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OOS vs Custom ROM

The OPX is my daily driver (for now) and photography is a HUGE part of my life. Most stable custom ROMs do have more features than the stock, but the camera app functionality and interface will never compare to the stock software. The 2 main features I use are slo-mo and manual mode. So why don't I use OOS 2.x.x? Simple, the community build based on marshmallow has massive performance fixes (especially concerning the GPU and gaming). If the camera isn't a big deal for you than go ahead and flash a custom ROM, this will add more features to your device and the cost of a great camera app. But I definitely suggest upgrading to a marshmallow or nougat based ROM (my personal favourites are CM and PA, they have many features and are pretty stable) due to the poor performance of the GPU on OOS 2.X.X.
let me know you opinions on software concerning the OPX below?

whats the point?
Anyway i find sultans HAL combined with snapdragon interface better.

marwan2704 said:
The OPX is my daily driver (for now) and photography is a HUGE part of my life. Most stable custom ROMs do have more features than the stock, but the camera app functionality and interface will never compare to the stock software. The 2 main features I use are slo-mo and manual mode. So why don't I use OOS 2.x.x? Simple, the community build based on marshmallow has massive performance fixes (especially concerning the GPU and gaming). If the camera isn't a big deal for you than go ahead and flash a custom ROM, this will add more features to your device and the cost of a great camera app. But I definitely suggest upgrading to a marshmallow or nougat based ROM (my personal favourites are CM and PA, they have many features and are pretty stable) due to the poor performance of the GPU on OOS 2.X.X.
let me know you opinions on software concerning the OPX below?
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I totally agree and that's why I went for 3.1.1. Smooth performance, best camera by far.
Sent from my ONE E1001

sniper20 said:
I totally agree and that's why I went for 3.1.1. Smooth performance, best camera by far.
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Ok.. So why not do both. Use a custom ROM and flash oos 3 camera zip. So now you have best ROM and best camera app. That is what I do.

saurabh40629 said:
Ok.. So why not do both. Use a custom ROM and flash oos 3 camera zip. So now you have best ROM and best camera app. That is what I do.
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I couldn't find the latest camera version for the OPX, could you share the camera zip + the name of the ROM you are using. Thanks?

marwan2704 said:
I couldn't find the latest camera version for the OPX, could you share the camera zip + the name of the ROM you are using. Thanks?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...enos-3-0-1-beta-camera-cm-aosp-t3386799/page1
Look at page 8. There are lots of good ROMs. I m using tipsy at the moment.

saurabh40629 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...enos-3-0-1-beta-camera-cm-aosp-t3386799/page1
Look at page 8. There are lots of good ROMs. I m using tipsy at the moment.
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Thanks for your thoughts and feedback? (camera seems a little buggy tho?)

The problem with the camera isn't the app it's self. It's the photo quality. Sultan hal uses higher iso settings to eliminate low fps during photo capturing, thus creating to much noise in the picture. That's why you can't get best of both. Furthermore that in latest OOS cam the video recording fps is normal now on, there is no need for me to change in any custom rom. ( by the time these lines are written of course, because no one knows what are talented and really hard working custom roms developers will bring us in the future)
Ps: of course I have test for long periods purity, sultan cm13, caf RR, and official cm13 in order to have a reference point.
Sent from my ONE E1001

sniper20 said:
The problem with the camera isn't the app it's self. It's the photo quality. Sultan hal uses higher iso settings to eliminate low fps during photo capturing, thus creating to much noise in the picture. That's why you can't get best of both. Furthermore that in latest OOS cam the video recording fps is normal now on, there is no need for me to change in any custom rom. ( by the time these lines are written of course, because no one knows what are talented and really hard working custom roms developers will bring us in the future)
Ps: of course I have test for long periods purity, sultan cm13, caf RR, and official cm13 in order to have a reference point.
Sent from my ONE E1001
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Yes, I agree. But the interface on OOS is much more user friendly in my opinion than any STABLE custom rom out there. Sultan hal is much more complicated for the “simple everyday OnePlus user". The most noticeable downside between the two is trying to record slo mo on any custom ROM. There would be too much zoom, too much noise and it was hard to make it play in slo mo. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.?

marwan2704 said:
Yes, I agree. But the interface on OOS is much more user friendly in my opinion than any STABLE custom rom out there
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Use a custom rom and flash the OOS camera app.
Latest camera zip here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68323579&postcount=71
Here the bugs that are writen in the first post:
ghbuur said:
bugs:
- opening recorded videos with stock player inside camera let's crash gallery. go to gallery instead or use other player/gallery
- dark picture with force flash on daylight (rom issue?)
- manual exposure limited to 2sec (rom issue?)
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I miss panorama mode from OOS. On custom rom's (sultan cm and sultanized resurection remix i think) not working

some qns to help me decide if to move to LineageOS

I am currently on Stock Nougat firmware and have been thinking of switching to Los but still undecided.
Can someone tell me how do the battery lives compare between the two?
What are the main reasons that people move to Lineage? When I used phones from LG, Samsung, HTC, I moved to custom roms to escape from the bloat wares. On Essential phone, I don't see much push factors. I'm, in fact, quite happy on Stock but of course, I haven't seen the good things with using custom roms such as Lineage yet and I hope you guys can tell me more..

We are in the same boat. I haven't been getting great battery life on stock, and I've had bouts of os freezing and unresponsiveness thats made me consider rooting. But my main reason for not rooting and going custom is losing the stock camera.

LOS is a very bare bones minimal options Rom, but a very good alternative to stock. You are not gonna be wowed with all the options in LOS, as there aren't many. It's not much different than Vanilla Android really. If you want a lot of options like Dirty Unicorns Smartbar/Fling customizable Navbar, you're going to want to flash a ROM that has it like Resurrection Remix (only a Nougat version for now). I haven't flashed any of the new Oreo ROMs like AOSIP yet, so I haven't checked to see how many features they have, but Resurrection Remix is running flawless on my PH1, and it has more options than any Rom out there. The only way to find out if it's for u is to flash some ROMs and try them out. Unfortunately, on this phone, a lot of Rom flashes require u to wipe ur entire phone, so it's a bit more of a hassle. Just make sure to back up all the things u don't wanna lose.

thanks @teostar and @Airwolf79!
How's Lineage's battery life compared to Stock?
Which is more stable? I do get hangs on stock every now and then, how's Lineage?
I saw somewhere that I can get apps to become full-screen on Lineage. Is that true?

tanwg said:
thanks @teostar and @Airwolf79!
How's Lineage's battery life compared to Stock?
Which is more stable? I do get hangs on stock every now and then, how's Lineage?
I saw somewhere that I can get apps to become full-screen on Lineage. Is that true?
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In my experience, no custom ROM I've tried has had equal battery life to stock. They haven't been bad either, but they have all been smoother with a lot less screen jitter. I think they all provide full screen immersive mode, at least I know LOS and RR do.

Thank you! Now it is clearer for me. It is a trade-off between UX and battery life.

tanwg said:
thanks @teostar and @Airwolf79!
How's Lineage's battery life compared to Stock?
Which is more stable? I do get hangs on stock every now and then, how's Lineage?
I saw somewhere that I can get apps to become full-screen on Lineage. Is that true?
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i'm on los 15.1 and i have like 6-8 hour sot depending on usage, los is as stable as it should without root and pretty smoother than stock. Full screen is not implemented for now but it should, but it's in 14.1. one handed mode too. For full screen mode in 15.1 i'm using immersives settings with adb right. btw sorry for my bad english i'm french.

nicoconepala said:
i'm on los 15.1 and i have like 6-8 hour sot depending on usage, los is as stable as it should without root and pretty smoother than stock. Full screen is not implemented for now but it should, but it's in 14.1. one handed mode too. For full screen mode in 15.1 i'm using immersives settings with adb right. btw sorry for my bad english i'm french.
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Thank you! Really useful information.
What about the camera? Is one better than the other?

tanwg said:
Thank you! Really useful information.
What about the camera? Is one better than the other?
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essential stock is fine but i'm rather use scrubber gcam which is more fast and with better portrait mode ?

using lineage and stock roms (beta) i really dont notice any day to day difference in battery consumption. If you are looking to improve battery life from stock then you might want to consider using custom kernels instead; they typically have more customization around battery life through governer tweaks underclocking under volting etc.

Just to update that I finally unlocked my bootloader to try LOS this morning. It was total disaster for me.
Firstly I haven't done this for a long time. Secondly I was not familiar with devices with a/b partition. Thirdly, I depend on Google's back up to restore my apps but, for some unknown reason, play store does not restore well in LOS.
Took me 4 hours and in the end I went back to Oreo B3. Still and upgrade from my stock Nougat.

tanwg said:
Just to update that I finally unlocked my bootloader to try LOS this morning. It was total disaster for me.
Firstly I haven't done this for a long time. Secondly I was not familiar with devices with a/b partition. Thirdly, I depend on Google's back up to restore my apps but, for some unknown reason, play store does not restore well in LOS.
Took me 4 hours and in the end I went back to Oreo B3. Still and upgrade from my stock Nougat.
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Just would like to update and blame myself for the lack of preparation when I last tried to move to LOS.
I tried again last night, and it was completed smoothly with my issues at all. Now I have a rooted LOS 15.1! It IS actually quite easy. So, as i say, i am just updating to clarify .

tanwg said:
Just would like to update and blame myself for the lack of preparation when I last tried to move to LOS.
I tried again last night, and it was completed smoothly with my issues at all. Now I have a rooted LOS 15.1! It IS actually quite easy. So, as i say, i am just updating to clarify .
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I don't think I could go back to stock rom honestly, for immersive mode alone, not to mention all the other tweaks and the performance gain.

crixley said:
I don't think I could go back to stock rom honestly, for immersive mode alone, not to mention all the other tweaks and the performance gain.
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To be honest, I was reading the forums and one of your posts was part of the reason I tried again. Can't remember the posts but I remembered your name lol. Thank you!

tanwg said:
To be honest, I was reading the forums and one of your posts was part of the reason I tried again. Can't remember the posts but I remembered your name lol. Thank you!
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Haha glad to have helped! Honestly this phone would be up for sale if it weren't for LOS and AOSiP. Night and day difference n my opinion.

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tanwg said:
Just would like to update and blame myself for the lack of preparation when I last tried to move to LOS.
I tried again last night, and it was completed smoothly with my issues at all. Now I have a rooted LOS 15.1! It IS actually quite easy. So, as i say, i am just updating to clarify .
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what is your opinion on it so far? latest LOS 15.1 vs stock oreo 8.1. What do you notice, particularly in smoothness, battery life, and stability? is it worth it? Thanks

c19932 said:
what is your opinion on it so far? latest LOS 15.1 vs stock oreo 8.1. What do you notice, particularly in smoothness, battery life, and stability? is it worth it? Thanks
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LOS is better in smoothness for me while stock has slightly better battery. As for stability, I think they are about the same. I have been fully on LOS since then as I like the features on LOS, such as ambient display, immersive mode and there has been no reason to go back.

RR is the best so far imo

tanwg said:
LOS is better in smoothness for me while stock has slightly better battery. As for stability, I think they are about the same. I have been fully on LOS since then as I like the features on LOS, such as ambient display, immersive mode and there has been no reason to go back.
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thanks for your input. how does ambient display work on LOS? does it light up on notification, do periodic screen on, or screen on upon motion? I am coming from an htc 10 sense OS so things are different.

Help me pick a ROM?

I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?

I've been trying many roms over the last 48 hours and have come out with some first impressions that may help you. The first rom I tried was resurrection remix, a mod a user made of the official one (downloaded it by accident and thought it was official, upon reading up on it the only difference seems to me armanian translation option or something) and it was OK. I noticed a few issues but it was good but everyone was raving about pixel ex. so I gave that a go. It is less feature packed but smoother, so very noticeable. Not that the other one was bad, but if I exited pubg mobile to nova launcher it was slow af. But was fine. Pixel experience is good. Its fast, fluid and with no issues. I haven't noticed any battery issues on it, definitely better than rr tho. I then heard that frankenrom was good but the download is down. But in the thread I found my favourite edition of the gcam mod for moto g5 plus yet, a very good hdr+ mod by bsg. So with frankenrom not working out I went to firehound. It was rr but a bit slower and overdone visuals. I went to rr again (official latest release this time) and I have to my surprise it was worse than the mod. I also found that it doesn't let my gcam work on it. Then I tried dirty unicorns for its supposed stability but was unimpressed by the light tweaking but still packed feeling (rr roms are good because they feel full of stuff and they are. This had the same feeling but just not as much stuff, not worth it). I'm now back on pixel ex and have no issues. Google photos works fine and both storage options are available. Battery life seems good. But I had some issues when it came to using xposed. After you install the modules and boot back up the screen doesn't display. Maybe the system less magisk might be better. It's almost a deal breaker, I love gboard but can't stand how it doesn't autocorrect in search fields and has made the mod awayscorrect a need for me. And in a rom with very little customisation it's more necessary than ever. But other than that it's great. Also it handles my bsg gcam mod the best so far.
All in all I'd recommend either rr or pixel ex. I'm liking the light and breezy feel of pe for now but will probably be on another rom my this time tomorrow. But check out the gcam it's got the best autofocus out of all the ones I've tried which I hear is a big problem for moto g5 plus owners. It's on the franked rom thread and it's urikill.apk.
I'd you have any more questions ask away, more than happy to help.
Edit: also very potter rom has moto actions, they'd be scrutinised by everyone if they didn't. And fingerprint gestures in the vast majority of roms.

64-bit custom roms is a good option. But I see you are more into stock stability, battery life, smooth UI, moto actions, gcam etc.
Dont go fully custom, just unlock and root.! install the mods (like cam2api) you want using twrp.
Moto has already taken a bad decision with a 32-bit oreo, see my point is 64-bit or not, if you are concerned about above mentioned things and as you have pointed out that at present you are satisfied with the speed and stability of stock nougat. Unlock+root+some mods might not be a bad idea as per your requirements.
Just an opinion.
Happy flashing.

Unofficial Lineage 15.1 which is Android 8.1 - I've loaded loads of ROMS on other phone and this ROM is great... no issues I can think of, great battery, great performance... the install instructions were crap but if you need a hand, let me know...

I need to say i had both Nitrogen and Bootleggers at least one week and both were smoothly great. First Nitro then Boot, in that order. But Bootleggers has a few more tweak options. In the other hand, i tried Liquid Remix only one day and was incredible with a lot of tweaks and very fast and smooth ux. Id like to hear some reviews about the three i mentioned.

Dishe said:
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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Go with pixel experience July build. It is best so far
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rajeshkoshti said:
64-bit custom roms is a good option. But I see you are more into stock stability, battery life, smooth UI, moto actions, gcam etc.
Dont go fully custom, just unlock and root.! install the mods (like cam2api) you want using twrp.
Moto has already taken a bad decision with a 32-bit oreo, see my point is 64-bit or not, if you are concerned about above mentioned things and as you have pointed out that at present you are satisfied with the speed and stability of stock nougat. Unlock+root+some mods might not be a bad idea as per your requirements.
Just an opinion.
Happy flashing.
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Is it possible to have Portrait mode in the camera in the 32 bit Oreo 8.1?

kartiklohia said:
Go with pixel experience July build. It is best so far
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Is it possible to have Portrait mode in the camera in the 32 bit Oreo 8.1?
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Of course not,
but OP seems more into stability, battery life and non-messy user experience.

rajeshkoshti said:
Of course not,
but OP seems more into stability, battery life and non-messy user experience.
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OP?

Dishe said:
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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Go for AEX rom...its too good for daily driver and no bugs...almost perfect 64bit 8.1 oreo for Potter

rajeshkoshti said:
64-bit custom roms is a good option. But I see you are more into stock stability, battery life, smooth UI, moto actions, gcam etc.
Dont go fully custom, just unlock and root.! install the mods (like cam2api) you want using twrp.
Moto has already taken a bad decision with a 32-bit oreo, see my point is 64-bit or not, if you are concerned about above mentioned things and as you have pointed out that at present you are satisfied with the speed and stability of stock nougat. Unlock+root+some mods might not be a bad idea as per your requirements.
Just an opinion.
Happy flashing.
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It's an idea but I'm actually tired of dealing with trying to stay updated on modified stock. Everytime there's an OTA, it's a major hassle to update, or I could block the update notification and jump through those hoops to stay outdated which seems silly too. Also, I was holding out because I thought Oreo would be 64-bit, which has proven performance gains, not to mention I wouldn't mind one of the newer gcam builds which will never work on 32bit. Basically, I lost interest bin waiting once I found out the stock rom would never be what I wanted.
I'll also add that every device I've ever owned has run a custom rom (with the exception of a couple of obscure devices which had none available- those were dark times). I'm not uncomfortable deviating from stock, but I'm into stable and not experimental. The Moto stock was so clean however, this is the longest I've ever been on stock with a device capable of custom!
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Unofficial Lineage 15.1 which is Android 8.1 - I've loaded loads of ROMS on other phone and this ROM is great... no issues I can think of, great battery, great performance... the install instructions were crap but if you need a hand, let me know...
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Interested in this one. Loved lineage on other devices I've had. Curious why this option isn't more popular. For some reason everytime someone mentions it, conversation quickly turns to PE.
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But what about the Google image uploads? Do they work, and don't they use up your gdrive storage? I'm not so ok with that.
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Of course not,
but OP seems more into stability, battery life and non-messy user experience.
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Yes, but are there no roms that equate for stability battery and clean ui? Because I've had roms on other devices that improved stability battery and user experience.
Thanks for all the suggestions, I'm actually not familiar with aex for example!

also last time I checked there were some roms which didnt support dual sim.
Most users dont mind occasional hiccups but no compromise with basic functionality.
You should go ahead with Lineage, its not the most feature packed rom but then one can tailor cook with different mods according to one's taste.
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Edit: ..and yes my friend if u want to ease the process of unlock+root+backup etc. here's the link to the toolkit that will help you save time and (maybe) not brick your device with readymade codes built into the toolkit.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...olkit-root-t3605203/post72255202#post72255202
Kudos to the developer.
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This comparison video may also help you a great deal, the owner of the video has put in a lot of effort. Do hit the button if you like the video, my friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qNJMeXkVIM
I guess I am gonna go with the AEX - AospExtended, best of both the worlds.
Have fun.

Dishe said:
But what about the Google image uploads? Do they work, and don't they use up your gdrive storage? I'm not so ok with that.
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I don't use online storage. I keep my photos in local storage only. So that's not a deal breaker for me at all.

I'm right now using havoc is it is a great rom with great features but I think it is draining the battery a bit faster.
So I want a good time which is stable and the battery life is pretty good.
Any suggestions??

Fererio said:
I'm right now using havoc is it is a great rom with great features but I think it is draining the battery a bit faster.
So I want a good time which is stable and the battery life is pretty good.
Any suggestions??
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No ROM is bug free, once u enter modding/flashing world u need to be prompt in trying variety of roms so that u get tailor made experience as per your usage pattern. Try other roms and u decide for urself. Afterall all this comes with a red bold DISCLAIMER.
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rajeshkoshti said:
Edit: ..and yes my friend if u want to ease the process of unlock+root+backup etc. here's the link to the toolkit that will help you save time and (maybe) not brick your device with readymade codes built into the toolkit.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...olkit-root-t3605203/post72255202#post72255202
Kudos to the developer.
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I'd stay away from that tool - I tried it last month when trying to root and most of its steps did not properly work. I ended up doing everything after unlocking bootloader manually

Actually both that tool and the video in that post weren't terribly helpful. Unlocking bootloader isn't difficult enough to need a tool and the video was a generic rom discussion, but details vary by device and he was not talking about the G5+. Im already aware of what the roms are supposed to be, but his findings on that phone might not be consistent with our own.
I do appreciate the response and trying to help, though! So it sounds like now I'm leaning towards lineage simply because I think I can get around the issues preventing me from PE, while still getting the benefits of a clean 64-bit Oreo rom.

one more thing, do we tick all the boxes while taking backup through twrp?
Have been reading lot of warnings about taking EFS and Persist backup, so whether efs and persist should be backed up separately or just tick these boxes along with entire backup?
plz suggest.

rajeshkoshti said:
one more thing, do we tick all the boxes while taking backup through twrp?
Have been reading lot of warnings about taking EFS and Persist backup, so whether efs and persist should be backed up separately or just tick these boxes along with entire backup?
plz suggest.
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If I were you, I'd backup EFS and Persist both seperately and also along with the entire backup considering how precious these two partitions are.
Another reason I'd like to give you here to make a seperate EFS and Persist backup is for cases where you just need to restore EFS and Persist partitions and not the entire ROM.
Whenever you feel like going back to stock, just restore the entire backup back.
But that's just my opinion.

Dishe said:
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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try Arrow rom it doesn't have many options but havr useful rom unlike other roms they are in the place where they should be not consolidated in one place.
And rom is super smooth IMO its more smooth than any other custom rom and everything works smoothly.

Dishe said:
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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Go for Havoc OS (By Akhil_dev) without a single thought. I am using is from last 1 month. It is fast and fluid. No need to use any xposed module or anything else for any customization. It has lots of customization options built in.

Best custom rom in your opinion

just wanna know what custom rom you guys use as daily driver and i wanna know why, also pros and cons

Try them out. To each their own and some may find this topic rude.

Check this out : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/custom-rom-t3867290/page57
It's OP6 but not much difference as you know.
The spreadsheet on the last page is pretty nice.

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just wanna know what custom rom you guys use as daily driver and i wanna know why, also pros and cons
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Treskmod

CAF PE. There's a lot of great stuff outside of XDA.

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CAF PE. There's a lot of great stuff outside of XDA.
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CAF PE has fingerprint support for 6T?

For the first time (since OnePlus 5) I've been happy with stock OOS. Even the Oreo base didn't seem as polished but now I can happily say I haven't felt the need to go to a custom ROM.
The only inconvenience is not having full/proper OMS support, so I have to reboot to see built overlays in Substratum. Other than that I have no complaints.

Honestly all these roms, even w/FP support, are not better than stock OOS.
*None are as smooth
*Obviously none are as stable
*Either a rom is jam packed with features you may find useful, but buggy as hell. Or they are stable and powerful, but the only features are to change the time in the status bar.
*No rom has been able to imitate or even out perform OOS gestures, which surprisingly is pretty important for me.
But if I had to pick one it would be Omni Rom. Most balance of all things.

The new official omnirom is great although I couldn't get microg to work. It is the only ROM that screen casting worked for me.
The stock ROM with XXX script is pretty good.
The ROM I used the longest is carbon ROM.
Best is going to be different for each user as not all users require the same options. Right now I am on omni official although microg doesn't work. Using gapps for the first time in three or five years. Kinda odd using Google apps again.

[official] [12] Pixel Experience Custom Rom

Obviously there is a new custom Rom for Pixel 3a (Sargo) based in Android 12
https://download.pixelexperience.org/sargo
I didn' t try ist out yet but just in case someone wants to try

I flashed this, though my 3a is not my daily, just a second phone for playing with custom ROMs. It all looks good without testing too much, faceunlock works.
Can't comment on kernel stuff because I flashed a custom one

I flashed it - more snappy than stock of course and it's a stock rom...works well for that! As stock, it doesn't have some features I like so I moved on but for what it is - it's a gem

I've just installed it and hot diggity dang, it feels awesome.
edit: it even updated today, awesome!

Does the camera work as well as it does on the stock ROM? I want to switch to pixel experience but the loss of gcam worries me. Nice one

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Does the camera work as well as it does on the stock ROM? I want to switch to pixel experience but the loss of gcam worries me. Nice one
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I have the same concern. If I moved to PE, will I still be able to use the official GCam from Playstore?

darklucidlynx said:
I have the same concern. If I moved to PE, will I still be able to use the official GCam from Playstore?
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Yes you can, and camera quality is pretty much the same as stock

carmechanic said:
Yes you can, and camera quality is pretty much the same as stock
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Okay thanks. I'll try this ROM when I've spare time.