It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the LG G7 ThinQ before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
If it beats the 5+ hours I get on my v30 I'll be happy
Just started using mine today on the T-Mobile network. Coming frok the HTC U11, I must say that the battery burns faster than the U11, even with the more power effecient processor. Yes, I know that the screen is bigger.
As most of the YouTube reviews go, it seems like the screen on time will be rather polarizing. I'll follow up in about 2 days with an update.
I am getting about 5h45M SOT on average. Thought the battery would be horrible but quiet happy with it.
G7 plus: Bad Battery Life
misal6666 said:
I am getting about 5h45M SOT on average. Thought the battery would be horrible but quiet happy with it.
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I am using G7 plus 6GB version, I could never pass 4:15 minutes SOT so far (have been using High contrast theme to save battery + Greenify, still no help)
Other strange thing is that my phone's RAM consumption is always over 4GB. I wonder how is normal version managing memory? Can anyone please comment on RAM usage too?
LG G7 + 128 GB version, on Korean LG U+ Bloatware rom.
aerowild said:
I am using G7 plus 6GB version, I could never pass 4:15 minutes SOT so far (have been using High contrast theme to save battery + Greenify, still no help)
Other strange thing is that my phone's RAM consumption is always over 4GB. I wonder how is normal version managing memory? Can anyone please comment on RAM usage too?
LG G7 + 128 GB version, on Korean LG U+ Bloatware rom.
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That is really strange. I got mine from a service provider called Freedom Mobile and there is not a single piece of bloatware from their part. LG also stopped putting their bloatware on the phone since V30 I believe. I only have 4-5 bloatware from LG (Health app, Radio, Memo, Smart world). As per RAM usage, I have never had an issue. Right now, I am using 2.7 GB out of 4. After reboot, it goes down to 2.2.
Either your service provider has bloated the phone much beyond its capacity or there is some bug with the phone. Which app does the setting show use the most memory? For me, it is Android OS at 1.4 GB, System UI at 243 MB, Android System at 165 MB and Google play services at 157 MB. Everything else is double digit memory usage.
misal6666 said:
That is really strange. I got mine from a service provider called Freedom Mobile and there is not a single piece of bloatware from their part. LG also stopped putting their bloatware on the phone since V30 I believe. I only have 4-5 bloatware from LG (Health app, Radio, Memo, Smart world). As per RAM usage, I have never had an issue. Right now, I am using 2.7 GB out of 4. After reboot, it goes down to 2.2.
Either your service provider has bloated the phone much beyond its capacity or there is some bug with the phone. Which app does the setting show use the most memory? For me, it is Android OS at 1.4 GB, System UI at 243 MB, Android System at 165 MB and Google play services at 157 MB. Everything else is double digit memory usage.
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Well then I guess, I have to accept thats the way things are here in South Korea. I am on LG U Plus provider and its full of bloatware. By the way, does you phone happen to have something called Qvoice (and few more starting with Q)?
Here is a screenshots of my G7's average ram usage. Usage is different for my device than what you are reporting. That might be one reason that my phome battery life also sucks.
aerowild said:
Well then I guess, I have to accept thats the way things are here in South Korea. I am on LG U Plus provider and its full of bloatware. By the way, does you phone happen to have something called Qvoice (and few more starting with Q)?
Here is a screenshots of my G7's average ram usage. Usage is different for my device than what you are reporting. That might be one reason that my phome battery life also sucks.
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The only app I have on my phone which starts with q is QuickMemo+. I just charged my phone but I will share my Battery result with you by the end of the day. As for memory, mine looks like this.
misal6666 said:
The only app I have on my phone which starts with q is QuickMemo+. I just charged my phone but I will share my Battery result with you by the end of the day. As for memory, mine looks like this.
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Thanks for sharing information. Your usage seems to be normal but I don't understand why my device's system and system apps are consuming more RAM.
My phone has Qvoice and looks like its LG version of Bixby (a much worse). I think, its only activated for Korean users for now (I pray it never gets out). There are few more starting with Q (is this same Q as in ThinkQ?). I have managed to silence most by not giving any permissions to those. But still I fear apps like these are main culprits, responsible for poor battery life.
I am very happy with the battery so far. Took 6 hours SOT and two days and one night to get it to 20% (on wifi, notifications on but notification screen mostly off). Now I charge once every other day. After reading reviews I didn't expect that to be honest, very pleasant suprise.
AarSyl said:
Just started using mine today on the T-Mobile network. Coming frok the HTC U11, I must say that the battery burns faster than the U11, even with the more power effecient processor. Yes, I know that the screen is bigger.
As most of the YouTube reviews go, it seems like the screen on time will be rather polarizing. I'll follow up in about 2 days with an update.
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I also have an U11 right now and planning to change it.
One of the choices is th G7 ThinQ (and also OP6, U11+). How is the LG compared to the U11?
Alphae said:
I also have an U11 right now and planning to change it.
One of the choices is th G7 ThinQ (and also OP6, U11+). How is the LG compared to the U11?
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I don't have the G7 anymore, but here are my thoughts (G7 vs U11):
1. I found that pictures from the camera were a bit softer than the U11, and double pressing the power button took a bit longer to lauch the camera on the G7 vs the U11.
2. Battery usage seemed a bit higher than my U11, even with the fact that my battery is one year old. My U11 DEFINITELY charged faster than the G7.
3. Screen is nice & bright. Brighter and more vivid than the U11. No disappointment there.
If it were my choice, I would go with the OP6, because it's a new experience & new processor. I'm currently on the Note 8, and I'm loving it...but my wife has the S9, and I can feel the difference with the processor. The SD845 is not MUCH faster...but using the Note 8 feels the same as the U11 in terms of speed. Getting the U11+ is nothing more than a different screen size & fingerprint location. The U11+ is more or less the same phone.
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I don't have the G7 anymore, but here are my thoughts (G7 vs U11):
1. I found that pictures from the camera were a bit softer than the U11, and double pressing the power button took a bit longer to lauch the camera on the G7 vs the U11.
2. Battery usage seemed a bit higher than my U11, even with the fact that my battery is one year old. My U11 DEFINITELY charged faster than the G7.
3. Screen is nice & bright. Brighter and more vivid than the U11. No disappointment there.
If it were my choice, I would go with the OP6, because it's a new experience & new processor. I'm currently on the Note 8, and I'm loving it...but my wife has the S9, and I can feel the difference with the processor. The SD845 is not MUCH faster...but using the Note 8 feels the same as the U11 in terms of speed. Getting the U11+ is nothing more than a different screen size & fingerprint location. The U11+ is more or less the same phone.
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So with the U11 you got much SOT and better standy than the G7?
Yeah, I think i'll go with the OP6
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So with the U11 you got much SOT and better standy than the G7?
Yeah, I think i'll go with the OP6
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SOT varies, of course, but I think so. I spent a lot less time managing my battery life on the U11.
G7 camera is likely to he better than the OP6 camera, if that matters to you. Maybe not by that much, though.
Very impressed with battery life so far, still have to experiment with power saver mode and lower screen resolution
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Very impressed with battery life so far, still have to experiment with power saver mode and lower screen resolution
Here's a SoT question that someone may have an answer to. Since this is an LCD display, the always on display has to light up the full screen to display anything. Shouldn't that count in stats as screen on time? The screen IS on. Yes, at lower power, much like having it set to minimum brightness, (in fact, if I go to min brightness with just white text on black showing, the always on looks brighter!) so why doesn't that show anywhere? If you factor that in, which I believe we should ... this phone beats the pants off anything else I've ever used. My phone sits out with the AOD going all day at work ... which should give me about 8 hours right there.
I know it's different with AMOLEDs, since they don't light up anything not in use. But this is LCD ... on is on is on.
Sometimes i get even 7+ SOT:good:
I'm consider myself not a heavy user and I am getting 4:30 SOT consistently. Auto brightness, cellular data is always on if wifi is not present, Still I'm very pleased with this result. I will test lower resolution at some time.
I'm getting around 5H SOT average, mostly on wifi\cellurar data on but it rather more depends on how bright your keep your screen while in use, overall it last for the day and that's enough for me since I'll probably charge at the end of the day anyway.
Edit: Today I've manged to get over 6 hours SOT, but the phone died quickly from 25% - 3% when I was outside and brightness was 100%, so it all depends on your use and screen brightness.
New update increased battery life
Battery life has increased tremendously after the latest update in India. Opr1.170623.032. I can finally use 1440p+AOD for a whole day without carrying a power bank.
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Battery life has increased tremendously after the latest update in India. Opr1.170623.032. I can finally use 1440p+AOD for a whole day without carrying a power bank.
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Even using live wallpapers now. And VOLTE is enabled on Airtel after the update.
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Hey guys
I have a brand new GS5 and the batterylife is nowhere close to what reviews say. Yes I get 20+ hours but that is only counting in all the hours I am asleep.
When taking it off the charger and just browsing the web on autobrightness inside in just under a hour the battery is at 79 percent while on wifi...
Also Android system is what consumes the most. How can I fix this ? I don't want to root it yet but if I must do that that's fine for me.
Also while sleeping the battery loses 12 percent in just 6 hours. This can't be right ?
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I have a brand new GS5 and the batterylife is nowhere close to what reviews say. Yes I get 20+ hours but that is only counting in all the hours I am asleep.
When taking it off the charger and just browsing the web on autobrightness inside in just under a hour the battery is at 79 percent while on wifi...
Also Android system is what consumes the most. How can I fix this ? I don't want to root it yet but if I must do that that's fine for me.
Also while sleeping the battery loses 12 percent in just 6 hours. This can't be right ?
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bear in mind battery technology hasnt advanced quite as far as screens and connectivity has. we have bigger screens and constant connected wifi and apps.
you're not going to get all the battery life you want. under mdium use id say this phone is about 12 hours use
Yes I know that buy it is worse than my s4 and even moto g. It can't be right. I've owned the one M8 and it should more or less like that phone but it is not by FAR. I wish I didn't break my z2, that phone couldn't be sucked dry in one day.
All this aside : if Android kernel and system is using the most energy something must be wrong
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Yes I know that buy it is worse than my s4 and even moto g. It can't be right. I've owned the one M8 and it should more or less like that phone but it is not by FAR. I wish I didn't break my z2, that phone couldn't be sucked dry in one day.
All this aside : if Android kernel and system is using the most energy something must be wrong
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ok let me ask you this then instead
how much battery life do you want from a device that has a 1080p screen, wifi, 4g and a cpu thats higher than a P4 desktop?
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ok let me ask you this then instead
how much battery life do you want from a device that has a 1080p screen, wifi, 4g and a cpu thats higher than a P4 desktop?
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Let me say you this: that's not the point. Don't try to defend samsung because you like them.
To the point: this is one of their flagship devices and I know that normally it should last a lot longer than it does now. And to answer your question it should last almost as long as the one M8 wich has near identical hardware but a less big battery.
My xperia z2 with the same chip but an even bigger display that is brighter lasted at least 22 hours with 7 hours screen on time. Yes it had a 400mAh bigger battery but that doesn't mean that there should be such a big differencr in things like browsing the web. A 1 to 1,5 hour difference yes maybe. That being said I clearly have problems with my battery draining while I'm asleep.
I have owned two s801 devices and I know it is a really power effecient chip so it is not normal that I lose 30 percent after 1 hour on really low brightness. The fact that android system and kernel is at the top of the power consumption chart is also an inidcation that there is something wrong with the firmware. I tought someone could help me that has had the same problem by suggesting for example debloating the rom, installing a certain kernel, disabling a certain samsung app and so on.
So if you have nothing better so say please may I ask you to not respond so that this thread can be maybe somewhat usefull to other users
Root, takes of all. Touchwiz craps and change a kernel you get more battery life.
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Let me say you this: that's not the point. Don't try to defend samsung because you like them.
To the point: this is one of their flagship devices and I know that normally it should last a lot longer than it does now. And to answer your question it should last almost as long as the one M8 wich has near identical hardware but a less big battery.
My xperia z2 with the same chip but an even bigger display that is brighter lasted at least 22 hours with 7 hours screen on time. Yes it had a 400mAh bigger battery but that doesn't mean that there should be such a big differencr in things like browsing the web. A 1 to 1,5 hour difference yes maybe. That being said I clearly have problems with my battery draining while I'm asleep.
I have owned two s801 devices and I know it is a really power effecient chip so it is not normal that I lose 30 percent after 1 hour on really low brightness. The fact that android system and kernel is at the top of the power consumption chart is also an inidcation that there is something wrong with the firmware. I tought someone could help me that has had the same problem by suggesting for example debloating the rom, installing a certain kernel, disabling a certain samsung app and so on.
So if you have nothing better so say please may I ask you to not respond so that this thread can be maybe somewhat usefull to other users
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my opinions are as valid as yours. am assuming ur running full stock
i have 1d1m so far on mine, what i did was root and use the debloater
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Root, takes of all. Touchwiz craps and change a kernel you get more battery life.
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I will try the Aroma debloater. If that is not enough I will root and install adaway plus a cystom kernal
Any recomendations for a stable one for touchwizz ?
There doesn't seem to be a thread for discussing battery life, so here you go.
I've been quite happy with it, lasting 2 days on average before it needs a charge with light to medium use (Messaging, web browsing, email)
Few battery charts: http://imgur.com/a/d0V2F
the priv battery have been good with me, it can last a day full without charge, a heavy use of gaming also can last a day
I've had opposite results with my battery. I get about 6 hours with light to medium use. I've only had it a two days so I'm assuming like all my other androids it's get better after some use and a few recharges.
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kamileon said:
I've had opposite results with my battery. I get about 6 hours with light to medium use. I've only had it a two days so I'm assuming like all my other androids it's get better after some use and a few recharges.
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Theres a few things that also improve battery life significantly, going into developer options and changing transitions to .5 or off completely, and if your in an area that doesnt have GSM or CDMA, you should turn that option off in your network signals.
I think theres a really good post on crackberry for it
http://crackberry.com/ten-tips-and-...ery-life?_ga=1.242249799.473049905.1448047720
thats a general info battery life post
Cryptongolem said:
Theres a few things that also improve battery life significantly, going into developer options and changing transitions to .5 or off completely, and if your in an area that doesnt have GSM or CDMA, you should turn that option off in your network signals.
I think theres a really good post on crackberry for it
http://crackberry.com/ten-tips-and-...ery-life?_ga=1.242249799.473049905.1448047720
thats a general info battery life post
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I'll check it out, thanks
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Cryptongolem said:
Theres a few things that also improve battery life significantly, going into developer options and changing transitions to .5 or off completely, and if your in an area that doesnt have GSM or CDMA, you should turn that option off in your network signals.
I think theres a really good post on crackberry for it
http://crackberry.com/ten-tips-and-...ery-life?_ga=1.242249799.473049905.1448047720
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Why would animation scale improve battery?
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From what i've read on numerous forums, the battery level drains a lot faster when subjected to certain task. For example, gaming does not seem to put a huge amount of strain on the device or battery, however general web browsing does.
Same goes for the heating issue - I've yet to actually document what puts the device under strain causing battery life issues.
For me - as a rule, the battery isn't so great. It's better than the Z5 which I sent back, but around 2/3 as good as my Moto X Play. I'd expect the device to be lasting a LOT longer given the battery capacity (near on par with the MXP) however, as mentioned there are certain tasks which seem to drain the battery quicker than others.
I usually get around 3.5-4 hours screen on time a day out of a full charge.
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Theres a few things that also improve battery life significantly, going into developer options and changing transitions to .5 or off completely, and if your in an area that doesnt have GSM or CDMA, you should turn that option off in your network signals.
I think theres a really good post on crackberry for it
http://crackberry.com/ten-tips-and-...ery-life?_ga=1.242249799.473049905.1448047720
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Most of these will make tiny differences that wont really save the battery life enough for an end user to notice. Things such as scaling down animations will help with the performance slightly which, yes, will affect the battery but we're talking 1-2mAh per day.
Yeah I'm noticing pretty stinky battery life on this guy compared to my G4 which is weird because they both have an 808 and the battery is larger on the Priv along with a smaller screen. Really like the phone overall but I'm not at all enthused by having to charge this thing constantly. Plus it's always running hot for me even if I'm only using it to respond to a text message or two. Really not happy to have to return it. Also seems to get laggy for me on Google Chrome which is lame. Very high potential phone I just dont have the time to wait and wait for updates to fix the battery and heat issues.
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Yeah I'm noticing pretty stinky battery life on this guy compared to my G4 which is weird because they both have an 808 and the battery is larger on the Priv along with a smaller screen. Really like the phone overall but I'm not at all enthused by having to charge this thing constantly. Plus it's always running hot for me even if I'm only using it to respond to a text message or two. Really not happy to have to return it. Also seems to get laggy for me on Google Chrome which is lame. Very high potential phone I just dont have the time to wait and wait for updates to fix the battery and heat issues.
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That's a shame you're going to return it but understandable - I am confident that BB will improve the battery performance over time, but it's just a case of when. The pro's of the phone (power, speed, screen, camera etc) outweigh the need for a good battery life for me.
Keep us posted.
Agreed. I really liked the phone but mine gets hot and laggy and I've got the screen click in the bottom left corner and the back has that strange hollow feeling that seems to be complained about all over Crackberry. It could even just be a t-mobile thing but I don't want to take my chances especially when the phone is so expensive. Fingers crossed that they release an awesome update or skmething for this phone, though. But with just 25 minutes of screen on time (phone on for just one hour total) I've lost nearly 20% battery. Can't figure it out either. Brightness all the way down, Bluetooth and WiFi off, Gmail sync off, WiFi calling disabled, BBM disabled and it still is hot as could be and eating battery. What I would do to have access to wake lock detector!
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From what i've read on numerous forums, the battery level drains a lot faster when subjected to certain task. For example, gaming does not seem to put a huge amount of strain on the device or battery, however general web browsing does.
Same goes for the heating issue - I've yet to actually document what puts the device under strain causing battery life issues.
For me - as a rule, the battery isn't so great. It's better than the Z5 which I sent back, but around 2/3 as good as my Moto X Play. I'd expect the device to be lasting a LOT longer given the battery capacity (near on par with the MXP) however, as mentioned there are certain tasks which seem to drain the battery quicker than others.
I usually get around 3.5-4 hours screen on time a day out of a full charge.
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Most of these will make tiny differences that wont really save the battery life enough for an end user to notice. Things such as scaling down animations will help with the performance slightly which, yes, will affect the battery but we're talking 1-2mAh per day.
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Truly, after completing all of these battery tips, i didnt even do every one on that list, but changing the sync + radio + animations has DRAMATICALLY increased my battery life, went from half day to full day without charge. Radio definitely seemed to be a HUGE drain when trying to access GSM in my area. animations i cant say made a huge increase but the phone is SO much quicker, felt slow and laggy with it on.
Ok, so I have been running my phone a few days now with the new setup. I am now getting 11 - 12 hours of battery with moderate use. That's about twice what I was getting. So it's now comparable to battery life of other phones I had.
So I have the T-Mobile variant, the SVT100-1. My guess was it was all the bloat ware TMo put on the device that was eating g battery. Here is a list of the apps I disabled, since we will probably not getting root and won't be able to uninstall them.
Lookout (BlackBerry App)
Mobile money(TMo)
TMobile My Account
TMobile TV
Visual Voicemail (TMo)
Yahoo Finance
Blackberry Help
A few of the Google keyboard input languages (these more for space nothing performance)
Over the next few days I will enable each one to see if it effects battery life so I can determine which one is killing battery.
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kamileon said:
I've had opposite results with my battery. I get about 6 hours with light to medium use. I've only had it a two days so I'm assuming like all my other androids it's get better after some use and a few recharges.
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what you facing the problem as same as for me also.but I had 3months now only it's like that previously it's good only.
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Over the next few days I will enable each one to see if it effects battery life so I can determine which one is killing battery.
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Were you able to narrow it down at all?
I'm getting around 4-5 hrs of screen on time - around 16 hrs with moderate use. I notice it heats up quite a bit while on chrome.
Hoping the update to marshmallow will help with the advanced standby feature for apps. Wifes s7 edge has crazy battery life and it only has a couple hundred more mAH capacity. Going to try enabling only 4g/3g since it looks like I have weak LTE signal everywhere I go.
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Hello,
My Nexus 6P, albeit a great phone, is starting to get a little slow and the battery life has suffered. My memory usage isn't high, around 2GB. I close all apps after using them. I haven't even used close to half of my 64GB storage.
I am a very heavy phone user, and I am having to recharge my 6P more than once every day. I cannot sustainably use max screen brightness as it drains the battery too quickly, a shame because maximum brightness on this phone is so beautiful!
From some testing, it is taking 2 minutes and 3 seconds to drop 1% in battery life at maximum screen brightness while watching YouTube. Round to two minutes, multiply by 100, and that gives you 200 minutes. 3 hours and 20 minutes.. that is silly, plus the battery drops off faster as the percentage decreases (I tested at 94%).
Realistically, I can get 2.5-3 hours on this phone at maximum brightness - is there something wrong, or is this just the phone? While writing this post in 5 minutes, I dropped another 3%...
It should be pretty obvious that a 2k screen at maximum (!) brightness can drain the battery faster.
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It should be pretty obvious that a 2k screen at maximum (!) brightness can drain the battery faster.
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Yes, but Techradar's test of a 90 minute video with adaptive brightness OFF (like me) takes battery down to 75%. That's 25% down in 1.5 hours, meaning the battery life of their test model would be 6 hours video playback, more than double what I get.
What gives?
Lower the brightness.
phoenixsilver said:
Yes, but Techradar's test of a 90 minute video with adaptive brightness OFF (like me) takes battery down to 75%. That's 25% down in 1.5 hours, meaning the battery life of their test model would be 6 hours video playback, more than double what I get.
What gives?
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You're taking 1 instance of a test and multiplying it as it the variables within that instance will remain the same. Batteries drain faster the more they are used in an instance because of the heat. This type of test can be done with a flashlight. Turn it on for an extended period of time and then turn it off for a few seconds. Turn it on again and the brightness will be at max (for the batteries' capacity at the time), after about 5 seconds, the light will dim suddenly.
Same thing happens in phones. Manage your brightness.
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Jammol said:
You're taking 1 instance of a test and multiplying it as it the variables within that instance will remain the same. Batteries drain faster the more they are used in an instance because of the heat. This type of test can be done with a flashlight. Turn it on for an extended period of time and then turn it off for a few seconds. Turn it on again and the brightness will be at max (for the batteries' capacity at the time), after about 5 seconds, the light will dim suddenly.
Same thing happens in phones. Manage your brightness.
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So essentially, this is just the battery life of the 6P?
Seems a little weird to give a phone such a beautiful display but we are unable to use it to its full extent because it won't last.
phoenixsilver said:
So essentially, this is just the battery life of the 6P?
Seems a little weird to give a phone such a beautiful display but we are unable to use it to its full extent because it won't last.
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I can't say that, but I can say there's no device that we can expect to just use that way. All devices (even outside of smartphones) are like that. If it runs on a battery expect not to be able to use it to its full capabilities for an extended period of time.
Cars are the same way. If you run it at max speed all the time (if there were no laws), you'll run out of gas extremely quickly, compared to 65mph. Same concept applies here. It sucks but that's the way it is.
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The battery of this phone is poor, no doubt in that. However what I found is that my previous phone (which I had to RMA) lasted much longer than the current one. Around 1-1.5-2(barely)hr more SOT. Don't know how this could happen.
Yeah, 6P is not what I expected it to be.
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The battery of this phone is poor, no doubt in that. However what I found is that my previous phone (which I had to RMA) lasted much longer than the current one. Around 1-1.5-2(barely)hr more SOT. Don't know how this could happen.
Yeah, 6P is not what I expected it to be.
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Not saying you are wrong, but I feel like some say that about every phone. I will have to wait and see when mine gets here.
When the Note 5 came out there were so many people saying how terrible it was with battery life. Almost turned me away from getting it. Finally decided to take the plunge and guess what? It's pretty much the same as all the other phones I have had. The phone don't suck, our usage changes based on the device we have. I use my Note 5 more than I did my Note 4, battery still lasts me all day but needs to be charged about an hour after I get home. Note 4 made it until bedtime but I had a company phone to use all day.
I'm hoping the 6P can handle me all day. No pen to use so it should be fine.
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Jammol said:
Not saying you are wrong, but I feel like some say that about every phone. I will have to wait and see when mine gets here.
When the Note 5 came out there were so many people saying how terrible it was with battery life. Almost turned me away from getting it. Finally decided to take the plunge and guess what? It's pretty much the same as all the other phones I have had. The phone don't suck, our usage changes based on the device we have. I use my Note 5 more than I did my Note 4, battery still lasts me all day but needs to be charged about an hour after I get home. Note 4 made it until bedtime but I had a company phone to use all day.
I'm hoping the 6P can handle me all day. No pen to use so it should be fine.
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I don't get why you're getting the 6P if you already have the Note 5. Like having two or more phones uh?
I got the 6P in place of the Note 5. I had a Note 4 before (it was defective I believe), it had terrible battery life (very rarely 4.5 to 5 hours SOT) and heats up to 75C very easily. Sure the 6P is cheaper, but I could've gotten the Note 5 if I wanted because this device is going to be there for at least 2 years. The thought of I can't bear anymore of TouchWiz was the only reason I got 6P. I thought the Note 5 would heat similarly and that 6P was better overall. But now I think I'm wrong, the Note 5 is a slightly better phone.
My 6P heats way too much (though not as much as my Note 4 did). Battery not upto expectation. Inconsistent camera (exposure problems). Throttling issues.
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I don't get why you're getting the 6P if you already have the Note 5. Like having two or more phones uh?
I got the 6P in place of the Note 5. I had a Note 4 before (it was defective I believe), it had terrible battery life (very rarely 4.5 to 5 hours SOT) and heats up to 75C very easily. Sure the 6P is cheaper, but I could've gotten the Note 5 if I wanted because this device is going to be there for at least 2 years. The thought of I can't bear anymore of TouchWiz was the only reason I got 6P. I thought the Note 5 would heat similarly and that 6P was better overall. But now I think I'm wrong, the Note 5 is a slightly better phone.
My 6P heats way too much (though not as much as my Note 4 did). Battery not upto expectation. Inconsistent camera (exposure problems). Throttling issues.
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I actually don't mind touchwiz especially now that they have trimmed most of the fat and you can theme it now. Sad I'll miss out on AOSP/CM on it but I guess that's what the Nexus line is for. As far as the 6P being worse than the Note 5, I think it's based on usage patterns. The Note 5 has it's own slew of issues, radio especially for me, it does tend to heat up but not as bad as some other phones. Slippery as hell OMG!!! And that all glass thing is just absolutely nightmarish! It is still a fantastic device though and I will miss it greatly.
I'm getting it because of Project Fi. It will be cheaper for my wife and I compared to what we pay now for T-Mobile. We will be saving just over $60. That's date night once a month right there, Lol. I am actually getting rid of my Note 5, and unfortunately earlier today I dropped it on the road without a case on!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
I cried....no shame there....my own damn fault too.
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I actually don't mind touchwiz especially now that they have trimmed most of the fat and you can theme it now. Sad I'll miss out on AOSP/CM on it but I guess that's what the Nexus line is for. As far as the 6P being worse than the Note 5, I think it's based on usage patterns. The Note 5 has it's own slew of issues, radio especially for me, it does tend to heat up but not as bad as some other phones. Slippery as hell OMG!!! And that all glass thing is just absolutely nightmarish! It is still a fantastic device though and I will miss it greatly.
I'm getting it because of Project Fi. It will be cheaper for my wife and I compared to what we pay now for T-Mobile. We will be saving just over $60. That's date night once a month right there, Lol. I am actually getting rid of my Note 5, and unfortunately earlier today I dropped it on the road without a case on!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
I cried....no shame there....my own damn fault too.
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Maaan.. You could've just used a case! :
You do know that the 6P bends very easily without a case right (I got to know after I bought the device).
So you're getting the 6P as a replacement to your Note 5? I don't get why I see many people using the 6P after the Note 5. Is the 6P actually better?
Do let me know about your thoughts when you get your phone.
I've found that since a security patch update around February that my phones battery drops so much quicker. I used to be able to get 5 hours sot. I've seen a few people post on this issue and with it being a software issue I'm becoming extremely frustrated with android. I'm ashamed to say I'm considering selling the 6p and getting an Iphone
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Maaan.. You could've just used a case! :
You do know that the 6P bends very easily without a case right (I got to know after I bought the device).
So you're getting the 6P as a replacement to your Note 5? I don't get why I see many people using the 6P after the Note 5. Is the 6P actually better?
Do let me know about your thoughts when you get your phone.
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Sometimes I go bare with it because I'm always "careful" lol. I plan on having a case for the 6P for sure. I'll probably go bare off and on once I get used to the device and become comfortable.
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I've found that since a security patch update around February that my phones battery drops so much quicker. I used to be able to get 5 hours sot. I've seen a few people post on this issue and with it being a software issue I'm becoming extremely frustrated with android. I'm ashamed to say I'm considering selling the 6p and getting an Iphone
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No shame there. Seems like something is staying awake when it should be dozing. I'm assuming it's not rooted right?
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I actually posted this same post in the XL section by mistake, here is where I would get the proper feedback:
After reading all the forums on XDA I decided to go with the Pixel XL. I have been on a
waiting list for 2 weeks now so I am assuming these are backordered big time.
In the same instance I check to see what the wait is for the regular Pixel and it keeps going
down. Today you can order a 128 gb black and get it in 2 weeks, The XL I still cannot even order
it. I am guessing everyone is making the same conclusion that the XL model is the prefered model.
Those of you with the Pixel, what are your thoughts? I am afraid of the battery life of the Pixel vs the XL.
That is my number one concern.
When do you think we will see any more stock on the XL?
CC
I don't have either phone. I did order the pixel and not the xl version. I ordered it from Google and I'm waiting till November 23 for it to arrive. I think it is doing as well the xl version. I called Verizon and I could get it sooner but the monthly payments on Verizon don't allow though to pay a little more to pay phone off early.
I was worried about the battery life as well. It looks like people are at least getting 4-5 hours of screen on time. That's enough for me. I just want a smaller phone. I've had the 6p and the S7 edge and I prefer a phone the size of the iPhone 7. I just don't want an iPhone.
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Well availability doesn't tell us anything at all, it accounts for no variables. As far as preferred model the XL should definitely be it, considering the sizes of the best selling Android phones. The Pixel is rare for being a top-specced one handed device.
Got the pixel. Battery life is 2 days easy. I love it.
Is 4-5 hours of SOT out of the Box enough for you? --> take it!
I really enjoy the snappiness and the quality.
Awesome, but expensive device!
Cheers
I came here expecting actual numbers, left disappointed.
Infact Google is having hard time completing orders, they have a very good demand at the moment for both models!
http://www.greenbot.com/article/313...pre-orders-being-pushed-back-to-november.html
Battery life is really good. I am at the end of my first day with full charge, currently 42% left with 4h11m SOT. I would put it on par with iPhone 7 plus (which is the phone I came from).
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Battery life is really good. I am at the end of my first day with full charge, currently 42% left with 4h11m SOT. I would put it on par with iPhone 7 plus (which is the phone I came from).
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That's pretty much my experience as well.
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Those of you with the Pixel, what are your thoughts? I am afraid of the battery life of the Pixel vs the XL.
That is my number one concern.
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You do realize that the bigger screen will consume more power, don't you?
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Battery life is really good. I am at the end of my first day with full charge, currently 42% left with 4h11m SOT. I would put it on par with iPhone 7 plus (which is the phone I came from).
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On the regular one or the XL?
That is really impressive if its for the smaller one.
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On the regular one or the XL?
That is really impressive if its for the smaller one.
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Smaller one.
I've got the phone for a few more days now and I am averaging 5-6 hours SoT. Certainly not as good as my initial post, but still very, very good I would say.
I don't do a lot of crazy stuff on my phone, just a lot of Hangouts, Redditing, some browsing on Chrome, and checking ESPN (+fantasy) for scores. Some music and reading every once in a while. 'OK Google' is always on and I have 2 Google accounts + 1 Exchange account syncing. High accuracy location on.
I have used a lot of Android phones in the past (as recent as 6P) and this is the first time I don't have to tinker with every single setting to get usable battery life. I am very impressed.
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Smaller one.
I've got the phone for a few more days now and I am averaging 5-6 hours SoT. Certainly not as good as my initial post, but still very, very good I would say.
I don't do a lot of crazy stuff on my phone, just a lot of Hangouts, Redditing, some browsing on Chrome, and checking ESPN (+fantasy) for scores. Some music and reading every once in a while. 'OK Google' is always on and I have 2 Google accounts + 1 Exchange account syncing. High accuracy location on.
I have used a lot of Android phones in the past (as recent as 6P) and this is the first time I don't have to tinker with every single setting to get usable battery life. I am very impressed.
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I have had a large majority of the main stream Android phones to exist and to this day I have NEVER gotten SOT life like this. I simply do not get how this is possible. Now, with my Pixel I still get a maximum 2 hours of SOT. Do you use your phone non stop all day? I think I get good battery life, my phone will survive 2 days with around 2 hours of SOT - I have just never seen such SOT even when I actually use my phone constantly all day.
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I have had a large majority of the main stream Android phones to exist and to this day I have NEVER gotten SOT life like this. I simply do not get how this is possible. Now, with my Pixel I still get a maximum 2 hours of SOT. Do you use your phone non stop all day? I think I get good battery life, my phone will survive 2 days with around 2 hours of SOT - I have just never seen such SOT even when I actually use my phone constantly all day.
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I use my phone on the bus, during lunch and casually on the couch when I'm at home. I wouldn't say I am on my phone constantly.
From my experience the biggest battery issue about Android is always idle drain. Doze helps a lot but you really need to get rid of apps that drain unnecessarily, or apps that maintain calls to Google Play service frequently. Social network apps are really bad at this, which is why I make an effort to use their web apps as much as I can.
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I use my phone on the bus, during lunch and casually on the couch when I'm at home. I wouldn't say I am on my phone constantly.
From my experience the biggest battery issue about Android is always idle drain. Doze helps a lot but you really need to get rid of apps that drain unnecessarily, or apps that maintain calls to Google Play service frequently. Social network apps are really bad at this, which is why I make an effort to use their web apps as much as I can.
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That's my thing. The only "social media" app I use is Instagram. I try really hard to have good battery life and my phone has really negligible idle drain. I think I just don't actually use it enough to see those SOT numbers.
for an average medium user, i think the phone will give 3-4 hrs SOT over 36 to 40 hours of usage easily.
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I have had a large majority of the main stream Android phones to exist and to this day I have NEVER gotten SOT life like this. I simply do not get how this is possible. Now, with my Pixel I still get a maximum 2 hours of SOT. Do you use your phone non stop all day? I think I get good battery life, my phone will survive 2 days with around 2 hours of SOT - I have just never seen such SOT even when I actually use my phone constantly all day.
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I'm seeing a minimum of 3 hours SOT over 28-36 hours of mixed use on a regular Pixel (browsing, phone calls, Google Inbox, camera, some Facebook, some texting). I'm usually connected to Wi-Fi and a good 4G signal.
Had the Pixel for a week and even the first 24hrs (with lots of extra playing around + downloading all my apps) saw around 3.5 hours of SOT. This compares favourably with my previous Z5C (smaller, lower resolution, display).
cc999 said:
I actually posted this same post in the XL section by mistake, here is where I would get the proper feedback:
After reading all the forums on XDA I decided to go with the Pixel XL. I have been on a
waiting list for 2 weeks now so I am assuming these are backordered big time.
In the same instance I check to see what the wait is for the regular Pixel and it keeps going
down. Today you can order a 128 gb black and get it in 2 weeks, The XL I still cannot even order
it. I am guessing everyone is making the same conclusion that the XL model is the prefered model.
Those of you with the Pixel, what are your thoughts? I am afraid of the battery life of the Pixel vs the XL.
That is my number one concern.
When do you think we will see any more stock on the XL?
CC
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I have the Pixel and I'm overly satisfied with it. Yes, it's pricey, but it's premium. In all honesty, all of these flagships could be cheaper (iPhone, S7, HTC10, etc), so i don't consider the price a negative. I personally love the minimal, straightforward industrial design. People say it looks like an iphone, mostly because that's what they are familiar with, but it just looks like most standard smartphones from the front. Personally, I think it far more reflects the HTC phones of today and before (they've been doing aluminum on the flagships longer than anyone), and is EXTREMELY well built. Regardless of how complex or not you fell the design to be, it's done very well. Otherwise, it's spec-ed as-well-or-better than any other device. Top notch SoC, camera, etc.
Hardware aside, the software is really the strength. I wont go into every nuance, but it just *feels* like a very complete package. Google has been very careful to tie up many of the loose ends that existed on the Nexus phones, and it has a very nice fit and finish to the UI and UX. The camera software is stellar, assistant is nice, the app drawer is much more cleverly handled than before, notifications menu and quick toggles are spot-on and well refined, and Google continues to deliver the ability to customize without burying settings or complexities into the system. my recent (albeit limited) experiences tinkering with iPhones has really left me wanting more from the UI. It used to "just work" but the menus and UI (aside from the main screen) i feel to be dated, overly-layered, and too confusing. App-level permissioning continues to be great....oh, and the camera...man, the camera. yes, a lot of it comes in post-processing the raw file (HDR+, for example), but it's undeniably awesome. I've accidentally taken pictures that turned out better than my most care constructs on past phones. Vlad has some things to say about that here. Anyway, i wont keep rambling, and could answer specific questions if you're interested.
tl;dr - get it. it's awesome, hardware is awesome and executed well, software is top-notch, phone is blazingly fast, i get 5hrs SOT easily in a single day usage (could stretch multiple days and still pull 3-4hrs), and camera is as good/better than anything out there.
disclaimer - i dont game on my phone so can't speak much to that type of performance.
cheers!
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fitchpuckman said:
I have the Pixel and I'm overly satisfied with it. Yes, it's pricey, but it's premium. In all honesty, all of these flagships could be cheaper (iPhone, S7, HTC10, etc), so i don't consider the price a negative. I personally love the minimal, straightforward industrial design. People say it looks like an iphone, mostly because that's what they are familiar with, but it just looks like most standard smartphones from the front. Personally, I think it far more reflects the HTC phones of today and before (they've been doing aluminum on the flagships longer than anyone), and is EXTREMELY well built. Regardless of how complex or not you fell the design to be, it's done very well. Otherwise, it's spec-ed as-well-or-better than any other device. Top notch SoC, camera, etc.
Hardware aside, the software is really the strength. I wont go into every nuance, but it just *feels* like a very complete package. Google has been very careful to tie up many of the loose ends that existed on the Nexus phones, and it has a very nice fit and finish to the UI and UX. The camera software is stellar, assistant is nice, the app drawer is much more cleverly handled than before, notifications menu and quick toggles are spot-on and well refined, and Google continues to deliver the ability to customize without burying settings or complexities into the system. my recent (albeit limited) experiences tinkering with iPhones has really left me wanting more from the UI. It used to "just work" but the menus and UI (aside from the main screen) i feel to be dated, overly-layered, and too confusing. App-level permissioning continues to be great....oh, and the camera...man, the camera. yes, a lot of it comes in post-processing the raw file (HDR+, for example), but it's undeniably awesome. I've accidentally taken pictures that turned out better than my most care constructs on past phones. Vlad has some things to say about that here. Anyway, i wont keep rambling, and could answer specific questions if you're interested.
tl;dr - get it. it's awesome, hardware is awesome and executed well, software is top-notch, phone is blazingly fast, i get 5hrs SOT easily in a single day usage (could stretch multiple days and still pull 3-4hrs), and camera is as good/better than anything out there.
disclaimer - i dont game on my phone so can't speak much to that type of performance.
cheers!
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Thank you for the info above, my number one question is how is battery life. As a business person
syncing email/calendars, numerous calls, youtubing, web browsing, and texting. When I unplug at 6 am will I last until 9 pm or will I have to worry, This is my number one question for ALL.
CC
I personally went with the Pixel over the Pixel XL after using the Nexus 6P and OnePlus 3 for the past 12 months. I wanted something with a smaller size for one handed use. So far, I have not been disappointed in the least bit.
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Thank you for the info above, my number one question is how is battery life. As a business person
syncing email/calendars, numerous calls, youtubing, web browsing, and texting. When I unplug at 6 am will I last until 9 pm or will I have to worry, This is my number one question for ALL.
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I have my own consulting business and use 3 different emails for contact with various clients and 1 personal email address. 2 of these are exchange and 2 are Google accounts. With roughly 20 emails coming in/out per day, 1-2 client calls per day (each one lasting between 30 and 60 minutes), moderate texting and app usage, I've had absolutely no issues with the battery. I usually take about 20 minutes to charge my phone to full as soon as I get into my home office around 7AM each morning. From there it lasts me throughout the day/night with no issues. When I go to plug the phone in each morning it usually has about 25% - 35% battery remaining.
I have the G3 and the battery life is not bad. I'm debating between the pixel and the V20. I'm curious how the G3 battery life compares directly with the V20. I know everyone is interested in sharing their battery story and if you have another phone you want to talk about I'll be happy to start another thread. It doesn't help cover my question if people are switching from the G4 or G5 or note or a vibrator or an iPhone... I have a G3 so that is the only frame of reference that will mean anything to me.
It's about the same. Traded in my G3 for the v20 and so far the only thing that's great is the audio on my headphones. Dropped calls and bad LTE connections along with some lag have made me consider taking it back.
OMG get the v20! Switched from the G3 and guessing double the battery life after a week of use. Much better LTE signal strength with fewer dead spots. Killer audio, camera, and love the always on screen.
Looked at a pixel but for the extra cost of about $250 on VZ plus getting the removable battery and SD card I was down for the v20.
This phone is killing the G3. Battery life is waaay better. And I had Greenify and Amplify on my G3. It was rooted and booted but this V20 is 2 steps up without root. Probably get a day and a half once root comes out. Jk. Lol.
THanks for the response - the reason I ask is - I've turned off a ton of apps I don't use and get very good battery life on my G3. I have BT on 24x7.
It has been 24 hours since my last charge - I have 62% battery life remaining. Talk time 1.5 hours - normally I use my phone about 4.5 hours a day - I use it as my office line for tech support.
Anyone here use their phone as a phone a lot?
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THanks for the response - the reason I ask is - I've turned off a ton of apps I don't use and get very good battery life on my G3. I have BT on 24x7.
It has been 24 hours since my last charge - I have 62% battery life remaining. Talk time 1.5 hours - normally I use my phone about 4.5 hours a day - I use it as my office line for tech support.
Anyone here use their phone as a phone a lot?
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Basically my phone on standby I have black and white on cause I used it last night and its better on the eyes I just haven't turned it off lol
I too switched from my very loyal/dependable G3 to the V20. I've had the V20 since Oct 29th and I can say without reservation that it blows my old G3 away. I was running Resurrection Remix ROM on my G3, and the V20 still smokes it....regardless of no root/locked bootloader. The only thing I miss is the CM13 theme engine/Layers...but I still think the V20's responsiveness and features make up for it.
I am on Verizon and I've noticed that the signal strength is much better on the V20 compared to what I had on the G3. So far, I am confident that I made the right choice. Also for me, battery life is much better on the V20 and that is with its little 2nd screen on the entire time.... I average a day and half to 2 with moderate to heavy usage. My old G3 would only last about a day.
I did seriously contemplate the Pixel XL, but when I finally had one in hand and compared it to the V20, it was a no brainer for me.....removable battery and expendable local storage sealed the deal.
Good luck with your decision(s)....
I only just changed to the V20 yesterday, so far so good. I will still keep my G3 , it still holds its weight when comparing to other handsets on the market. Though the 2Gb ram was starting to show it's not good enough anymore with android 6.
I just got my V20 today and i have to so far I am loving it over my G3, idk about battery life yet as I killed the battery during setup and restoring my apps.
Thanks for your replies. I look forward to your opinions on the battery.
Well I still have 2X LG G3 and 1X Samsung galaxy s4 . But because my LG V20 came defective from factory i had to return it, but for the short period i used it, i can say it is way better than the LG G3 on Every aspect without exception! (im still waiting for my new LG V20 to come (STUPID BACKORDERS!)) The LG G3 >rooted with AICP or Resurrection Remix would last about 18 hours with screen off, and 3-4:50 hours with screen on device in normal usage, not heavy such as Youtube video on 1440p. Yet with the LG V20 with screen off, i lost about 1 percent every 4 hours with screen off . and screen on i got 6+ hours of normal usage. (i have 35 user apps installed on my LG G3 and also had them on my LG V20, many of them were constantly synchronizing such as package tracker pro, zooper widget pro, among others)
My V20's battery life is just about exactly what I was getting with the G4 and the G3.
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Bummer - but good to know. I'm hoping the Motorola ? or Lenovo P2 come to Verizon soon as I'll need to make a decision soon. I know it a fancy recording device is important to others but I use my phone to make phone calls 95% of my use time is phone calls. Maybe 5% of the time I'll check email or text and once in a while when travelling use GPS. So cameras and recording don't matter - call reception and battery life are king for me. They both have similar thickness to the V20 but include a 5100mah battery!
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Bummer - but good to know. I'm hoping the Motorola ? or Lenovo P2 come to Verizon soon as I'll need to make a decision soon. I know it a fancy recording device is important to others but I use my phone to make phone calls 95% of my use time is phone calls. Maybe 5% of the time I'll check email or text and once in a while when travelling use GPS. So cameras and recording don't matter - call reception and battery life are king for me. They both have similar thickness to the V20 but include a 5100mah battery!
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If battery life is king, then the Moto Z Play is the phone you want.
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Thanks - same company but it has a 3510mah battery. I'm going to guess the new model with the 5100mah battery will last longer.
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Thanks - same company but it has a 3510mah battery. I'm going to guess the new model with the 5100mah battery will last longer.
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Maybe. Depends on other factors. Pretty much any review you read will say that the Moto Z Play can last days. I've seen reports of 7 to 10 hours of SOT. That's without the battery mod.
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Maybe. Depends on other factors. Pretty much any review you read will say that the Moto Z Play can last days. I've seen reports of 7 to 10 hours of SOT. That's without the battery mod.
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I don't know if the P2 when released will have a Verizon option so I'm still hoping to find something with good battery life worth upgrading to without wasting an upgrade. I'd also love the ZenFone 3 Max which only has a 4100mah battery.