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[Q] Is it worth it to install a G3 Rom on G2?

Hello all,
I've recently bought a LG G2 (D802). I've seen that there are a few ROMs which have been adapted from the G3 model to the G2: Cloudy G3, Optimus G3 and Lam Hoang G3. I have had a look to this last one and there are still some issues with the ROM.
I wonder whether it's really worth it to install one of these ROMs or it would be enough just installing G2 Exposed and changing the theme to look like the G3 one?
Obviously there are some other differences like some new applications. However since they are both based on Android 4.4.2 I don't see how much difference there could be if I use Xposed.
Here are some of the pros and cons I can see:
G3 ROMs over stock:
Camera
Keyboard
UI (G2 can be adapted to look almost the same as G3 (Tweaks box + G3 theme) though)
Less bloatware as custom ROMs get rid of them in most cases
Smart notice (is it good?)
G2 stock over G3 ROMs:
Most stable software
Less risk of virus in your phone (if you install a custom ROM you don't really know if the person who built it put some spyware in it)
Official updates (I guess official G3 ROMs won't get official updates)
Are there any new applications/features apart from above which make worth it installing these ROMs? Maybe performance benefits?
*This is not a thread to discuss whether it's good or not making custom ROMs. In fact, I want to say thanks to all those developers who spend hours trying to bring something better to our phones.
Thanks,
Javier

I too am interested in hearing responses to this. I previously came from a galaxy s3 (d2spr) and I thought many roms were worth installing on that device as many actually improved either functionality, battery life, or performance. But with my g2, I'm really content with the stock kk. I've heard the camera on the g3 roms is pretty awesome, but I've also heard of issues with hdr not working. Can't wait to hear responses.

I'm on stock, rooted rom, g2 tweaksbox, g3 theme and the camera tweak which adds some features.
It's a great way to go, everything works like a charm.
Sent from my LG-D801

You won't find a single rom that doesn't have someone complaining of issues. So far though CloudyG3 1.2 has been exceptionally stable and pretty much fully functional. Even stock has its quirks in terms of issues.

I use Cloudy G3 1.2, and after a few tweaks, it runs pretty damn smooth. I like it over stock!

Using OptimusG3 and everything is smooth as butter!

I like to add one more candidate for a G3 rom: lamhoang G3 FINAL
https://translate.googleusercontent....4358/&usg=ALkJrhiaba6cK0mY2Vsbrcc3aGQFUPvzdg
The 1st fully deodexed art compatible rom, its very snappy and i find it the best of the G3 ports so far.

I think lamhoang rom eats battery very much

yken said:
I think lamhoang rom eats battery very much
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No, i getting excellent battery life on the Lamhong roms.
8+ hours screen on my 802 and 6+ hours on the 320k

OptimusG3 V1.2
Hi,
I'm running OptimusG3 v1.2. In the beginning tried CloudyG3.
I started experimenting with G3 ROMs since it's G3 has nicer interface than G2 ROMs. It has G3 camera and keyboard. It has also G2 FM Radio apk. CloudG3 has G3 FM radio apk that crashes.
Overall good ROM but battery live could be better when you use it, In stand by is OK.

I tried the G3 rom for a few days but ultimately went back to stock rooted. The flatter, minimal theme of the G3 looks great, but that was about it. I have the VS980 which isn't fully supported for the G3 rom (yet) so I had minor data/mms issues and poorer battery life. Plus, I think the camera on the G3 is a downgrade compared to the G2 - less features/options, and pictures seemed to look a little worse.
For now, I use Nova with a G3 theme, and G2 Xposed/Tweakbox to mimic some other aspects of the interface (notification toggles, status bar tint, etc)

I'm running CloudyG3 and i'm really enjoying it so far, the new 1.2 update added all the missing things so now im super happy
Sent from my LG-D802 using XDA Free mobile app

javism1 said:
Hello all,
G2 stock over G3 ROMs:
Most stable software
Depends. Roms can be built from modded stock roms. It could be argued that removing bloat will result in a more stable rom.
Less risk of virus in your phone (if you install a custom ROM you don't really know if the person who built put some spyware in it)
Well, we KNOW of carriers that add spyware to our phones. Also, many devs post their source, so there's that...
Official updates (I guess official G3 ROMs won't get official updates)
Does this even matter when you can just update the custom ROM? You want the latest carrier update that bad, you'd only have to wait a couple hours.
G2 can be adapted to look almost the same as G3 (Tweaks box + G3 theme)
This is more a lack of a con than a plus.
Are there any new applications/features apart from above which make worth it installing these ROMs? Maybe performance benefits?
Thanks,
Javier
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See above

lastdeadmouse said:
See above
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I've changed on the description that last point

javism1 said:
G3 ROMs over stock:
Camera
Keyboard
UI (G2 can be adapted to look almost the same as G3 (Tweaks box + G3 theme) though)
Less bloatware as custom ROMs get rid of them in most cases
Smart notice (is it good?)
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For Camera, you can install xdabbeb's camera. I read a couple of days ago that there will be an update and that his camera will be available in apk.
For the Keyboard, you can install the LG G3 keyboard as an apk http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793602

Mobius360 said:
I'm on stock, rooted rom, g2 tweaksbox, g3 theme and the camera tweak which adds some features.
It's a great way to go, everything works like a charm.
Sent from my LG-D801
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Does the camera launch directly from the volume down button when using the shortcut?
I mean does it turn the screen on too, so you can snap a picture?

icoman said:
Does the camera launch directly from the volume down button when using the shortcut?
I mean does it turn the screen on too, so you can snap a picture?
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Yes it does. Just tried it.
Sent from my LG-D801

i love the G3 rom im on cloudys g3 rom

On cloudys g3 rom been playing with settings and tweaks past few days and now I've found prefect balance of battery vs performance no bugs or complaints couple sods but kernel related and now fixed and other minor bugs I can work around till fixed great daily driver love the ui and phone is super snappy
Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk

Danzano said:
On cloudys g3 rom been playing with settings and tweaks past few days and now I've found prefect balance of battery vs performance no bugs or complaints couple sods but kernel related and now fixed and other minor bugs I can work around till fixed great daily driver love the ui and phone is super snappy
Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk
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my eyes hurt... ever heard of punctuation?
i think lg did a good job with g3 stock but apart from the interface which looks more flat, you don't get too much over stock g2.

OPO vs D855

Hi all,
New here; long time silent follower/downloader but never posted.
I had a couple of handsets spare in the house and lately have been a bit sick of iOS so decided to dust off the old OPO and G3, and to flash a custom Nougat ROM. I thought I'd end up using the OPO as it's higher spec than the G3.
I've installed AOSP-CAF 7.1 on both phones, with stock Open-GApps.
The interesting thing is that despite the OPO having 50% more RAM and the exact same CPU, the D855 feels much snappier and gives a better user experience. Any ideas on why? Is it the kernel? Bummer at the minute as I'll be forced to use the G3, even though it only has 16GB and 2GB, also with the lower res front camera. With the display being higher res as well, I'd have expected the OPO to trounce the G3! Any ideas?
Thanks!

Change ROM ?

Or change the kernel :highfive:
Seriously, I think that is due to the kernel settings. Sometimes (i remember on Omnirom)，some roms need other kernel settings to feel better and smoother

Gawd said:
Change ROM
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Why? I was wanting something stable & fast; I gather Lineage has bluetooth & Android Auto issues which are both deal breakers for me.
natheux said:
Or change the kernel :highfive:
Seriously, I think that is due to the kernel settings. Sometimes (i remember on Omnirom)，some roms need other kernel settings to feel better and smoother
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Hmmm, thought it may have been the kernel. Looks like it's some trial and error then!
Thanks.

Lol even stock Cos13.1 of OPO will perform better than Lg G3 for sure.

Mr.Ak said:
Lol even stock Cos13.1 of OPO will perform better than Lg G3 for sure.
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That's what I thought too, but when I got the ROM running on the G3 it was definitely smoother. Any suggestions for ROMs/Kernels?
Definitely want Nougat and definitely minimalist/stock Gapps. Don't like the funky custom looks on a lot of builds.

mr_rodge said:
That's what I thought too, but when I got the ROM running on the G3 it was definitely smoother. Any suggestions for ROMs/Kernels?
Definitely want Nougat and definitely minimalist/stock Gapps. Don't like the funky custom looks on a lot of builds.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/nightlies-idprophecys-unofficial-t3544385
This is a stable rom based on latest lineage os with builds updated regularly and optimized kernel for as smooth as it gets performance.

Mr.Ak said:
Lol even stock Cos13.1 of OPO will perform better than Lg G3 for sure.
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Mr.Ak said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/nightlies-idprophecys-unofficial-t3544385
This is a stable rom based on latest lineage os with builds updated regularly and optimized kernel for as smooth as it gets performance.
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Bluetooth work? Understand there's problems with official Lineage.

mr_rodge said:
Bluetooth work? Understand there's problems with official Lineage.
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No,Bluetooth works perfectly fine.Moreover if you encounter any other issues,the developer of this rom is kind enough to fix it for you.

Had a look through the thread for it, looks promising. All this though, and I dropped the OPO last night. The repair shop has it now, and they've never heard of one. Won't read the sim. Eeek.

Will the G6 be ever stutter and lag free?

Well, coming from an S7E, the major issue I have with the G6 is how slow it is when opening contacts, to apps, to camera. I still have my S7E and everything opens faster on it. I know the SD 821 is quite capable, so it must be the LG UI that's making it slow.
I have a couple of questions,
1) I have the 870DS and looking at the trend I may never be able to root. So can someone who has an US version with a custom rom tell me if it has made the phone any faster?
2) And also does anyone here know at all if the 870DS version has any hopes in future for unlocking the bootloader?
Thanks guys. Cheers.

Unlocking the bootloader no, unless it gets cracked which I doubt. Has not happened since the G4.
Custom roms can make the phone faster because they remove a lot of features and run stock Android but almost always the Camera app will really be bad on custom roms (unless based on stock rom).
I have a Pixel and G6. Pixel is known to be probably the smoothest Android phone to this day.
The G6 does not really lag behind it at all. The animations are smoother on the Pixel but thats about it.
I had some intial lag the first day with the device but thats about it.
If yours is lagging consider a factory reset maybe.

@shri080
Do a factory reset in the settings. This helped a lot of people who have lag issues. There is an extra thread for this.
Do a backup of your apps before doing it!
Sent from my LG G6 (H870)

shri080 said:
Well, coming from an S7E, the major issue I have with the G6 is how slow it is when opening contacts, to apps, to camera. I still have my S7E and everything opens faster on it. I know the SD 821 is quite capable, so it must be the LG UI that's making it slow.
I have a couple of questions,
1) I have the 870DS and looking at the trend I may never be able to root. So can someone who has an US version with a custom rom tell me if it has made the phone any faster?
2) And also does anyone here know at all if the 870DS version has any hopes in future for unlocking the bootloader?
Thanks guys. Cheers.
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Have you tried possibly a different launcher?
As well as debloating what apps you can?
Also there's always the options in developer mode that IMO truly help with ram allocation and overall speed.

Yes the LG G6 should be lag free and smooth just like the Google Pixel or the One Plus 3T as they share the same powerful processor. I think atm most non Pixel phones are stuck with just Android 7.0 where as Pixel might be on 7.1.1 since 7.1.1 might be better on performance or smoother than 7.0. Once the amazing LG G6 gets 7.1.1 in the future I guess we should see some difference in smoothness or performance. As for unlocked bootloader or root for the LG G6 or any LG flagships, always get the international version single SIM like the LG H870 which already has custom ROMs and TWRP recovery. I don't think the dual SIM will get bootloader unlocked. LG did great optimization on it's LG UX 6.0 which is fast and smooth and is better than SD 835 or Exynos 8895 equipped Galaxy S8 and it's slow, laggy TouchWiz. Imagine the upcoming LG V30 running on Android 7.1.2 on top of LG UX 6.0 with SD 835 would make it the best favorite Android phone of all time! Go to Settings/Developer Options/tick on "Force GPU Rendering" should make the beast smoother or snappier. If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store.

Have you went to developer options and reduced animations, this will make your phone faster

bossofindy said:
Have you went to developer options and reduced animations, this will make your phone faster
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This doesn't really make it faster, just makes animations move faster, which personally looks worse to me.

You must be kidding, the G6 is the smoothest running phone i bought to date. I have the 870DS with around 30 apps installed.
My previous Phones were the Note 2, S5 and Note 4. This is what i call laggdroid, horrible...

No lag here, smooth for me
Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk

Okay, so i formatted my phone and set it as a new device instead of restoring apps from the previous device. This has over all made the device a tad bit faster and i am kind of happy about it now. Also, my main issue was, the dialer/contact app would always open almost a second late behind my S7E, after the reset it became a bit faster but i was still not happy, So just tried a third party dialer app and trust me it works like a charm!!! Now the dialer app opens as quick as it does on my S7E Since that's the thing i use my phone mostly for, it was so irritating that it lagged a second or half a second behind my S7E. Thankfully now it's all fine
Also, reducing the animation speed makes it more jerky and ugly and it doesn't really speed up the device at all. Hopefully as and when we get 7.1 update, the UI may be smoother

Android 8.0 will fix all lag and battery issues I'm super sure of it its only a matter of time

I honestly think G6 is pretty smooth, this is coming from S8. There ARE times that it stutter, but it's been the LG way unfortunately. If there's one lag I could remove, it's the camera launching lag.

cy88 said:
I honestly think G6 is pretty smooth, this is coming from S8. There ARE times that it stutter, but it's been the LG way unfortunately. If there's one lag I could remove, it's the camera launching lag.
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I believe there's a fix for camera launch lag, you just have to look for it.
Also, Fulmics rom makes this phone faster and smooth as baby's butt, so if you're rooted and would like an amazing OEM-based rom, this is it

WstrKuNoužč said:
I believe there's a fix for camera launch lag, you just have to look for it.
Also, Fulmics rom makes this phone faster and smooth as baby's butt, so if you're rooted and would like an amazing OEM-based rom, this is it
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I agree, the G6 is already smooth as it is, without root and without a custom ROM but knowing me, I went ahead to install Fulmics ROM & boy oh boy it is smooth.

yurushi said:
I agree, the G6 is already smooth as it is, without root and without a custom ROM but knowing me, I went ahead to install Fulmics ROM & boy oh boy it is smooth.
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Hell yeah!
Had it on my G3 and since then i don't even miss stock android roms anymore.

I also find the G6 to be a nice smooth phone. But I also have issues with a slow and laggy dialer app. I don't think it's then phone in that case, I think it's the actual app that isn't properly coded/built. Just doesn't seem that good.
I use Google contacts instead, does the job fine, but i left the stock dialer. I rarely use it, usually make calls from contacts, so the occasional time i DO use it, isn't a big deal.

Need to try out roms which actually work with my damn phone! (G900I)

I've been pretty frustrated lately, this stock touchwiz ui is so full on crappy bloatware that it consumes 70% of my ram, even though the full ram is only at 1.67GB, whatever rom I try either the nfc doesn't work or the phone stays very hot and drains the battery quickly!
Can anyone help out on a good rom my S5 G900I?
Help is greatly appreciated.
TIA!

a safe haven said:
I've been pretty frustrated lately, this stock touchwiz ui is so full on crappy bloatware that it consumes 70% of my ram, even though the full ram is only at 1.67GB, whatever rom I try either the nfc doesn't work or the phone stays very hot and drains the battery quickly!
Can anyone help out on a good rom my S5 G900I?
Help is greatly appreciated.
TIA!
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I wouldn't look too much at numbers like RAM and cpu speed. I always ask myself: does it lag? how long does it last? . S5 seems to do ok with those questions even with stock ROM IMHO. Root + right apps/ mods and debloat should boost that even more.
Custom ROMs are always better of course. our G900I unfortunately misses out on the main development scene on XDA with 900F being the global version. Many of these ROMs actually run pretty well on 900I (my fav being phoenix ROM) but as you said the problem with these is that NFC don't work.
There was really only one ROM that I have tried that has been fully functional: Xtrestolite (touchwiz based) is excellent and light while having all features. The only con is that it is a lollipop ROM and few mods. especially theming i found lacking.
In theory omega ROM (touchwiz based) should be good too, but I've never tried. The old lollipop version supports 900I.
Alliance ROM (touchwiz based) looks good too in theory. I could never get it working well with the theming though... but never spent too much time with it. Alot of the mods seemed to rely on a cloud/data base that has been taken down.
Ressurection remix I found great. Every thing works fine. Battery to me is about the same. Its fast. Plenty of mods, theming and features. It is AOSP based. After a fair bit of use, I realised 2 things that differed: 1. camera sucks more 2. can't video call through the calling app. Everything else is just as good or better i reckon. Substratum themes = awesome. I'm currently on RR 5.8.5. It is Nougat 7.1.x . There is also an oreo version of RR but there are no custom kernels for oreo AOSP roms for our device so I'm sticking to nougat for now.
If any further questions or help required, ask away.
edit - there is a smartpack kernel for G900I/ kltedv oreo. However NFC doesnt seem to be working on it and I found oreo RR lacking in performance, stability and features compared with the Nougat versions. It is only in beta, so hopefully this will be ironed out in the near future.

a safe haven said:
I've been pretty frustrated lately, this stock touchwiz ui is so full on crappy bloatware that it consumes 70% of my ram, even though the full ram is only at 1.67GB, whatever rom I try either the nfc doesn't work or the phone stays very hot and drains the battery quickly!
Can anyone help out on a good rom my S5 G900I?
Help is greatly appreciated.
TIA!
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LineageOS is officially supported for your device with android 7.1 Nougat. I dont have that specific model but ive never had problems with that os on my s5.

Possible Cons of Switching to LOS-based ROMs right now?

Hi, I am planning to switch from an OOS based ROM to an LOS based ROM in the next few days. I want to know, if there are still problems with the camera in those ROMs. Like is the quality (notably) worse than on OOS, do these ROMs support the 2x zoom and the Portrait Mode (the real one, not the [admittadly good] one from GCam)? If there are problems, are there ROMs with the original OOS camera and so on where they might not exist? Are there any other real problems?
And in common: are there any great and not-so-well-known LOS-based ROMs for this phone? I am planning on using some ResurrectionRemix version (was very happy with it on my KLTE).
Thanks in advance

TheColin21 said:
Hi, I am planning to switch from an OOS based ROM to an LOS based ROM in the next few days. I want to know, if there are still problems with the camera in those ROMs. Like is the quality (notably) worse than on OOS, do these ROMs support the 2x zoom and the Portrait Mode (the real one, not the [admittadly good] one from GCam)? If there are problems, are there ROMs with the original OOS camera and so on where they might not exist? Are there any other real problems?
And in common: are there any great and not-so-well-known LOS-based ROMs for this phone? I am planning on using some ResurrectionRemix version (was very happy with it on my KLTE).
Thanks in advance
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How about this similar thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/help/stable-oos-rom-t3798167
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/help/custom-rom-oos-camera-app-portrait-mode-t3789692
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/oneplus-5-custom-rom-videos-t3740716

strongst said:
How about this similar thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/help/stable-oos-rom-t3798167
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/help/custom-rom-oos-camera-app-portrait-mode-t3789692
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/oneplus-5-custom-rom-videos-t3740716
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First: thanks for the quick answer, but that's not quite what I'm looking for. I had hoped someone with some experience with tue different ROMs could answer this directly. I looked at those threads of course, but it seems the only fitting answer was that this phoenix rom should work.

TheColin21 said:
First: thanks for the quick answer, but that's not quite what I'm looking for. I had hoped someone with some experience with tue different ROMs could answer this directly. I looked at those threads of course, but it seems the only fitting answer was that this phoenix rom should work.
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Now as you already know that the oos camera is only available on cnp, there's no alternative on every other custom rom you need to use the shipped camera or google cam or other 3rd party ones.
Quality is always a very subjective thing...

strongst said:
Now as you already know that the oos camera is only available on cnp, there's no alternative on every other custom rom you need to use the shipped camera or google cam or other 3rd party ones.
Quality is always a very subjective thing...
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cnp?

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Codename Phoenix

Aahh ok thx

I'm on LineageOS 15.1 now, and there's more positives than negatives when moving from OOS.
The ROM is smaller, zero bloatware, no spying, increased speed, increased battery life, & best of all a built-in privacy guard with an updated Trust module: https://www.xda-developers.com/lineageos-trust-centralized-interface-security-privacy/
I'm running without any Google junk on here so life is good.
Only downside is, to make the switch you have to back up all your apps via Titanium Backup and wipe everything off the phone completely. The restore the apps and data after you get the new OS on there.
Make sure you flash the latest version of OOS before you begin (assuming you are not already on it) to get the bootloader and modem updated.
Enjoy!

You don't have to wipe your phone after flashing lineage. Just flash bluspark kernel for custom ROMs, it supports encryption.

CaptShaft said:
I'm on LineageOS 15.1 now, and there's more positives than negatives when moving from OOS.
The ROM is smaller, zero bloatware, no spying, increased speed, increased battery life, & best of all a built-in privacy guard with an updated Trust module: https://www.xda-developers.com/lineageos-trust-centralized-interface-security-privacy/
I'm running without any Google junk on here so life is good.
Only downside is, to make the switch you have to back up all your apps via Titanium Backup and wipe everything off the phone completely. The restore the apps and data after you get the new OS on there.
Make sure you flash the latest version of OOS before you begin (assuming you are not already on it) to get the bootloader and modem updated.
Enjoy!
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And the camera quality?

Astur_Torque said:
And the camera quality?
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Camera quality is largely dictated by the hardware, but the OEM LineageOS camera is okay. I don't play with it much, too few features.
If you use something like OpenCamera, Snap Camera or this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/themes/mod-oneplus-camera-jpg-quality-to-100-t3714595
...you can get better results. YMMV.