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Redmi 3S pro or 3 pro

I am looking to buy a new phone and right now I am split between the Redmi 3 pro and Redmi 3S pro. I love the way they look on paper. The battery, the lack of a 1080p screen is a pro (I find 1080p screens on <6" phones useless, 900p should be the norm here), the size, the price, the RAM.
The only difference I know is in the SoC. The one in 3S looks more future-proof (Adreno 505), but it's useless to be future proof if no one is taking advantage of that.
I know I should give it time, but the only people talking about the 3S are "thanks" commenters on the miui forums. Google searching that phones yields results for the Redmi 3. It has no global ROM. There are 3 threads about it on XDA, none having a reply.
Which one should I go for?

man what are you talking about.720p is more than enought for redmi 3.why do you want to waste battery and performance for just a 1080 p screen which is useless in real life.redmi 3 has very good screen.ya 3s is futureproof and redmi 3 does not has global rom bt i am happy with chinese stable cause its more stable than global rom + it gets update faster.and its not too hard to install plastore ya know.

Sorry, all that's mentioned there were pro's. I personally HATE that they need to put 1080p screens on everything, 440 dpi is overkill...
What about MIUI killing apps in the background? I read about that a lot.

miui killing background app? just lock that app in task manager then it will stay there till u kill the app urself

Anything you get will be great. All the phones you are considering are just as good. So if you can find one of the phones at a better price, get it. You won't be disappointed. However I find that development is lacking on the Redmi 3. While there are a lot of ROMs, they have their bugs. This is a pretty new phone so it will get updates on MIUI. As long as you like the skin, you will be good.
I personally can't stand MIUI so I'm glad I got the Mi4c. You should consider it too. It's got a 1080p display and a better processor (SD 808) but only 3000mah battery (which still gets me 6 hours SOT) and no SD card.

My vote would be for the 3S and hope it gets some dev support.

Just ordered a Redmi 3s

Mi4c was my first option before some local retailer advertised Redmi 3S and I found about them. Still, Redmi 3S it's like 70% of the price of the Mi4c here and that battery.... That battery. I dislike miui too, but global ROM is coming.

Snapdragon 430 supports quick charge 3.0 so I assume it is supported by the 3S model. This is a good reason for choosing 3S

Zenfone 3 Development

Hello guys.
I currently own a Zenfone 2 ZE551ML running CM13.
I fell in love with the ZE552KL (I wanted to buy the Zenfone 3 deluxe version but its way out of budget)
I can acquire the ZE552KL for fairly cheap but what's setting me back from getting one is the possibility of not having Lineage OS support since I don't like the bloated ASUS ROM although there is a custom debloated version in here.
Also the ZF2 was an X86 phone and the community support was quite big, so I assume that the successor with a Snapdragon will have an even bigger community
The question is: Can I buy it and expect a RR or LOS ROM in the future or not ?

This is a big issue, at the moment we do not have custom rom yet. I hope Lineage OS will support our device, I tried it on my Nexus 7 2013 and it is really good.

Possibly, possibly not. Keep in mind that ROM developers are hobbyists developing ROMs in their spare time. It just so happens that there isn't a very large developer community for the Zenfone 3 compared to the Zenfone 2. The Zenfone 2 had a huge amount of publicity behind it - really decent specs for a really great price, in an age where budget phones were getting really good, but still had slow low-end processors. The Zenfone 2 got covered by every major tech website, and was largely received pretty well by enthusiasts. And thus, it had a decent dev community. Issues with the Zenfone 2 started to crop up before long though, and the hype died down pretty much as fast as it came in. Nowadays the only reference you'll find to the Zenfone 2 on forums and around the internet was that it was a phone with great specs, but terrible quality assurance, even worse software, and very bad update support to boot. Because of all this, the enthusiast crowd that the Zenfone 2 aimed to cater to mostly drifted away from the ASUS brand over to OnePlus, Motorola, and Xiaomi - just to name a few. It's a shame, since the Zenfone 3 mostly fixes the problems the Zenfone 2 had and is actually a really nice phone. And it's unlikely that ASUS is going to get the enthusiast crowd back - at least not any time soon. The Zenfone 3 is just not priced competitively in most markets. In the U.S. for example, the phone costs almost as much as the OnePlus 3T, a device with tons of developer support and much higher specs. In some markets it's priced better (it's a steal here in Canada), but it won't be enough to draw back the enthusiast crowd for the foreseeable future.
As it stands now, the user base of the Zenfone 3 is relatively small. With most of the enthusiast market gone (they fled the ASUS brand after the disaster that was the Zenfone 2), all that's really left is a small group of dedicated fans. So far all the ROM development for this phone have been lightly modified versions of the stock ROM, and there is no sign of any other ROMs being in development right now. Unless you can deal with the stock ROM - which, for what it's worth, has gotten much better in Android Nougat - I wouldn't recommend this phone if you're hoping for custom ROM support. Maybe this'll change in the future, but for right now, I wouldn't place any bets on there being any more custom ROMs released in the foreseeable future.

I was reluctant to buy the Zenfone 3 given that there are no custom ROMs available yet. I was also was very interested in a phone from OnePlus or Xiaomi, but the price difference was just too high. However, I just could not find any other phone with the specs that I wanted without spending at least $150 more (in Canada).
Although I am hoping for LineageOS for the Zenfone 3, I find the stock software tolerable. My old Zenfone 2 was the first phone that I have had that I could live with the stock ROM. The Zenfone 3 is marginally better and the battery life is the best I have experienced (even compared to my work iPhone).
One the one hand, I want to encourage people to get this phone (the more users, the more likely custom ROMs will be made). On the other hand, I am reluctant to recommend this phone as there is no certainty that LineageOS will ever be made for it.
BTW. The NewEgg deal on eBay is really good. To me, hands down the best value phone currently in Canada.

What made think of buying a Zenfone 3 is the fact that if I settle for an used it it will cost half of the One Plus 3
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PedroCaseiro said:
What made think of buying a Zenfone 3 is the fact that if I settle for an used it it will cost half of the One Plus 3
Sent from my Asus ZenFone 2 using XDA Labs
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That's probably not a bad deal then, again if you can tolerate ZenUI. The hardware is much improved over the Zenfone 2, the build quality is suddenly amazing. Specs in the ZE552KL actually are about the same as in the Zenfone 2 ZE551ML though when you look at pure performance. Battery life is great, and the camera suddenly doesn't suck either. The fingerprint reader is fast, too. The lack of NFC is unfortunate, and the camera app is still pretty much unchanged from the Zenfone 2 (so, slow in other words). Still, I'd say for the price it's pretty good, and certainly a better phone overall than the Zenfone 2.

Should i buy a Xiaomi Mi A1?

Hello guys. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 5. Its 1.5 years old. I want to change my phone because of updates. İt wont take any updates after Nougat. And i decide i dont like Touchwizz after this phone. I will give my Note 5 to my father and take a phone. In my mind, there is three choice. First one is Xiaomi Mi A1. Its Android One phone and will take Android P too. Other hand i can take a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro. But i dont like 18:9 screen. I like MIUI but it wont take updates longer. Third one is Xiaomi Mi A2. Someone says, it will have Surge S2 processor. So i cant trust new cpus. Qualcomm is old in this world and its trustable. What do you think about ? What should i do ?

ThePscho said:
Hello guys. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 5. Its 1.5 years old. I want to change my phone because of updates. İt wont take any updates after Nougat. And i decide i dont like Touchwizz after this phone. I will give my Note 5 to my father and take a phone. In my mind, there is three choice. First one is Xiaomi Mi A1. Its Android One phone and will take Android P too. Other hand i can take a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro. But i dont like 18:9 screen. I like MIUI but it wont take updates longer. Third one is Xiaomi Mi A2. Someone says, it will have Surge S2 processor. So i cant trust new cpus. Qualcomm is old in this world and its trustable. What do you think about ? What should i do ?
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Yes
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ThePscho said:
Hello guys. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 5. Its 1.5 years old. I want to change my phone because of updates. İt wont take any updates after Nougat. And i decide i dont like Touchwizz after this phone. I will give my Note 5 to my father and take a phone. In my mind, there is three choice. First one is Xiaomi Mi A1. Its Android One phone and will take Android P too. Other hand i can take a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro. But i dont like 18:9 screen. I like MIUI but it wont take updates longer. Third one is Xiaomi Mi A2. Someone says, it will have Surge S2 processor. So i cant trust new cpus. Qualcomm is old in this world and its trustable. What do you think about ? What should i do ?
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I also had a Samsung Note 5 and I exchanged it with Mi A1 on olx. And I'm pretty happy with the device. RAM management and performance is at par with the Note 5. My note 5 didn't have a good battery backup and I had to charge it at least two times in 24 hours, but with this Mi A1 one full charge lasts me for over 24 hours.
The only thing I have felt was better on the Note 5, is the front facing camera. But that is just a small trade off!

hamzam4lik said:
I also had a Samsung Note 5 and I exchanged it with Mi A1 on olx. And I'm pretty happy with the device. RAM management and performance is at par with the Note 5. My note 5 didn't have a good battery backup and I had to charge it at least two times in 24 hours, but with this Mi A1 one full charge lasts me for over 24 hours.
The only thing I have felt was better on the Note 5, is the front facing camera. But that is just a small trade off!
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What do you think about roms of A1? And will someone port MIUI for this device ? I want to use Xiaomi with stock android and Miui. I love both.

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What do you think about roms of A1? And will someone port MIUI for this device ? I want to use Xiaomi with stock android and Miui. I love both.
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It will take a while for miui to happen. if you are gonna flash a rom, flash nougat for now

ThePscho said:
What do you think about roms of A1? And will someone port MIUI for this device ? I want to use Xiaomi with stock android and Miui. I love both.
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Then Redmi note 4 is a better option for you.( I'm not suggesting Redmi note 5 as ROM development has not yet begun) It has MIUI preloaded, and there are many custom ROMs available for it. There's lineage os with treble support for it too.( Pixel Experience is also there, if you want stock). Mi a1 and redmi note 4 have the same hardware. The only difference is camera and battery.

Buddy I switched to mi a1 from Galaxy S5 after 4 years of using it. It's a different world, 10x better even though I had the best available custom software for S5. Now I'm on stock out of the box Mi a1 and I love it. Just get it from a store, go on Google and search for price comparison website for your country and get it with warranty for at least 12 months.
Have in mind, it's a budget phone, you won't pay much, you'll get a great quality phone in Android One program, but it won't function as a 1k iPhone, or 500$ flagship Android, but it will "get the job done" and it does it pretty well IMO.
When it comes to roms, if you want out of the box device with no problems and no need for modifing the system , mi a1 and A1 program is the perfect solution. When it becomes boring/slow, you can always modify it as much as you want since there are and there will be dozens of roms for mi a1, and this phone as a brand won't die out anytime soon, it's as been on unbox therapy just recently.
Conslusion, it's a good choice, but get a valid warranty, don't ask me why, you can ask both Google and this forum for an answer on that question.

Can we expect ONE UI for Zenfone Max Pro M1?

Hey guys! Just a lil query, can we expect One UI for the Zenfone Max Pro M1? Redmi Note 5 pro and OnePlus 6 has received a port, not the most stable port but nonetheless. So can we expect one ui for our phone too? After using One UI on the S9+ and S8+ , I'm kinda liking it ?

Deeptesh Basak said:
Hey guys! Just a lil query, can we expect One UI for the Zenfone Max Pro M1? Redmi Note 5 pro and OnePlus 6 has received a port, not the most stable port but nonetheless. So can we expect one ui for our phone too? After using One UI on the S9+ and S8+ , I'm kinda liking it
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No offense but the port will never be as fluid as using it in a Samsung Device (I think you already know this) so it's best to buy an old Samsung device. Coming to your question, yes we will get the port atleast as GSI in the coming days. I'm no developer but I'm sure we'll get one. :laugh:

Which Device should I Upgrade to?

I have used the Redmi Note 4 Snapdragon (mido) for more than 3 years now. And I have to say that the journey has been amazing. The legendary device always amazes me by its outstanding developer front. In this journey, i have found many rock-stable Custom roms, god-level gcams (that click pictures even now that are much better than the redmi note 8 pro in some cases), outstanding Kernels, etc.
But now I am thinking of buying a new device. And due to mido, my expectations with the new device regarding development are pretty high.
Please suggest me what device I should go with, which has legendary development like our beloved note 4.
I heard that Poco F1 is legendary too. Please give your opinions.
And though I know that Pixel and OnePlus devices are legendary in development, I am not that rich to buy these phones (not even second hand, lol ). My preferred brand is xiaomi (redmi or poco).
Thanks.

AviralSri said:
I have used the Redmi Note 4 Snapdragon (mido) for more than 3 years now. And I have to say that the journey has been amazing. The legendary device always amazes me by its outstanding developer front. In this journey, i have found many rock-stable Custom roms, god-level gcams (that click pictures even now that are much better than the redmi note 8 pro in some cases), outstanding Kernels, etc.
But now I am thinking of buying a new device. And due to mido, my expectations with the new device regarding development are pretty high.
Please suggest me what device I should go with, which has legendary development like our beloved note 4.
I heard that Poco F1 is legendary too. Please give your opinions.
And though I know that Pixel and OnePlus devices are legendary in development, I am not that rich to buy these phones (not even second hand, lol ). My preferred brand is xiaomi (redmi or poco).
Thanks.
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It really depends on your budget and what you use your phone for

Noter2017 said:
It really depends on your budget and what you use your phone for
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I see that my question is too vague. So lets make it specific. Which of the following devices have the best development -
Redmi note 7
Redmi note 7 pro
Redmi note 8
Redmi note 8 pro
Redmi 8
Redmi note 9
Redmi note 9 pro
Mi A3
Poco F1
Poco X2
Poco M2 Pro

AviralSri said:
I see that my question is too vague. So lets make it specific. Which of the following devices have the best development -
Redmi note 7
Redmi note 7 pro
Redmi note 8
Redmi note 8 pro
Redmi 8
Redmi note 9
Redmi note 9 pro
Mi A3
Poco F1
Poco X2
Poco M2 Pro
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Redmi Note phones have different names and different hardware depending on where you live.
Redmi Note 9 Pro in India is the same phone as Redmi Note 9 in Europe. Xiaomi makes it really difficult for customers sometimes.
About your list, never buy a phone with Mediatek / Helio chipset. These phones never receive any support from devs. Just take a look how many Roms we have for Mido (Redmi Note 4 with Qualcomm Snapdragon) and how little for Nikel (Redmi Note 4 with Mediatek).
Redmi Note 9 Pro is the newest and has already customs ROMs available, so I personally would go for that one. The only downside of the phone could be that the screen is very very big.
Redmi Note 8 or 7 aren't that much cheaper but have older hardware.
Poco F1 is also rather old already and not a good deal anymore.
Or wait a few weeks for Mi A4. It runs pure Android One which means it will receive at least 3 years of security updates and 2 years of Android updates (Android 11 and 12 for sure). So there is no need for custom ROMs.

Thanks a lot.
Noter2017 said:
Redmi Note phones have different names and different hardware depending on where you live.
Redmi Note 9 Pro in India is the same phone as Redmi Note 9 in Europe. Xiaomi makes it really difficult for customers sometimes.
About your list, never buy a phone with Mediatek / Helio chipset. These phones never receive any support from devs. Just take a look how many Roms we have for Mido (Redmi Note 4 with Qualcomm Snapdragon) and how little for Nikel (Redmi Note 4 with Mediatek).
Redmi Note 9 Pro is the newest and has already customs ROMs available, so I personally would go for that one. The only downside of the phone could be that the screen is very very big.
Redmi Note 8 or 7 aren't that much cheaper but have older hardware.
Poco F1 is also rather old already and not a good deal anymore.
Or wait a few weeks for Mi A4. It runs pure Android One which means it will receive at least 3 years of security updates and 2 years of Android updates (Android 11 and 12 for sure). So there is no need for custom ROMs.
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Thanks a lot for your valuable suggestion!

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