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Well my S4 is running MF3, rooted and bloatware frozen... however sometimes it lags, even my S2 running Shostock 3.0.2 (based on 4.1.2) is way more snappier. So all you guys with MF3 what are you doing to make this crap MF3 worth the "S4 name" ?
Thanks.
I have been on a quest to see "lag" on S4 which I cannot say I have seen (or it is in places I am not paying attention to)
However I have been checking out some apps that state they make you device run like new or something towards those lines. maybe I can help you
#1 Get XPOSED FRAMEWORK from apps store (free) - this is like a gateway to some cooler fucntionality
#2 Get GREENIFY from apps store (free) - read instructions - do not greenify clocks or messaging apps or they wont work
--use common sense basically, I greenify all games, browsers....stuff that I start interaction with.
#3 Get WANAM XPOSED from apps store (free) - here you can adjust colors and a lot of functionality.
---one thing of interest is ENABLE BOOST MODE (enables benchmark boosting for CPU to achieve MAX power)
#4 Get Android Tuner (free/paid) - I paid for mine. However this app lets you tune every aspect of the OS, if you're a power linux guy you'll pick up on what it is doing.
---however this provides a feature called TRIM which keeps the drive/storage at top performance. Google "ssd trim" for details if you dont know what it is
Now I can use these apps *blindly* and force my phone to run slow, but if I disable them (back to stock settings) I seem to run just fine
A word of caution:
Throwing every "enhancement" feature from different 3rd party application on top of each other can have a negative effect.
*Ever run 2 decent antiviruses at the same time? They play tug-of-war with infected files and you lose performance
atari800 said:
I have been on a quest to see "lag" on S4 which I cannot say I have seen (or it is in places I am not paying attention to)
However I have been checking out some apps that state they make you device run like new or something towards those lines. maybe I can help you
#1 Get XPOSED FRAMEWORK from apps store (free) - this is like a gateway to some cooler fucntionality
#2 Get GREENIFY from apps store (free) - read instructions - do not greenify clocks or messaging apps or they wont work
--use common sense basically, I greenify all games, browsers....stuff that I start interaction with.
#3 Get WANAM XPOSED from apps store (free) - here you can adjust colors and a lot of functionality.
---one thing of interest is ENABLE BOOST MODE (enables benchmark boosting for CPU to achieve MAX power)
#4 Get Android Tuner (free/paid) - I paid for mine. However this app lets you tune every aspect of the OS, if you're a power linux guy you'll pick up on what it is doing.
---however this provides a feature called TRIM which keeps the drive/storage at top performance. Google "ssd trim" for details if you dont know what it is
Now I can use these apps *blindly* and force my phone to run slow, but if I disable them (back to stock settings) I seem to run just fine
A word of caution:
Throwing every "enhancement" feature from different 3rd party application on top of each other can have a negative effect.
*Ever run 2 decent antiviruses at the same time? They play tug-of-war with infected files and you lose performance
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Thanks for those recommendations.. they look awesome will try one at a time except the XPOSED FRAMEWORK.. until a flashable image of MF3 is rolling, I'm trying to avoid messing with framework...
But well this is lag is kinda weird.. for example after using the browser or any other app for a bit of time then when press home button it lags to show the default screen and when it does the whole "desktop" is been redrawed of course this not always happen, sometimes it's very fast.
Also sometimes scrolling between the windows is very fast but sometimes very slow. And this lag is present when using several launchers, apex pro, nova or touchwiz, and i don't have much widgets running.. exactly the same as my galaxy s2 which can handle all this light usage without a problem..
CyberManiaK said:
Thanks for those recommendations.. they look awesome will try one at a time except the XPOSED FRAMEWORK.. until a flashable image of MF3 is rolling, I'm trying to avoid messing with framework...
But well this is lag is kinda weird.. for example after using the browser or any other app for a bit of time then when press home button it lags to show the default screen and when it does the whole "desktop" is been redrawed of course this not always happen, sometimes it's very fast.
Also sometimes scrolling between the windows is very fast but sometimes very slow. And this lag is present when using several launchers, apex pro, nova or touchwiz, and i don't have much widgets running.. exactly the same as my galaxy s2 which can handle all this light usage without a problem..
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Gee I dont experience any of those problems.
Scratch that - I do get desktop redrawn if I play a heavy game for a while. I do remember seeing it put back the weather and the icons. Nothing I would consider a showstopper nor can I make it happen on demand
I am using the default Samsung Touch Wizard and no other launcher
Good luck in your quest of the Lag Beast
ROUNDUP OF NON-ROOT MODS/APPS/SOLUTIONS
APPS
1. iFont
It uses the native Flipfont system present in the Note to change fonts. You can install any font from a very big list and if you buy the Donate version (which I highly recommend), you can make an installable apk for any font you want. I have already made and shared Roboto L fonts, Comic Sans and Comic Neue.
2. Adblock Plus
Works on WiFi and (if APN settings are edited) on mobile data, blocks apps on browsers and other apps. An excellent solution for ad-blocking on non-routed phones.
2b. An alternative solution that only works for browsing via WiFi networks is Adguard.
3. SMS Backup & Restore
A free app that can backup and restore your messages, no root required. Works flawlessly, I used to it to backup my SMS on my S4 and restore them to my Note 4.
4. Greenify
As mentioned in this thread, Greenify works without root as well. Automatic hibernation is even an option, albeit some issues with "talking calculator" have been mentioned.
5. My Backup
As mentioned here this app is a feature-rich backup solution for non-rooted phones.
6. SD Maid - System Cleaning Tool
This app attempts to make best possible use of its features without root present. It's a tool that cleans up unnecessary files from your phone that apps leave behind.
7. AutoStart - No root
As the name suggests, this app lets you select which applications you want to auto start after phone boot-up and it works on all phones/tablets without root permission. You can also choose one or multiple apps to auto-launch at boot with customisable delay values.
8. Busybox (No Root)
For advanced users who want to run busybox commands on their phones via the Android Terminal Emulator app.
9. Call Recorder
Call recording app that uses the Samsung standard API therefore does not require root access. It is a bit pricey but well worth the money for people who need that feature. There's a full-featured trial available from XDA so you can try before you buy.
9b. There is also a free alternative that has been reported to work well on the Note 4, AndroRec Free.
9c. Another great free alternative is Automatic Call Recorder, with the added bonus that it can record in better formats, like mp3 or wav, save on the SD card and the option for prompt to "Save or Delete" at the end of every call.
10. NoRoot Firewall
Firewall without root. Host name/domain name filtering, simple interface, fine-grained access control and no suspicious permissions on the app itself.
11. Better Wifi On/Off
A free, fully featured, ad-supported app that aims at giving you the control of the Wifi state, optimizing your battery life without losing on user experience. In theory, Wifi is less power hungry than 3G but some apps behave differently when Wifi is on (DropBox / Google+ uploads, Google Maps location caching) and the well known wlan_rx kernel wakelock is a symptom of wakeups caused by uncontrolled Wifi hotspots. The Wifi sleep policy is not working consistently and does not solve all the above problems, enter this app.
12. Helium - App Sync and Backup
Helium is the missing app sync and backup solution for Android and doe not require root. You can backup both your apps and their data to your SD card or cloud storage and sync them from your other Android devices. You need access to a computer for a brief USB connection and then you're good to go.
13. Desktop VisualizeR
Application that allows you to personalize your home screen by creating icons or widgets with your favorite photos or images, works on any launcher, even TW!
14. FREE screen recorder NO ROOT
Recordable is the easy way to create screen recordings without root. The free version adds a watermark on the recordings and limits frame rate to 8fps, but is otherwise fully functional. A Windows, Mac or Linux computer required to complete the installation (like with Helium Backup), but after this it's not needed to make screen recordings.
MODIFICATIONS
1. Full Screen Immersive Mode
Full screen immersive mode in any application or game, root is not required.
2.Enable AirView and AirGesture
2b. Instead of Nova Launcher, you can use the QuickShortcutMaker app to create any shortcut directly on the Touchwiz launcher.
3. MW-Pen App Enabler
This app that enables apps for multiwindow and/or pen window without rooted access. The only limitations are that it does not work for system apps and that enabled apps can not be updated. To update them, you need to uninstall the enabled app first, install the updated app and run it through the enabler app again.
4. Mont Blanc digital content
A guide on how to get the extra Mont blanc pens for the S Note and the two exclusive Mont Blanc wallpapers and unlock effect..
5. QuickClick
Start any action (flashlight, system toggles, media controls, etc) with a sequence of volume buttons clicks.
6. Spen Toolbox
A wonderful little app that extends the functionality of the S-Pen, by offering options for: turning the screen off when you attach the pen, changing the detach and attach sounds, creating a custom shortcut popup to appear on detach, and many more!
7. No root and want to modify your DPI? You can!
Thanks to PizzaSauce, we have a way to modify DPI without root. All you need is access to a Windows PC. Changes persist after reboot too.
If you don't want to install the whole Android SDK, you could use this tool to install ADB, which is all that is needed for this mod.
Hello all!
I recently got my Note 4 and it's by far the best device I've ever owned.
I started this thread because I decided not to root the phone -at least for now. Even though, I've been rooting and heavily modding all my phones in the past.
My reasons are:
1. Warranty.
I know that you can flash a stock firmware before handing it to service and that KNOX counter doesn't matter (I've had my Note 10.1 with a tripped counter repaired twice under warranty). However, I'd like for once to be able to just send my phone to service if need be, without the extra hassle of concealing the tweaking I've done.
2. S-Pen.
I know that rooting doesn't affect the S-Pen functionality, however, the use of the Pen makes custom ROMS such as AOSP and CM useless to me. I actually use the S-Pen heavily and it was one of the reasons I bought the phone. There are of course custom TW ROMS but to be honest, and with no intention to offend anyone, they are not my cup of tea.
3. Stability.
This one will seem weird to many, but it's my personal experience. This is the 4th Samsung device I own (SGS3, SGS4, Note 10.1, Note 4) and with the previous three I noticed that when I rooted and enthusiastically started "debloating", things started to turn unstable. And I have never, ever noticed any improvement in battery life. I know it sounds odd, but it is true to me. The Note 4 gives you the option to disable a lot of preinstalled apps anyway.
4. Lollipop.
I want to get the update that was meant for my region via OTA, no cables necessary. Plus I believe that all the annoyances I rectified with root (mainly theming, such as Tinted Statusbar) will be solved in Lollipop. Again, that's my opinion and personal taste.
Now do I miss root? Hell, yeah! Why?
1. ADS ADS ADS...
Ads everywhere! I have been paying for my apps and I am not using pirated software at all. And I gladly donate/pay for ads to be removed and premium features for apps I really love. However, there are apps that either don't offer an a ad-free option or they charge an insane amount for ad removal. I know developers need to make revenue, but there's nothing uglier than an ad banner. Seriously.
2. Tinted statusbar.
And generally Xposed.
3. Call recording.
I liked the native call recording function of the TW dialer, no app comes close from what I've seen.
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I hope this thread will be used to discuss unrooted phones and ways to mod your device without root.
Kindly keep in mind that this is not a thread to persuade anyone to root or not -please respect other people's decisions.
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I decided not to root as well. I'm using the note 4 as my backup phone with the oneplus one as my DD. I don't want to root until an option to root without tripping knox is available. I'm very curious to know what options are avaailable to non rooted phones. Thanks for starting this thread. Great idea.
3. Call recording.
I liked the native call recording function of the TW dialer, no app comes close from what I've seen.
Try this app, by an actual XDA dev, it works great. Its very polished, very native looking/behaving app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skvalex.callrecorder
Tested and working great without root.
My reason not to root note4 is lollipop upgrade from ota too
I think this note4 is good enough for me except ads like you said
For me I need root to
- Change the very bad Arabic font
- Use proxy applications
- Be able to stop WifiKill which they use heavily over here
- Use Wanam Xposed mostly for Long press back button to kill App
- Freeze all the useless pre-installed apps I never use eating memory and battery, I need maximum memory for multitasking
- Stop auto startup of other un needed apps
well I guess these may not be important to you
deathshead said:
3. Call recording.
I liked the native call recording function of the TW dialer, no app comes close from what I've seen.
Try this app, by an actual XDA dev, it works great. Its very polished, very native looking/behaving app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.skvalex.callrecorder
Tested and working great without root.
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Thank you, I'll have to try this!
khaeid said:
For me I need root to
- Change the very bad Arabic font
- Use proxy applications
- Be able to stop WifiKill which they use heavily over here
- Use Wanam Xposed mostly for Long press back button to kill App
- Freeze all the useless pre-installed apps I never use eating memory and battery, I need maximum memory for multitasking
- Stop auto startup of other un needed apps
well I guess these may not be important to you
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The font is something I also miss, Roboto has been vastly improved for Lollipop. So I'm waiting for the big update.
EDIT: I figured out a way to change font that doesn't require root, it uses the native Flipfont system present in the Note!
Using the iFont app you can install any font from a very big list and if you buy the Donate version, you can make an installable apk for any font you want! Marvellous!
Nice Thread... main thing i miss in the Adaway..other den that the phone is perfect for me...no lag ..good battery life ..
Teardrop45 said:
Nice Thread... main thing i miss in the Adaway..other den that the phone is perfect for me...no lag ..good battery life ..
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There is a way for non-rooted phones to block ads only on WiFi though on both WiFi and mobile data connections, using an app called Adblock Plus.
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Hi guys,
It is my first post although I had been lurking for a while now. Interesting thread, I didn't root my Note 4 as well for all the reasons mentioned above. What I miss most is App Opps or XPrivacy. I find it hard to install all the applications I want to try because of the ridiculous amount of permissions required. Other than that I don't miss much. The phone is pretty awesome.
I was forced to root because I had app data on another device that couldn't be moved, even through ADB.
But, Xposed,Titanium Backup, Adaway , greenify and a few others make rooting well worth the risk (once you know your devices hardware is good ).
Sent from my SM-N910U
Not rooting mine too, my first ever android device to remain stock.
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I would like to stay without root but i really miss viper... Is there any non root way stay get that type of sound improvement?
monkley said:
I would like to stay without root but i really miss viper... Is there any non root way stay get that type of sound improvement?
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Have you tried installing Viper and see if it works? Because a quick Google search gave me these:
If you're using a Samsung device, you're lucky because you actually don't need root to install the Viper4Android! Only thing you need to do is to install the app as usual and change the sound effect in*settings > sound > music effect*to Viper4Android. Be sure you don't use the TouchWiz stock player because it may not work.
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...And from the official XDA thread:
Setup your Device
For Samsung devices,
1. Try install V4A as user app instead of system app if the latter failed doesn't work.
2. Use Normal Mode and select V4A FX in Settings>Sound>Music Effects.
3. If don't work, use another player rather than Samsung stock Music.
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iR¡[email protected]!* from i9505 via Tapatalk 4
Jumping on the band wagon here too... I've had many android devices, all rooted; most recently an S4 running CM. The reason I bought the Note was for the stylus and note taking abilities. Very happy with the speed and stability so far in stock form although the battery life sucks. Dropbox was a major drainer so killed that. I need to selective disable some of the other stock apps but so far not really missing much requiring root other than titanium backup...
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sawy3r said:
Jumping on the band wagon here too... I've had many android devices, all rooted; most recently an S4 running CM. The reason I bought the Note was for the stylus and note taking abilities. Very happy with the speed and stability so far in stock form although the battery life sucks. Dropbox was a major drainer so killed that. I need to selective disable some of the other stock apps but so far not really missing much requiring root other than titanium backup...
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I had an S4 running a GPE edition ROM too. I only miss aesthetic modifications, like Tinted Statusbar and other theming elements.
Titanium Backup is also high on my list, however, I found SMS Backup & Restore works perfectly for messages (see OP). That's something!
Thanks for this lovely thread. Getting Adblock without root feels like an early Christmas. Would like to add that "My Backup" backs up SMS and much more without root. It also now backs up to Dropbox which is lovely (at least the Pro version does).
ozaghloul said:
Thanks for this lovely thread. Getting Adblock without root feels like an early Christmas. Would like to add that "My Backup" backs up SMS and much more without root. It also now backs up to Dropbox which is lovely (at least the Pro version does).
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I added your suggestion to the OP, thank you very much! :good:
Keep them coming!
Also, if anyone needs any specific installable font, post the .ttf file here and I'll make an apk.
Coming from rooted and heavy used Nexus. Really not missing anything in Notes Not planning to root.
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bat0nas said:
Coming from rooted and heavy used Nexus. Really not missing anything in Notes Not planning to root.
Sent from my SM-N910C using Tapatalk
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Sometimes heavily modding your phone can become too much and it's nice to let things be once in a while!
I added SD Maid and AutoStart - No root in the OP.
iridaki said:
Titanium Backup is also high on my list, however, I found SMS Backup & Restore works perfectly for messages (see OP). That's something!
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Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out! [emoji2]
Having spent the last 7 days with a rooted H815, I've gotten it mostly working, at this point. I came from a Note 3 running custom ROMs, so mostly I've been trying to get the G$ as close to what I previously has as possible.
Still Lacking, as far as I'm concerned:
Omniwsitch works, but can not close apps - This is a common issues on stock ROMs, will need to wait for CM to fix this
Drives can not find the SDcard, seems like a bug in how LG reports it -- FIXED, manually had to add /storage/external_SD
DPI even at 540 is insanely large (should be closer to 500 or perhaps even 480).
Unable to automatically change wallpaper on lock screen - While at it the lock screen is awful compared to a simple stock L version in my opinion.
Apps Required to get to a point where it was usable:
3C Toolbox - remove annoying startup apps and monitor battery use
AFWall+ - Required for security
AdAway - Obvious
Wallpaper Manager - Cycle through Wallapapers
Tasker - Obvious reasons
JuiceSSH Tasker Plugin - To auto link external_SD to a more reasonable sdcard1
CF.Lumen - to deal with night time colors
KinScreen - To manage Screen timeouts
Light Flow - Manage Notification display
LTE Discovery - Being an H815 on T-Mobile helps to know what is being used
Swipe Navigation - Still deciding if it is required
Titanium Backup - Obvious Reasons
Nandroid Manager - Manage backups
TWRP Manager - Manage TWP, easy reboot recovery
Omniswitch - Work in progress, does not remove tasks currently
Persist - Volume of Notifications
OpenVPN - VPN Software
Fontster - Change the default font, with using that LG store thing.
I liked the Note 3 the size and shape of the G4 is better, performance seems about the same, maybe a little better for day to day use, we really need some decedent 3rd party ROMs say Blisspop, Liquid Smooth or even CM12 for this as the stock LG is bloated and while customizable has many limitations , I'm simply unable to fully work around.
ERIC
misleading title. should be H815 [rooted] features that are working
Thank you for sharing your findings and tips for apps.
Could you please describe, how to auto link external_SD to sdcard1.
Thank you in advance for help.
Please change the title... please
OK, so it seems to be a common thing here where people are wanting to HIDE the navigation buttons as much as possible, but I'm the other way around - I want them on my screen at all times unless there's an actually good reason to hide them.
Some apps, like MX Player Pro, have an option to hide or show the navigation bar - status bar gets hidden by default, as the phone would be in landscape mode for watching videos.
Others do not. Thinking about apps like Netflix, Vudu and such... and the fact that the S8's screen is wider than 16:9, I really don't see a good reason to disable the navigation buttons, except for them possibly being distracting (which they aren't, not to me)
My understanding is that even using the adb commands found in other threads on XDA, you can set it to hide the navigation bar and/or status bar for any apps you want, but NOT the reverse. I tried opening Super Mario Run (that's another one that uses immersive mode, and I'm not quite sure WHY), opening adb shell while it was going, and no matter what command I ran the bar would not show back up. It's like apps can overwrite the system-wide immersive mode preset.
Is there ANY way to do this short of editing the .apk files to remove immersive mode from their manifests so they can't attempt to enter it? The obvious problem with doing that is that any time there's a Play Store update I'd have to redo the modification, and reinstall it from scratch because of .apk signatures.
Based on how MX Player works, and how some apps start immersive and then go back to normal (Pokémon GO seems to use immersive mode for the Niantic logo, but then returns to normal right after that), I'm assuming it's an option inside the app that can be toggled on and off, much like full-screen videos on a PC. But like how web browsers ask if you want to allow a site to use fullscreen, I wish I could do the same to my apps.
+1
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OK, so it seems to be a common thing here where people are wanting to HIDE the navigation buttons as much as possible, but I'm the other way around - I want them on my screen at all times unless there's an actually good reason to hide them.
Some apps, like MX Player Pro, have an option to hide or show the navigation bar - status bar gets hidden by default, as the phone would be in landscape mode for watching videos.
Others do not. Thinking about apps like Netflix, Vudu and such... and the fact that the S8's screen is wider than 16:9, I really don't see a good reason to disable the navigation buttons, except for them possibly being distracting (which they aren't, not to me)
My understanding is that even using the adb commands found in other threads on XDA, you can set it to hide the navigation bar and/or status bar for any apps you want, but NOT the reverse. I tried opening Super Mario Run (that's another one that uses immersive mode, and I'm not quite sure WHY), opening adb shell while it was going, and no matter what command I ran the bar would not show back up. It's like apps can overwrite the system-wide immersive mode preset.
Is there ANY way to do this short of editing the .apk files to remove immersive mode from their manifests so they can't attempt to enter it? The obvious problem with doing that is that any time there's a Play Store update I'd have to redo the modification, and reinstall it from scratch because of .apk signatures.
Based on how MX Player works, and how some apps start immersive and then go back to normal (Pokémon GO seems to use immersive mode for the Niantic logo, but then returns to normal right after that), I'm assuming it's an option inside the app that can be toggled on and off, much like full-screen videos on a PC. But like how web browsers ask if you want to allow a site to use fullscreen, I wish I could do the same to my apps.
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Did you find the way?
I'm looking for this too but preferably a shell command to use in tasker on a per app basis
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Did you find the way?
I'm looking for this too but preferably a shell command to use in tasker on a per app basis
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No
But given what I've read, and from experimentation, it looks like it's impossible to do this without having root.
I'm not sure *why* but unless someone can prove otherwise, it seems that the System UI can't override apps - even user-installed apps! Sorta weird if you ask me...
What I was trying to do instead was decompile the .apk and remove the function that puts the app in immersive mode. Problem is, I don't understand the smali language at all... my trials just resulted in failures to compile the app again. Bah. If anyone knows about Android app development and actually somewhat understands smali, let me know...
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No
But given what I've read, and from experimentation, it looks like it's impossible to do this without having root.
I'm not sure *why* but unless someone can prove otherwise, it seems that the System UI can't override apps - even user-installed apps! Sorta weird if you ask me...
What I was trying to do instead was decompile the .apk and remove the function that puts the app in immersive mode. Problem is, I don't understand the smali language at all... my trials just resulted in failures to compile the app again. Bah. If anyone knows about Android app development and actually somewhat understands smali, let me know...
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Ok I'll let you know. As for the knowledge I'm a beginner too... I'm trying to learn a bit about what can be done using Tasker but I haven't found anything. As you said it seems impossible to force the bars to stay visible if the app hides it. When I was on KitKat there was an Xposed module called app settings that allowed just that, among other things, but I'm on Nougat now and Xposed is not available so... We'll keep looking
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That's what I mean - you need root to do it (Xposed obviously requires root), and I don't really understand why since in theory a user app from the Play Store shouldn't be able to overwrite system settings. If it was a matter of getting the built-in camera to not be immersive or something, that's another story.
The most you can do with Tasker, really, is mess with secure_settings. I've tried this extensively, and all you can do is set the SYSTEM DEFAULT to immersive on or off - changing it to on makes it so apps not normally in immersive become immersive, but changing it to off does nothing because, well, the default is off anyway...
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That's what I mean - you need root to do it (Xposed obviously requires root), and I don't really understand why since in theory a user app from the Play Store shouldn't be able to overwrite system settings. If it was a matter of getting the built-in camera to not be immersive or something, that's another story.
The most you can do with Tasker, really, is mess with secure_settings. I've tried this extensively, and all you can do is set the SYSTEM DEFAULT to immersive on or off - changing it to on makes it so apps not normally in immersive become immersive, but changing it to off does nothing because, well, the default is off anyway...
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Hello,
I have root and I also cannot disable immersive mode. I haven't found any xposed module that allow this and App Settings prevent fulscreen also doesn't change anything. Do you know any other solution with root access?
Thanks in advance!
Borchuck said:
Hello,
I have root and I also cannot disable immersive mode. I haven't found any xposed module that allow this and App Settings prevent fulscreen also doesn't change anything. Do you know any other solution with root access?
Thanks in advance!
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Sadly, no I don't. I've still never found a solution for this, with or without root. And more and more app developers are updating their apps to support the screen ratio... Super Mario Run is now locked to "fullscreen" mode, you can't put it back into windowed compatibility mode anymore, and it takes up 100% of the screen with no room for the navbar anyway.
drfsupercenter said:
Sadly, no I don't. I've still never found a solution for this, with or without root. And more and more app developers are updating their apps to support the screen ratio... Super Mario Run is now locked to "fullscreen" mode, you can't put it back into windowed compatibility mode anymore, and it takes up 100% of the screen with no room for the navbar anyway.
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That really sucks... I don't know what is all about, why it is so hard to achieve. Anyway, thanks for answer!
Hey guys,
up till today I'm still using a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with Android 4.3.
It is modded to the max to exactly meet my needs and "paranoia":
- Custom Rom TouchWiz based rom
- Custom Kernel with some special script based tweaks (for example: MAC randomization everytime I turn Wifi on - handy for time limited free access points and to prevent beeing tracked etc.)
- Full Disk Encryption with a password different than my unlock pin (so when the device is off it requires a long password, but when on only a shorter pin)
- Xposed with the "old" Xprivacy Pro, Greenify and lots of other useful modules (like device shutdown after x failed amounts of unlock password etc)
- Lightning Launcher (allows "pinned" widgets that do not scroll - like the clock always beeing shown on top of all my homescreens) and custom widgets made with UCCW
- Button mods (double tap menu button turns on/off auto rotation, long menu switches last two apps, long back kills foreground app etc.) and homebutton mod to turn on flashlight when held while device is locked (to turn it on blindly / without looking)
- Sidebar Launcher Appsi for all my apps (and using xprivacy to prevent certain apps from showing up in the list at all)
... etc etc.
It took me a long time to set up everything and whenever I bought a new phone I sold it soon after because they never could be modded that hard like my old note 3 could be. (not to mention the built in batteries - I HATE that so much about all new devices).
Long story short: The Mi A1 could maaaaybe finally be the device to replace my Note 3 - but for that I need to be able to really mod it hard again hehe.
What really is important to me is beeing able to use xposed and xprivacy (unfortunately the xprivacy lua is not that good as the old one as far as it reads in the description), controlling the device encryption with my own 20+ Character Passphrase while still having a shorter pin when the device is booted up (and it beeing "full device encryption" not just file based if that still exists?). Removing all google apps except the playstore (and the account manager - dont even want the google play services crap) and preferably beeing able to install modded playstore which does not autoupdate itself etc.
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Do you guys think this is possible at all? And if so - should I stay with a 7.1.2 based rom or go for oreo? I mainly care about modability as I explained..
Hope someone is in the same boat or at least knows enough about this phone and the roms/kernels/availabe and working xposed mods to help me out.
There's pretty much no development for Nougat so it would be better if you were to get on oreo
Modabillity is pretty great with this phone so far
Look around on xda and see if you like it
berezker said:
There's pretty much no development for Nougat so it would be better if you were to get on oreo
Modabillity is pretty great with this phone so far
Look around on xda and see if you like it
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but does xposed and stuff like modded playstore etc exist/work for oreo? and do you maybe know if its possible to have a different boot password than just the unlock pin when device is powered on?
and how about rootcloak and stuff like that? On my old note i can pretty much fake everything to apps and prevent root to be detected or feed them with fake data through xprivacy - but does this all still work to the same extend on the newer android versions? This safetynet bull**** has been around since when again? Can that still be fooled?
zroice said:
but does xposed and stuff like modded playstore etc exist/work for oreo? and do you maybe know if its possible to have a different boot password than just the unlock pin when device is powered on?
and how about rootcloak and stuff like that? On my old note i can pretty much fake everything to apps and prevent root to be detected or feed them with fake data through xprivacy - but does this all still work to the same extend on the newer android versions? This safetynet bull**** has been around since when again? Can that still be fooled?
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I'm not really sure about modded play store and boot password stuff but what I do know is that you can use Magisk (Similar to SuperSu + Extra useful mods) to hide root from certain apps that you choose
Xposed does work perfectly fine but it depends on the modules and whether they work on oreo. If not, magisk modules are also pretty good
If you happen to own a phone that you can flash Oreo on, (see, Lineage 15), then you can pretty much know and discover everything about Oreo and how modding works on it