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The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?
Mugen 3000mAh
I'll bite; I sprung for the Mugen 3000mAh battery. I think it's great (it comes with it's own battery cover, and admittedly does make the phone significantly more bulky).
I'm not a typical user even for these forums. I routinely tether my laptop to my phone via bluetooth for laptop internet access (two thumbs up for unlimited data plans) and I actually get quite usable speeds (I'm using that setup right now). Plus, I can send and receive calls at the same time. Also, I've got two accounts in the Pocket Outlook, and I've got Flexmail 4 with about 6 or 7 email accounts that sync throughout the day. In addition to that, I use spreadsheets and word documents on it as well as voice calls. So, frankly, I'll take all the power I can get!
When I take it to the gym, I use my Seideio (sp?) 2000mAh battery because it's a lot slimmer and does great with by bluetooth headphones (and I use it as an mp3 player; I'm not one of those types that talks on their phone the entire time they're supposed to be "working out"!).
So if you have to have all the power you can get, like I do, it's not that big of a sacrifice in size for the extra 600mAh. It does make a difference late in the day. Just my $0.02 though.
Good stuff BPB21.
What kind of case do you use for the 3000, if any at all?
Thanks for your help.
Cases
That's an interesting question. Typically I just keep it in my coat pocket at work, or pants pocket otherwise without a case. I've got one of those "Invisible Shield" screen protectors that has protected it even from my cat's claws (touch screen wasn't meant for cats, but no harm done). So typically I don't use a case.
However, I was just looking for some kind of waterproof case, I mean completely waterproof, for when I potentially go rafting and/or rock climbing. I can't vouch for any yet, but I've heard good things about the "Otterbox" cases. I don't plan on actually using the device while in the water of course, but it might be necessary to keep it with me. I'm kinda compulsive about that with my phones. So, as for cases, that remains to be seen. I think the Seidio 2000mAh battery would fit most anything (I don't know about the 2400mAh, but I'm sure I'll own one soon) as it really doesn't add much size at all to the phone. As for the Mugen 3000 mAh, well, I don't know what that would fit in. That battery and case make the phone a total of one inch thick the entire length of the phone. The Seidio battery and cover only add about 1/8th inch thickness in a 1&1/2" width and 1&1/4th" length on the back of the phone.
Anyway, if I find something good I'll post here; but for everyday use just the screen protector works well enough for me.
IF anyone has any suggestions for this battery and a case, i'd be grateful and interested as well. the stock cover that comes from mugen is crap with a capital C. it keeps sliding off.
I 2nd that...
This is true; it is really easy to knock the Mugen cover off. The one saving grace about that cover's design is that even if the cover comes loose you don't necessarily take the battery with it (at least in my experience). I would be interested if anyone can find a cover that fits the 3000 mAh battery. (I mean, other than the submersible Otterbox cases - those fit, but you can't really use the device...)
The phone (with a standard battery fitted) just fits into an otterbox 1000, which is the cheapest one they do. I got the transparent one but the phone screen is obscured. I keep it in the box whilst I work outside, with a waterproof bluetooth headset. It's a tough box.
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dougalls said:
The phone (with a standard battery fitted) just fits into an otterbox 1000, which is the cheapest one they do. I got the transparent one but the phone screen is obscured. I keep it in the box whilst I work outside, with a waterproof bluetooth headset. It's a tough box.
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I've actually taken the phone skiing (well, I didn't buy it a lift ticket or anything). It was in my ski jacket pocket (and I tend to do runs more advanced than I am) and despite my sometimes dramatic falls the phone held up well. So it's a pretty durable device, but I wouldn't do that every day with it.
Speaking of that Otterbox - I was looking at the same thing and trying to measure it from the given inside dimensions. Which way does it just barely fit: length, width, or thickness? I would think the phone would be just a bit too long for the case, but hopefully not? And then, if I had the Seidio 2000mAh battery (which adds maybe 1/8" thickness, if that) installed would that fit as well?
Otterbox 1900
Hi. I own an otterbox 1900. I´ve used it a lot with my Axim and after that with my Eten m700. I took it rafting, dirt biking on the mountains and snowboarding many times. You can charge the device while in the box, and use the device while keeping it protected by a clear rubber membrane.
The Fuze fits easy inside, but I have the stock cover and battery.
Ratcamp said:
The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?
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I bought one, I have it and it makes your phone look like a brick. hey, the Battery will last days but it is just Huge.
Big batteries
I've got the 3000mAh battery (by the way, I saw the 2400mAh battery on eBay; how does its size compare with the 3000mAh battery?). I use my phone heavily, all day. I'll connect it with my laptop via bluetooth to use internet sharing, sometimes I'll be talking on the phone at the same time, and I heavily use email on the phone, plus Word and Excel files and internet browsing, plus occassional testing and configuring of wifi routers using the phone's wifi, all on a given day. I'm not always near a charger so for me I need all the power I can get, even if it is only an extra 600mAh.
On the other hand, people routinely ask me "what is thbat?" (or more accurately, "what the hell is that?") when they see my brick of a phone. So yeah, it does make it quite bulky compared to even the 2000mAh battery. But if you're a power user and need all the extra you can get then it is worth it.
I complained to the guys at nakedcellphone.com and the guy sent me a new cover for the Mugen battery, have to say, amazing service. I should have given them kudos weeks ago. The new cover for the Mugen does NOT slide off and is very good.
Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?
New Mugen cover
sanjsrik said:
I complained to the guys at nakedcellphone.com and the guy sent me a new cover for the Mugen battery, have to say, amazing service. I should have given them kudos weeks ago. The new cover for the Mugen does NOT slide off and is very good.
Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?
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How is the new cover different? Shaped differently or just fits more snugly, or both? I got mine from them, and it may be too late for me to complain since I've had it for a while now, but do you think they'd send me one if I asked? I'd even pay for it (not $60 or howevermuch, but some) if the cover is that good.
The best "hard case" I've found is by Otterbox, but I don't think that's the kind you've got in mind.
Let me know the details on that different Mugen battery cover; I could use that.
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Now, I need a hard case for this thing. Anyone know of a place I can get one?
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Although it has a Sony Ericsson Emblem on it, This is the one I use and it fits perfect.
http://www.malcomwireless.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=34109&refid=froogle
Pics?
Does anyone have any pics of the Fuze with the larger capacity batteries installed?...David.
Here is a Few I just took. My Fuze has a Mugen 3000mAh Battery in it.
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How is the new cover different? Shaped differently or just fits more snugly, or both? I got mine from them, and it may be too late for me to complain since I've had it for a while now, but do you think they'd send me one if I asked? I'd even pay for it (not $60 or howevermuch, but some) if the cover is that good.
The best "hard case" I've found is by Otterbox, but I don't think that's the kind you've got in mind.
Let me know the details on that different Mugen battery cover; I could use that.
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Nothing is different, I am guessing that the new one they sent just didn't fall off as much. Maybe the original one sent was defective.
Ratcamp said:
The $2400 is $21 on eBay and the Mugen is $80.
The Rafael obviously seems like the better deal. How can anyone justify an additional 600mAh for $60??
Has anyone used the Rafael and what kind of case did you get for your thicker phone?
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I also saw that Mugen battery and drooled, but for $100... Amazon.com has a Cameron Sino 2400mAh battery for $20... 3000mAh is probably more a custom item to begin with, but a 600mAh increase for only $80?
I've used Cameron Sino batteries before -- never had a problem.
Good replacement case cover as well - it doesn't fall off...
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I also saw that Mugen battery and drooled, but for $100... Amazon.com has a Cameron Sino 2400mAh battery for $20... 3000mAh is probably more a custom item to begin with, but a 600mAh increase for only $80?
I've used Cameron Sino batteries before -- never had a problem.
Good replacement case cover as well - it doesn't fall off...
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A link to the Amazon battery would be nice, the only thing I was able to find on Amazon searching on the Cameron Sino 2400 battery is one for the Treo.
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A link to the Amazon battery would be nice, the only thing I was able to find on Amazon searching on the Cameron Sino 2400 battery is one for the Treo.
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http://www.amazon.com/Fosmon®-Capac...4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1244649963&sr=1-4
Hi
I've just purchased and received one of these http://www.superetrader.co.uk/extended-battery-for-htc-touch-diamond-2200mah-p-4207.html
Only £10.00 so couldn't go wrong really. The back in my opinion is better than some others I've seen as it doesn't bulge out then in, but is flat apart from the recess for the camera.
The back cover is glossy and doesn't have the same quality paint job as the original which is perhaps to be expected however you can't tell unless you look hard, and you could always spray over it if you wanted to and have a matt finish. It fits perfectly.
I haven't given it a run yet to check the battery life time but it should be double what it is now.
Thought it might be of interest for UK owners.
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Phil
Sounds very good... I like the fact that it doesn't add extra size or distort the shape of the device, as one would expect with a battery of such a capacity. As a result, although I already owned a 1350mAh battery, I ordered this one too.
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Sounds very good... I like the fact that it doesn't add extra size or distort the shape of the device, as one would expect with a battery of such a capacity. As a result, although I already owned a 1350mAh battery, I ordered this one too.
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Well, it is indeed interesting, but you are mistaken if you think that it does not add extra size: your d2 will be, judging from the pic, about 3 mm thicker. What the original poster meant was that those 3mm are constant over the whole backplate, it is not a bulge limitted to the battery. I think 3mm is acceptable, even if it mean it will not fit in any case :-(...
I'll wait a little bit to see if extended batteries fitting in the original backplate appear. Not 2 times the capacity obviously, this would not be physically possible, but a 1300-1400 mAh should be possible I think. Like your 1350 mAh for example Did you check the battery life compared to the original? improved, or not?
If not, this battery is an option
Well, I have a silicon case from PDAir, and my hope is that it can be stretched a bit to accommodate the extra 3mm... But even if it doesn't, I would still opt for the prolonged battery life against the case: My 1350 mAh battery is an improvement from the original, but nothing too spectacular. If for example I play games, or use the phone actively, I still have problems in making it through the day...
What I wouldn't like from a battery at all, is to seriously affect the size, or distort the shape of the device. But as far as I understand, this is not the case with this one... Who knows? It may even fit in my silicon case, as I mentioned earlier... We will know soon about that!
I think it's good to have a battery that lasts longer, but the bricks again no, it is better to have an extra battery and charger base.
This is the disadvantage of the MDA-Compact V. Overall a prettier phone than the vanilla TD2, but i'd give my back teeth for this battery...
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The thinkness is more than 3mm extra, probably around 6mm, and I'd be quite surprised if a silicone case would stretch enough. As already mentioned I didn't mean the back was the same thickness as the original, just it was flat and uniform so didn't look as odd.
It does make the phone more brick like, I quite like it as it feels better to hold on a phone call, but will not be to everyone's taste, especially if you like slipping it into pockets. But for £10 it is quite a bargain if you really need the extra battery life time and apart from having a spare battery or a charging pack it is the best option available at the moment I think.
I expect the battery to last twice as long being twice the capacity. So far it's been on 100% all day even though I've had a couple of quick phone calls and sent and received a handful of text messages.
Case wise it will not fit a case designed for the Topaz, but now fits perfectly in a Tytn II case.
Regards
Phil
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My 1350 mAh battery is an improvement from the original, but nothing too spectacular. If for example I play games, or use the phone actively, I still have problems in making it through the day...
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By the way, where did you buy your 1350 mAh battery?
Mine last exactly one day when I use the device a lot...Well, a lot for me: my typical heavy usage is not to use the TD2 constantly, nor playing much games...mostly I make a few pics, use the GPS a little and read ebooks a lot. I could theoretically empty my TD2 in less than one day... but in practice it has never happened, even if very close.
I think your 1350 mAh would suit me great, a little extra security and I will have the original battery as a backup when away from a plug for more than a day (typically, long plane trips...), this way I will not have to worry about saving my main battery to still be able to make an emergency call...
I think that given my use case, it would be better than this 2200 mAh, which is very nice, but too bulky for me :-/
I bought it from here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIAMOND2-LONG-LIFE-BA-S360-COMPATIBLE/dp/B002AANPYG
Does the 1350 battery perform noticably better than the standard 1100?
As I said, nothing too impressive...
Just bought the 2200 mAh battery. The size is indeed bigger, and although the phone's shape is unchanged, it does bevome more brick-like. As some people correctly predicted in this forum, the silicon case cannot be used with this size (although if the size was marginally smaller, I think it would work, but anyhow this is just theoretical...).
I believe that the choice of a 2200 mAh battery is just a matter of personal taste: I personally vote for the extra hours that I use my device even if I have to sacrifice the small size, but then this is just me...
By the way, does anyone know if larger silicon cases exist in the market, which can accommodate the thicker TD2?
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The double capacity battery is running great. It's odd as it seems to provide a lot more than double the run time of the original battery. I have to wonder if the original supplied battery is really providing the power it claims
Regards
Phil
Still satisfied with the 2200 mAh battery?
What about the back cover? Does it fit nicely? Getting looser since started using it?
First of all, this isn't a "why I don't like the Xoom" post. Actually, there is a lot that I do really like about the Xoom, and I'm optimistic that once Flash, 4G, and a few more Honeycomb-optimized apps come to the device, it will be a very capable device.
The reason I'm posting here is that I purchased the Xoom online from Verizon when it first came out, but there were a few things that bothered me enough about it that I returned it after about a week to make sure that I didn't land outside the return window. I have however, been considering buying another one, this time directly from the Verizon store so I can spend a little more time with it to determine if I like it enough to justify the $800 expenditure. So, I wanted to post my major nits with the product here to see if others have found them to be not as much of an issue or had found workarounds that solve some of these problems. I know there have been other posts about many of these problems, but I was hoping to get some fresh perspective now that the device has been out and in people's hands for a little longer.
Here's what is keeping me from going out and buying another Xoom right now.
1. I didn't like the display. On auto-brightness, it seemed like it was always too dark, and even the maximum manual brightness setting it still wasn't bright enough to overcome the glare that the screen attracted when I was sitting by a window or near a lamp. I felt like I was always struggling to see what was on the screen, even when indoors. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. It turned out a little longer than I had originally intended. Looking forward to your feedback.
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First of all, this isn't a "why I don't like the Xoom" post. Actually, there is a lot that I do really like about the Xoom, and I'm optimistic that once Flash, 4G, and a few more Honeycomb-optimized apps come to the device, it will be a very capable device.
The reason I'm posting here is that I purchased the Xoom online from Verizon when it first came out, but there were a few things that bothered me enough about it that I returned it after about a week to make sure that I didn't land outside the return window. I have however, been considering buying another one, this time directly from the Verizon store so I can spend a little more time with it to determine if I like it enough to justify the $800 expenditure. So, I wanted to post my major nits with the product here to see if others have found them to be not as much of an issue or had found workarounds that solve some of these problems. I know there have been other posts about many of these problems, but I was hoping to get some fresh perspective now that the device has been out and in people's hands for a little longer.
Here's what is keeping me from going out and buying another Xoom right now.
1. I didn't like the display. On auto-brightness, it seemed like it was always too dark, and even the maximum manual brightness setting it still wasn't bright enough to overcome the glare that the screen attracted when I was sitting by a window or near a lamp. I felt like I was always struggling to see what was on the screen, even when indoors. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. It turned out a little longer than I had originally intended. Looking forward to your feedback.
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1. I agree with the auto brightness. I turned this off and keep the brightness at 75%. I added Zagg invisibleshield and it has significantly reduced glare, fingerprints and smudges. I am happy.
2. I ordered this but it has not arrived yet: http://www.zoogue.com/shop/#xoom-zoogue-case-genius I am currently using the Moto gel case and it works for now.
3. I haven't had an issue with the charger. It charges very fast and the battery life is very good.
I love my xoom, though i don't see a lot of resolution for you on these issues.
1. I love the display, agreed it's hard to see in bright light (but this to me is normal).
2. I like the portfolio case and use it constantly.
3. For me the lack of usb chargning is fine, as the default charger charges so fast and my battary lasts me all day. I can charge from empty to full in less then two hours and get at least a good 12 hour day of off again on again usage.
Hope this helps.
same here.
i turned of auto brightness and the screen is great for me now.
haven't put a case on it (waiting for a good one to come out).
i left the shipping cover plastic on the screen until i decide on what screen protector i am going to use.
no usb charging was not a deal breaker for me as it has been noted before that the charge time is fast and the use time is high.
1. I use mine on a bus and outside and haven't really had a problem with brightness, the glare is a killer though. Inside, at night when using the kindle app, I'd like to turn down the brightness. I picked up the Steinheil screen protectors (matte) and it really cut down on the fingerprint smudges and glare. Yea, the screen isn't as crisp as without the protector, but the smudges ruined it anyway. I took auto brightness off but keep the display turned down.
2. I haven't seen any third party case even for the ipad that I really like. The portfolio from Motorola is the best I've seen so far and I'm really disappointed. It needs to have a typing position, maybe 20-30% incline.
3. I would have liked a mini usb charger. I'll probably get a second one but by charging it at night I have more than enough juice to get through a day.
Motorola had a $100 off coupon floating around and the wifi models are being released at the end of this month which should be less expensive.
keitht said:
1. I agree with the auto brightness. I turned this off and keep the brightness at 75%. I added Zagg invisibleshield and it has significantly reduced glare, fingerprints and smudges. I am happy.
2. I ordered this but it has not arrived yet: http://www.zoogue.com/shop/#xoom-zoogue-case-genius I am currently using the Moto gel case and it works for now.
3. I haven't had an issue with the charger. It charges very fast and the battery life is very good.
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I have a Zoogue iPad case and have used it for the past 8 months. It is amazing and has held up perfectly. It is an awesome case especially if you intend to watch a fair bit of videos with your tablet. Maybe not the prettiest case around, but it protects the hell out of the tablet and not only allows you any angle of incline, but also a very sturdy base so that it wont go tipping over if you tap the tablet too hard.
I agree with most people here.
1. Forget the auto brightness. It's useless.
2. I really want the zoogue case, let me know how it is. I'm ok with the portfolio case. It's definitely grown on me. I have two big issues with it though: lack of a 30-degree angle for tabletop use, but i've gotten used to the "low angle", and no charging while closed. someone in the accessories forum suggested punching a hole with a punch meant for making holes in a belt and it worked like a charm (hint: try asking your dry cleaner/alternation shop if you can use theirs, that way I didn't have to buy one). Looks like it almost was meant to be there.
3. I would have liked the 'option' of a mirco usb charger, but honestly, I use it every day at work unplug in the morning, use at home after dinner and plug in at night, and have never had an issue. I even went away for the weekend (sat morn to sunday night) and brought my charger, but i never charged it. I dont see it as an issue.
lazy_rider said:
First of all, this isn't a "why I don't like the Xoom" post. Actually, there is a lot that I do really like about the Xoom, and I'm optimistic that once Flash, 4G, and a few more Honeycomb-optimized apps come to the device, it will be a very capable device.
The reason I'm posting here is that I purchased the Xoom online from Verizon when it first came out, but there were a few things that bothered me enough about it that I returned it after about a week to make sure that I didn't land outside the return window. I have however, been considering buying another one, this time directly from the Verizon store so I can spend a little more time with it to determine if I like it enough to justify the $800 expenditure. So, I wanted to post my major nits with the product here to see if others have found them to be not as much of an issue or had found workarounds that solve some of these problems. I know there have been other posts about many of these problems, but I was hoping to get some fresh perspective now that the device has been out and in people's hands for a little longer.
Here's what is keeping me from going out and buying another Xoom right now.
1. I didn't like the display. On auto-brightness, it seemed like it was always too dark, and even the maximum manual brightness setting it still wasn't bright enough to overcome the glare that the screen attracted when I was sitting by a window or near a lamp. I felt like I was always struggling to see what was on the screen, even when indoors. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. It turned out a little longer than I had originally intended. Looking forward to your feedback.
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1 - I operate my device on auto brightness pretty much all the time, the only exception to this is when QuickPic fires up because it ramps it to 100%. I have found that in most normal operating environments I can see the screen perfectly. I am not outdoors with it very often but I know what you are talking about because it is difficult to see under direct or even semi direct sunlight.
2 - I'm going to buy a gel case right now, I already own the protective case. I want to try them both and figure that I'll use the Gel case around the house and the protective case out at work.
3 - There is a car charger, but I am unaware of a more compact Xoom charger.
Thanks to everyone who has commented so far. I'm leaning strongly towards giving the Xoom another shot, although I might wait until they start shipping with 4G, so I don't have to send it back to Moto for a week for the upgrade.
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1. I didn't like the display. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
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I'm still not over the display quality. This is one of the main factors why I'm weighing to sell the xoom and get another honeycomb tablet in the future.
lazy_rider said:
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
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Couldn't say as I've never used it before.
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3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
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I found the xoom's ability to charge quickly makes up for the lack of usb charging. additionally, when in a car traveling long distances, i can hook up the charger to a power generator i bought for the car that easily hooks up to the lighter port.
I'm going to wait it out, and try and get the samsung tablet 10.1 coming out in about a month.
I too use auto brightness all the time, but maybe I live in a dark existence.
I use the gel case all the time, and no screen protector. When I take it with me, its in my protective net book sleeve in my backpack so I'm not really worried about the screen. If I start to hear complaints here about screen issues (other than the gym bag guy) I may seek better protection.
I don't find the charging to be an issue as the battery lasts a long time. I think the car charger (<$30) is a good idea if you are gonna be in the car for even 15 minutes or so. If you can hook up the standard dock someplace in your car you can charge it and play audio from itnto the aux port on your stereo if you have one...
Sent from my Xoom using XDA App
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Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
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Very much so; it charges it so fast and the battery life is so good I just don't worry about it any more. I might get a car charger for the times I can't get home in time, once they get 2nd-sourced (to save money) but so far, so good.
I suffer under no delusions that a device like this will be viewable in direct lighting (including sunlight). I pretty much assumed going in that I'd still be using my classic Nook with e-ink for reading outside...
i bought one and I returned it because of the same issues. Then I bought my wife an I pad 2 and i tested it for a few day and I
notice the xoom is so fast and you not handcuffed to apple products that I went and bought the xoom again and this time I'm keeping it.
I am very very happy with Samsung Improvements.
Let me settle your problem above with my humble opinion.
1. No SD Card Support.
Answer :- Dual USB OTG Drive is being produce in this world to solve this issue. I my self is bringing a Strontium Dual USB OTG Drive every where hanging with my keys and it is much more convenient then Micro SD card is because data can be view, used and moved in out easily anywhere and anytime.
Size of a Dual USB OTG Drive is only a 50 Cents.
Weak or Slow Micro SD make the phone juggling in the process of output data and this will affect the phone performance. Thus the more data you had in a phone will decrease your phone battery easily.
2. No Removable Battery / 3. Smaller Battery.
Answer :- Fast Charge is being researched and implemented into Samsung phones where you can charge up the phone easy and fast.
Power Bank is being created in this world to ease battery issue. Slim type of power bank like Xiao Mi 5000 Mah would help user alot. Size wise Xiao Mi 5000 Mah is Same like S6 so you can bring anywhere you can easily and the weight is so so so so light.
Hardware like the Processor and RAM in the phone is being improved so that the hardware would not consume alot of battery life.
Exynos Processor is being refined with smaller die cut size so that the processor wont consume lots of battery while RAM by using LPDDR RAM the voltage is being reduce so that the bettery life would be preserved during usage and sleep mode.
It does not means that higher spec phone need superior big size battery.
4. No dust and water proof.
Answer :- Our eyes would not able to see micro dust and particle where each and every second everything in our world is being infected with dust. It is impossible that our phone would be dust proof unless we lives in quarantine zone that is being clean every 30 minutes.
Water proof is useless feature if you never use that feature at all. How many percentage in this world is utilizing the water proof feature of a smartphone.
Do you know that phone with water proof feature would decrease the phone performance limit in terms of speakers and heat control.
The water proof layer block the speaker and make the speaker sound weak and not load this happen to lots of water proof phone outside in the whole world. With the water proof layer heat in the phone is hard to escape and it makes the phone hardware inside suffer, Therefore the phone hardware will be easily spoil and need to enter SC to repair.
Thus after the phone send to SC repair do you guarantee that the phone is still water proof ?
I can say NO I CANNOT GUARANTEE because once the seal is being tempered there are chance water will leak into the phone.
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Actually this is a reminder for you. You need to do research before you compare a product with another product. Don`t always see the negative side of a product. Be mature by widening the view of a product. There are no perfect things in this world where it can satisfy the unlimited human desire.
I agree! my batchmates (at work) all uses Xperia waterproof phones from Z to Z3 but they wouldn't even let me pour water into their phone they are all afraid it may get damaged ???
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On battery life...samsung simply could've just included a larger battery instead of chasing after Iphone to beat their slimness and of course fixed software bugs which contribute to poor battery life.
I think samsung can achieve much better battery life with software fixes, it isn't that bad, also you can always use fast charging or a powerbank
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King p1n said:
On battery life...samsung simply could've just included a larger battery instead of chasing after Iphone to beat their slimness and of course fixed software bugs which contribute to poor battery life.
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But the slimness of the Samsung S6 is what attracted me to the phone (Was a diehard HTC fan before and was going to go LG). I also don't have a problem with battery life, I always get more than a full day of use (charge in the evening between 8-10pm, turn-off charger and use until following day).
Regarding the SD card, I also prefer the high speed of UFS over larger size. Even when I use phones with removable SD cards, I have always carried either OTG SD card reader or OTG doube head USB drive (so I can connect to computers). I wouldn't want to take out my SD card that has all my files on it and connect it to someone elses computer to transfer files or make print outs (90% of the time when I want to transfer files off of my phone).
you can always use fast charging or a powerbank
While I agree with everything here except the SD opinion about slowing the phone down and affecting battery which is nonsense, and the waterproofing which is easy to do and a very useful feature especially on holiday, do we really need a thread telling us what we already know? Of course we have fast charging, but how does that help anyone who's battery is running out when they are out and about? Bigger battery would of been better. Although battery life is comparable with every phone i've had barring Xperia Z3. Powerbanks are a great idea but look stupid hanging out of the bottom of your phone when you're making a call.
I totally agree with you. When I was purchasing I was in doubt about needing the good old fashioned samsung features but.. I just dont need it anymore! I feel perfect with my s6 the way it is. Battery is optimised for a day of full usage and if you need more juice you can charge it up really quickly (clap to samsung, it really takes just a few minutes of fast charging to get a lot of juice) or just have a battery bank with you: these "little" guys are the future, there is a big variety, from smaller and lighter ones to bigger and heavier. I have 2 of them, 1 small 2300mah 1,5 A of output and 1 big guy with 20000mah and 2 usb outs, 1 of 2,1 A and the other 2,4 A and thats amazing!
Water resistant? Come on, the best you can do with a "water resistant" phone is keeping it half a hour at half a meter of water....wooow really useful.
Come on.
I heard good things from Aukey Portable Battery 10000mAh (http://www.amazon.com/Aukey-10000mA...?ie=UTF8&qid=1435617316&sr=8-2&keywords=aukey)
It's cheap, supports QUICK CHARGE (the only one in the industry currently for a portable charger), and it can charge S6 up to 2 and a half times
Regarding the waterproof thing, I'm guessing no one uses their phones outside? Where it rains? I've lost the use of a phone by getting caught out in the rain before. I'm not saying all phones have to be waterproof, but as the technologies are improving, it wouldn't hurt to see it become more common. Oh, and how many of us have had the heart pounding moment when someone spills a drink?
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Regarding the waterproof thing, I'm guessing no one uses their phones outside? Where it rains? I've lost the use of a phone by getting caught out in the rain before. I'm not saying all phones have to be waterproof, but as the technologies are improving, it wouldn't hurt to see it become more common. Oh, and how many of us have had the heart pounding moment when someone spills a drink?
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you know getting caught in a rain storm scenario probably isn't the best example with waterproof argument with this phone, besides the fact who stands outside when it rains and talks on their phone unless they are no where around buildnings, their car or trees. Besides that the ports that are affected by water the most is on the bottom of your phone, which means it would have to rain from the ground up to affect it. Also they make little rubber stoppers that you can plug your headphone jack and charging ports with that would help this even more. I personally think unless your planning on taking a swim with your phone the water proof for most people is over rated. I know other scenarios could happen as accidents always do when you least expect them but that's what insurance/ protection plans is for.
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you know getting caught in a rain storm scenario probably isn't the best example with waterproof argument with this phone, besides the fact who stands outside when it rains and talks on their phone unless they are no where around buildnings, their car or trees. Besides that the ports that are affected by water the most is on the bottom of your phone, which means it would have to rain from the ground up to affect it. Also they make little rubber stoppers that you can plug your headphone jack and charging ports with that would help this even more. I personally think unless your planning on taking a swim with your phone the water proof for most people is over rated. I know other scenarios could happen as accidents always do when you least expect them but that's what insurance/ protection plans is for.
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You don't actually have to be using you phone for rain to be a problem some of us don't drive and have to walk a lot. If an unexpected storm appears, you can get incredibly wet!! The phone that got damaged that I mentioned, was in my pocket. Walking home from work. It is only about 10-15 to walk, too. But the rain was so heavy, when I got home, it looked like I'd been swimming fully dressed.
Let's not forget the buttons, sim slot, microphone and earpiece that are in the upper part of the phone too
I'm not saying that it's common, but from experience, it can happen
Hello everyone!
I have looked in both Amazon and eBay and can't seem to find this but do you guys know if there is a battery bank case out there to add more battery on our phones? I have regular battery banks but sometimes it is just more convenient to have a battery that is attached to your phone. If not I think I might just need to get some velcro and a slim battery bank.
Welp, after contacting the major folks: zerolemon, mophie and Motorola they said that they didn't have any plans to make one. I had to get some velcro and make my OWN Moto mods! The left is my Moto g4 plus and to the right is my work iPhone 6s with a real battery case.
can you make this one for me?or tell me how to do?
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Welp, after contacting the major folks: zerolemon, mophie and Motorola they said that they didn't have any plans to make one. I had to get some velcro and make my OWN Moto mods! The left is my Moto g4 plus and to the right is my work iPhone 6s with a real battery case.
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ZeroVirus said:
can you make this one for me?or tell me how to do?
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He used velcro tape as he mentioned, it's only to tighten the power bank on the back cover. BTW, the method is cool and looks like a bomb
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can you make this one for me?or tell me how to do?
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strongst said:
He used velcro tape as he mentioned, it's only to tighten the power bank on the back cover. BTW, the method is cool and looks like a bomb
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What strongst said. Below are the parts that you see in the picture. I can't put links yet I don't think.
Case: Incipio DualPro Case [will work with any case or even without one really]
Battery Bank: RAVPower 6700mah Palm Sized Portable Charger Power Bank (2.4A Output & 2A Input, iSmart 2.0 Technology) [I like this one because it provides faster charging which works for our phones and also is a nice handle with this velcro tape]
Velcro tape: Can be bought anywhere, I used the fuzzy side on the phone and the prickly side on the battery bank just because I hold the phone more.
@strongst - Thanks! Yes it does and people look at me weird when I use it. But when I am getting over 2 days battery life and 8-10 hours playing Pokemon Go! I can't complain.
If there is a manufacturer that is willing to make a decent battery case for us I will probably be one of the first ones to jump on it. I have one for my work phone and I don't mind the added weight it brings because I get decent added battery life on it. But I think with budget phones like ours chances are low that someone like ZeroLemon will make one for us.
Opps just broke charge port trying to carry this in pocket.
Easier to get a spare phone on another network than these idiot anker cases. I will be looking hard for a swapping battery phone next time. In safe mode I can only get 1/2 a work day. Which is about 14 to 15 hours.