Hi-Fi Audio with Custom ROM - ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers

Hello all,
I'm on the fence about moving back to using a custom ROM on my A2017U. The issue I have is that I had trouble on my last ROM using the Hi-Fi DAC, which really bothered me because part of the reason why I bought this phone was to take advantage of the better audio quality as compared to other phones at the time of its release. Presently, what's the easiest way to take advantage of the DAC on an 8.x AOSP ROM?
Thanks!

achillesphazd said:
Hello all,
I'm on the fence about moving back to using a custom ROM on my A2017U. The issue I have is that I had trouble on my last ROM using the Hi-Fi DAC, which really bothered me because part of the reason why I bought this phone was to take advantage of the better audio quality as compared to other phones at the time of its release. Presently, what's the easiest way to take advantage of the DAC on an 8.x AOSP ROM?
Thanks!
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Also, I'd like to know if there is a way to fully use Dolby Atmos with the built-in speakers on a custom ROM.

achillesphazd said:
Also, I'd like to know if there is a way to fully use Dolby Atmos with the built-in speakers on a custom ROM.
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Not sure about "fully use" but I have used Dolby Atmos on custom ROMs. Currently running the one from here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3740508
[PORT] [8.0+] Dolby Atmos™ for Oreo 20180220 [Standard/Unity]
ZTE Axon 7 A2017U, AospExtended v5.4 ROM, HellsGate Kernel, Multiboot, Tapatalk 4.9.3

marcdw said:
Not sure about "fully use" but I have used Dolby Atmos on custom ROMs. Currently running the one from here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3740508
[PORT] [8.0+] Dolby Atmos™ for Oreo 20180220 [Standard/Unity]
ZTE Axon 7 A2017U, AospExtended v5.4 ROM, HellsGate Kernel, Multiboot, Tapatalk 4.9.3
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Thanks for the reply. How about using the AKG DAC?

https://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/hires-audio-driver
http://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/uapp-trial

aosp said:
https://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/hires-audio-driver
http://www.extreamsd.com/index.php/uapp-trial
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Thanks so much! Have you personally tried this?

achillesphazd said:
Thanks so much! Have you personally tried this?
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Yes I have and I'll be surprised if any other audio player will sound more Hi-Fi then UAPP besides the craptastic stock player

achillesphazd said:
Hello all,
I'm on the fence about moving back to using a custom ROM on my A2017U.....
I guess you partly answered your question yourself. First of all, the reason to root devices and install custom ROMs have reduced drastically. Rooting and Custom ROMs were the thing when Android was in its initial stages. Now, they have grown it leaps and bounds and there isn't simply anything that a developer could add which is not present in the stock. That being said, people still root it for various reasons and I am okay with it. I used to be root all my phones but have completely stopped it in the last two years. I don't much value in rooting anymore. But that's me.
Now coming to this specific device, which is renowned for its audio capabilities. Why would you buy a phone which comes with stellar sound through both speakers and audio jack and install a custom ROM?!? There are certain things best left to the makers of the phone. I would look to install a custom ROM to enhance performance/features of a device. But in this case, if you are going to install a custom ROM, you are certainly going to rob the device of its audio capabilities. This phone is best left untouched if music/sound is your thing. I wouldn't even root this device, for the fear of breaking something that might deteriorate the sound quality. I own a ZTE Axon 7 Mini. I bought it mainly for its audio capabilities. It is my secondary phone for SIM2 and a media device. After buying, I just updated it to Android 7.1.1, froze the apps that I won't use. I certainly will not even root it, even though I know how to root it.
Hope this helps.
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prmbasheer said:
achillesphazd said:
Hello all,
I'm on the fence about moving back to using a custom ROM on my A2017U.....
I guess you partly answered your question yourself. First of all, the reason to root devices and install custom ROMs have reduced drastically. Rooting and Custom ROMs were the thing when Android was in its initial stages. Now, they have grown it leaps and bounds and there isn't simply anything that a developer could add which is not present in the stock. That being said, people still root it for various reasons and I am okay with it. I used to be root all my phones but have completely stopped it in the last two years. I don't much value in rooting anymore. But that's me.
Now coming to this specific device, which is renowned for its audio capabilities. Why would you buy a phone which comes with stellar sound through both speakers and audio jack and install a custom ROM?!? There are certain things best left to the makers of the phone. I would look to install a custom ROM to enhance performance/features of a device. But in this case, if you are going to install a custom ROM, you are certainly going to rob the device of its audio capabilities. This phone is best left untouched if music/sound is your thing. I wouldn't even root this device, for the fear of breaking something that might deteriorate the sound quality. I own a ZTE Axon 7 Mini. I bought it mainly for its audio capabilities. It is my secondary phone for SIM2 and a media device. After buying, I just updated it to Android 7.1.1, froze the apps that I won't use. I certainly will not even root it, even though I know how to root it.
Hope this helps.
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Why would you "certainly" kill the audio? Why are you so damn sure that it's worse than stock?
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achillesphazd said:
Hello all,
I'm on the fence about moving back to using a custom ROM on my A2017U. The issue I have is that I had trouble on my last ROM using the Hi-Fi DAC, which really bothered me because part of the reason why I bought this phone was to take advantage of the better audio quality as compared to other phones at the time of its release. Presently, what's the easiest way to take advantage of the DAC on an 8.x AOSP ROM?
Thanks!
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On Nougat AOSP you can get 192k no problem with Neutron. Literally ANY ROM from here uses the AK4490, because they are all patched now. Stock ROMs will use the AK4490 most of the time but not with the speakers (doesn't really matter) or with Dolby (Does matter) and sometimes it will even turn it off on Youtube for some reason.
I think you can't ger hi-fi in custom Oreo. But now you guys also have B01 and B12 which are stock Oreo and work just fine
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prmbasheer said:
Why would you "certainly" kill the audio? Why are you so damn sure that it's worse than stock?
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On Nougat AOSP you can get 192k no problem with Neutron. Literally ANY ROM from here uses the AK4490, because they are all patched now. Stock ROMs will use the AK4490 most of the time but not with the speakers (doesn't really matter) or with Dolby (Does matter) and sometimes it will even turn it off on Youtube for some reason.
I think you can't ger hi-fi in custom Oreo. But now you guys also have B01 and B12 which are stock Oreo and work just fine
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Didn't nfound say dac works on aex if you use the b10+b32 bootsect?
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Dodgexander said:
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Didn't nfound say dac works on aex if you use the b10+b32 bootsect?
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It works. I'm on AEX oreo with Hellsgate Kernel and CAD driver for better control over the dac and it works flawlessly with direct pcm players like Neutron and UAPP.
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Dodgexander said:
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Didn't nfound say dac works on aex if you use the b10+b32 bootsect?
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yes, ergo, it works on all ROMs
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wannaskoo said:
Dodgexander said:
It works. I'm on AEX oreo with Hellsgate Kernel and CAD driver for better control over the dac and it works flawlessly with direct pcm players like Neutron and UAPP.
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I'm actually pretty sure that AEX already has the CAD driver integrates
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I'm confused, first you said you can't get it working in custom oreo but now you are saying you can?
As far as I'm aware the CAD driver was to make oreo roms work that didn't have support, aex always has with the b10+b32 bootstack.
I guess it also gives you more control..the cad settings that is.

Dodgexander said:
I'm confused, first you said you can't get it working in custom oreo but now you are saying you can?
As far as I'm aware the CAD driver was to make oreo roms work that didn't have support, aex always has with the b10+b32 bootstack.
I guess it also gives you more control..the cad settings that is.
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You can't get hi-fi in Oreo, that's that. Now, the DAC, sure. Those are two different things. Apps can't get direct_pcm output for some reason. But the AK4490 processes stuff just fine, albeit @48KHz.
The CAD driver was to be able to change the DAC's filters, only that. i.e. super-slow and stuff. It may or may not have added support on ROMs.

aosp said:
Yes I have and I'll be surprised if any other audio player will sound more Hi-Fi then UAPP besides the craptastic stock player
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I don't know what do you mean "more HIFI" because the stock player is quite good and precise in the term of sound quality.
I have tested it with the best soundcards A/B.
Functionality is another story.
I hope your tip will work anyway...

Androowner said:
I don't know what do you mean "more HIFI" because the stock player is quite good and precise in the term of sound quality.
I have tested it with the best soundcards A/B.
Functionality is another story.
I hope your tip will work anyway...
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nice 6 month bump fam

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nice 6 month bump fam
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And whats the problem with it ?
if my Axon7 guarantie goes over in december, I will thinking to go with AOSP or other custom rom. Sound is the most important for me. Now I have a little time to read again forums... And checking whats happened since than.
Also subscribed fans get this 6 mount bump letter also...
(also the stock player is real pain, would be great to use all the media through DAC)
Stock ROM is unable to do this, but can't move yet to custom ROM...

Androowner said:
And whats the problem with it ?
if my Axon7 guarantie goes over in december, I will thinking to go with AOSP or other custom rom. Sound is the most important for me. Now I have a little time to read again forums... And checking whats happened since than.
Also subscribed fans get this 6 mount bump letter also...
(also the stock player is real pain, would be great to use all the media through DAC)
Stock ROM is unable to do this, but can't move yet to custom ROM...
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the problem is that you annoy everyone with a dead thread about something that seemingly was never really agreed upon. Honestly I'm about to make a thread explaining the facts if this keeps going (It'll get buried but whatever)
Point is, ALL SOUND GOES THROUGH THE DAC THAT IS SELECTED AT THE TIME (Unless you use Atmos, which will select the 4961 [crappy one])
If you want hifi off of another app, then use Poweramp or Neutron or that UAPP thing (i never tested it). They handle 192k just fine, proven.
Same story on custom ROMs since Nougat. GSIs are a bit more complex.
Poweramp's sound engine absolutely obliterates the stock app's sound.

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the problem is that you annoy everyone with a dead thread about something that seemingly was never really agreed upon. Honestly I'm about to make a thread explaining the facts if this keeps going (It'll get buried but whatever)
Point is, ALL SOUND GOES THROUGH THE DAC THAT IS SELECTED AT THE TIME (Unless you use Atmos, which will select the 4961 [crappy one])
If you want hifi off of another app, then use Poweramp or Neutron or that UAPP thing (i never tested it). They handle 192k just fine, proven.
Same story on custom ROMs since Nougat. GSIs are a bit more complex.
Poweramp's sound engine absolutely obliterates the stock app's sound.
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Can any PIE rom play 192khz?

residento said:
Can any PIE rom play 192khz?
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don't think so, but LOS 16 will probably be the only candidate as GSIs have hideous audio

Related

Lineage vs Bad Boyz?

I'm going to take the plunge and try a new ROM, but I was wondering if people here had tried these or another and could recommend their favourite? Anything to keep in mind when going to say Lineage over stock? Lineage has the speaker bug still but does the DAC still work? Any bugs in Bad Boyz?
AFAIK the DAC still functions properly. Flash Viper4Arise and limit output for better speaker quality.
My personal favorite ROM is Ressurection Remix. It has good customisation, reasonably stable, and the battery is good. Also has Magisk with Xposed built in, also has substratum built in (if you're into that stuff).
(If you need links, let me know)
RR remix with Custom kernel AX7 and Viper4arise . Works perfect for me
Lineage while great was not very stable. Since 7.1.1 came out for our phone officially I reverted to stock.
RR? I'll check that out!
The reason I asked about Lineage was because Reddit was talking about amazing it was when it launched, touting improvements everywhere and really making the phone amazing.
RR? I'll check that out!
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If you haven't tried our RR yet, I think you should. Definitely more stable with lots of amazing customization. As @Cyberwolf2 mentioned, coupling RR with AX7 kernel is seriously good business. Much more robust and stable than stock, although I miss the near-perfect audio from stock D:
Bad boyz rom is the best specially 7.1.1 it comes with wifi calling wich is awesome
RR is very nice, but I couldn't stand the sound issue. There are a few other missing features compared to stock, but they are relatively minor compared to what you get. Overall, my pick is bad boyz, especially now that we have 7.1.1. Everything will just work, and I really like Magisk.
Sound is crucial for me. I didn't buy this phone to make it sound worse (on headphones!). So RR is out for me.
Does Bad Boyz have the DAC working?
baconboy said:
Sound is crucial for me. I didn't buy this phone to make it sound worse (on headphones!). So RR is out for me.
Does Bad Boyz have the DAC working?
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Bad boys is a stock rom. Helps to read the thread and be informed.
I like the Badboy ROM but can't stand that ZTE still has some sort of app killing going on. I set the right parameters in power management and still the app closes.The same app works perfect in LineageOS ROMs but keeps getting closed in the stock ROM.
Oh yeah the stock app killer is annoying. Does it still happen on 7.1? It hasn't happened to me for several weeks so I forgot about it. I wonder if it stopped happening when I flashed the apk profile Zhana balanced. Try that and see if it resolves the problem. I get fantastic battery life with it too.
The app killer started playing up really bad for me, then I factory reset after the 7 update and it's been fine ever since. Same for 7.1.
It looks like I'll be trying Bad Boyz soon then!
I installed LineageOS the first day it was released. It's very nice and, for me, very stable. Never experienced any crashes or freezes, lags or anything. It's a also much lighter on the battery, I get awesome SOT with it. Switched to RR a few weeks ago and I found it to be even more advanced. There's just so many settings. RR seemed just as stable as LOS.
Yesterday, I tried dual booting Bad Boyz (primary) with RR (secundary) but I couldn't set the RR rom as secundary once I booted in it...
For now, I'm running Bad Boyz. I liked the Aroma installer: select apps, launcher and dpi to be installed. I installed it because I really couldn't miss the awesome audio experience on stock-based ROMs anymore. Viper4Arise and other tricks help a little bit, but really don't come even close to the stock sound.
Yeah stock sound/DAC is a deal breaker for me. I can't fathom why you'd even have the Axon 7 and then get rid of the DAC!
Are you using Viper on Bad Boyz? I've always used Viper, I imagine it coupled with the DAC sounds pretty incredible right?

Custom roms based on B25

Hi there folks,
Are there any custom roms based on Stock Nougat B25?
Digged a lil in rom section but found only B19 like badboyz one...
Gachmuret said:
Hi there folks,
Are there any custom roms based on Stock Nougat B25?
Digged a lil in rom section but found only B19 like badboyz one...
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As far as I know, there isn't. The Badboyz ROM is the only ROM based on stock from my research and is outdated and doesn't seem to be getting any updates anymore. All the other ROM's are AOSP/Lineage based. So you're better off sticking with a rooted system stock B25. Not sure why the Axon 7 hasn't had any dev for stock ROMs. Not that I'm complaining since having any development for the Axon 7 is awesome. Just wish a little more would come out for stock based ROMs.
brian117 said:
As far as I know, there isn't. The Badboyz ROM is the only ROM based on stock from my research and is outdated and doesn't seem to be getting any updates anymore. All the other ROM's are AOSP/Lineage based. So you're better off sticking with a rooted system stock B25. Not sure why the Axon 7 hasn't had any dev for stock ROMs. Not that I'm complaining since having any development for the Axon 7 is awesome. Just wish a little more would come out for stock based ROMs.
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My wish either, specially as the sound quality until now isn't as high as stock on LOS... Specially for recording, as no one cares about it but I really need the high quality recording of this device
Gachmuret said:
My wish either, specially as the sound quality until now isn't as high as stock on LOS... Specially for recording, as no one cares about it but I really need the high quality recording of this device
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Yeah that's a plus to using stock over any custom ROM. I, myself, need stock for WiFi Calling, and considering there's no custom ROM's available with WiFi Calling, I'm stuck using rooted stock B25. It's good enough for me but customizable aspects are limited.
I also would love me a modded stock rom, which includes all the native features like Daydream, sound-relevant integrations et cetera, while changing some parts on the interface (especcialy those Quicktiles, which are horrendous. I can't even hide some of tiles i never use or make them smaller), maybe improve some of the camera-features (CameraAPI, HDR), removing some of those ZTE-Stuff and improve that background task handler/manager. I think there are a lot of optimization possibilities in the stock roms, but the main development work understandably goes into LOS-based roms who are well maintained and documented.
I would swap to a LOS-based one in an instant, if only those daydream-issues would be solved. :-/
Agent_no1 said:
I also would love me a modded stock rom, which includes all the native features like Daydream, sound-relevant integrations et cetera, while changing some parts on the interface (especcialy those Quicktiles, which are horrendous. I can't even hide some of tiles i never use or make them smaller), maybe improve some of the camera-features (CameraAPI, HDR), removing some of those ZTE-Stuff and improve that background task handler/manager. I think there are a lot of optimization possibilities in the stock roms, but the main development work understandably goes into LOS-based roms who are well maintained and documented.
I would swap to a LOS-based one in an instant, if only those daydream-issues would be solved. :-/
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Good points, I would add dark theme mod also ...
Hello devs out there... no one ready for this?

[Q] Stock or Not to Stock

I have unlocked my bootloader, rooted with Magisk and flashed AsopExtended Rom. Very happy with the performance of my A2017U as it is right now. My question to ya'll is, What would be the pros and cons of returning to complete stock (for OTA updates) or sticking with rooted and custom rom and not being able to receive OTA updates?
whats the question here? Its on you... what you prefer
Lol that depends of your needs - I stick to stock because of audio (mostly) and somehow bcz of camera (as far as I know you can install stock camera app).
That's question is a little bit irrevelant when you was stock and now you are testing custom rom.
So the answer is simply - replay to your question by yourself and with margin to your needs.
Had to test the waters with custom roms on this phone, but was just wanting to hear other peoples thoughts on the subject. I've always tinkered with customizing my phones and enjoy doing so. Would like to hear different points of view and then see if it would make me change my mind. Sometimes custom roms have little bugs that people can or can't live with, and in some cases stock is best for total functionality. Just curious of others opinions.....
amaury48 said:
Had to test the waters with custom roms on this phone, but was just wanting to hear other peoples thoughts on the subject. I've always tinkered with customizing my phones and enjoy doing so. Would like to hear different points of view and then see if it would make me change my mind. Sometimes custom roms have little bugs that people can or can't live with, and in some cases stock is best for total functionality. Just curious of others opinions.....
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IMHO custom ROMs are littered with bugs, but mostly overlookable. Take the phone bug or storage with SD card bug for example.
Stock works better in every regard (except substratum, damn you mifavor) and with MiFavor 5 this is even truer. But if you like your current ROM there's no reason to go back...
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IMHO custom ROMs are littered with bugs, but mostly overlookable. Take the phone bug or storage with SD card bug for example.
Stock works better in every regard (except substratum, damn you mifavor) and with MiFavor 5 this is even truer. But if you like your current ROM there's no reason to go back...
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Yeah, I finally went back to stock B25 via the DrakenFx method to retain root and custom recovery. I came across the phone bug on my custom rom and that helped me make my decision to go back to a stock rom.....
Yep, used custom ROMs from the first week of owning the phone until about a month ago when I went back to B25 with Magisk. Couldn't be happier.
I was about to make a similar thread myself but saw this one. I have been running custom roms since day one but have been considering returning to stock.
A brief summary of the benefits:
Reasons to go with stock:
Fully functional ZTE camera app with no bugs - This is perhaps more important than you might think, ZTE haven't enabled the Camera 2 API which means its very possible we are going to get the best quality and feature-set by sticking with the stock app. If ZTE haven't released their blobs there could very well be reasons to stick with the default camera app...not only that but I like it. You can install the mod, but there are aspects that will never work and some roms and kernels play more nicely with the mod than others.
Dolby Atmos app. Similar to the camera on stock this would just mean less messing about, you can of course get atmos mods in magisk but whether they work as well as the stock ZTE app I am not sure. The strange thing is I have never had the stock ZTE Axon atmos magisk mod to work on a custom rom, even though I have an Axon!
Reliability, no need to worry about force closes or apps not working, everything pretty much just works. So much less stress if you use your phone as a daily driver.
Ease of use, less features makes the phone easier to use. In some cases even when you are a tinkerer like me its sometimes good to be able to forget about continuously tweaking stuff and digging yourself in to a never ending upgrade cycle.
Oreo, it looks like if you stay stock we will see Oreo sooner than custom roms.
Reasons to go custom:
Substratum, oh boy would I miss this going back to stock. The ZTE theme engine is pants compared and I love the work that goes in to my current premium theme.
Battery life, perhaps with the aid of also a custom kernel there are some very nice roms and kernels being worked on which allow you to fully customise and save battery life.
Features, you can set the phone up exactly as you want too, every small detail can be customised. You can choose exactly which rom you like based on the features you use.
Performance, you can get more performance out of a custom rom with custom kernel and find a nicer balance between battery and performance, whichever suits you.
Fun, its fun to flash different roms and get the flashing bug. You learn a lot and get to join in with a fantastic community where people help each other.
Third option, run a debloated custom rom.
Seems to be more and more popular, as an ex Nexus 5 user I loved Cataclysm rom for this very reason. You keep all the features associated with stock with added performance benefits, fixes and less bloat. There is a downside if you plan on keeping atmos as some stock roms seem to strip it away, but it is a nice compromise between the options above. Usually these roms are more reliable as they are based on stock too. If you want a lean rom that just works, this may suit you!
Its such a hard choice and one I still havent decided on, if I have missed anything please let me know!
Background info and summary:
My first smartphone was a ZTE blade 2 and it was a beast for the money, this phone is tremendous too. My GF owns a pixel and apart from the camera this phone trumps it for value no question...for less than half the price.
I have to say though, I do miss the days of my Nexus 5 and the larger mod community, I realise these days have gone now with google devices but perhaps next time I will opt to go to Oneplus just so I can trust a bit more that there will be less caveats going custom as if there is one complaint I have with ZTE it is their unwillingness to release their source code for the little tiny things like the camera api and atmos.
Dodgexander said:
I was about to make a similar thread myself but saw this one. I have been running custom roms since day one but have been considering returning to stock.
A brief summary of the benefits:
Reasons to go with stock:
Fully functional ZTE camera app with no bugs - This is perhaps more important than you might think, ZTE haven't enabled the Camera 2 API which means its very possible we are going to get the best quality and feature-set by sticking with the stock app. If ZTE haven't released their blobs there could very well be reasons to stick with the default camera app...not only that but I like it. You can install the mod, but there are aspects that will never work and some roms and kernels play more nicely with the mod than others.
Dolby Atmos app. Similar to the camera on stock this would just mean less messing about, you can of course get atmos mods in magisk but whether they work as well as the stock ZTE app I am not sure. The strange thing is I have never had the stock ZTE Axon atmos magisk mod to work on a custom rom, even though I have an Axon!
Reliability, no need to worry about force closes or apps not working, everything pretty much just works. So much less stress if you use your phone as a daily driver.
Ease of use, less features makes the phone easier to use. In some cases even when you are a tinkerer like me its sometimes good to be able to forget about continuously tweaking stuff and digging yourself in to a never ending upgrade cycle.
Oreo, it looks like if you stay stock we will see Oreo sooner than custom roms.
Reasons to go custom:
Substratum, oh boy would I miss this going back to stock. The ZTE theme engine is pants compared and I love the work that goes in to my current premium theme.
Battery life, perhaps with the aid of also a custom kernel there are some very nice roms and kernels being worked on which allow you to fully customise and save battery life.
Features, you can set the phone up exactly as you want too, every small detail can be customised. You can choose exactly which rom you like based on the features you use.
Performance, you can get more performance out of a custom rom with custom kernel and find a nicer balance between battery and performance, whichever suits you.
Fun, its fun to flash different roms and get the flashing bug. You learn a lot and get to join in with a fantastic community where people help each other.
Third option, run a debloated custom rom.
Seems to be more and more popular, as an ex Nexus 5 user I loved Cataclysm rom for this very reason. You keep all the features associated with stock with added performance benefits, fixes and less bloat. There is a downside if you plan on keeping atmos as some stock roms seem to strip it away, but it is a nice compromise between the options above. Usually these roms are more reliable as they are based on stock too. If you want a lean rom that just works, this may suit you!
Its such a hard choice and one I still havent decided on, if I have missed anything please let me know!
Background info and summary:
My first smartphone was a ZTE blade 2 and it was a beast for the money, this phone is tremendous too. My GF owns a pixel and apart from the camera this phone trumps it for value no question...for less than half the price.
I have to say though, I do miss the days of my Nexus 5 and the larger mod community, I realise these days have gone now with google devices but perhaps next time I will opt to go to Oneplus just so I can trust a bit more that there will be less caveats going custom as if there is one complaint I have with ZTE it is their unwillingness to release their source code for the little tiny things like the camera api and atmos.
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-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?
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Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?
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Thanks I will give ADM a try first since RDX seems to exclusively for the A2017 and I own the A2017U.
Frankly when I saw substratum without OMS support before I wasn't impressed but it sounds like it's worth a look.
Performance wise I loved running AOKP. It runs so much faster than resurrection remix and faster than my brief time on stock also.
It's a pain sacrifices have to made somewhere, but I guess you can't argue for the money!
Dodgexander said:
Thanks I will give ADM a try first since RDX seems to exclusively for the A2017 and I own the A2017U.
Frankly when I saw substratum without OMS support before I wasn't impressed but it sounds like it's worth a look.
Performance wise I loved running AOKP. It runs so much faster than resurrection remix and faster than my brief time on stock also.
It's a pain sacrifices have to made somewhere, but I guess you can't argue for the money!
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I think you simply have to flash the univ bootstack and your modem file to install RDX, it just wasn't tested on other phones but the A2017. but yeah, just use ADM Team
If we don't get Oreo, I will root mine, debloat etc and unroot just to keep it stock but lean. Stock camera in Nougat is quite good IMO. Atmos is pants but I will leave it alone.
RobboW said:
If we don't get Oreo, I will root mine, debloat etc and unroot just to keep it stock but lean. Stock camera in Nougat is quite good IMO. Atmos is pants but I will leave it alone.
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what's the downside of having it rooted?
Some apps don't work and it has to be secure for work use.
RobboW said:
Some apps don't work and it has to be secure for work use.
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Magisk then...
Choose an username... said:
Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?
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Just installed adm rom and substratum but can't get any themes to work at all. Substratum appears to work and let's me install them but after a reboot they don't work.
I tested with the Google app, gmail and chrome amongst others. I am using swift black.
I guess it's just a bug with the adm Rom? Magisk is working fine I think.
Dodgexander said:
Just installed adm rom and substratum but can't get any themes to work at all. Substratum appears to work and let's me install them but after a reboot they don't work.
I tested with the Google app, gmail and chrome amongst others. I am using swift black.
I guess it's just a bug with the adm Rom? Magisk is working fine I think.
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It can't be because I had everything themed on ADM ROM too. Except system ui and that stuff since it can't be themed. no idea why that happens.
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It can't be because I had everything themed on ADM ROM too. Except system ui and that stuff since it can't be themed. no idea why that happens.
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Were you using the new release with version 5 of mifavor?
What about systemless host list in magisk enabled to get adaway to work?
Only two things I have changed. I am using A2017U with the b13 bootstack.
Haven't changed anything else so no idea why it isn't working.
Dodgexander said:
Were you using the new release with version 5 of mifavor?
What about systemless host list in magisk enabled to get adaway to work?
Only two things I have changed. I am using A2017U with the b13 bootstack.
Haven't changed anything else so no idea why it isn't working.
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i was using the old release with version 5 (ADM Team V3)
I would stick with stock unless you are an extreme power user. ZTE fixed 99% of the issues with MiFavor with 7.1.1 and custom ROMs are littered with SO MANY little bugs. MiFavor is extremely stable now. Audio and camera is also much worse on custom.
But hey whatever you prefer.

Lowering minimum volume levels

Hi all....i'm on Candy rom and got flashed Dolby Atmos but now i have problems. Lowest sound levels are 3% but that is too loud even with Atmos off...it's more like 30% of max. Added volume steps but that didn't let me go under 3%,only more steps above. Is there anything i can edit to make lowest level even lower. Thanx
salle25 said:
Hi all....i'm on Candy rom and got flashed Dolby Atmos but now i have problems. Lowest sound levels are 3% but that is too loud even with Atmos off...it's more like 30% of max. Added volume steps but that didn't let me go under 3%,only more steps above. Is there anything i can edit to make lowest level even lower. Thanx
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Flash a custom kernel with sound control, use Kernel Adiutor to lower it
Thanx...any kerenl you could recommend? I don't need extra battery drains
Just wondering, but which version of Dolby Atmos are you using? I tried flashing some of the Magisk ones but wasn't able to get them working on AICP. The 'Classic' version was the only variant which would launch for me, but the effects didn't do anything due to an issue with that specific ROM. I also disliked how the interface looked dated in comparison with the 2.3.1.30_r1 version that comes with the B17 China ROM on the Axon 7.
P650SE said:
Just wondering, but which version of Dolby Atmos are you using? I tried flashing some of the Magisk ones but wasn't able to get them working on AICP. The 'Classic' version was the only variant which would launch for me, but the effects didn't do anything due to an issue with that specific ROM. I also disliked how the interface looked dated in comparison with the 2.3.1.30_r1 version that comes with the B17 China ROM on the Axon 7.
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The LePro module usually works on custom. Though I think Viper4Android is vastly superior if you have time to play around. For example you can use another headphone's DDC to make yours sound as you like it, you don't necessarily need the one that flattens the IRS.
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salle25 said:
Thanx...any kerenl you could recommend? I don't need extra battery drains
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Just try. Kernels are supposed to give you better battery life not drain it xdd
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The LePro module usually works on custom. Though I think Viper4Android is vastly superior if you have time to play around. For example you can use another headphone's DDC to make yours sound as you like it, you don't necessarily need the one that flattens the IRS.
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The LePro one didn't work for me on AICP, unfortunately. I think it's just an issue on that ROM in particular as it doesn't seem to like anything other than the default AudioFX app from tweaking the audio. At the moment i'm just cycling through the different ROM's trying to find which one works best. At the moment i'm on Official Resurrection Remix. I'll perhaps give the LePro module a quick shot and if it doesn't work, then i'll just stick to using Viper instead as it's less hassle and offers a lot more customisation. But the difference in sound quality even on the stock MiFavor ROM is VERY noticeable when toggling Dolby Atmos on/off. Hopefully i'd be able to create a similar effect in Viper if it does come to that. :fingers-crossed:
I can't flash wrong kernel?
salle25 said:
I can't flash wrong kernel?
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What?
Is every kernel compatibile with any custom rom?
salle25 said:
Is every kernel compatibile with any custom rom?
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Yes, except for ROMs based on stock.
In other words, you can use any kernel
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Yes, except for ROMs based on stock.
In other words, you can use any kernel
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Any way to tweak mixer_paths.xml?
salle25 said:
Is every kernel compatibile with any custom rom?
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Did it work out for you?
The insanely loud call volume is keeping me away from LOS based roms as well. I was able to fix the speakerphone bug on my A2017G with flashing the nougat modem, but the extremely loud call volume and inconsistent call behaviour is too much. In addition, the loud call volume leads to echos of the callers voice, i.e. the caller hears himself. Is there any other workaround for that problem?
OberstGrausam said:
Did it work out for you?
The insanely loud call volume is keeping me away from LOS based roms as well. I was able to fix the speakerphone bug on my A2017G with flashing the nougat modem, but the extremely loud call volume and inconsistent call behaviour is too much. In addition, the loud call volume leads to echos of the callers voice, i.e. the caller hears himself. Is there any other workaround for that problem?
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Nope,no changes. Couldn't find any kernel with fauxsound support.

Possible Cons of Switching to LOS-based ROMs right now?

Hi, I am planning to switch from an OOS based ROM to an LOS based ROM in the next few days. I want to know, if there are still problems with the camera in those ROMs. Like is the quality (notably) worse than on OOS, do these ROMs support the 2x zoom and the Portrait Mode (the real one, not the [admittadly good] one from GCam)? If there are problems, are there ROMs with the original OOS camera and so on where they might not exist? Are there any other real problems?
And in common: are there any great and not-so-well-known LOS-based ROMs for this phone? I am planning on using some ResurrectionRemix version (was very happy with it on my KLTE).
Thanks in advance
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Hi, I am planning to switch from an OOS based ROM to an LOS based ROM in the next few days. I want to know, if there are still problems with the camera in those ROMs. Like is the quality (notably) worse than on OOS, do these ROMs support the 2x zoom and the Portrait Mode (the real one, not the [admittadly good] one from GCam)? If there are problems, are there ROMs with the original OOS camera and so on where they might not exist? Are there any other real problems?
And in common: are there any great and not-so-well-known LOS-based ROMs for this phone? I am planning on using some ResurrectionRemix version (was very happy with it on my KLTE).
Thanks in advance
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How about this similar thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/help/stable-oos-rom-t3798167
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/help/custom-rom-oos-camera-app-portrait-mode-t3789692
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/oneplus-5-custom-rom-videos-t3740716
strongst said:
How about this similar thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/help/stable-oos-rom-t3798167
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/help/custom-rom-oos-camera-app-portrait-mode-t3789692
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/oneplus-5-custom-rom-videos-t3740716
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First: thanks for the quick answer, but that's not quite what I'm looking for. I had hoped someone with some experience with tue different ROMs could answer this directly. I looked at those threads of course, but it seems the only fitting answer was that this phoenix rom should work.
TheColin21 said:
First: thanks for the quick answer, but that's not quite what I'm looking for. I had hoped someone with some experience with tue different ROMs could answer this directly. I looked at those threads of course, but it seems the only fitting answer was that this phoenix rom should work.
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Now as you already know that the oos camera is only available on cnp, there's no alternative on every other custom rom you need to use the shipped camera or google cam or other 3rd party ones.
Quality is always a very subjective thing...
strongst said:
Now as you already know that the oos camera is only available on cnp, there's no alternative on every other custom rom you need to use the shipped camera or google cam or other 3rd party ones.
Quality is always a very subjective thing...
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cnp?
TheColin21 said:
cnp?
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Codename Phoenix
Aahh ok thx
I'm on LineageOS 15.1 now, and there's more positives than negatives when moving from OOS.
The ROM is smaller, zero bloatware, no spying, increased speed, increased battery life, & best of all a built-in privacy guard with an updated Trust module: https://www.xda-developers.com/lineageos-trust-centralized-interface-security-privacy/
I'm running without any Google junk on here so life is good.
Only downside is, to make the switch you have to back up all your apps via Titanium Backup and wipe everything off the phone completely. The restore the apps and data after you get the new OS on there.
Make sure you flash the latest version of OOS before you begin (assuming you are not already on it) to get the bootloader and modem updated.
Enjoy!
You don't have to wipe your phone after flashing lineage. Just flash bluspark kernel for custom ROMs, it supports encryption.
CaptShaft said:
I'm on LineageOS 15.1 now, and there's more positives than negatives when moving from OOS.
The ROM is smaller, zero bloatware, no spying, increased speed, increased battery life, & best of all a built-in privacy guard with an updated Trust module: https://www.xda-developers.com/lineageos-trust-centralized-interface-security-privacy/
I'm running without any Google junk on here so life is good.
Only downside is, to make the switch you have to back up all your apps via Titanium Backup and wipe everything off the phone completely. The restore the apps and data after you get the new OS on there.
Make sure you flash the latest version of OOS before you begin (assuming you are not already on it) to get the bootloader and modem updated.
Enjoy!
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And the camera quality?
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And the camera quality?
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Camera quality is largely dictated by the hardware, but the OEM LineageOS camera is okay. I don't play with it much, too few features.
If you use something like OpenCamera, Snap Camera or this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/themes/mod-oneplus-camera-jpg-quality-to-100-t3714595
...you can get better results. YMMV.

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