My PH-1's screen died randomly and I'm trying to get my data off of it. Yes I know, shame on me for not regularly backing things up. I reached out to Essential and they suggested I purchase a HDMI to usb-c cable. When plugging in the cable on my replacement device everything looks great, but unfortunately the screen is oddly cropped when plugging in my old broken phone.
So, I'm looking for some help on how I might be able to get all my data off with my laptop. My current challenges are that the phone is locked and since I restarted the phone, my fingerprint isnt sufficient. I don't have debugging enabled nor do I have bootloader. I did enable developer options at some point before the screen went black though.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Snow27118 said:
My PH-1's screen died randomly and I'm trying to get my data off of it. Yes I know, shame on me for not regularly backing things up. I reached out to Essential and they suggested I purchase a HDMI to usb-c cable. When plugging in the cable on my replacement device everything looks great, but unfortunately the screen is oddly cropped when plugging in my old broken phone.
So, I'm looking for some help on how I might be able to get all my data off with my laptop. My current challenges are that the phone is locked and since I restarted the phone, my fingerprint isnt sufficient. I don't have debugging enabled nor do I have bootloader. I did enable developer options at some point before the screen went black though.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Without USB debugging (ADB) and a locked BL, your options don't really exist.
If the digitizer still works you might be able to plug the phone into a screen and unlock it and see enough to enable USB debugging.
tech_head said:
Without USB debugging (ADB) and a locked BL, your options don't really exist.
If the digitizer still works you might be able to plug the phone into a screen and unlock it and see enough to enable USB debugging.
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Is it possible to plug into a computer or only a tv? I plugged it into three different TV's, but every time the projected image of my phone was cropped and incomplete. I'm not able to see the entire numeric keyboard, but think I might be able to estimate if I could use a mouse.
I purchased two mice. One regular old USB mouse and a Bluetooth dongled mini remote keyboard with touchpad (h9). The USB mouse isn't recognized at all by the tv. The mini keyboard is recognized by the tv and I'm able to use it in Netflix ECT but when I'm connected to the phone in HDMI mode it displays a little message saying "not supported" when I try to use it. The tv is a Samsung smart TV that's about a year and a half.
Am I missing anything? Some other way of controlling the phone while plugged into the tv or a way connecting it to my PC and controlling it with my PC?
Snow27118 said:
Is it possible to plug into a computer or only a tv? I plugged it into three different TV's, but every time the projected image of my phone was cropped and incomplete. I'm not able to see the entire numeric keyboard, but think I might be able to estimate if I could use a mouse.
I purchased two mice. One regular old USB mouse and a Bluetooth dongled mini remote keyboard with touchpad (h9). The USB mouse isn't recognized at all by the tv. The mini keyboard is recognized by the tv and I'm able to use it in Netflix ECT but when I'm connected to the phone in HDMI mode it displays a little message saying "not supported" when I try to use it. The tv is a Samsung smart TV that's about a year and a half.
Am I missing anything? Some other way of controlling the phone while plugged into the tv or a way connecting it to my PC and controlling it with my PC?
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When I plug my phone into a monitor the monitor will rotate and the phone scales the display.
I'm using a cheap TopGeek adapter I got from Amazon.
Once you get the display stuff figured out. You should be able to unlock on the phone.
Then you can go in and enable developer debugging for ADB.
Or you can then pair a mouse and keyboard via Bluetooth.
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When I plug my phone into a monitor the monitor will rotate and the phone scales the display.
I'm using a cheap TopGeek adapter I got from Amazon.
Once you get the display stuff figured out. You should be able to unlock on the phone.
Then you can go in and enable developer debugging for ADB.
Or you can then pair a mouse and keyboard via Bluetooth.
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For some reason my tv isn't scaling the display of my old phone but does with my replacement. Are you using a computer monitor? And are you able to plug a mouse into the monitor to control the phone?
Snow27118 said:
For some reason my tv isn't scaling the display of my old phone but does with my replacement. Are you using a computer monitor? And are you able to plug a mouse into the monitor to control the phone?
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Not sure wh one would scale and the other would not.
I'm using a computer monitor.
My monitor does not support USB order HDMI. It's not a native USB-C monitor,
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Hi
I have following questions:
1) How do I use Computer USB Keyboard with Motorola Atrix ?
2) Is it possible to connect Motorola Atrix with Laptop and you can use Laptop Keyboard and Laptop Screen to see and use everything in Atrix without using Motorola Webtop laptop ?
Thanks
In the Atrix Development forum you'll find a hack that allows you to use the Atrix webtop on any monitor/TV with HDMI. Pair a bluetooth mouse and keyboard with your Atrix to use them on the webtop. Works great here, didn't even require root.
Also, if you have a HD multimedia dock, you can plug a USB mouse or keyboard into the available USB ports in the back of the dock. It works well!
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what about a wireless keyboard or mouse? like LG unifying receiver
SS2006 said:
what about a wireless keyboard or mouse? like LG unifying receiver
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see above post, that's what I am using (I forgot to specify that it was USB wireless), a Logitech (can't remember model number) wireless USB keyboard and mouse. works perfectly, even the volume buttons, etc. on the keyboard.
SS2006 said:
what about a wireless keyboard or mouse? like LG unifying receiver
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If you're not using the HD multimedia dock (via the Webtop hack), then no, you can't use them as there are no USB ports you can plug your receiver into. You will have to settle for bluetooth devices.
Callen81 has a video that shows how USB hardware can be connected to the Atrix. It requires soldering two connections, and a powered USB hub, but it can be done.
HDMI mirroring, from what I can understand from your broken English (I'm not hating, but it's true.) is not possible on the Atrix (yet!). You can, however, see the mobile OS from webtop mode in a separate window. And on the laptop, you can plug in USB keyboards and mice to the ports in the back.
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Callen81 has a video that shows how USB hardware can be connected to the Atrix. It requires soldering two connections, and a powered USB hub, but it can be done.
HDMI mirroring, from what I can understand from your broken English (I'm not hating, but it's true.) is not possible on the Atrix (yet!). You can, however, see the mobile OS from webtop mode in a separate window. And on the laptop, you can plug in USB keyboards and mice to the ports in the back.
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actually mirroring was enabled (see dev forum), but it's not as easy. it also will only show portrait mode (no landscape)
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actually mirroring was enabled (see dev forum), but it's not as easy. it also will only show portrait mode (no landscape)
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Yes, and the point is that it's still got the same, if not worse, performance that it would have on Webtop mode. At least, I think.
If the Atrix can read USB sticks (?) then would plugging a standard USB stick, which has a USB1-typeA-plug on it, require a converter that was a "USB1 Type A recepticle" converting to a "USB2-micro-TypeB-plug?
Would that be the correct nomenclature for the USB adapters, and does anyone know if you can buy that premade, or whether the Atrix absolutely will or won't recognize a USB stick that way?
I'm also looking for some USB2-micro-TypeB-plugs either on or off a wire, to try adding the drop resistor to pin 5 so I can tell the Atrix "You're in a car dock now" or just "you're in a dock now" and force it into the other modes.
I'll probably roll my own car dock, mainly because I want my Atrix (in an Otter Commuter) to be secured in the dock. Really secured, so if I flip and roll and total out the car, the Atrix is still exactly where I left it. The spring-clip jobbies will turn your phone into a missile if someone whacks into you, making calls for help impossible.
What tells the phone that it's in a dock? I can deduce that it's not just the usb being plugged in, so there has to be more to it. I bought a desktop charger/cradle thing and I want to see what happens when it thinks it's docked, but it doesn't think that.
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What tells the phone that it's in a dock? I can deduce that it's not just the usb being plugged in, so there has to be more to it. I bought a desktop charger/cradle thing and I want to see what happens when it thinks it's docked, but it doesn't think that.
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I don't have the Smartdock but assume there is a chip or some type of hardware that interfaces with the phone via usb and tells the phone to prompt for dock mode. The standard Samsung dock doesn't do it from what I have seen just the more expensive Smartdock. I also allows connection of hdmi out and interface with other usb devices so there must be a board or other electronics inside to achieve this.
Is it possible to use dex without the official dock. For instance I already have (Samsung Multiport Adapter (EE-PW700BWEGUJ)) this dock for the Samsung windows tablet.
I hope it does so we dont have to spend $150 on top of spending $850 for the phone.
Very doubtful
I have a suspicion that DeX is just a much-upgraded version of SideSync. It required an application on your PC to show your phone screen in a window. So my best guess is that DeX dock acts as a client app, like SideSync on your desktop was. So, if that's truly the case, I doubt DeX will work with multi-port adapter.
Meanee said:
I have a suspicion that DeX is just a much-upgraded version of SideSync. It required an application on your PC to show your phone screen in a window.(...)
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Dex doesn't require a PC . You have to connect it directly to display and input devices such a mouse or keyboard. So you are using it instead of PC.
In my opinion this is just a HDMI adapter with separate USB hub, network socket, and cooler. I maybe wrong, but if im right it should be very easy to connect it in PC mode without Dex or with cheap replacement.
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Dex doesn't require a PC . You have to connect it directly to display and input devices such a mouse or keyboard. So you are using it instead of PC.
In my opinion this is just a HDMI adapter with separate USB hub, network socket, and cooler. I maybe wrong, but if im right it should be very easy to connect it in PC mode without Dex or with cheap replacement.
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This was exactly the point I was trying to make. SideSync required an app on your PC. DeX' idea of replacing your PC will probably require a similar "app" to run on the dock, in order to force a full desktop.
If S8 does support video out through USB-C port, it may be just a simple screen mirroring. Or, who knows, you may get full DeX experience!
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Is it possible to use dex without the official dock. For instance I already have (Samsung Multiport Adapter (EE-PW700BWEGUJ)) this dock for the Samsung windows tablet.
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Could this app be an option/solution?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromium.os
Should work with Chromecast (30 €)
Enviado desde mi SM-G930F mediante Tapatalk
Im sure once we have custom firmwares and so, someone will make it mock dock able and then all we have to do is cast the screen or usb type c to hdmi?
I'm also wondering this. Samsung Sells a USB-C to HDMI adapter for this phone.
I want to get one and try with something called a Pi Top to build the dex into that. So we could have a dex laptop.
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Is it possible to use dex without the official dock. For instance I already have (Samsung Multiport Adapter (EE-PW700BWEGUJ)) this dock for the Samsung windows tablet.
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I hope so. the phone puts out displayport over usbc, but the dock dumbs it down to hdmi which IMO was a dumb thing to do. They should have passed through the displayport over usb signal instead. Far more flexible.
Well I just bought a USB-C to HDMI with charging port and USB port, I will try it out once TMO ships my phone.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IUXA9YK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It's probably going to be a simple part/resistor/chip that lets the phone recognise the dock, will probably see clones and alternative solutions on eBay soon enough.
Can't see the dock serving any actual function that stops you from launching Dex without it.
I could be wrong.
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It's probably going to be a simple part/resistor/chip that lets the phone recognise the dock, will probably see clones and alternative solutions on eBay soon enough.
Can't see the dock serving any actual function that stops you from launching Dex without it.
I could be wrong.
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Certainly could be some encrypted key or something that makes it more difficult to emulate. Part of the cost of the Dex unit might be for the development of the software for it, even if it is included in every S8.. you need the Dex to unlock it.
So the Galaxy S8 does support USB C HDMI TV out via any HDMI adapter as I have tried.
However, it just mirrors the screen and the DeX experience is no where to be found without actually using the DeX dock!
I can confirm @khurram87 I get the same, screen mirror and no Dex.
Yep tried it with my Samsung hdmi + usb to usbc adapter. Just Hub and Video Out.... LAME.
I plugged my phone into one of these. No desktop.
I am assuming the Dex dock has some firmware which installs on the phone when docked. Someone with a rooted Exynos S8 may be able to pull those files and create an application which would launch into Dex-mode.
Manufacturers just can't seem to resist the urge to take a standard interface and stick some proprietary something on there to restrict your options.
A few years ago it was chargers (standard mini/micro USB charger, but device refused to charge in anything but that manufacturers approved chargers) - both for phones and even PS3 controllers.
Now it seems to be HDMI adapters/docks. The S8 apparently requires the DeX dock to enter desktop mode, despite that dock being nothing more than a standard USB-C dock beneath the surface., though at least HDMI output without the DeX software still works with it. The Nintendo Switch in comparison only allows HDMI output with the official dock.
I hope somebody comes out with a third-party adapter that works with both . . .one travel adapter to let me play the Switch on the big screen, or use my phone as a pseudo-laptop would be a must-have travel accessory compared to the over-priced single-purpose official docks.
^this!
Hi all, I haven't been here for a while now, but I figure that this is the best place to put my issue besides maybe reddit. So I was trying to activate USB tethering yesterday as i do a lot in order to play some games on my computer since i don't have access to any ethernet, and something went wrong and it didn't activate despite having hit the switch on the phone. I unplugged my phone to turn it off since my computer hadn't recognized the tethering and tried to activate it again, but this time my phone only made the charging noise and wasn't picking up my computer at all. I then restarted my phone to see if that was the issue and got the same result. I then tried to plug it into my laptop to see if my computer was the problem and it did the same thing.
Today I tried plugging my phone into my laptop with my usb-c to usb-c cable (instead of my go-to usb-c to usb-a cable that came with the phone) and got some signs of life from the laptop, it makes the sound that says its plugged in, but the phone still only charges and the laptop picks up my phone as "USB root hub (USB 3.0)" and "Intel USB 3.1 eXtensible Host controller-1.10 (Microsoft)" in device manager. I also just tried clearing the cache in recovery but nothing has changed. Does anyone know what's going on here and how I can fix it?
Unrooted (duh), AT&T model (sorry idk the model numbers like i used to), latest updates and security patches etc
EDIT: power cycled it (let it die and turned it back on a few times until it wouldn't turn on again) and charged it back up again and that seems to have fixed my issue.
Quote100 said:
Hi all, I haven't been here for a while now, but I figure that this is the best place to put my issue besides maybe reddit. So I was trying to activate USB tethering yesterday as i do a lot in order to play some games on my computer since i don't have access to any ethernet, and something went wrong and it didn't activate despite having hit the switch on the phone. I unplugged my phone to turn it off since my computer hadn't recognized the tethering and tried to activate it again, but this time my phone only made the charging noise and wasn't picking up my computer at all. I then restarted my phone to see if that was the issue and got the same result. I then tried to plug it into my laptop to see if my computer was the problem and it did the same thing.
Today I tried plugging my phone into my laptop with my usb-c to usb-c cable (instead of my go-to usb-c to usb-a cable that came with the phone) and got some signs of life from the laptop, it makes the sound that says its plugged in, but the phone still only charges and the laptop picks up my phone as "USB root hub (USB 3.0)" and "Intel USB 3.1 eXtensible Host controller-1.10 (Microsoft)" in device manager. I also just tried clearing the cache in recovery but nothing has changed. Does anyone know what's going on here and how I can fix it?
Unrooted (duh), AT&T model (sorry idk the model numbers like i used to), latest updates and security patches etc
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Check the ports And cable ends for trash and lint crammed in them possibly
TheMadScientist said:
Check the ports And cable ends for trash and lint crammed in them possibly
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no dice there unfortunately
Is there a way to save something? My screen is broken and only small part is visible but not responsive. Phone seems to work fine from small parts i can tell. Is there a way to restore data or enable debugging from pc, or some kind of otg to hdmi and keyboard/mouse cabel combo. Or is it done for?
iirc you can use mouse with some usb c dongle. nothing can help with default charging mode really