Pixel XL April Factory/OTA Images Available + April Boot Image - Google Pixel XL Guides, News, & Discussion

Google Pixel XL April Factory and OTA Images are available to download. This is a maintenance release, bumping the version from OPM1 to OPM2.
Factory: https://developers.google.com/android/images
OTA: https://developers.google.com/android/ota
You can download the April boot image from my Google Drive for custom kernel development.
Changes:
Code:
Enable Assisted Dialing support Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Improve anomaly detection metrics All
Improve diskstats logging All
Improve handover from VoLTE to VoWi-Fi during Emergency calls on certain carriers Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Improve microvideo performance in Google Camera Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Reduce delays upon opening specific apps Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Improve decoding of certain video streams Pixel, Pixel XL
Improve fingerprint and keyboard latency in certain situations Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Adjust notifications when entering or exiting Wi-Fi coverage during a video call Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Enable IMS911 on certain networks Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL, Pixel, Pixel XL
Detect Wi-Fi Passport statistics for developers All
Improve lock screen performance All
Improve start time logging All
Improve magnetic sensor performance on Pixel 2/Pixel 2 XL Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Reduce battery drain after modem issues Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Improve modem stability on Pixel and Pixel 2 phones Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Adjust Call Forwarding UI Nexus 5X, Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Connectivity Improve multi-calling performance over Wi-Fi Pixel, Pixel XL
Improve data connectivity for T-Mobile users in parts of Australia Pixel, Pixel XL
Update certification Pixel, Pixel XL
Improve Wi-Fi stability on Pixel 2 phones Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Improve handover to Wi-Fi Calling in low-coverage areas Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Improve conference call performance over Wifi Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Improve VoLTE performance for some carriers Nexus 5X, Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Adjust APN updating behavior All
Improve settings app icons All
Upgrade certificates to ensure continued service. Nexus 5X, Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Add methods to PeerHandle API for developers All
Update Verizon Service APK for Pixel phones Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Logging Improve Wi-Fi and RPM logging Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Connectivity, Performance Improve connectivity and performance on certain carrier networks Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Improve notification listening apps All
Address call forwarding issue. All
Improve internet connectivity on Pixel 2 on certain WiFi networks Pixel 2
Adjust APN settings Nexus 5X, Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Improve MMS messaging performance on certain carriers Nexus 5X, Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Adjust battery learned capacity increment and decrement limits Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Change voice domain to CS for certain carriers Pixel XL
Adjust timeouts for Phone App All
Improve stability for Pixel 2 devices in certain parts of Canada Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Improve instant Apps performance All
Improve indicators for emergency call connectivity Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Optimize search logic to improve battery performance. Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Improve battery logging for Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Improve GPS Time performance on Pixel 2 XL Pixel 2 XL
Improve audio speaker performance during phone calls All
Adjust advanced calling settings for Verizon Nexus 5X, Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Connectivity Change to prioritize certain bands Nexus 5X, Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Connectivity Improve in-call performance for some carriers Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Improve network performance on Simyo carrier Nexus 5X
Improve connectivity metrics All
Improve experience switching between LTE and Wifi Pixel 2 XL
Improve data performance for devices with certain SIM cards All
Improve autofill logging All
Improve internal troubleshooting tools All
Improve network logging
April security bulletin: https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/pixel/2018-04-01.
Most notable changes for our device includes fixing the bad Wi-Fi battery drain (under A-67593274) and improved microphone/video performance. No words about the overcurrent charging bug and multi-touch issue.

Good work

P.S. SDK Platform-Tools (Windows) files have not changed since the Dec files.

Running fine here ?

No issues with latest Magisk? Easy to root?

Cares said:
No issues with latest Magisk? Easy to root?
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flash in twrp as normal

liam_davenport said:
flash in twrp as normal
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Agree. Update went very smoothly - especially now that TWRP can decrypt again. Flashed Factory (preserved data). Booted, confirmed update successful. Fastboot booted TWRP, Flashed Magisk. Confirmed Root, SafetyNet passing, etc...all looks good. Too early for impressions of the April 2018 update as of yet...but the laundry list of functional updates on board seems promising - some of them even targeted to the OG Pixel XL.

multi touch issue still hasn't get fixed.

Apparently the radio was upgraded in April. I don't have my pc right now and was wondering if anyone knew how to make a flashable zip of the April radio image to flash in recovery? Would be really appreciated.

Gordietm said:
Apparently the radio was upgraded in April. I don't have my pc right now and was wondering if anyone knew how to make a flashable zip of the April radio image to flash in recovery? Would be really appreciated.
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Apparenty is not possible.
Look here

TENN3R said:
Apparenty is not possible.
Look here
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The OTA can flash the radio images so It is possible to do it from recovery. Also I remember flashing radios with TWRP on older phones. However I personally no longer know how to make a flashable zip. Unless something changed recently it should be possible.
Just opened the latest OTA.zip and all I see is system and vendor. Is the radio included in vendor on the pixel? Sorry for the lack of knowledge, I havnen't done any modifications to my pixel. Still back in the CM days so I'm a couple of years behind current android way of doing things.

i didn't have any problems updating. i flashed the full factory image after editing flash-all.bat to remove the -w option to keep my data. i flashed the image to both slots. the latest twrp, 3.2.1-2, was able to decrypt and i flashed magisk 16.0 for root.

altwu said:
i didn't have any problems updating. i flashed the full factory image after editing flash-all.bat to remove the -w option to keep my data. i flashed the image to both slots. the latest twrp, 3.2.1-2, was able to decrypt and i flashed magisk 16.0 for root.
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How do you do it this way? Ever since I got a Pixel XL I have been flashing updates through my computer and ADB after removing the - w from flash-all.bat file. I remember with my Samsung phones I was able to put the image on my phone and flash through TWRP.

I have xposed installed. Do I need to uninstall that before updating?

clone1008 said:
How do you do it this way? Ever since I got a Pixel XL I have been flashing updates through my computer and ADB after removing the - w from flash-all.bat file. I remember with my Samsung phones I was able to put the image on my phone and flash through TWRP.
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George_Bushels said:
I have xposed installed. Do I need to uninstall that before updating?
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No need to uninstall anything.
Take a look at this mini-guide I made: it works for every release of oreo so far, zero problems.
Edit: on april update and with twrp 3.2.1-2 you don't need to remove lockscreen anymore. Or at least, if you prefer you can remove it, but it'n not necessary anymore.

clone1008 said:
How do you do it this way? Ever since I got a Pixel XL I have been flashing updates through my computer and ADB after removing the - w from flash-all.bat file. I remember with my Samsung phones I was able to put the image on my phone and flash through TWRP.
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i'm doing it the same way as you. i edit flash-all.bat to remove the -w option and use adb and a computer to flash. if you want to use twrp and not adb and a computer, you need to flash an ota. twrp can't flash the factory image. i've never tried this though. i always flash the full factory image.
this is what i do to flash both slots.
adb reboot bootloader.
fastboot --set-active=b.
fastboot reboot-bootloader.
run flash-all.bat.
wait for the phone to reboot and for the "finishing android update" notification to go away.
repeat steps 1-5, but with the active slot set to a.

altwu said:
i'm doing it the same way as you. i edit flash-all.bat to remove the -w option and use adb and a computer to flash. if you want to use twrp and not adb and a computer, you need to flash an ota. twrp can't flash the factory image. i've never tried this though. i always flash the full factory image.
this is what i do to flash both slots.
adb reboot bootloader.
fastboot --set-active=b.
fastboot reboot-bootloader.
run flash-all.bat.
wait for the phone to reboot and for the "finishing android update" notification to go away.
repeat steps 1-5, but with the active slot set to a.
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This is the way I do it but I don't specify a slot and phone works fine. What is the reason for flashing to both slots?
Sent from my Very Silver Pixel XL 128GB

mochamoo said:
This is the way I do it but I don't specify a slot and phone works fine. What is the reason for flashing to both slots?
Sent from my Very Silver Pixel XL 128GB
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no good reason. i flash both slots just for the sake of having them updated. and my ocd. :laugh:

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How to get Pixel exclusive apps (specifically for Daydream) on Nexus 6p

I am running a Rooted nexus 6p 7.1.1
I changed my build.prop file using Es file Explorer specifically the
Ro.product.model
Ro.product.name
To pixel XL.
This worked to enable the Google assistant and a few daydream apps such as Fantastic Beasts and where to find them and Clark. However, some of the apps still say phone is not compatible, such as, keep talking and nobody explodes.
So as the title says how do I get what I'm assuming pixel exclusive apps to run on Nexus 6P?

I left the Pixel 2 xl and now im back

I purchased a Pixel 2 XL when it first came out and I loved it but the development was slow so I switched to the Essential phone I also loved that phone but it was to glitchy. The Essential phone has come a long way now with all the updates it's a decent phone and the build quality is amazing but.... I still wasn't happy with it. I made another switch to the OnePlus 5t Red international variant and that phone was fantastic including the development but I didn't like the screen on that phone. Then I found my self on the Huawei Mate 10 Pro great phone but I hated the the UI/Skin on that phone so I then switch to the Galaxy S9 Plus which in my opinion has the best screen in the business and the build quality is excellent but once again I hated the UI/Skin on it. If I could get an S9 with stock Android on it I'd be in heaven ?. Now I'm back on the Pixel 2 XL and I'm so happy don't know why I even left in the first place.
mackentosh said:
I purchased a Pixel 2 XL when it first came out and I loved it but the development was slow so I switched to the Essential phone I also loved that phone but it was to glitchy. The Essential phone has come a long way now with all the updates it's a decent phone and the build quality is amazing but.... I still wasn't happy with it. I made another switch to the OnePlus 5t Red international variant and that phone was fantastic including the development but I didn't like the screen on that phone. Then I found my self on the Huawei Mate 10 Pro great phone but I hated the the UI/Skin on that phone so I then switch to the Galaxy S9 Plus which in my opinion has the best screen in the business and the build quality is excellent but once again I hated the UI/Skin on it. If I could get an S9 with stock Android on it I'd be in heaven ?. Now I'm back on the Pixel 2 XL and I'm so happy don't know why I even left in the first place.
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The prodigal son has returned home! Sounded like a fun trip though! ??
It's been a long "trip", But welcome back and Development has been moving forward decently!!
Exynos version of the S9 and S9+ can run official lineage OS
mackentosh said:
I purchased a Pixel 2 XL when it first came out and I loved it but the development was slow so I switched to the Essential phone I also loved that phone but it was to glitchy. The Essential phone has come a long way now with all the updates it's a decent phone and the build quality is amazing but.... I still wasn't happy with it. I made another switch to the OnePlus 5t Red international variant and that phone was fantastic including the development but I didn't like the screen on that phone. Then I found my self on the Huawei Mate 10 Pro great phone but I hated the the UI/Skin on that phone so I then switch to the Galaxy S9 Plus which in my opinion has the best screen in the business and the build quality is excellent but once again I hated the UI/Skin on it. If I could get an S9 with stock Android on it I'd be in heaven ?. Now I'm back on the Pixel 2 XL and I'm so happy don't know why I even left in the first place.
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Did you sell all of these or do you still have them?
PuffDaddy_d said:
Did you sell all of these or do you still have them?
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I still have the Essential and the S9+
dubt17 said:
Exynos version of the S9 and S9+ can run official lineage OS
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?????
mackentosh said:
I still have the Essential and the S9+
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How bad is the essentials camera? I've only used one in store and it didn't seem bad at all.
PuffDaddy_d said:
How bad is the essentials camera? I've only used one in store and it didn't seem bad at all.
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The Essential can run the Pixel camera almost perfectly
I did almost the same,
S8+
Note 8
One plus 5t
And now I have pixel 2 xl and ipx
I just love the stock Android and fast updates ,
So Android P on pixel and not to far iOS 12
I found out way back in the say that the only UI/skin I liked was stock Android. My galaxy s4 was when I really got into phone nodding. I was one of those spec idiots who seen Samsung as the best and looked at nothing else but also knew nothing about stock Android. Then I learned about more then just rooting and learned about custom roms. My galaxy S4 ran CM mod until I decided to try the lg g3 and then I did the same with that phone and ran cm on it until I finally the nexus 6 was supposed on Verizon. Then I bought that then my OG pixel xl and now pixel 2 xl.
My 1st P2XL had a very blue display. I returned it and got a much better unit but it started with the display flashing when the display turned off. I returned that one and got a good unit. The S9+ came out and I sold my Pixel and bought the Samsung phone, being kind of disillusioned by the problems I had with the Pixel. The S9+ is a good phone but I miss my Pixel. I thought about selling it & buying another P2XL but I think I can wait for the P3. The Samsung display is great, bluetooth works well which was an issue on my Pixel until recently - it seems to have been fixed. I tried to use the S9+ with it's stock apps but found myself replacing most of the basic apps with the Google counterparts. Hoping I can wait until October. Really miss my Pixel A less than optimal Pixel is better than anything else.
On a pixel 2 xl and a mate 10 pro. Pixel for private, Huawei for work (Hello Chinese state agents - What';s that you say ALL mobile phones are made in China?).
The Pixel is defintely nicer in-hand to use. But the Mate 10 Pro is also a great phone. I don't really get comments like "hated the UI/skin"? Just use a different launcher, the Pixel one works great on it.
palexr said:
On a pixel 2 xl and a mate 10 pro. Pixel for private, Huawei for work (Hello Chinese state agents - What';s that you say ALL mobile phones are made in China?).
The Pixel is defintely nicer in-hand to use. But the Mate 10 Pro is also a great phone. I don't really get comments like "hated the UI/skin"? Just use a different launcher, the Pixel one works great on it.
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The skin affects much more than the launcher. I loved my Honor 8, but no matter what launcher or theme I used, all of the system menus still looked like a cheap iOS knockoff and didn't match the look of the apps and launcher. It's not a deal breaker though, just a quirk that has no remedy.

If your not getting the Pixel 3 XL, what is your next phone

After seeing the disappointing specs on the new Pixel 3 XL I think I will give the new Pixel a miss, just wondering what else everyone thinking of getting instead of the Pixel 3 XL?
Next years pixel 4 without a flippin notch!! (Hopefully) My P2XL has got plenty of life for another year. And it doesn't have a flippin notch!!!
I'm thinking of getting Oneplus 6
Have no clue yet lol.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Badger50 said:
Next years pixel 4 without a flippin notch!! (Hopefully) My P2XL has got plenty of life for another year. And it doesn't have a flippin notch!!!
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I totally agree.
I don't like the notch in general, and I've really hoped Google will not go with this (ugly) trend, but they did.
Because the next Pixel XL gets "notched", this is the first time since the LG Nexus 5, I don't want to have the newest Google Phone.
My Pixel 2 XL is my favorite Pixel Phone so far and I'm happy to keep it one more year as my daily driver.
Is anyone considering the Note 9? I'm thinking about it but maybe I will just wait until the S10 comes out. This was my first Pixel phone but not sure I am going to stay with Pixel after this.
Badger50 said:
Next years pixel 4 without a flippin notch!! (Hopefully) My P2XL has got plenty of life for another year. And it doesn't have a flippin notch!!!
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+1
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Don't know, need to do some hand's on with Fall releases....
I'm extremely satisfied with my Pixel 2 XL and for once I'm not itching for an upgrade, especially after seeing the Pixel 3 XL specs.
Next year will be the better upgrade, been reading the Snapdragon 855 is supposed to a big leap forward, way more efficient, better battery life, but also a lot faster. And I'm sure for the Pixel 4 they'll add more RAM like 6GB or maybe 8GB then.
I'm just gonna hold it this year.
I also am very happy with my xl2. The 3 seems like a marginal upgrade. Same with all other flagships this year. None have major breakthrough features. Will probably wait until the xl4.
Although I am wondering since the xl3 is huge, maybe the regular 3 will be a good option if I were to upgrade. Come with latest hardware, not notch. If I can pay a few hundred after trade in I might consider it.
Agreed. I would love to swap phones yearly but coughing up the money up front and selling the previous one for as much as I can get is too much hassle for me. Plus I'd have more fun with a more significant updates than incremental ones.
Badger50 said:
Next years pixel 4 without a flippin notch!! (Hopefully) My P2XL has got plenty of life for another year. And it doesn't have a flippin notch!!!
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Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
I've been using the Note 8 for the last 8 months or so. Before that was a few months with the S8+. Before that was a string of Pixel XLs and Nexus devices. I just ordered the Pixel 2XL to try out Android Pie, so I'll be skipping the P3XL. So I guess the P2XL IS my next phone. Keeping Note 8 though.
Might just wait for the next pixel. Don't like notches at all and looks like Google decided to put the biggest notch ever on the 3 XL. I won't get the OnePlus 6...people think it's the best android for, for value yes, overall no, it still falls short in areas other flagships don't.
Probably pixel 3 or op6t for my mom but I'm not leaving my pixel 2 xl atleast for another year
Sent from my Google Pixel 2 XL using XDA Labs
Mr. Orange 645 said:
I've been using the Note 8 for the last 8 months or so. Before that was a few months with the S8+. Before that was a string of Pixel XLs and Nexus devices. I just ordered the Pixel 2XL to try out Android Pie, so I'll be skipping the P3XL. So I guess the P2XL IS my next phone. Keeping Note 8 though.
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How's the note 8?
Gravediggaz said:
How's the note 8?
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Best device I've ever owned. It runs great on Oreo. None of the Samsung jank that I experienced with their older devices. I've had an S7 Edge, a S3, and a Note II in the past. As well as phones from about every manufacturer, including Apple, LOL. So I'm able to compare it to a lot of phones.
TouchWiz, or the Samsung Experience as it's called now, really isn't bad at all. And I use the SPen, Samsung Pay, and Samsung Pass daily. It's why I can't get rid of it completely. The P2XL will be to just play around with and carry when I feel like switching it up. Note 8 will remain my main device.
I'm considering the Note 9 but not sure I want to go any bigger than what I have now.
Just got the 2XL in February so not really a need to upgrade. Also have an S8 sitting in a drawer that the 2XL replaced. Am thinking of picking up a Note 8 after the 9 release.
Probably just wait for the Pixel 4, maybe buy the watch or pixel buds if they aren't terrible.
OnePlus 6T

Pixel 3 unique features porting

I'm already hyping up for the new Pixel 3 software features, especially the AI camera shot, that automatically selects the best moment.
So, as it came out from the press, all of these new features will be completely unique to the Pixel 3 to make it stand out from the earlier models (even more so because the Pixel 2 XL is objectively better than the 3 XL, and I'd never waste that much to buy a phone that's uglier, with a smaller battery and the other specs that are the same except the cpu).
Them features are really amazing (as the ones that originally came out with the Pixel 2) and I cannot wait for developers to port them).
Thanks in advance for the great developers that we have here on XDA!

Pixels losing their edge on competition...

I have a Note 9 as my primary phone, and a Pixel 2 XL as a work phone. For awhile, Nexus and Pixel devices had a huge advantage in terms of speed and smoothness. However, after using a Note 9 with 8 GB RAM, I can honestly say the Pixel 2 XL feels slower and buggier. Sure, the camera on the Pixel 2 XL may be slightly better in certain scenarios, but virtually everything else is better on the Note 9. I know timely updates are also a consideration but Google is in a weird experimental phase where newer isn't always better. I've always been a fan of stock Android but is anyone else feeling like it's lacking a great deal of customization and useful features? I'm also a bit puzzled why the Pixel 3 XL is limited to 4 GB RAM, when 6 or 8 GB could have really boosted multi-tasking and gaming. The price is astronomical for such mid-range specs. which likely won't perform much better than the Pixel 2 line. If it weren't for locked bootloaders, high end Samsung and LG phones running Project Treble ROM's would blow Pixels out of the water. What are your thoughts?
Guyinlaca said:
I have a Note 9 as my primary phone, and a Pixel 2 XL as a work phone. For awhile, Nexus and Pixel devices had a huge advantage in terms of speed and smoothness. However, after using a Note 9 with 8 GB RAM, I can honestly say the Pixel 2 XL feels slower and buggier. Sure, the camera on the Pixel 2 XL may be slightly better in certain scenarios, but virtually everything else is better on the Note 9. I know timely updates are also a consideration but Google is in a weird experimental phase where newer isn't always better. I've always been a fan of stock Android but is anyone else feeling like it's lacking a great deal of customization and useful features? I'm also a bit puzzled why the Pixel 3 XL is limited to 4 GB RAM, when 6 or 8 GB could have really boosted multi-tasking and gaming. The price is astronomical for such mid-range specs. which likely won't perform much better than the Pixel 2 line. If it weren't for locked bootloaders, high end Samsung and LG phones running Project Treble ROM's would blow Pixels out of the water. What are your thoughts?
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You compare last year pixel with this year note, new Snapdragon Vs old, are you serious or are you trolling?
Guyinlaca said:
I have a Note 9 as my primary phone, and a Pixel 2 XL as a work phone. For awhile, Nexus and Pixel devices had a huge advantage in terms of speed and smoothness. However, after using a Note 9 with 8 GB RAM, I can honestly say the Pixel 2 XL feels slower and buggier. Sure, the camera on the Pixel 2 XL may be slightly better in certain scenarios, but virtually everything else is better on the Note 9. I know timely updates are also a consideration but Google is in a weird experimental phase where newer isn't always better. I've always been a fan of stock Android but is anyone else feeling like it's lacking a great deal of customization and useful features? I'm also a bit puzzled why the Pixel 3 XL is limited to 4 GB RAM, when 6 or 8 GB could have really boosted multi-tasking and gaming. The price is astronomical for such mid-range specs. which likely won't perform much better than the Pixel 2 line. If it weren't for locked bootloaders, high end Samsung and LG phones running Project Treble ROM's would blow Pixels out of the water. What are your thoughts?
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On point.. I am keeping my pixel 2 only for camera.. my wife has Note8 and gone are the days of Samsung lag.. though it's not as snappy as Pixel 2, Note8's other features out weigh pixel 2
To be fair, we shall see how the Pixel 3 XL compares in speed tests, but 4 GB RAM doesn't seem like it will cut it for power users. I'm also pointing out that other manufacturers have optimized their UI enough that there is no longer the disparity in smoothness that gives Pixels an advantage.
For me the pixel 2xl has been exactly what I expected and wanted.. zero bloatware, fast updates, storming camera.
As for Samsung phones, my opinion had been for a long time that they make possibly the best phones out there hardware wise, but the android experience on a whole is rubbish. Bloatware, Bixby, slow updates.
Why there is no switch in Samsungs software to make the phone run stock Android beats me. I'd sooner have a Nokia 8 /Scirocco over a Samsung every day of the week.
However what really annoys me is the reviewers from various websites..
Looks last year because it's not quite full screen blah blah blah and then complain about the pixel 3xl having a notch !!!
I'm happy to have a border top and bottom and have stereo speakers.
No wireless charging on pixel 2 winge. Well I'd sooner have the aluminium back if I'm honest. Less to break if dropped.
Reviewers will be still pissing and moaning when it costs people as much as an iPhone to repair a back glass panel.
If I was in the market for the pixel 3 this year, I'd be going for the 3 and not the XL purely because of the notch on the XL.
As it stands, the Mrs has ordered the pixel 3, coming from an s7 edge and my upgrade will coincide with the pixel 4 next year.
I am really excited about the pixel 3 software enhancements trickling down to the pixel 2 like call screening.
Either waiting on Google to update or the geniuses on XDA porting it out.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Guyinlaca said:
I have a Note 9 as my primary phone, and a Pixel 2 XL as a work phone. For awhile, Nexus and Pixel devices had a huge advantage in terms of speed and smoothness. However, after using a Note 9 with 8 GB RAM, I can honestly say the Pixel 2 XL feels slower and buggier. Sure, the camera on the Pixel 2 XL may be slightly better in certain scenarios, but virtually everything else is better on the Note 9. I know timely updates are also a consideration but Google is in a weird experimental phase where newer isn't always better. I've always been a fan of stock Android but is anyone else feeling like it's lacking a great deal of customization and useful features? I'm also a bit puzzled why the Pixel 3 XL is limited to 4 GB RAM, when 6 or 8 GB could have really boosted multi-tasking and gaming. The price is astronomical for such mid-range specs. which likely won't perform much better than the Pixel 2 line. If it weren't for locked bootloaders, high end Samsung and LG phones running Project Treble ROM's would blow Pixels out of the water. What are your thoughts?
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Agreed. I have a 2xl. I ordered the 3 XL and cancelled it the same day. My 2xl runs amazing still. All I get would be a notch. I don't take crazy pics at all. One thing that bugs the hell out of me about pixel is the apps in memory. It's kills the so fast, especially my stock messages app! It's annoying as hell. I have always hated on samsung but have seriously been considering switching it up completely and getting a note 9. Plus Samsung will give me more than Google for trade in!
And you know, Samsung is explosively better.....
Guyinlaca said:
I have a Note 9 as my primary phone, and a Pixel 2 XL as a work phone. For awhile, Nexus and Pixel devices had a huge advantage in terms of speed and smoothness. However, after using a Note 9 with 8 GB RAM, I can honestly say the Pixel 2 XL feels slower and buggier. Sure, the camera on the Pixel 2 XL may be slightly better in certain scenarios, but virtually everything else is better on the Note 9. I know timely updates are also a consideration but Google is in a weird experimental phase where newer isn't always better. I've always been a fan of stock Android but is anyone else feeling like it's lacking a great deal of customization and useful features? I'm also a bit puzzled why the Pixel 3 XL is limited to 4 GB RAM, when 6 or 8 GB could have really boosted multi-tasking and gaming. The price is astronomical for such mid-range specs. which likely won't perform much better than the Pixel 2 line. If it weren't for locked bootloaders, high end Samsung and LG phones running Project Treble ROM's would blow Pixels out of the water. What are your thoughts?
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> Comparing 2017 device with 2018
> In meanwhile Touchwiz has problems to keep smooth for a long time which Pixel doesn't
> Only 2017 device probably getting Android R
> Update speed is nowhere better than on Pixel
> More RAM wouldn't have boost anything, needing more RAM is more a sign of poor RAM management
You forget so many facts m8
I want more bang for the $buck!
PDesire said:
> Comparing 2017 device with 2018
> In meanwhile Touchwiz has problems to keep smooth for a long time which Pixel doesn't
> Only 2017 device probably getting Android R
> Update speed is nowhere better than on Pixel
> More RAM wouldn't have boost anything, needing more RAM is more a sign of poor RAM management
You forget so many facts m8
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Maybe RAM would help cuz the pixel memory management is the worst I have ever had. I will have my messages open and Spotify and my messages will be killed off in a couple min. So annoying
PDesire said:
> Comparing 2017 device with 2018
> In meanwhile Touchwiz has problems to keep smooth for a long time which Pixel doesn't
> Only 2017 device probably getting Android R
> Update speed is nowhere better than on Pixel
> More RAM wouldn't have boost anything, needing more RAM is more a sign of poor RAM management
You forget so many facts m8
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From my personal experience, the most snappiest and best ram management was with my OnePlus 3. Yes even compared to my Pixel 2 XL.
Updates were also decent with OnePlus.
More RAM doesn't hurt, and the Pixel's RAM management is poor (really bad compared to the OnePlus 3) and therefore it can really use a boost in RAM. It has also been documented by others that the pixel does slow down overtime and I myself have noticed it.
I do clean installs very regularly and I do not use the restore functionality that Google offers; I always setup from scratch. I even avoided a factory reset for two months as to allow the phone to learn my usage to get better battery to no avail.
I have used a lot of Samsung devices through the years and they have been getting better with each generation in terms of their performance.
I like the Pixel's camera and clean UI. However, this will be my first and last Google phone until the foreseeable future as I do not like the design choices and performance to cost ratio.
OnePlus also has had privacy scandals and the reason for my move from the OnePlus was because of the lackluster camera.
For those of us on Verizon, our options are limited for a clean experience. It's either buy a Pixel direct from Google, buy a Samsung made for Latin America or China with an unlockable bootloader and go through activation hoops, or buy an Unlocked US Samsung or LG which gives decent options without needing root or ROMs.
Seeing a OnePlus 6 with 8 GB RAM for under $600 does make you question if Pixels are overpriced. If they'd have released a Pixel Ultra with 6 or 8 GB RAM with no/ a smaller notch, I'd have gotten it.
Also note that one can easily get an LG V35 ThinQ or Samsung S9+ for $300+ cheaper.
Guyinlaca said:
Also note that one can easily get an LG V35 ThinQ or Samsung S9+ for $300+ cheaper.
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Where are they selling S9+ for $599 or less?
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EeZeEpEe said:
Where are they selling S9+ for $599 or less?
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Swappa
S8ntsHaz3 said:
Swappa
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Oh he made it sound like brand new ones for $599.
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