or 6. What happens if I flash Android 6 and it originally was 5? I suppose I should make a backup "nandroid" first.
BTW, can the bootloader be locked again via a new PC?
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Flashing newer firmware won't break anything, it's a normal update. Worse thing would be if you tried to flash Lollipop over Marshmallow.
Making backup is always a good idea, do mind however, that flashing full stock firmware means overwriting your TWRP with stock recovery. Also, be aware the files you linked are actually firmware and not TWRP flashable zips.
And yes, you should be able to relock bootloader with original firmware.
Hi.. I'm in way over my head trying to install a more debloated Rom than the original stock. Unfortunately I didn't succeed very well.
I tried two different ROMS and both of them turned the Sim off and on every second or so. Lots of *pling* noises followed by a message that the Sim card was or wasn't present. It changed so much back and forth that I didn't even get a chance to enter the pin. I belive it is because of some combabillity issues between the rom and baseband/radio version
This lead me to the question: How do I know what rom and baseband would be the most suited for me? I'm living in Denmark (nordic country), but I simply can't figure what rom that is compatible with what baseband.
Boot into Odin mode and verify the model number. Then go to Sammobile.com, download a rom for your country,and install it with Odin.
Did you buy the phone in the country where it is being used?
came99 said:
Hi.. I'm in way over my head trying to install a more debloated Rom than the original stock. Unfortunately I didn't succeed very well.
I tried two different ROMS and both of them turned the Sim off and on every second or so. Lots of *pling* noises followed by a message that the Sim card was or wasn't present. It changed so much back and forth that I didn't even get a chance to enter the pin. I belive it is because of some combabillity issues between the rom and baseband/radio version
This lead me to the question: How do I know what rom and baseband would be the most suited for me? I'm living in Denmark (nordic country), but I simply can't figure what rom that is compatible with what baseband.
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I noticed you'd posted a duplicate thread, I'm guessing it was by accident but I've removed it for you
Regards
Sawdoctor
Sorry if what I'm asking is obvious, but when I install a custom rom, I also need to make sure I install a compatible radio for my area, right?
Sammobile is only stock ROMS, right? And I'm trying to debloat her phone. So when installing a custom rom from this forum and either the reception is bad, it doesn't register Sim card properly or the like.. It might be because I need another baseband than the one that came with the rom right? And what do I need to look for in that regard?
Sorry, but I find it pretty complicated.
I recommend flashing a completely stock ROM, set it up, and make sure everything is working properly. If it doesn't work properly on a stock ROM, it is unlikely it will work properly on a custom ROM.
I find it best to run the latest bootloader and modem regardless of which ROM will be used with the phone.
Problems can sometimes occur when flashing current ROMs over old bootloaders and modems.
audit13 said:
I recommend flashing a completely stock ROM, set it up, and make sure everything is working properly. If it doesn't work properly on a stock ROM, it is unlikely it will work properly on a custom ROM.
I find it best to run the latest bootloader and modem regardless of which ROM will be used with the phone.
Problems can sometimes occur when flashing current ROMs over old bootloaders and modems.
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Thank you for the already helpful reply.
The thing you say about always flashing newest modem regardless of rom, is very helpful. I didnt even know you could do that. But my problem persist:
I already flashed back to stock, and it runs fine. SO far so good. The problem is that out of 16 GB, the bloatware is justing taking up to much space. But the last two rom I tried both had problems recognising the SIM card (toggled present/not present all the time).
Thats not the case on stock.. So how do I find the proper modem for my phone to use with a custom rom?
I keep seeing a link to sammobile, but all I can find is the bloated stock rom (or I dont know what to look for). Can I grab just the modem somewhere?
When installing a custom rom, it changes the current modem right? AFAIK I have to flash the proper modem afterwards, right?
And therein lies my problem: I dont know how to find the most suited one for my country (which is denmark). And the one that comes with the roms seems to be the wrong ones.
PS: A follow up question: Kernel and baseband/radio/modem is not the same, right? The kernel is not region specific, as the baseband/radio/modem, right?
came99 said:
Thank you for the already helpful reply.
The thing you say about always flashing newest modem regardless of rom, is very helpful. I didnt even know you could do that. But my problem persist:
I already flashed back to stock, and it runs fine. SO far so good. The problem is that out of 16 GB, the bloatware is justing taking up to much space. But the last two rom I tried both had problems recognising the SIM card (toggled present/not present all the time).
Thats not the case on stock.. So how do I find the proper modem for my phone to use with a custom rom?
I keep seeing a link to sammobile, but all I can find is the bloated stock rom (or I dont know what to look for). Can I grab just the modem somewhere?
When installing a custom rom, it changes the current modem right? AFAIK I have to flash the proper modem afterwards, right?
And therein lies my problem: I dont know how to find the most suited one for my country (which is denmark). And the one that comes with the roms seems to be the wrong ones.
PS: A follow up question: Kernel and baseband/radio/modem is not the same, right? The kernel is not region specific, as the baseband/radio/modem, right?
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Custom ROMs can't change your modem, they can't write to those partitions.
In other words, your modem will be the same no matter what. The only way to change it is to flash the appropriate modem files or an actual stock ROM.
SO with the stock rom working now, the modem/rom combination would not be the culprit if something doesnt work afterwards?
What could have been the issue with the sim card connecting and disconnecting every second on the other rom I tried? (Iperium/Imperial something)
came99 said:
SO with the stock rom working now, the modem/rom combination would not be the culprit if something doesnt work afterwards?
What could have been the issue with the sim card connecting and disconnecting every second on the other rom I tried? (Iperium/Imperial something)
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What I said is that a custom ROM can't change your modem. But that doesn't mean it can't be affected by your modem.
You may want to read Imperium ROM's install instructions very carefully, cuz I'm pretty sure you missed something important.
Doh.. You might be right.. Ill try flashing the tar files in Odin.
But I just recently got my phone to behave when connecting on Odin.. It also connected back and forth all the time. Putting a USB hub in the middle solved it though (and made it possible to revert to stock). Any idea wht that was about? I reckon either some driver or USB power problem? But Im really fumbling understanding it all, and when it acts up at the same time, even the most simple problems can be hard to see through (because there is always the uncertainty that I misunderstood something basic)..
Just having this conversation helped me understand a lot better how the ROMs and modem is connected (or more precise: How they are not).
And I actually may have had the right baseband all along (Nordic Countries). I will know when I tried flashing the rom again.
Thank you very much
It doesn't matter where you are from, the phone should work with any baseband in any country.
The thing is that some ROMs (like Imperium here) may require a different modem to function properly. In this case, it may require the PG1 modem (listed in the Imperium thread) to solve your problems.
Before flashing a stock ROM, confirm the model # in download mode.
If you want a debloated stock ROM, you could flash a stock ROM, flash TWRP recopvery, flash supersu for root, and use Titanium Backup to freeze or uninstall apps.
So right now I tried flashing the Resurrection Remix ROM, but it wont make any calls (a voice just says that the number cant be reached, even though I know the numbers exist). What could be the case there?
The modem and bootloader may be too old.
can it also be to new?
I have consulted the below site several times, but the link is dead to the page where I can look up what modem to use.
Can someone please point me in the right direction of which to use?
This site: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192025
What modem should I choose for my phone? Living in Denamrk and trying with the ressurection remix rom? I tried 3 different of the modems starting with XX but all have the same problem: I cant make any calls. It just says that "there isnt any members on the selected number".
Making calls works fine on stock rom
came99 said:
This site: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192025
What modem should I choose for my phone? Living in Denamrk and trying with the ressurection remix rom? I tried 3 different of the modems starting with XX but all have the same problem: I cant make any calls. It just says that "there isnt any members on the selected number".
Making calls works fine on stock rom
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The ones linked in the Imperium ROM thread are the newest.
And no, it can't be too new.
It's probably something related to your phone model not being fully supported by the ROM.
JDCTeam ROMs should work, because they support a wide range of S4 models.
I got stock rom to work (again again)
And now I managed to flash the JDC Team you recommended and still having the baseband from the stock rom (Which were able to make calls)
But whatyaknow.. I STILL cant make outgoing calls on the custom roms! What in the world can be the problem? I spent the whole day on this.
.. I should be able to make outgoing calls without flashing Gapps, right?
Yes, you should be able to make calls without gapps.
You flashed the latest stock rom and confirmed everything works?
You confirmed the model number in download mode?
First of all hello to everyone!
I have quite weird problem:
I have my phone rooted and customized since day one - Installed KitKat, tried some launchers, unlocked UPSM and so on.
It ran flawlessly for nearly 4 years.
Recently, for no particular reason I decided to wipe&refresh it and maybe install some totally custom ROM.
NOW: I can install ROMS like Lineage 14.1, 15.1 or Resurrection Remix 6.0 and they run fine except (yes, You probably guessed it) they mess up baseband and IMEI.
I can still revert to original 4.4.2 stock ROM and both baseband and IMEI work fine so i'm not in any "brick panic"
The point is I still want to move to some custom ROM but can't sort out baseband-modem and IMEI problem.
I tried to flash several different modems to no avail - sometimes (totally randomly) IMEI showed up on first boot after flashing but was gone after reboot.
- On my current 4.4.2 stock, IMEI shows up correctly NO MATTER which modem version I flash (is it weird or normal or what?)
- none of modem versions work on Lineage OS nor RR
- SIM card works flawlessly on all other devices and on my current 4.4.2 ROM so it's not damaged.
Is it matter of proper custom ROM+MODEM combination or something else?
Can anyone help to sort it out?
What more information do You need?
Thanks in advance!
Flash the latest lollipop stock firmware to update your bootloader.
Yeah, meanwhile I did flash lollipop an hour ago and it works fine with IMEI and all.
Latest version I could find for my phone was Lollipop 5.0
How can I tell if bootloader is updated?
Can I Flash sole bootloader independently via Odin?
Mikuda said:
Yeah, meanwhile I did flash lollipop an hour ago and it works fine with IMEI and all.
Latest version I could find for my phone was Lollipop 5.0
How can I tell if bootloader is updated?
Can I Flash sole bootloader independently via Odin?
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Yes you can. Go to this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/bootloader-baseband-bl-cp-samsung-t3582504
Thank You all for help and pointing to right direction!
Taking care of proper bootloader version was the key step that sorted things out.
Now I'm enjoying superlite bloatware free 8.1 oreo with LineageOS 15.1 on great 4 yrs old device.
And it works super smooth. Way better then original 4.4.2.
Now I'm being tempted to push the limits and try 9.0 Pie with LOS 16...
Whenever flashing a stock ROM with Odin, the stock ROM includes a bootloader and modem file.