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[OTA][X1068] Anyone captured the update to 5.0.2 in [KXB21.85.27]

Hey folks, I created this thread just to separate this version of 4.4.4 which can't update to Lollipop using the current OTA file outhere. So I ask if someone which have this version receive the update to try to capture and share with the people.
Currently the only way to downgrade as I understand is downgrade the firmware to the KXB21.85.23 but for this you need to unlock bootloader, which will make you loose your warranty. So for people like me stuck with this version please you this thread to don't generate more doubts in the other threads. If you have other ways to downgrade without unlocking bootloader please share!
Best regards!:good:

same here stuck at .27

Is there any overview which software Version Runs on which xt106x hardwareversion and on which Country Variant?
There were that much discussions of Different version combinations that i am probably not the only one who has lost the overview..?

This KitKat version was never an official OTA. So you can't upgrade from this version. Officialy you can't have it. Downgrade to .23 and you'll be fine!
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About loosing your warranty: you've installed the .27 update with een unlocked bootloader. So your warranty was already void. Relocking your bootloader brought it to 'Status 2' meaning you had it unlocked in the past. Never unlocked is 'status 0'. You never will get your warranty back by relocking it.

I tried it not working
smitharro said:
This KitKat version was never an official OTA. So you can't upgrade from this version. Officialy you can't have it. Downgrade to .23 and you'll be fine!
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About loosing your warranty: you've installed the .27 update with een unlocked bootloader. So your warranty was already void. Relocking your bootloader brought it to 'Status 2' meaning you had it unlocked in the past. Never unlocked is 'status 0'. You never will get your warranty back by relocking it.
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impossible to downgrade to 0.23 without unlocking your bootloader

adel pro said:
impossible to downgrade to 0.23 without unlocking your bootloader
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That's what I said! It was impossible to instal .27 without a locked bootloader, downgrading with a locked bootloader is also impossible!

smitharro said:
That's what I said! It was impossible to instal .27 without a locked bootloader, downgrading with a locked bootloader is also impossible!
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so we might recive the taste of official lollipop or not on .27 via ota on locked BL?? @smitharro

smitharro said:
This KitKat version was never an official OTA. So you can't upgrade from this version. Officialy you can't have it. Downgrade to .23 and you'll be fine!
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About loosing your warranty: you've installed the .27 update with een unlocked bootloader. So your warranty was already void. Relocking your bootloader brought it to 'Status 2' meaning you had it unlocked in the past. Never unlocked is 'status 0'. You never will get your warranty back by relocking it.
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I bought a motog 1 month ago, i'm running stock, and the version that came instaled was in fact 21.11.27.titan_retaildsds.retaildsdsall.en.03reteu, KX21.85-27, it may not have been an ota but it is at least official, it came factory instaled. So, you are wrong...

fastmugen88 said:
I bought a motog 1 month ago, i'm running stock, and the version that came instaled was in fact 21.11.27.titan_retaildsds.retaildsdsall.en.03reteu, KX21.85-27, it may not have been an ota but it is at least official, it came factory instaled. So, you are wrong...
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OK, possible... Where did you buy your phone and, more important, what is the bootloader status? If the bootloader status is 0, then you're right and I am wrong. If it's 2, then your bootloader has been unlocked in the past!

smitharro said:
OK, possible... Where did you buy your phone and, more important, what is the bootloader status? If the bootloader status is 0, then you're right and I am wrong. If it's 2, then your bootloader has been unlocked in the past!
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Bought new from Fnac in Portugal on Dec. the 16th. How do I check the bootloader status?
Please note that i'm not a devoloper, so I don't know this things deeply, but I do know what is an OTA, factory images, root...etc, meaning I Know that I haven't unlocked or rooted the smartphone.... that's why I'm telling that .27 is official, probably came preinstaled in the latest batch for EMEA region.

fastmugen88 said:
Bought new from Fnac in Portugal on Dec. the 16th. How do I check the bootloader status?
Please note that i'm not a devoloper, so I don't know this things deeply, but I do know what is an OTA, factory images, root...etc, meaning I Know that I haven't unlocked or rooted the smartphone.... that's why I'm telling that .27 is official, probably came preinstaled in the latest batch for EMEA region.
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1 - Shut down phone completely
2 - Press Vol down + power for 5 seconds
3 - Release both keys and device will boot up to fastboot mode where you can see this.
@smitharro
Got my device last week.
On .27
Device is LOCKED. Status Code: 0

pakatus said:
1 - Shut down phone completely
2 - Press Vol down + power for 5 seconds
3 - Release both keys and device will boot up to fastboot mode where you can see this.
@smitharro
Got my device last week.
On .27
Device is LOCKED. Status Code: 0
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Okay, my bad then! I was wrongly informed! So just wait and the lollipop OTA should be released in a while!
Send from my XT1068 using Tapatalk.

The main difference in this version is coming with more languages support, as I said we are stuck in this version and of course I'm not thinking in unlocking the bootloader because in case of something goes wrong in the phone I could have the luck of Amazon trade for another new or sent to Motorola and there I'am screwed ...
If someone Find anyway possible without have to unlock the bootloader fire it out!

same here...i guess we have to wait.

Actually 27 is an incremental update. Motorola has updated Moto G 2014 software page with the details.
Google launcher was update and some minor improvements.
My one was bought 2 weeks ago in Poland.
And 27 was preinstalled.

well, im in the same boat,
was using the xt 1063 version lollipop then migrated back to 4.4 stock
stuck on .24 titan retbr ds retbr en br oi br

So with the news of today saying will roll out the new update for lollipop any one if have this version and bootloader unlocked can make a favor of post here the file for this Version?

keb00 said:
So with the news of today saying will roll out the new update for lollipop any one if have this version and bootloader unlocked can make a favor of post here the file for this Version?
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Humm... i think the official OVA that was released today it's only for version .23 (Brazil, India and US) and probably the same version of soak tests, but we will see

24/01 and still no OTA update for my xt1068 in France (phone bought on amazon, having a reteu firmware)

@oiej47 same here stuck at .27

HELP, Can I downgrade to Stock Marshmallow and Upgrade to Nougat?

Hello,
Can I downgrade completly with the bootloader on Marshmallow and then upgrade to Nougat?
I want to lock my bootloader.
My G2 bricked after doing this. But I don't know if this would happen to my G4 Plus again

inFiniTyz_Z said:
Hello,
Can I downgrade completly with the bootloader on Marshmallow and then upgrade to Nougat?
I want to lock my bootloader.
My G2 bricked after doing this. But I don't know if this would happen to my G4 Plus again
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If you wish to simply re-lock your bootloader, the easiest thing is to flash this fastboot stock ROM (which is Nougat) and use the locking script as directed in the first post. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369 Of course, this may wipe your data - so back up, and the relocking may or may not work, in which case you may have to wait for a more up to date fastboot stock ROM to become available.
If you were to downgrade to Marshmallow, you cannot downgrade your bootloader and GPT partitions, at best, your existing bootloader would try to prevent you from downgrading those partitions. At worst, you'll brick your device again if you were to flash those - though we've got possible ways of fixing that, it's not a route I'd want to go down. Flashing the rest of Marshmallow is no problem, however, ensure you have the correct MM firmware for your device and territory.

Will this version work for my country(Germany) without OTA trouble?

inFiniTyz_Z said:
Will this version work for my country(Germany) without OTA trouble?
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Should be okay to flash - the 93-14 build appears to be the global build that was deployed by Motorola, and should be eligible for the 93-14.4 (March 2017 security update) whenever that arrives in the EU/UK I've flashed the stock ROM onto my XT1642 several times without issue.

echo92 said:
Should be okay to flash - the 93-14 build appears to be the global build that was deployed by Motorola, and should be eligible for the 93-14.4 (March 2017 security update) whenever that arrives in the EU/UK I've flashed the stock ROM onto my XT1642 several times without issue.
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THANK YOU IT WORKED AND THE WARNING DISAPPEARED. I am on Nougat, locked and its working like a charm
I WOULD KISS YOUR BUTT IF ITS HAVE TO BE

Pixel/Pixel XL (VZW User) Newb Support (You can Upgrade and flash with everyone else)

VERIZON UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER ONLY.
Yes you can unlock these things as long as they have never hit the network on Verizon )... EVER... (with a different CARRIER sim) I watched guy at Best Buy do it with a PIXEL and Pixel I guess the true issue is, you never know how or when they would be started especially on a refurb --- etc... Good Luck on that one...
First thread ever but the support scarce for VZW users (Specifically)and ROMs are scarce in generally. WE ARE SCARED TO DEATH to get the bootloader relocked... I've been flashing since the originally G1 and usually just keep my mouth shut stay humble and learn from every thread. I can't really find a lot of info on the VZW version and really the fear of locking the bootloader after trying so hard to get an nde64x ver on 7.1.0 to unlock was quite the endeavor in itself. I just wanted to pass along some info. Ask questions. If your an expert I'm sure this is pointless, but I just answered all of this for a friend that just switched to the Evil Red.
1. YOU CAN Flash the google updates (Not the ota but full system img using the flash all.bat)
DOWNLOAD THE FACTORY IMAGE NOT THE OTA (Google --- Factory IMG, Marlin)
- Download which ever from 7.1.0 to 8.1.0 unzip (I use 7zip but your windows programs can do the same
- Install your Fastboot/Adb and drop the EXTRACTED in your platform tools folder ... NOT the whole folder... but the items within the folder, into Platform tools (Should be 6 items including the flash all.bat) IT WILL NOT RELOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER BUT WILL WIPE YOUR DEVICE UNLESS YOU GO IN TO MOVE THE -W SCRIPT
2. 7.1.2 roms aren't working well with the A B Slot issues recovery... I was losing my mind trying to get things to flash and finally come to the conclusion... TWRP-3.1.1-0-fastboot-marling.img and .zip are the only recovery I can install to get roms to flash... If I Fastboot or flash the -1 img (twrp 3.1.1-1) or the 3.2.1-0-marlin.img I have to flash back to stock to get roms flasheable again.
- Working TWRP Nougat twrp-3.1.1-0
Flash Away At that point... If you get stuck like me and install 3.1.1-1 or the Other 3.2.1-0 I had to return to stock because of the A-B partition issues and get back to 3.1.1.0 to flash roms and Kernels.
3. Oreo 8.1.0 works with the flash-all bat (Google FACTORY image). The Oreo version will NOT relock your bootloader!!!
- TWRP works on 3.2.1-0.
- Magisk 14.5 and 14.6 work on Oreo...
- Super Su SR5 works with SU Hide 1.09
- Sound mods are eluding me on Oreo but Weta 9 Pixel is working with MANUAL MOVES--- Use at your own risk...
Right now I am on a VZW device running Carbon (LOS Based) with a Modded Google Cam (GCMOD cam )Viper4Andriod working, Franco Kernel --- ((A Lot harder than I thought on LOS to get some of the normal things working))
Ask questions if you want I'll answer what I can. Or I'll ask question of someone else to try to get an answer... Happy flashing...

So if I have a VZW pixl XL on 8.0.0 that HAS been used on vzw then Im out of luck is what Im gathering?

LeoTheRomRasta said:
So if I have a VZW pixl XL on 8.0.0 that HAS been used on vzw then Im out of luck is what Im gathering?
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Most likely, if you didn't unlock the bootloader with depixel8, back on 7.1
Sunshine team has no plans to work on unlocking newer versions, although, jcase said if someone could get temp root, he would provide an unlock...

So we're screwed. ?

Mikkey81 said:
VERIZON UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER ONLY.
Yes you can unlock these things as long as they have never hit the network on Verizon )... EVER... (with a different CARRIER sim) I watched guy at Best Buy do it with a PIXEL and Pixel I guess the true issue is, you never know how or when they would be started especially on a refurb --- etc... Good Luck on
1. YOU CAN Flash the google updates (Not the ota but full system img using the flash all.bat)
DOWNLOAD THE FACTORY IMAGE NOT THE OTA (Google --- Factory IMG, Marlin)
- Download which ever from 7.1.0 to 8.1.0 unzip (I use 7zip but your windows programs can do the same
2. 7.1.2 roms aren't working well with the A B Slot issues recovery... I was losing my mind trying to get things to flash and finally come to the conclusion...
3. Oreo 8.1.0 works with the flash-all bat (Google FACTORY image). The Oreo version will NOT relock your bootloader!!!
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So can you not flash.all.bat 7.1 image and unlock bootloader if it's vzw pixel XL?

Bryanx86 said:
So can you not flash.all.bat 7.1 image and unlock bootloader if it's vzw pixel XL?
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No you can't, because you can't flash until after you are unlocked.

I returned mine to Google and sweet talked my way into the one I have now. Still Verizon, but it was rolled back to 7.1.0.... Well and blue (my original was black). I'm not sure I could've kept the phone without actually being able to flash roms/kernels/themes. No matter who you are or what you do, the developers around android building are just remarkable at finding and fixing those little stutters and issues that drive us all nuts as well as adding those little goodies that make them fun and unique.
This was actually an argument I was having with the gentleman at Best Buy telling me the phones are all the same with the Pixel 2 a month or so ago. After a bit of discussion he also said I could immediately unlock these devices even on Verizon. I called him out and he proved it, but HAD to use an AT&T sim as the start up. Once VZW is booted past the 7.1.0 version, that it is unlockable... its over... unless someone else can find another unlocking method to downgrade without OEM unlock or a bootloader unlock method I don't know what to say. Personally I would've rolled back to the 6p or gone to the 2 and had the guy at Best Buy help me out with a sim.

This thread is so noob... Makes me cringe.

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This thread is so noob... Makes me cringe.
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Come on man... Gotta help the cause... Everyone wants options and themes... Thats why we dont have IPhones.
Verizon users dont stand a chance at catching up or learning assuming they ever had a Pixel xl on NDE63P If they want to unlock, they need to start backing up to the 6P.... which is actually still a comparable device to newer phones at a couple years old.... and then they cant even go to the store to set it up... LOL. Sooooooo many posts from Verizon Users asking about whether they can update stock or via Google images and noone answers, well, mostly because their in the wrong thread.
And yes I realize I answered the last question asked, in the original post. I still have a little patience in my old age...
NO you can not flash down to 7.1.0 because you cant run the Google img through Fastboot, without being unlocked and there is NOWAY currently to unlock, past the original build version... I believe the last unlockable was NDE63X (dont quote me on that) Sorry guys. You CAN HOWEVER flashall.bat if you are ALREADY unlocked and you will stay bootloader unlocked.

stebomurkn420 said:
This thread is so noob... Makes me cringe.
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Come on man... Gotta help the cause... Everyone wants options and themes... Thats why we dont have IPhones.
Verizon users dont stand a chance at catching up or learning assuming they ever had a Pixel xl on NDE63P If they want to unlock, they need to start backing up to the 6P.... which is actually still a comparable device to newer phones at a couple years old.... and then they cant even go to the store to set it up... LOL. Sooooooo many posts from Verizon Users asking about whether they can update stock or via Google images and noone answers, well, mostly because their in the wrong thread.
And yes I realize I answered the last question asked,...well most in the original post. I still have a little patience in my old age...
NO you can not flash down to 7.1.0 because you cant run the Google img through Fastboot, without being unlocked and there is NOWAY currently to unlock, past the original build version... I believe the last unlockable was NDE63X (dont quote me on that) Sorry guys. You CAN HOWEVER flashall.bat if you are ALREADY unlocked and you will stay bootloader unlocked.

Q>after Unlocking bootloader and installing TwRP

I'm running latest MIUI ROM global as of this moment . Will this break the OTA updates once I altered the bootloader and recovery?

no it would not.

Unlock bootloader make this device not certified

You should be able to update it .. but you won't be able to update certified apps

I see, thanks for the input guys

waiting for mine to unlock, what twrp version did you use?

this phone is not completely certified and the author of this rveviev believes that his low price is a consequence of non-affirming.
I do not know if this can move the discussion.

Can I Upgrade To MIUI 12 With A Locked Bootloader?

Wondering if it will work fine using the local upgrade feature.

MIUI 12 China Beta ROM? I don't think so...
I think it requires unlocked bootloader. (maybe I'm wrong...)

Micdu70 said:
MIUI 12 China Beta ROM? I don't think so...
I think it requires an unlocked bootloader. (maybe I'm wrong...)
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Okay, thanks for the info

You can't. The current beta release is only intended for use in China and as such you cant flash it through the System Updater. The only way to flash it outside china is through TWRP for which you'll need to unlock the bootloader.
Also I'll suggest never to try flashing anything apart from the official OTAs if your bootloader is locked. Because if something gets messed up with a locked bootloader, you'll end up with a hard brick which can be a real pain to fix. Might even end up having to go through all the EDL and Authorized Accounts mess. Once you unlock the bootloader, its fine.