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Yes, its true, HTC is officially abandoning the windows platform!
What next?
SOURCE:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/18/htc_new_strategy/
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=64741
UPDATE:
Sources are confirming the adoption of the linux platform or symbian platform. Its most probably not going to take massive shape this year, but by next year we will see a significant change.
^^ Sources
register article is referring to smartphone platform only! maybe pda platform will remain with MS...
ItalianTytan said:
register article is referring to smartphone platform only! maybe pda platform will remain with MS...
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"smartphone" is generally used also for devices with touchscreen...
I think HTC is afraid of MS doing again what they have done with the media players business: they used other hardware vendors to create market perception and later they went for their own product (Zune) with a different DRM and left the "PlaysForSure" clan with cold feet.
Now that Apple has its own branded phone Microsoft will have to have a MS branded phone soon and that could mean bye bye to HTC and the other vendors, so better jump ship before it's too late.
This announcement could also be only a warning to MS; at the moment HTC is practically the only company in the world that could throw a blow at Microsoft: without HTC the MS market share in smartphones would fall to a level of insignificance and they would have to rebuild their mobile phone market share from scratch.
Btw, is there any other OS than wm6 that we can port into right now like linux or something, I really love trying stuff like this out. Is there any way to put s60 v3 or even linux onto my trinity?
AkshayGenius said:
Btw, is there any other OS than wm6 that we can port into right now like linux or something, I really love trying stuff like this out. Is there any way to put s60 v3 or even linux onto my trinity?
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There's a Linux kernel out there somewhere - iPaQ 3900 was the last device I saw it working on eons ago...
AkshayGenius,
check Hermes forum, haret supports Trinity and semi-bootable kernel exists.
Doesn't boot completely on Hermes or Trinity so far.
hope some good UI os will come out soon!
i really dont wanna buy iphone..... unless HTC can come out better UI os...
anonimo said:
"smartphone" is generally used also for devices with touchscreen...
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Not really, in terms of Windows Mobile devices and WM5, you had the Pocket PC and Smartphone edition, the latter of which is on devices without touch screen e.g. HTC Meteor, Canary, Tanager etc.
I don't know if you mean "generally" as in all devices that are smartphonish on the market - you've got a lot that's not touch screen there too e.g. N95.
El_Mariachi said:
Not really, in terms of Windows Mobile devices and WM5, you had the Pocket PC and Smartphone edition, the latter of which is on devices without touch screen e.g. HTC Meteor, Canary, Tanager etc.
I don't know if you mean "generally" as in all devices that are smartphonish on the market - you've got a lot that's not touch screen there too e.g. N95.
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With "generally" I mean what you read in market researches. When you read about the Symbian market share that includes both S60 (no touchscreen) and UIQ (touchscreen) phones. Same goes for Windows Mobile.
The term "smartphone" was not invented by microsoft (did they ever invent anything? ) and it means "phone where you can install and use third party software beyond java applets" as opposed to "feature phone" where you can only use what is preinstalled in the phone (and only add Java applets).
So can anybody make an OS which I for ex can put on my p3600 for ex.
AkshayGenius said:
Yes, its true, HTC is officially abandoning the windows platform!
What next?
SOURCE:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/18/htc_new_strategy/
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=64741
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HTC has the best position in the market because of the Windows line. When they abandone the Windows platform, they give their market share to HP for example.
HTC also knows that Microsoft integrates everything from Office, Exchange, VOIP, Sharepoint to Live, etc.
Saying one thing and do some expirements with Linux, puts the pressure on Microsoft for nice deals (cheaper OS) for more HTC profit.
I haven't looked for other sources, but, a reading of the article hardly supports the assertion that HTC is "officially abandoning" WM. I mean, the ONLY quote just says they're "looking at" other OS's.
Talk about exaggeration.
i hope they turn to Linux, any exp coder will know that M$ is a piece of **** when it comes to resources, so look forward to faster, more stable phones. On the down side is the lack of app's supporting linux, but that said, the moment it becomes a reality, I'm there....
qubit76 said:
i hope they turn to Linux, any exp coder will know that M$ is a piece of **** when it comes to resources, so look forward to faster, more stable phones. On the down side is the lack of app's supporting linux, but that said, the moment it becomes a reality, I'm there....
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Indeed so! BSD is now a reality on the iPhone - the mind boggles at how the market could look in 12 months. Mind you, I still prefer my Trinity to the iPhone but am particularly peeved that HTC haven't seen fit to officlally release WM6 for it.
LOL
WHY dont they contract with Ubuntu? make something like ubuntu mobile ??
LOL
than Iphone is ****ed.
qubit76 said:
i hope they turn to Linux, any exp coder will know that M$ is a piece of **** when it comes to resources, so look forward to faster, more stable phones. On the down side is the lack of app's supporting linux, but that said, the moment it becomes a reality, I'm there....
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If HTC would evolve a bit and embrace the 3rd party app model present on the iPhone, enhance it a bit and add support for fetching data from hardware components like gps modules, not like java, but something like Adobe® AIR™ for mobile devices with offline capabilities, that would be great foe everybody, most of the apps we use are for improving/replacing the poorly designed windows mobile apps&interface, other can be fully replaced by web apps, codewallet for example, imagine it with offline and online modes, sync between both, and you have your passwords accessible on any device or desktop, multimedia editing is also possible using flash and server-side code, like picnik.com, so, it would be necessary to create new apps, but this new model would be far better than the current one, it would also eliminate the need for manual app updating, it would... heh, make cracking impossible, so, good for the devs for that and also for the easier&cheaper development(VS not needed, html+css+flash+javascript+rails[heh ]), it would also give HTC the freedom to create a sleek GUI(compiz and stuff?) since its easier to replace the linux gui than wmobile, no licensing fees from ms i think.
ericlin0122 said:
LOL
WHY dont they contract with Ubuntu? make something like ubuntu mobile ??
LOL
than Iphone is ****ed.
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Ha Ha Haaaa... I like that
Lets all bombard the ubuntu guyz with emails demanding a mobile version of ubuntu for ppc and all then finally we'll get what we want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEA!
ericlin0122 said:
LOL
WHY dont they contract with Ubuntu? make something like ubuntu mobile ??
LOL
than Iphone is ****ed.
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Funny you should say that. Have a look at this: http://www.wired.com/software/coolapps/news/2007/07/iphoney. In the article it mentions just this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded.
So Ubuntu mobile coming in October. As soon as a good GPS navigation software release for Ubuntu comes out - I'm trying it.
http://gizmodo.com/5066402/download-the-android-source-code-right-now
http://source.android.com
Excellent: Now to port it to my KS20
Yeahh!
Now we can try get it working on my diamond
greets doena
Now we can try getting it to work on our Titans, Diamonds, Touch Pros....
4 Door Skyline said:
Now we can try getting it to work on our Titans, Diamonds, Touch Pros....
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I wonder where they will get the linux drivers for the Touch Pro hardware from?
It would be great if we could run Linux and switch to Windows mobile if neccessary to take advantage of all those programs out there.
Somebody recently hacked the iPhone and was able to select whether to run iphone OS or Windows Mobile at bootup. This sounds like a good idea but I don't know if it is possible.
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I wonder where they will get the linux drivers for the Touch Pro hardware from?
It would be great if we could run Linux and switch to Windows mobile if neccessary to take advantage of all those programs out there.
Somebody recently hacked the iPhone and was able to select whether to run iphone OS or Windows Mobile at bootup. This sounds like a good idea but I don't know if it is possible.
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that was a hoax, but it will be interesting to see if android can run on my phone! i have no idea about the driver database... but its supposed to be 2.something gigs and the os will be around... 60 megs?...
woo hoo.. it's android time.
bump......
iphone running wm? haha they got me with that one for a sec to i just couldn't beleive it and then i found out it was a hoax hahaha.....
yay android time...... we may have it out before the release in its full power yet
I'm SOOO excited about this!!!
Lack of Exchange breaks the deal for me.
I can't live without Exchange. It is totally engrained in my life. I was thinking of going the other direction. Since it is basically a Diamond Pro running Linux. What's to keep us from installing WM6.1. $176 is one hell of a price for a Diamond Pro.
mr.incredible said:
I can't live without Exchange. It is totally engrained in my life. I was thinking of going the other direction. Since it is basically a Diamond Pro running Linux. What's to keep us from installing WM6.1. $176 is one hell of a price for a Diamond Pro.
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actually I read somewhere that an exchange app was already up in the android market...
So basically the phones with most ram should be better for complete MOD of OS right? My finger tips are itching to get my hands on Touch Pro, are there any other US phones that might be ideal for an Android overhaul?
I've been watching closely. There is only oneway support for calendars.
Excuse me, but I've been searching for a while in the web AND in the XDA forums and I didn't find anything about putting Google's Android on Artemis.
Is there anyone working on this?
What exactly are the needs to run it on Artemis? Is it even possible?
I read a lot about the QTopia project...Is there a problem on GSM network on Android too?
Also, Google's Android was already ported to Vogue...Is that good news for us, users of Artemis?
I know it's a lot of questions, but I'm urging to run Android on my Artemis...
thanks a lot to whoever answers this!
also interessting for me !!!!
its such a great os,that we could use with our phones.
all the people try to work on manilla 2d but nobody interessted in android?
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Too bad no one is up to help us out....
It would be particularly interesting to see it working...
why nobody answer???
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What is the advantage of having Android on your phone?
The advantage would be all the advantages of using the Android...
Like free apps, good stuff AND no more windows mobile...LOL
I have tried many different versions of andriod that i have found at the forum, but I have just succed to boot up to the red dot moving, but after some minutes it stops and I have to remove the battery and put it back to restart my Artemis
//Drakfisken
so you mean its should develop better to use it? sorry for my english
Dunno what need to be done to get it working
//Drakfisken
Dijinn said:
The advantage would be all the advantages of using the Android...
Like free apps, good stuff AND no more windows mobile...LOL
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I have free apps, good stuff and Linux on my P3300, I don't need android. Why not buy a G1 then? Better screen, keyboard and more power.
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don't do this please...
advantage of having linux is not having windoze
we'll have to wait a bit,but windows will hopefully be overcame
Depends on the price manufacturers pay for WinMo licenses, if the price is high enough they might change to Linux in the future. Same thing has happend with servers.
On desktop computers it's still not very popular because it's difficult to use for beginners, demands too much to know. But on mobile phones it could be a lot easier since they do very little compared to full sized computers.
On the other hand, I'd still prefer WinMo devices since it's a lot easier to install apps. I don't want to open a console on my mobile just to install an application.
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Depends on the price manufacturers pay for WinMo licenses, if the price is high enough they might change to Linux in the future. Same thing has happend with servers.
On desktop computers it's still not very popular because it's difficult to use for beginners, demands too much to know. But on mobile phones it could be a lot easier since they do very little compared to full sized computers.
On the other hand, I'd still prefer WinMo devices since it's a lot easier to install apps. I don't want to open a console on my mobile just to install an application.
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hehe yeah stick out the terminal and sudo apt
but there are also synaptic package managers...which are GREAT
i'd prefer that linux being as close to WM as it can (to have a real pc in pocket) unlike android which is closer to the iphone and has limited functionality (at least for now)
why simple if it can go complicated
Registerme said:
I have free apps, good stuff and Linux on my P3300, I don't need android. Why not buy a G1 then? Better screen, keyboard and more power.
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What linux are you using in your Artemis? Wherte can i download it? It´s full functional?
The Qtopia Version, don't remember the link but it's in the forum. Didn't use it for some time now since it's not fully working (phone, bluetooth,...).
Registerme said:
The Qtopia Version, don't remember the link but it's in the forum. Didn't use it for some time now since it's not fully working (phone, bluetooth,...).
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Yeah... Qtopia i already used. But since there is no functional phone operation, i quit using it.
Is there another version full functional with Artemis, or some kind of Deadline to realease a new version of Qtopia?
Hi all,
I 2 am wondering if it's possible to run android on my artemis. I would love to get rid of WM.
Any news on this front since last post in feb 2009?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393973&page=10
doesnt work properly yet.
takes 20 mins or so to boot and crashes
health, I will be breaking down here because I do not know english: D
My question is if it would somehow go to the Windows Mobile 7 on Touch 2.
if there is somewhere I'm sorry I'm a beginner: D
If you're asking if the touch 2 will be able to run windows phone 7 OS then almost certainly not, sorry
The real question is, would you want to? apart from being nice to look at, WP7 is very limited.
Not almost certanly, its 100 000 % sure
I know, I was being a little too kind.
Like I said, for me, the negatives outweigh the positives when it comes to wp7, only the new ui is improved. and the xbox live integration.
Keep in mind guys that you can not run any existing application on WM7 (change of operating system)....requires new development of all software.....
Not sure if I want WM7.....untill enough freeware is available.....
WindCZ said:
health, I will be breaking down here because I do not know english: D
My question is if it would somehow go to the Windows Mobile 7 on Touch 2.
if there is somewhere I'm sorry I'm a beginner: D
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WM7 is not out as of now, so you won't find ANY device with WM7 AFAIK.
As far as running WM7 on Touch2 ... well unless it is released - who can say? I have seen some great things in this forum - which I never thought was possible.
So, may be you should wait in anticipation.. it just might .
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WM7 is not out as of now, so you won't find ANY device with WM7 AFAIK.
As far as running WM7 on Touch2 ... well unless it is released - who can say? I have seen some great things in this forum - which I never thought was possible.
So, may be you should wait in anticipation.. it just might .
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Maybe you are right and we judge too early......but based on what Microsoft has announced sofar it is not very encouraging. And the many software operating developments by the various phone manufacturers shows the innovation weakness of microsoft.
Also the XDA community has shown that they can turn microsoft software into something workable.....and there is no reason why this can not be done with WM7.....
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Maybe you are right and we judge too early......but based on what Microsoft has announced sofar it is not very encouraging. And the many software operating developments by the various phone manufacturers shows the innovation weakness of microsoft.
Also the XDA community has shown that they can turn microsoft software into something workable.....and there is no reason why this can not be done with WM7.....
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Yeah! M$ is only to make Dollars . Thats why I trust xda more than M$ or even HTC .
If it was to M$, I would have never been able to run WM 6.5 on my Vox .
So, let us keep our fingers crossed .
But when it comes to port another OS to the Touch2, won't be Windows Mobile 7 easier than Android ?
Hello All,
I have almost a brand new device that working just fine, I want to know if there is anyway to use this device again ?
Not as a windows phone device of course but is there any upgrade/convert can be done to the device to make it usable again ? even as a entertainment device not a functional phone.
Thanks in advance
Appreciated
MohamedYousri said:
Appreciated
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As always, a big thank you to the WOA project.
Guides - Lumia WOA Project
Full Windows Desktop for Lumia
woa-project.github.io
is there any android project for it ?
There is, but its only private build. I also wanted to install it...
wojtekojtek said:
There is, but its only private build. I also wanted to install it...
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Install android on Lumia 950 XL?
Is this possible? Will it be possible? I tried googling for a bit and didnt really come up with any hits so that kinda leads me to believe that as of now its not possible but how about in the future? I am new to the Windows mobile "scene"...
forum.xda-developers.com
ze7zez said:
Install android on Lumia 950 XL?
Is this possible? Will it be possible? I tried googling for a bit and didnt really come up with any hits so that kinda leads me to believe that as of now its not possible but how about in the future? I am new to the Windows mobile "scene"...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Check here:
You can install Android 12 on a Microsoft Lumia 950 XL (but you probably don't want to... yet) - Liliputing
You can install Android 12 on a Microsoft Lumia 950 XL (but you probably don't want to... yet)
liliputing.com
wojtekojtek said:
Check here:
You can install Android 12 on a Microsoft Lumia 950 XL (but you probably don't want to... yet) - Liliputing
You can install Android 12 on a Microsoft Lumia 950 XL (but you probably don't want to... yet)
liliputing.com
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I put Windows 11 on my test Lumia and found out how useless it is. I don't want to think what massacre Android is doing on this hardware.
ze7zez said:
I put Windows 11 on my test Lumia and found out how useless it is. I don't want to think what massacre Android is doing on this hardware.
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yeah Windows 11 is cool
but a year ago I broke the motherboard
I bought another
but when i installed windows 11 it just hung for 30 seconds and restarted :/