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Charger that comes with Wing VS other chargers.. Did I make a mistake?

I got a Wing, and it came with that big ass charger that says use only for wing, mda, and dash. Well I JUST now read that on the charger. Its not that I've been using this charger on other devices, its that I've been using my OTHER usb chargers to charge my Wing.
Is this bad?
Im currently using the charger from my BlackBerry Pearl (well, until I found the Wing charger again), am I in any way damaging my battery life? Or perhaps not charing as fast as I should?
Im just curious why you can only use that charger on those phones, and if its so picky, if I'm doing harm using other chargers.
If anyone knows please do tell.

No worries. The tag you see is more of a marketing decision than a limitation of the adapter itself. You can use that safely and normally on any device that requires a standard USB charger. And vice-versa, you can use any standard USB charger to charge your phone with zero adverse effects.
... well, as long as it's not a REALLY cheap charger.

right on.
I didnt know if the "wing charger" had some type of extra output to help charge faster or something.

I use a Motorola Razr car charger and it works just find.
I have noticed once or twice, for some odd reason, sometimes the Wing wouldn't "recognize" when I plugged it in with a razr home charger... like it wouldn't show that it was charging ... but maybe it was just a crappy charger.... I don't know. But I have charged it with a Blackberry 8000 charger with no problems.
I always wondered myself whether or not it would be a problem... bc the Wing's usb plug isn't a "standard" usb, but it's got a weird shape.... but I still think its just a marketing BS technique to get you to buy THEIR like $40 chargers.

Actually it may not damage your device, but may damage others using it the other way around.
Moto RZ charger is 850MA Output
T-Mobile Charger is 1A
Output
After charging my raz on accident with the t-mobile charger it seems like it can no longer hold a regular constant charge...
This also is in effect with any itips/igo adapters there are two tips for the charger, one raz USB, and one for t-mobile higher powered devices

I'm using a Motorola Q charger in the car just fine. Which is nice, because it can also charge the GPS receiver that also has a mini USB jack.

Charging your wing with any min-usb charger (such as the standard motorola ones) is fine...
The only problem you might face is... if your phone is *completely* discharged, you will need the stronger charger to recover it... the Razr chargers and the like don't seem to have the strength to revive a completely 100% dead Herald

BBM-Lee said:
Charging your wing with any min-usb charger (such as the standard motorola ones) is fine...
The only problem you might face is... if your phone is *completely* discharged, you will need the stronger charger to recover it... the Razr chargers and the like don't seem to have the strength to revive a completely 100% dead Herald
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I actually experienced this with an MDA (wizard) ... it had been uncharged for months, and I tried to charge it with a razr charger, and after sitting on the charger for like a day ... it had zero charge.

duprade said:
I actually experienced this with an MDA (wizard) ... it had been uncharged for months, and I tried to charge it with a razr charger, and after sitting on the charger for like a day ... it had zero charge.
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DAMNIT!!
I did this too!
I had a wizard I was going to use before I got my wing. It wouldnt charge, I thought the battery was trashed, so I bought a new one.
Though I only spent 10 bucks on the battery, I wish I would of known. Though I bet a real charger for it would of been more then the battery.

Problems with new wall charger. Discharging?

I'm having a problem charging my phone. Long story short, I left my phone charger at work and can't easily go back to get it until next week. I went to Best Buy today and bought another wall charger. It said it was compatible with the HTC EVO, and since the Shift also has microUSB and the same battery, I assumed it would be compatible.
I plugged the phone in and it seemed to be working fine, but a few minutes later I checked on it again and it wasn't charging, although it was still plugged in. I unplugged it and looked at the Battery Status when I plugged it back in. First it says Charging (AC) for about 12 seconds, then changes to Charging (USB) for about 14 seconds. After that the battery icon stops doing the charge animation and the Battery Status says Discharging (instead of the usual Not Charging when it's not plugged in at all). I have tried rebooting but it does this every time.
Anyone have any ideas what's wrong? And if I have to just take it back, how can I be sure this won't happen again? Has someone else bought a charger at Best Buy that actually works for the Shift?
Not sure if it makes a difference but I'm running Evervolv.
Any ideas would be appreciated, thanks guys!

Well I've learned my lesson and only use chargers of the same brand as my phone. With a HTC phone ill only use a HTC charger. I've had a phone just completely die from using a off brand charger and had to get a new phone.
Sent from my CM7 powered Shift

Take it back to best buy and try again, might have just been a faulty unit.

About the only problem I have with chargers are the cheap gas station car chargers, I use boost chargers MOTO cliq,Droid,g2(HTC) them all work fine but the gas station chargers just keep my battery where it was when I plugged it in no matter what I do it won't charge but it won't run dead either I dunno its weird
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Thanks for the responses. I think I'll try to exchange it for a different brand and see how that works.

yah i would only use htc chargers... i used to have a longer amazon usb cable i connected and charged with my htc adapter. now i can only use it to transfer data, no charging.

I came to the Shift from the Palm Pre. When I was looking to get extra wall and car chargers for the Pre I was told to be sure and get 1000mA output chargers, that anything less than that was not powerful enough to charge the Pre. I have used those chargers with no problems on the Shift.
On a trip in my girlfriends car I plugged her Shift into her car charger. She also had a Pre and now a Shift, so the same chargers. I noticed on the phone it said "Discharging" I then realized I had replaced her car charger a couple of days earlier because it was falling apart with a new one I found in a drawer. When I looked at the charger it was rated at 750mA. I replaced it with the 1000mA charger and have not had the issue since.

[Q] Adaptive Fast Charger

Hey guys,
I was charging my note 4 with the adaptive fast charging today, and when I reached about 73% it stopped charging. The brick (plug) was bricked. Did not show any charging, thought it was my cable so i changed the cable around, but no success so I used a different charger (non adaptive fast charger) to charge it, which did work.
Upon discovering this I contacted Samsung and was told that non of my retail stores had any replacements in stock. Now i must wait for them to get a shipment of the order.
My questions are:
1. What could have caused this? My charger is only less than 2 months old.
2. Would using alternative chargers harm the battery or the phone?
Thanks in advance

junstar said:
Hey guys,
I was charging my note 4 with the adaptive fast charging today, and when I reached about 73% it stopped charging. The brick (plug) was bricked. Did not show any charging, thought it was my cable so i changed the cable around, but no success so I used a different charger (non adaptive fast charger) to charge it, which did work.
Upon discovering this I contacted Samsung and was told that non of my retail stores had any replacements in stock. Now i must wait for them to get a shipment of the order.
My questions are:
1. What could have caused this? My charger is only less than 2 months old.
2. Would using alternative chargers harm the battery or the phone?
Thanks in advance
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Firstly, this should have been posted in the Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting forum.
Answers to your question:
1. Could be anything, from faulty charger out of the box but was working for a bit, to bad power socket, to lightning strike.
2. Using alternative charger won't harm your phone or battery. Maybe just untick Fast Charging when using other chargers.

Same issue
junstar said:
Hey guys,
I was charging my note 4 with the adaptive fast charging today, and when I reached about 73% it stopped charging. The brick (plug) was bricked. Did not show any charging, thought it was my cable so i changed the cable around, but no success so I used a different charger (non adaptive fast charger) to charge it, which did work.
Upon discovering this I contacted Samsung and was told that non of my retail stores had any replacements in stock. Now i must wait for them to get a shipment of the order.
My questions are:
1. What could have caused this? My charger is only less than 2 months old.
2. Would using alternative chargers harm the battery or the phone?
Thanks in advance
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I had the same issue..the fast charger just wont charge my Note 4. Got the adapter and cable replaced. They didnt hve it in stock, had to wait a week. ..used the normal charger till them. Normal charger did its job, but took bit longer compared to the fast charger.

burning car charger, Note 4
I just purchased my Note 4, swapped out my sim and then connected it to my Belkin cigarette lighter/USB car charger.
5 minutes later travelling down a freeway ,when smoke started to pour out. I yanked out the chord and
still managed to burn myself with it. 2 weeks later I really needed to charge my phone while camping
thinking/hoping it was my old chargers fault. I also turned off fast charge and it blew my car's fuses and it got
super hot again within seconds. Is this normal. Do I need to know which USB's I can use and where?
Or is my phone busted?

just use a wireless qi charger. it avoids all these issues and no wires to worry about.
fast charging is bad for your phone and battery anyway.

So I cant charge my phone while I drive?

just get a wireless qi car charger cradle.

Has anybody used one of these?
Before I buy one I was wandering if anyone has used one and if its any good?
pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=231814382878&alt=web

Anyone tried wireless charging ?

Anyone tried wireless charging on DT2 or MXF ? And how was the experience ?

Works, nothing special - overnight charge from 1% to 100%

It works, but many of us have problems with the Qi charger disconnecting charge at 100% and then reconnecting after about 5% has drained. Motorola is looking into it. I may be picky on which Qi charger you use.

Maybe I did not notice this problem - as I put the phone on charge in the evening, until the next morning I take it to work.
I use cheap qi charger from ebay - ~$2.5

Use a ravpower qi charger every night, no issues, phone comes off 100% full, cool to the touch. I know some units I've tried with my Maxx back in the day kept it warm through charging.

007shark said:
It works, but many of us have problems with the Qi charger disconnecting charge at 100% and then reconnecting after about 5% has drained. Motorola is looking into it. I may be picky on which Qi charger you use.
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Hm, I haven't had this issue yet. I use a cheap generic three coil Qi charger. Is the issue just Qi or PMA chargers too? Because I was looking at buying another but this issue would be a little annoying to me.

007shark said:
It works, but many of us have problems with the Qi charger disconnecting charge at 100% and then reconnecting after about 5% has drained. Motorola is looking into it. I may be picky on which Qi charger you use.
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Exactly how it should work to prolong battery life. Keeping any battery (especially lithium) full charger for long period of time will significantly decrease its capacity.

My phone gets very warm wireless charging. I prefer fast charge
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Zeljko1234 said:
Exactly how it should work to prolong battery life. Keeping any battery (especially lithium) full charger for long period of time will significantly decrease its capacity.
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Never had a problem with that in the past even with wired chargers. I don't think in recent phones that there is actual current on the battery at all times past 100% whether charging wirelessly or wired. I'm pretty sure it goes into a maintenance mode, but it will still show charging on the display which is the important part. That is important if you use it on your nightstand as an alarm clock with wireless charging. My Sony Z3v had no problems staying in a charge state even after 100% but my Turbo 2 does not which causes it to disconnect. It will reconnect after it loses about 5%. If I don't have it silenced, it will wake me up when it reconnects. It also affects any tasks you have programmed to happen when it is charging.
From my understanding, the first Turbo did not have this problem. I think it cropped up from the inclusion of the powermat charging or maybe something related to the 810 processor. Anyway, just waiting for a definitive answer from Moto.
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Xelios029 said:
Hm, I haven't had this issue yet. I use a cheap generic three coil Qi charger. Is the issue just Qi or PMA chargers too? Because I was looking at buying another but this issue would be a little annoying to me.
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Read the thread at the Moto Support Forums. https://forums.motorola.com/posts/215aa2bb51
It doesn't seem to affect everyone which may mean it is more dependent on your charger.

damkol said:
Maybe I did not notice this problem - as I put the phone on charge in the evening, until the next morning I take it to work.
I use cheap qi charger from ebay - ~$2.5
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ahahahahhaha.....it's really cheap !!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

RGDROID said:
Use a ravpower qi charger every night, no issues, phone comes off 100% full, cool to the touch. I know some units I've tried with my Maxx back in the day kept it warm through charging.
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Have any Qi charger brand to propose ?

I'm using a Samsung Qi puck - not the newer round plastic one, but the older more squared soft-touch one. Works great, I don't have the 100% disconnect issue.

I use the tylt qi charger the desk top one so my phone is sitting at a 60 degree angle. It works great no issues and every morning my phone is at 100% and cool to the touch

This all sounds encouraging. I think it would be helpful if people could also add a few common notes:
charger / model
any case they have on the phone (or not) when using a Qi charger
whether the phone must be in a certain orientation (e.g., horizontal vs vertical) to charge
whether the phone is at 100% - and stays there after a charge
whether the phone is cool / warm / hot once charged
A cleaned up list developed from this would be a good resource for the user community

Tylt works great phone gets warm. Itian charger is cheap from Amazon but is very finicky.
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Really, Zeljko?
Zeljko1234 said:
Exactly how it should work to prolong battery life. Keeping any battery (especially lithium) full charger for long period of time will significantly decrease its capacity.
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Uhm, that's one of the sillier things I've read today.
If it drains to 5% it's not terribly useful as a charge system regardless.
A charge controller chip is supposed to be designed to PREVENT the problem you just described.
Each charge cycle, regardless of it's form shortens the life of the battery, period. If you charge it up and then let it deplete it like that, you're damaging it as much as if you left it charging.
You kind of need to leave the stupid thing plugged in or in some wireless charge hysteresis loop so that the device isn't drained. In light of the charge system being supposed to keep the battery out of the loop until it needs to charge it again (some threshold below 100%) it shouldn't MATTER if it's "plugged in" and the device won't be pulling from the battery.

madscientist_42 said:
Uhm, that's one of the sillier things I've read today.
If it drains to 5% it's not terribly useful as a charge system regardless.
A charge controller chip is supposed to be designed to PREVENT the problem you just described.
Each charge cycle, regardless of it's form shortens the life of the battery, period. If you charge it up and then let it deplete it like that, you're damaging it as much as if you left it charging.
You kind of need to leave the stupid thing plugged in or in some wireless charge hysteresis loop so that the device isn't drained. In light of the charge system being supposed to keep the battery out of the loop until it needs to charge it again (some threshold below 100%) it shouldn't MATTER if it's "plugged in" and the device won't be pulling from the battery.
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You're talking like battery expert. Well, maybe you're. Then contact those guys and tell them they're wrong
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/lithium_based_batteries

I picked up 3 Samsung qi chargers at 6 quid each on offer on Amazon (UK). They work very well although they are more a convenience thing rather than a method of charging. I use one at work. One in the bedroom and one next to the Xbox great for the work desk to keep the device topped up and frees you up from plugging and unplugging constantly BUT.... It takes absolutely ages to charge so you dont go expecting to be dumping your cabled chargers. I use the work one most of the time as I'm out and about a lot and its very useful to be able to just grab the phone without unplugging and placing back on the pad when at the desk. The turbo charger gets used at home more coz in more likely to plug in to that and jump in the shower knowing that I'll have a nice reserve of power for the pub so yes they work as advertised and work well great as a trickle charge device when you ain't in a rush. If anyone is interested ping me and I'll spend some time on giving more detailed stats such as charge times from 0% and model number of the devices I use. Away for work at the mo so probably the weekend
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Raynic
I bought the Raynic Orchard I. It charges the phone just fine, but I noticed that if the phone wants to wake up because it senses movement, it detaches and reattaches to the charter, which gets very annoying. I moved the phone to an angle where it couldn't see me (but I could see it; sensors were under my monitor stand but the rest of the phone was sticking out) and everything went smoothly after that.

Verizon QI charge stand, Verizon case, have to charge upside down
To charge our new Turbo Droid 2 in a Verizon QI stand with the Verizon case on it, the phone must be upside down. It's OK if out of the case. We have a car QI 'base' which it won't charge in either; probably exact same issue, whatever that is. Any ideas appreciated!
jdmba said:
I bought the Raynic Orchard I. It charges the phone just fine, but I noticed that if the phone wants to wake up because it senses movement, it detaches and reattaches to the charter, which gets very annoying. I moved the phone to an angle where it couldn't see me (but I could see it; sensors were under my monitor stand but the rest of the phone was sticking out) and everything went smoothly after that.
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Nexus 5x usb port melted

Hi all.
This morning I woke up as usual and tried to unplug my phone from the charger with one hand. It didn't un plug.
I had to force unplug because charger plug melted inside the phone usb port.
A black smoke came out from the charger plug
The result is an unusable nine months old phone, a burned out night stand, and its original cable (with original charger) completely melted inside the phone.
It's a luck it happened in the morning.
I see someone else did already have the same issue.
LG shoud think about it. Maybe there is a defective stock of cables that should be checked and replaced.
Cheers,
David.
PS I cannot post images, its a long time i do not enter here and my account did not exist anymore
So now i'm a newbie again!!!!
Private message to me and i'll send you the images.

I just bought mine last November 2016 and I'm aware of this issue before i got my phone. Since i got mine, i didn't attempt to charge it overnight because of this issue. I just charge my phone while i'm preparing to get to work and by the time i'm ready to go out (which takes me 30 mins to prepare) as nexus 5x has quick charge capability which is really fast, from 15% to 85% in just 35-40 mins.
Although phones should be really handle the charging limit once the battery hits 100%, but i think the charger (which has a 3.0A) can't do this. Do you still have your warranty up? its better to send your phone to LG with the charger and they might issue you a new phone.

yoorie016 said:
I just bought mine last November 2016 and I'm aware of this issue before i got my phone. Since i got mine, i didn't attempt to charge it overnight because of this issue. I just charge my phone while i'm preparing to get to work and by the time i'm ready to go out (which takes me 30 mins to prepare) as nexus 5x has quick charge capability which is really fast, from 15% to 85% in just 35-40 mins.
Although phones should be really handle the charging limit once the battery hits 100%, but i think the charger (which has a 3.0A) can't do this. Do you still have your warranty up? its better to send your phone to LG with the charger and they might issue you a new phone.
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Actually, you shouldn't care about time charging. When phone is fully charged, the charger should turn off or not charge the phone.
It's more than ten years I charge devices in the night. Never ever happened a thing like this.
I'm curious what LG will answer to me......

I also charge my previous phone (Sony Xperia Z3 Compact) every night and plugged it out in the morning. But When i heard that Nexus 5x has this issue, i just charge my phone before i go in the office, since i'm fully utillizing its fast charging feature.
I already read some thread here and there are some particular model of chargers that doesn't pass some test.
My charger model is: DONGDO (MCS-N04ED)
My Phone Unit: LG-H791

It happened to my phone before, with the usb a to c cable from Google, I charged it from a notebook usb port, and soon after, I smelled some plastic burning. The device was unplugged, and the phone charge normally with another cable over usb or with a wall socket. I called Google and they are willing to exchange for a new cable

I charge mine every night for a year with stock charger and never had problems

giegi said:
Actually, you shouldn't care about time charging. When phone is fully charged, the charger should turn off or not charge the phone.
It's more than ten years I charge devices in the night. Never ever happened a thing like this.
I'm curious what LG will answer to me......
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hilla_killa said:
I charge mine every night for a year with stock charger and never had problems
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Maybe this issue is isolated only for some specific unit. what's your device model?