Always on display and burn in - Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion

I've got me pixel 2 XL a short while and one thing that is a little annoying is that fingerprint response is show. I've read that the fingerprint reader on the 2 XL was very fast. I've never experienced this. So after reading up on the issue, I've read that if I turned on always on ambient display it would speed up the fingerprint sensor. I've tried it and it does quicken it's response time.
Can anyone tell me if leaving ambient turned on cause screen burn in?
P. S Will Google revert the fingerprint sensors speed back to the way it was with a future update?

1jcdub said:
I've got me pixel 2 XL a short while and one thing that is a little annoying is that fingerprint response is show. I've read that the fingerprint reader on the 2 XL was very fast. I've never experienced this. So after reading up on the issue, I've read that if I turned on always on ambient display it would speed up the fingerprint sensor. I've tried it and it does quicken it's response time.
Can anyone tell me if leaving ambient turned on cause screen burn in?
P. S Will Google revert the fingerprint sensors speed back to the way it was with a future update?
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I've never seen anyone report screen burn in by using AOD. Which is why the AOD display moves ever so slightly on the screen. As to what/if Google will do about the fingerprint scanner......your guess is as good as anyone's! ??

Badger50 said:
I've never seen anyone report screen burn in by using AOD. Which is why the AOD display moves ever so slightly on the screen. As to what/if Google will do about the fingerprint scanner......your guess is as good as anyone's! ??
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I'll turn AOD so and how for a fix down the road ??
Thanks

I've had AOD on since day one with my phone in October. No burn in seen. It does turn off when in a pocket or screen facing down by the way.

EeZeEpEe said:
I've had AOD on since day one with my phone in October. No burn in seen. It does turn off when in a pocket or screen facing down by the way.
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same here

AOD works a treat... If you have rare issues later, the fix is to return the device RMA.

Looks like the April patch makes many improvements. One of which is lock screen performance and Improve fingerprint and keyboard latency in certain situations..
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/...8-ota-files-system-images-available-download/
P. S downloading the update now

1jcdub said:
I've got me pixel 2 XL a short while and one thing that is a little annoying is that fingerprint response is show. I've read that the fingerprint reader on the 2 XL was very fast. I've never experienced this. So after reading up on the issue, I've read that if I turned on always on ambient display it would speed up the fingerprint sensor. I've tried it and it does quicken it's response time.
Can anyone tell me if leaving ambient turned on cause screen burn in?
P. S Will Google revert the fingerprint sensors speed back to the way it was with a future update?
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AOD certainly can cause burn in. Especially if stays on for a long time(like when not in a pocket). Burn in is a result of uneven pixel aging and AOD leaves the same pixels on constantly. AOD also has a noticeable decrease in battery drain. For those reasons I don't even use it.

After updating with the April patch and it seems there is no improvement with the fingerprint unlocking speed

jimv1983 said:
AOD certainly can cause burn in. Especially if stays on for a long time(like when not in a pocket). Burn in is a result of uneven pixel aging and AOD leaves the same pixels on constantly. AOD also has a noticeable decrease in battery drain. For those reasons I don't even use it.
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They've thought of that already. It's what @Badger50 mentioned in his comment.
https://9to5google.com/2017/10/17/google-pixel-2-oled-burn-in-protection/
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1jcdub said:
After updating with the April patch and it seems there is no improvement with the fingerprint unlocking speed
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Interesting. It was listed in the change log.

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Adaptive brightness issues

Is anyone having trouble with the adaptive brightness. I have it turned on and the brightness of the screen is not change regardless whether i'm in a fully lite room or in a dark room. I have it turned on in settings under display. Is there more too it? am I missing something?
Screen protector messing with the sensor?
nrfitchett4 said:
Screen protector messing with the sensor?
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No screen protector.. however I believe this is user error. I just read up on the difference between auto-brightness and adaptive brightness (which is on 5.1.1 and later). My device as functioning as expected.
The adaptive brightness on my device seems really sensitive, it even changes when the image on my TV changes from dark to light in a darkish room.
Agreed; mine is annoyingly sensitive, if I can say that. Very distracting while driving at night with the GPS on. Every minute it goes between bright and dark. Didn't have this on Nexus 6.
bicho6 said:
No screen protector.. however I believe this is user error. I just read up on the difference between auto-brightness and adaptive brightness (which is on 5.1.1 and later). My device as functioning as expected.
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Could you expand on this a little more?
allen099 said:
Agreed; mine is annoyingly sensitive, if I can say that. Very distracting while driving at night with the GPS on. Every minute it goes between bright and dark. Didn't have this on Nexus 6.
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Yes. It happened to me while driving at night also. I hope that it will be tweaked and will be less sensitive.
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nrfitchett4 said:
Screen protector messing with the sensor?
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No part of the phone protector covers anything on the screen-side, but are there ambient light sensors on the back, next to the camera?
I've got the issue too. Has anyone seen a solution like a kernel, xposed module or something?

[PROBLEM] Nexus 6P Screen flickering ?!?!

Dear Friends,
In peripheral vision, I can see a the 6p screen flickering slightly. Mostly only noticeable on bright white and green screens on full brightness (without auto brightness adjustment)
Can you please do me a solid one and check it out on your device?
1. Turn Off brightness adjustment in Display settings
2. Set phone to full brightness
3. Load a completely white background (chrome browser starting page or any screen testing tool)
4. Hold the phone centrally close to your face and look at another object in the room while viewing the phone in your peripheral vision
5. Look back and forth at the object in the room and at the screen to see if you notice a slight flickering or restlessness in the screen
The flickering is very faint and hard to notice in peripheral vision but it is definitely there. I tired the same with an iphone 6plus and the iphone screen (my brothers Iphone, I'd never buy none) definitely has no flicker at all. It's very steady.
The screen is also not as bright as the iphone 6+ but I think that is well known.
I'd like to know if it is standard with all nexus 6p's and if it bothers you at all.... maybe I am just obsessing or maybe not and I need to RMA the device which is a huge pain in the ass.
Thanks!
Thomas
I do not have this issue at all. There are two possibilities, there is a defect with your device OR you are sensitive to the refreshing of the display. However, most modern displays have a refresh rate of 60Hz or higher (I assume the Nexus 6P and iPhone 6 are 60Hz, but I cannot find that info) so it's odd you haven't experienced this with other devices.
My best advice is for you to get your hands on a different Nexus 6P to see if you have the same problem. If you can't do that, I would suggest you try to see if you notice it in any other displays. Maybe go to a store and try it with a Samsung Galaxy S6/Note 5 as those have a similar AMOLED display, whereas the iPhone is LCD.
Thanks for your quick feedback. I am really surprised that noone has noticed this. I am looking at the device straight I don't notice it either it is only in peripheral vision that I can see it but even then it is very hard to catch. I think that indeed it must have something to do with the refresh rate of the screen.
Maybe other people can give it a try ? I have a gut feeling that it is an "issue" in all Nexus 6P devices but that most people don't notice it because it takes a very malicious mind to see it. Maybe it's because the device is brand new and the screen needs some time to "break in" or "adjust" ?
I just want to make sure that I don't have a defective device.
Thanks everyone
Maybe It's related to http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/screen-flicker-pwm-question-t3228826 ??
exxi said:
Maybe It's related to http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/screen-flicker-pwm-question-t3228826 ??
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I have heard of that before, but you're seeing the issue on super high brightness. Perhaps try it on a lower brightness to see if it worsens.
PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) is used for making the display darker. For example, say that a phone has a 60Hz refresh rate, meaning all of the pixels update 60 times each second. To make the display dimmer, the pixels are on for a shorter period of time in between each refresh. For maximum brightness, the pixels are on for the entire time between each refresh. Thus, when the display is dimmer, some might notice flickering as the pixels turn on and off.
Billy, again, thanks for your response. I will give it a try.
The best way I can describe it is that the effect is extremely subtle; so much, that I don't notice it looking directly at the screen but it translates into a sort of "nervousness" of the screen in general because you are left with the feeling that the screen is constantly moving and not really 100% steady. I am not sure if it is something I can/will get used to over time but I am willing to give it a try for a few days.
I am also almost certain that I don't have a hypersensitivity of some sorts but rather that all Nexus 6P phones have this issue just that most of the people don't really notice it.
I'd love to hear from others about if they see it
It's normal, it's caused by PWM. I don't notice it much on my 6P,my Note 4 had it much worse. Some people are more aware of it than others and seem more succepatble to seeing it.
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Batfink33 said:
It's normal, it's caused by PWM. I don't notice it much on my 6P,my Note 4 had it much worse. Some people are more aware of it than others and seem more succepatble to seeing it.
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Thanks nice to hear that it is "normal" i was worried i had a defective unit
So you are saying if you really pay attention to it, you WILL notice some of it for ANY person, right?
I have a Galaxy S6 and I have not noticed it there. Does that mean that the S6 is not using PWM ?
Thanks
exxi said:
Thanks nice to hear that it is "normal" i was worried i had a defective unit
So you are saying if you really pay attention to it, you WILL notice some of it for ANY person, right?
I have a Galaxy S6 and I have not noticed it there. Does that mean that the S6 is not using PWM ?
Thanks
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I think the S6 uses it also but some phones seem worse than others. As I said, I can see my 6P a little but my Note 4 was worse, I could see the flicker all the time.
I just checked my S6 for the issue (side by side with the 6P) and I can say with confidence that the S6 does not have the issue AT ALL. The screen does not flicker in peripheral vision and as a result appears steadier and calmer in general.
If i hold a video camera over each screen I can see scan-lines moving diagonally upward in regular intervals/spacing which both phones, however the lines are stronger and more visible with the 6P Screen. Which in my humble option explain why I am noticing this effect. I am just not sure if something like that warrants the effort of returning or swapping out my 6P
It doesn't really bother me but knowing that maybe other 6P devices have it less makes me think because I shelled out 699€ for it....
What would you do?
exxi said:
I just checked my S6 for the issue (side by side with the 6P) and I can say with confidence that the S6 does not have the issue AT ALL. The screen does not flicker in peripheral vision and as a result appears steadier and calmer in general.
If i hold a video camera over each screen I can see scan-lines moving diagonally upward in regular intervals/spacing which both phones, however the lines are stronger and more visible with the 6P Screen. Which in my humble option explain why I am noticing this effect. I am just not sure if something like that warrants the effort of returning or swapping out my 6P
It doesn't really bother me but knowing that maybe other 6P devices have it less makes me think because I shelled out 699€ for it....
What would you do?
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Does it get worse on the 6P when you turn the brightness down? How about on the S6, if you turn the brightness down (which should exemplify the PWM issue) does it have the same effect as the 6P?
BillyTheRatKing said:
Does it get worse on the 6P when you turn the brightness down? How about on the S6, if you turn the brightness down (which should exemplify the PWM issue) does it have the same effect as the 6P?
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Thanks for asking. When I turn the brightness down on the 6P it gets better; the effect is not noticeable anymore when it's set on 50% brightness. As soon as I have it on 100% I can see it from the corner of my eyes when set on a white background.
The question is really if I can expect it to be different on another 6P or if all the 6P's have this level of subtle "flickering" if I may call it.
I suspect the latter... and from this point of view it doesn't make sense to swap it out. if you are able to notice it ever so slightly on your device then changes are that it is present on all devices and that the 6P just has it more than for example the Samsung S6 because on the sammy I can't notice it at all, even on full or low brightness for that matter.
As you've said , if it were a PWM issue, It would worsen with low brightness, correct? In my case it worsens with high brightness. So what really is it then?
Quick question... Under normal day-to-day usage, you look at your screen out of the corner of your eyes and have the brightness set at 100%?
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Quick question... Under normal day-to-day usage, you look at your screen out of the corner of your eyes and have the brightness set at 100%?
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You're asking the right questions here and the answer is no to both ?
However I hope your can understand my concern because in the beginning nothing is more important than having a flawless device to my very rigid mind.
Also im worries that the screen in general is not calm as compared to other models such as the s6. Basically that since the flicker is present I might still perceive it even when looking straight at the screen.
I decided to order another 6P to be able to compare the 2 and see if the issue persists on the new device. Depending on the outcome I will keep one or return both. The flickering is really evident and IMO unacceptable for a device with this pricetag.
I am not sure if this is the same thing, but see the flicker in the attached video. It's at 5th,10th and 15th seconds. But then I checked it on Galaxy S4 and see it there as well. I don't notice it in any other screen. May be NBA app is causing it.
https://youtu.be/wtAiMt32GfI
nsical said:
I am not sure if this is the same thing, but see the flicker in the attached video. It's at 5th,10th and 15th seconds. But then I checked it on Galaxy S4 and see it there as well. I don't notice it in any other screen. May be NBA app is causing it.
https://youtu.be/wtAiMt32GfI
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that is indeed odd. I think the app is causing it
I am just surprised that noone else has noticed the flickering as i described above. It is quite evident when you hold the phone in front of your face and look at something in the room. I wish others would give me some feedback on it
exxi said:
I am just surprised that noone else has noticed the flickering as i described above. It is quite evident when you hold the phone in front of your face and look at something in the room. I wish others would give me some feedback on it
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I have been searching for someone, anyone, who has this issue as I do. Everything you said previously, I experience as well. I've had a 6p since November, and the flickering was there from day one. It's easy to notice at >50% brightness on white or greenish screens. Less so on red and blue. It's something I've gotten somewhat used to, but sometimes it really bugs me. Have you had any success with trying things?
I have recorded the screens of the 6p and 5x. The difference and flicker of the 6p is clear.
Nexus 6p: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEA41Uoehkg
Nexus 5x: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCMEvUsA0TQ

Will Night Clock cause burn in?

Doesn't seem like the clock or battery icon move around like Always On mode. Will this eventually cause burn in?
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No. Amoled displays don't suffer from that. Even high quality LCD displays like found on the iPhone will have a hard time causing burn in.
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The information provided above is false. Amoled screens can suffer from burn in. However, with the Always On Display, the clock moves around every 3 minutes or so to avoid burn in.
CuBz90 said:
The information provided above is false. Amoled screens can suffer from burn in. However, with the Always On Display, the clock moves around every 3 minutes or so to avoid burn in.
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He's asking about the night mode, which puts the clock on the edge of the screen. It doesn't move around in that mode.
I don't know the answer, but I don't use it for that fear.
berfles said:
He's asking about the night mode, which puts the clock on the edge of the screen. It doesn't move around in that mode.
I don't know the answer, but I don't use it for that fear.
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Ah!
I imagine the night clock woukd cause burn in ad it does stay in one place.
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Well the numbers do change every hour and minute so I think it would be hard to get any noticeable burn in.
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Richieboy67 said:
Well the numbers do change every hour and minute so I think it would be hard to get any noticeable burn in.
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Unfortunately the battery icon and next alarm displayed doesn't change.
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I was wondering this and also worried about burn in , so I turned off night clock because it doesn't move, and I'm asleep so I don't need it on.
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I doubt it, the brightness would be low enough to minimize the risk of burn-in.
I don't think it would. I have mine set to only stay on from 1AM until 5AM (the hours I'm most likely to wake up in the middle of the night and want to see the time.)
I don't think 4 hours is enough to cause burn in being how the pixels are lit up very dim when using the night clock.
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I doubt it, the brightness would be low enough to minimize the risk of burn-in.
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The pixels are stilll active though, shortening their "life". Will you notice any burn in or difference in screen quality in that area within a month or six? Probably not, but it'll burn in (or, leave a mark if you want) no matter what after 24+ months. AMOLED is a tricky technology, so I personally stay away from "AMOLED black" themes and whatnot. Why? The black areas are turned off, while the colored/lightened pixels are lit up. The areas that are "off" will have a longer "pixel life" than the ones most used, so it'll make a sort of "ghosting" effect after a while (2 years+). Using a theme or whatever that's "even", i.e not on and off at different places will give me an even "burn out".
I have no idea how good the EDGE's panel is though, so this is pretty much pure speculation, with some facts mixed in!
At first I was also worried that the pixels don't change position, but having it on for a week, I think it's too dark to cause a burn-in.
The Always-On clock looks like it'll burn in more because it's bright even though it moves around every couple minutes.
I use a black background. I don't think it'll cause uneven wear. Every time I use a web browser, the background is mostly white. I think that's enough to evenly burn in the screen. I usually keep the screen little dimmer than normal to avoid burn in., but I'm not afraid of ramping up the brightness when I'm outside under the sun or reviewing photos.
One thing I don't like about the night clock is that it shows the alarm that's couple days out. I think Samsung really need to fix this as this is obviously a bug, or they didn't test it enough.
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At first I was also worried that the pixels don't change position, but having it on for a week, I think it's too dark to cause a burn-in.
The Always-On clock looks like it'll burn in more because it's bright even though it moves around every couple minutes.
I use a black background. I don't think it'll cause uneven wear. Every time I use a web browser, the background is mostly white. I think that's enough to evenly burn in the screen. I usually keep the screen little dimmer than normal to avoid burn in., but I'm not afraid of ramping up the brightness when I'm outside under the sun or reviewing photos.
One thing I don't like about the night clock is that it shows the alarm that's couple days out. I think Samsung really need to fix this as this is obviously a bug, or they didn't test it enough.
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Everything is pure speculation regarding the AMOLED panel around here, so we won't really know anything concrete until something happens, or someone gets a nasty burn-in. I doubt anyone will get a nasty burn-in though, but I guess someone will get some burn-in down the road, but that's pretty much expected.
I have a Galaxy Note (first gen.) that I used for about 18 months before getting a new device, and I've borrowed it to my mom. I checked it out again this week after not checking it out for about two years, and the display looks like ****, but it doesn't look more **** as it did the day I gave it to her, so it's "bad" if I'm trying to edit some photos, but it's not catastrophically bad at all. The only place it's burnt in is the statusbar, which is black on pre-lollipop versions if I remember correctly.
Hi clever people
So I'm a bit confused. I found this thread because I was afraid of a burn-in caused by the night clock too.
And I won't use it. But how about the always on display, then - by using that, is there a risk of shortening the life of the pixels? In that case, I'd just turn it off. But if not, well, then it's a neat feature
Well, I have set night clock every night, It doesn't burn the AMOLED screen. It's completely safe. Try it on your own, no risk They prevent burn in, because of brightness help keep prevent burn-in.
kylelopez20 said:
Well, I have set night clock every night, It doesn't burn the AMOLED screen. It's completely safe. Try it on your own, no risk They prevent burn in, because of brightness help keep prevent burn-in.
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Thanks. I was more curious, though, as to how the Always on Display feature might affect pixels and the screen lifetime too, and thus, if it'd be better to not use this feature
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No. Amoled displays don't suffer from that. Even high quality LCD displays like found on the iPhone will have a hard time causing burn in.
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False. AMOLEDS suffer burn in, and LCDs will rarely ever experience it.
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J.Biden said:
The pixels are stilll active though, shortening their "life". Will you notice any burn in or difference in screen quality in that area within a month or six? Probably not, but it'll burn in (or, leave a mark if you want) no matter what after 24+ months. AMOLED is a tricky technology, so I personally stay away from "AMOLED black" themes and whatnot. Why? The black areas are turned off, while the colored/lightened pixels are lit up. The areas that are "off" will have a longer "pixel life" than the ones most used, so it'll make a sort of "ghosting" effect after a while (2 years+). Using a theme or whatever that's "even", i.e not on and off at different places will give me an even "burn out".
I have no idea how good the EDGE's panel is though, so this is pretty much pure speculation, with some facts mixed in!
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No offense that is the most stupid reason I've heard not to use dark/black themes. White themes ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO CAUSE BURN IN, PERIOD. You reduce burn in by reducing energy consumption and pixel usage.

Always on display

I just turned my screen on and noticed a slight burn in on the display caused by the always on display. It wasn't too bad but it was visible for about 5 minutes. I have since turned always on display off. Anyone else had this happen?
McQueefus said:
I just turned my screen on and noticed a slight burn in on the display caused by the always on display. It wasn't too bad but it was visible for about 5 minutes. I have since turned always on display off. Anyone else had this happen?
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I have not noticed it, no.
McQueefus said:
I just turned my screen on and noticed a slight burn in on the display caused by the always on display. It wasn't too bad but it was visible for about 5 minutes. I have since turned always on display off. Anyone else had this happen?
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The image on the AOD is supposed to move around slightly on the screen to prevent burn in. Please excuse my questioning, but are you sure it wasn't something with your eyes? Like when you look directly at a light bulb when it's turning on and you get that floating bulb of light imprinted on your eyes for like 5 minutes? (Know what I'm talking about?).
The AOD is constantly being updated via the Galaxy Apps store though. Maybe youre outdated or theres a bug currently. Wouldn't hurt to contact Samsung via the app store and report it.
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The image on the AOD is supposed to move around slightly on the screen to prevent burn in. Please excuse my questioning, but are you sure it wasn't something with your eyes? Like when you look directly at a light bulb when it's turning on and you get that floating bulb of light imprinted on your eyes for like 5 minutes? (Know what I'm talking about?).
The AOD is constantly being updated via the Galaxy Apps store though. Maybe youre outdated or theres a bug currently. Wouldn't hurt to contact Samsung via the app store and report it.
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Yeah I am pretty sure it wasn't just my eyes, it does move around like it should but I am wondering if it needs to move a little more. I think I have the latest update but I will double check. I guess if it does burn in permanently it would be under warranty so maybe i should just turn it back on
How can you tell if it moves or not? I can't see mine moving at all. Sometimes it's in a different position though either top, middle or bottom.
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How can you tell if it moves or not? I can't see mine moving at all. Sometimes it's in a different position though either top, middle or bottom.
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You need to stare at it really intensely for the 10 minutes it takes to move. Don't look away! Warning: You may end up seeing an afterimage like someone suspected of OP. By the way, OP, I am not sure that seeing an image for a few mins. qualifies as burn in. If it were true burn-in, would it not fade away and stay permanently? I do understand your concern, though, and would continue to seek info, since I imagine your concern is that this is a precursor to burn-in, or how it looks in the early stages. Your assignment? Keep staring at that screen. Do not look away, lol!
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How can you tell if it moves or not? I can't see mine moving at all. Sometimes it's in a different position though either top, middle or bottom.
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I think it either moves very slowly over time, or the image just "pops" to a different location after some amount of time. Im not 100% sure. I've only used AOD for a little while before sacrificing it to the Battery Saver Mode. You cant have Battery Saver Mode on and AOD at the same time.
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You need to stare at it really intensely for the 10 minutes it takes to move. Don't look away! Warning: You may end up seeing an afterimage like someone suspected of OP. By the way, OP, I am not sure that seeing an image for a few mins. qualifies as burn in. If it were true burn-in, would it not fade away and stay permanently? I do understand your concern, though, and would continue to seek info, since I imagine your concern is that this is a precursor to burn-in, or how it looks in the early stages. Your assignment? Keep staring at that screen. Do not look away, lol!
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Lol and yeah, thats my definition of burn in at least. Id definitely call OP's issue concerning nonetheless. You shouldn't be seeing an image stuck on the screen after waking it. AT ALL.
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Indeed, it is just concerning. Also, I agree, I don't think it's really screen burn in but it very well could have the potential.

Anyone without Screen Retention?

Is there anyone here that has used LG V20 for more than 6 months and does not have any screen retention / burn in?
If yes, are you not using maximum brightness or is there any precautions that you have been practicing to avoid it? I am very tempted to get a V20, but the screen retention issue is kind of worrying me.
Doom Scythe said:
Is there anyone here that has used LG V20 for more than 6 months and does not have any screen retention / burn in?
If yes, are you not using maximum brightness or is there any precautions that you have been practicing to avoid it? I am very tempted to get a V20, but the screen retention issue is kind of worrying me.
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I've had my phone since July and I am noticing retention. It's only around the edges though (part of the status bar clock, nav buttons.) You don't really see it unless you're using a fullscreen app with dark colors around the spots. Only the edges of the screen burn really, the navbar buttons are never burned in all the way, just the bottom half and then it fades the further up you go. Overall not much of an issue. I usually stay at 40% brightness, however. I only notice retention when the phone is hot (ie, charging).
I've had mine since February and I don't have any at all yet. It's on auto-brightness at 30% right now. I'm not the kind of person that is on their phone all the time though.
Download sfilter from play store and activate it at 10 % with the filter you like and bye bye screen retention ?
I have had mine since 10/25/16 and have glaucoma so I use it all the time at 80-93% brightness and do not have retention at all. I have the screen off glow from second screen but they all have that and its only when the screen is off in a dark room.
Aymenitoo said:
Download sfilter from play store and activate it at 10 % with the filter you like and bye bye screen retention
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Wouldn't Comfort view do the same thing unless it does not get dark enough?
reaverclan said:
I have had mine since 10/25/16 and have glaucoma so I use it all the time at 80-93% brightness and do not have retention at all. I have the screen off glow from second screen but they all have that and its only when the screen is off in a dark room.
Wouldn't Comfort view do the same thing unless it does not get dark enough?
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In the app sfilter keep it in 10 % (to keep filter near to the real color of the screen) and you can uncrease or decrease brightness as you want its confortable don't worry
Thisisabadname said:
I've had my phone since July and I am noticing retention. It's only around the edges though (part of the status bar clock, nav buttons.) You don't really see it unless you're using a fullscreen app with dark colors around the spots. Only the edges of the screen burn really, the navbar buttons are never burned in all the way, just the bottom half and then it fades the further up you go. Overall not much of an issue. I usually stay at 40% brightness, however. I only notice retention when the phone is hot (ie, charging).
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Looks like a typical case of serious burn case since it has only bee 2 months.
reaverclan said:
I have had mine since 10/25/16 and have glaucoma so I use it all the time at 80-93% brightness and do not have retention at all. I have the screen off glow from second screen but they all have that and its only when the screen is off in a dark room.
Wouldn't Comfort view do the same thing unless it does not get dark enough?
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Interesting. Did you try to check for screen retention by setting the screen to all white?
Aymenitoo said:
Download sfilter from play store and activate it at 10 % with the filter you like and bye bye screen retention
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This means I will have to keep it on like that for the whole day?
Doom Scythe said:
This means I will have to keep it on like that for the whole day?
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As you like you can keep it work all the day without problem at all without battery drain to , i was using it all days in my lg v10 and no image retention with the app working in background .
It's a good solution try it and tell me your feedback.
You can also open it and close it when image retention is gone .
Doom Scythe said:
Interesting. Did you try to check for screen retention by setting the screen to all white?
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I would love to take a pic for you but i'm here atm lol, when this is resolved I will take a pic for you.
reaverclan said:
Okay I have a problem That I hope can be fixed. I followed the guide I have a vs955 I did all the steps to the point they said it would take 20 minutes to boot so go to fastboot and flash bootbackup.img so i did that then it rebooted and i got the static thing but it seemed to boot I did not at this point know that if you turn off the screen and cover the prox sensor the screen will come back. so I read that flashing instead boot2.img will fix this I did this and it loads fine but now wants the secure password and everytime it reboots it drops a chance, im at chance 7 now so I have pulled the battery till I get information. I can not get into twrp via the software reset command with hardware buttons it just reboots the phone again. I can use flastboot, that is it. I am aware this issue is due to the data needing formatted in twrp again correct? Should I reflash bootbackup.img and then do the prox trick when at lock screen or what?
Thanks for your time.
EDIT: I forgot I had looked into this before hand and forgot and now feel dumb but I started this on 12a so I can just KDZ with LGup and Uppercut to 12a again right and just try again or stay stock?
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Oh, I thought it was because I was running AOSP! I have this bad!
Aside from some on the secondary display a few months back, I haven't noticed any on my n918. Had it since February this year.
Try lcd & amoled-test on the play store and read the comments for using the app. Amazingly, it did fixed my retention and side ghosting on the color gray.
I have been using the phone in comfort view from day 1 and it's been ok so far!
My V20 has severe screen retention. I am always always on auto brightness or manually low.
I just played a game with a checkered background, went to browse the web and i could still clearly see it. That was just the most noticable. It happens with everything.
Just curious what everyone sets their brightness at?
I have had mine since September 8th 2017. So far I haven't noticed anything yet .............yet. (Knock on wood) ...ehhh. And I use my phone quite heavily. But I keep my screen between 21% and 30% ...(mostly stick to 25%. It works great, as long as I'm at home). (Edit - I forgot to add that I've had Comfort View enabled on it's lowest setting since about a month after I bought it. It helps with eye strain some...not sure about image retention tho).
It's obvious that higher brightness levels cause image retention faster. Try to knock down your brightness a little bit.
This issue isn't isolated to LG devices. I have noticed this on a couple other phones..and even lcd tv's. Our old Olevia tv does it. I notice it as im dragging images and windows around. Faint outlines of things "stick" for awhile. At least it's not like my Samsung S4. That thing has actual BURN-IN. There's no getting rid of that. Retention at least goes away in time.
I've been using the sfilter app on my V20 and two V10s. Opacity at just 5% on black color takes care of the image retention.
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gustav30 said:
I've been using the sfilter app on my V20 and two V10s. Opacity at just 5% on black color takes care of the image retention.
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I was reading in the play store that sfilter won't work on the V20's navbar even though the setting for it is on. Other things I caught sight of were sfilter randomly force closing multiple times per day causing the screen to quickly become bright (or brightness flickering at random).
I only mention it because there were quite a few of them (reports of issues). Seems it's not been updated since June.

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