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It turns out that the recently circulating hulu-capable hacked version can and does play back at full 30fps in 720p on the Transformer. Success!
This lead me to question why it would work though. I downloaded this hacked version (Google search it, I won't link it here) and also downloaded the original 10.3.185.22 version it is based on (it's about 2 months old). Testing the hacked version and I do indeed get hardware accelerated 720p. I disassembled them to figure out what was changed between the hacked and the official version and the only change is one line in the Flash Player library that reports to the browser what version of flash is running (Sort of like a UA string hack for Flash). This isn't enough to disable hardware acceleration though, and guess what: strangely enough, I also get hardware acceleration on the non-hacked version as well. Crazy that!
So, the tl;dnr version: For some reason, the latest Flash Player does not accelerate 720p video. I still don't know why. An older version (10.3.185.22) DOES accelerate Flash and can be used to fix this nagging problem. Download it here:
http://www.filesonic.com/file/1037676654
OR HERE:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10724980/Flash.Player.10.3.185.22.Android.apk
To install:
First remove any installed version of flash (go to market -> my apps -> Flash Player -> uninstall)
Copy the downloaded .APK to your device and run. No root required, but you will need to turn on non-market app installs.
Before testing, reboot into recovery and wipe cache. (The whole point is to wipe the browser cache - People report that this helps. If you like, you can just go to settings -> applications -> manage applications -> All -> Browser -> Wipe Cache)
Test playback on 720p stream or use http://www.youtube.com/my_speed and look at what the 'video fps' tells you
EDIT: You may have to run this in the STOCK BROWSER. Opera calls the Froyo version of the library which does not allow for hardware accelerated playback.
Some other notes:
The youtube test video still reports software decoding - this is normal, it's looking for the PC HW accel module, which Android does not have.
Some people are still have trouble making this work. I'll admit, it's sort of like voodoo - I've torn through the files in the .APK and the only file that is changed in the old version is a compiled library that I can't (legally) decode. Without source code, I still can't tell you why it works for some but not for others.
Apparently some people never had problems in the first place. Congratulations - we don't need to hear about it here. Unless you know why it works for you and not for others, don't add to the length of this thread.
It's not the latest version, but nothing significant has been added since this one, and at least it works right!
sassafras
It Works!
Here is the link where I got my flash: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076612
About damn time!
xTRICKYxx said:
Here is the link where I got my flash: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076612
About damn time!
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This version is the modified 10.3.185.22 version that is NO DIFFERENT than the official .22 version except for the modification one line that tells the browser it is a Windows based version of flash instead of Android.
If you install this version of Flash, hardware acceleration works but you cannot update via the Market (even though it tell you that you have an update) because it will fail every time.
The official version I linked will not play Hulu but does update via the market and at least for now, seems to retain hardware acceleration.
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xTRICKYxx said:
Here is the link where I got my flash: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076612
About damn time!
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Installed this, still getting ****ty framerate on youtube test.
Gary13579 said:
Installed this, still getting ****ty framerate on youtube test.
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Strange.
Gary, can you ADB to your device?
If so, can you
Code:
adb uninstall com.adobe.flashplayer
And then try installing this. Note that it does take a few seconds for the video framerates to stabilize due to some inherent WiFi flakiness in the ASUS drivers.
sassafras
I don't have access to adb atm, but I figured uninstalling Flash through the GUI rather than adb would have the same effect (and I did uninstall Flash before installing that version). I also tried restarting the browser, cycling opengl on/off, and rebooting the entire device.
After the intro, it still falls to 3-5 FPS on youtube.com/my_speed on 720p.
just uninstall the hacked version then install market version and the ability to play 720p at 30 fps seems to persist.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
Gary13579 said:
I don't have access to adb atm, but I figured uninstalling Flash through the GUI rather than adb would have the same effect (and I did uninstall Flash before installing that version). I also tried restarting the browser, cycling opengl on/off, and rebooting the entire device.
After the intro, it still falls to 3-5 FPS on youtube.com/my_speed on 720p.
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To be honest, it really makes little sense why it works. The old version works and the new version works when updated via the market (though it shouldn't because it overwrites everything) so honestly, I can't really troubleshoot to any degree.
My advice would be to just nuke anything in the /data/data/com.adobe.flashplayer location, then install my linked version. Install that, update via the market (You might have to reboot or use Titanium Backup to get it to attach to the market) and see if it works. There is no good reason why it didn't work in the first place, and there is even less why it works now. It's like a ghost in the machine.
sassafras
sassafras_ said:
It turns out that the recently circulating hulu-capable hacked version can and does play back at full 30fps in 720p on the Transformer. Success!
This lead me to question why it would work though. I downloaded this hacked version (Google search it, I won't link it here) and also downloaded the original 10.3.185.22 version it is based on (it's about 2 months old). Testing the hacked version and I do indeed get hardware accelerated 720p. I disassembled them to figure out what was changed between the hacked and the official version and the only change is one line in the Flash Player library that reports to the browser what version of flash is running (Sort of like a UA string hack for Flash). This isn't enough to disable hardware acceleration though, and guess what: strangely enough, I also get hardware acceleration on the non-hacked version as well. Crazy that!
So, the tl;dnr version: For some reason, the latest Flash Player does not accelerate 720p video. I still don't know why. An older version (10.3.185.22) DOES accelerate Flash and can be used to fix this nagging problem. Download it here:
http://www.filesonic.com/file/1037676654
OR HERE:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10724980/Fla...22.Android.apk
To install, first remove any installed version of flash (go to market -> my apps -> Flash Player -> uninstall) then copy to your device and run. No root required, but you will need to turn on non-market app installs.
It's not the latest version, but nothing significant has been added since this one, and at least it works right!
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Works great! Haven't tried updating to the lastest verson through market though. Yet, it's still not as smooth as my GS2, don't know if it's the limitation of Terga2.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
hongkongtom said:
Works great! Haven't tried updating to the lastest verson through market though. Yet, it's still not as smooth as my GS2, don't know if it's the limitation of Terga2.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
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It's not a limitation of the Tegra as much as it is a limitation of the screen size. With a larger screen you have more pixels to push and that strains the hardware when it's not designed for it. Unfortunately, the Tegra GPU wasn't ever really designed for tablet resolutions - but it works and they use it - it's just not going to match the only 480x800 display (in the SGS2) in terms of fluidness.
sassafras
Gary13579 said:
I don't have access to adb atm, but I figured uninstalling Flash through the GUI rather than adb would have the same effect (and I did uninstall Flash before installing that version). I also tried restarting the browser, cycling opengl on/off, and rebooting the entire device.
After the intro, it still falls to 3-5 FPS on youtube.com/my_speed on 720p.
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I have a similar issue. I uninstalled via settings/applications and then used terminal to verify that /data/data/com.adobe.flashplayer did not exist.
I get about 6 fps. I even tethered to my phone to get a faster download because my DSL speed was too slow to keep up.
I have stock 3.1 rooted.
Yeah, it's becoming clear to me that this is not an exact science. There isn't actually any reason why it shouldn't hardware accelerate on the market version when it does on the hacked (or just plain old) version.
Note that the youtube.com/my_speed video does report two frame rates, one titled "stage fps" and one "video fps" - it's that second one that is reporting the true decode speed. Also, if you're seeing spinning dots in the middle, that's your internet too slow to keep up, not your device.
If you're having no luck with the official .22 point release I linked, try using the hacked version linked in the second post and see if that changes anything.
sassafras
okay installed this flash (hulu verison) and now opera 11 shows that flash is not install...anyone else having this issue?
I tried the linked version as well- not sure what is different but it does have a different checksum.
Perhaps I have to actually watch a hulu video first?
--- I poked around at some of the methods and the ones that flash via clockwork mod also install some libs- perhaps that this the other piece of the puzzle? It's bedtime here, so 30 fps will have to wait until later...
After uninstalling the newest version and installing the .22 modified one I am getting 30fps and little dropped frames in the speed test on the stock browser. Unfortunately Opera is still showing around 10fps.
gee one said:
I tried the linked version as well- not sure what is different but it does have a different checksum.
Perhaps I have to actually watch a hulu video first?
--- I poked around at some of the methods and the ones that flash via clockwork mod also install some libs- perhaps that this the other piece of the puzzle? It's bedtime here, so 30 fps will have to wait until later...
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I've explained this in detail in the OP but basically the .apk just installs the libraries to it's personal /data/data/ directory and the browser is able to dynamically load them from there. There is no need to install additional libraries because all four of the shared libraries flash requires are installed by installing the .apk.
Adkinson said:
After uninstalling the newest version and installing the .22 modified one I am getting 30fps and little dropped frames in the speed test on the stock browser. Unfortunately Opera is still showing around 10fps.
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Yes, unfortunately, Opera loads the libstagefright_froyo.so instead of the libstagefright_honeycomb.so which is the required library for hardware accelerated playback. I'll mention this in the OP.
sassafras
Could you fix the OP to include a proper dropbox link? It isn't possible to use fileserve on the TF.
http://imgur.com/5BujJ
Fastest I've managed. And that's a rlatively static image. Even slower when not overclocking. Please post what ROM, kernel, CPU speed etc you guys are using.
Gary13579 said:
Could you fix the OP to include a proper dropbox link? It isn't possible to use fileserve on the TF.
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All better.
Are you by chance using a non-stock browser?
sassafras
God no, they're all worses than stock browser in my opinion. At least unil OnLive releases theirs!
Think I figured it out, the link in post #2 is bad. After using the APK posted in the other thread, it works great. Fired up Big Buck Bunny on YouTube and i was as smooth as could be. Thanks .
I have downloaded the XDA omni rom for A500:
Freshly built Android 4.4.2 ROM based on Omnirom KitKat !
"The Team 'IconiaHD' is proud to present a new ROM for your Acer A500 or A501 tablet.
This small team is composed of:
- HenrikE: A200 owner, responsible for an unofficial CM-10.2 build for the A200
- Doume: A200 owner, experienced linux developer
- macia10: A501 owner, tester"
The omni rom installs easily using TWRP ver 2.7 by Thor. Once I followed the OP recommendations all stages in the installation were clear. The rom runs well after the second and third boot. I even used ART. Here is my take so far: rom is fast and smooth. Browsers load pages fast, even high image content sites (CNN). Videos on youtube work flawlessly, wifi signal is very strong. I was able to load all my apps and have them run well. A very nice and responsive rom on the acer a500. Google play store works right off the bat. A few minor issues though: google music play app has a bit of chopping of the music playback. Netflix did not work for me as the app would force closed on me. I tried the netflixfix as recommended by the OP but it did not work either ( I am waiting for the next fix as suggested by the OP). Other than those two minor issues I can't wait to try the updated versions of this omni rom as it adds a new life to this acer a500. I am very happy to see that there are developers who continue to get value for us by implementing optimized roms on the a500. Thank you for your great work.:good::good::good::good:
D.
Anyone running this on the N7100?
deryckmeister said:
I have downloaded the XDA omni rom for A500:
Freshly built Android 4.4.2 ROM based on Omnirom KitKat !
"The Team 'IconiaHD' is proud to present a new ROM for your Acer A500 or A501 tablet.
This small team is composed of:
- HenrikE: A200 owner, responsible for an unofficial CM-10.2 build for the A200
- Doume: A200 owner, experienced linux developer
- macia10: A501 owner, tester"
The omni rom installs easily using TWRP ver 2.7 by Thor. Once I followed the OP recommendations all stages in the installation were clear. The rom runs well after the second and third boot. I even used ART. Here is my take so far: rom is fast and smooth. Browsers load pages fast, even high image content sites (CNN). Videos on youtube work flawlessly, wifi signal is very strong. I was able to load all my apps and have them run well. A very nice and responsive rom on the acer a500. Google play store works right off the bat. A few minor issues though: google music play app has a bit of chopping of the music playback. Netflix did not work for me as the app would force closed on me. I tried the netflixfix as recommended by the OP but it did not work either ( I am waiting for the next fix as suggested by the OP). Other than those two minor issues I can't wait to try the updated versions of this omni rom as it adds a new life to this acer a500. I am very happy to see that there are developers who continue to get value for us by implementing optimized roms on the a500. Thank you for your great work.:good::good::good::good:
D.
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I'm filing a report with the moderators to put this into device-specific forums, as you're issuing a report against an unofficial build that, to my knowledge, no one involved with the bringup has attempted to get merged officially. (I'll check with the merge guys tonight on that...)
Entropy512 said:
I'm filing a report with the moderators to put this into device-specific forums, as you're issuing a report against an unofficial build that, to my knowledge, no one involved with the bringup has attempted to get merged officially. (I'll check with the merge guys tonight on that...)
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Thanks for directing me to the right forum.
Sent from my A500 using XDA Free mobile app
Further Update on XDA OMNI for Acer a500 (unofficial)
I have been running this rom for the past few weeks. Here is what I have noticed. I hope that this will help further the development of the rom. I am attaching the logcat information.
a). Recent update from Google Play Music fixed the audio glitches I was having before.
b). Chrome Browser runs well has problems playing videos, causes browser FC (flash issue?). Lightening Browser works well.
c). Occasional window change results in zoomed icons in the apps section.
d). Netflix still FCs.
e). Network Location works on my Acer A500.
f). Youtube works without any issues.
D.
deryckmeister said:
I have been running this rom for the past few weeks. Here is what I have noticed. I hope that this will help further the development of the rom. I am attaching the logcat information.
a). Recent update from Google Play Music fixed the audio glitches I was having before.
b). Chrome Browser runs well has problems playing videos, causes browser FC (flash issue?). Lightening Browser works well.
c). Occasional window change results in zoomed icons in the apps section.
d). Netflix still FCs.
e). Network Location works on my Acer A500.
f). Youtube works without any issues.
D.
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Thanks for the report! Interesting that network location works for you. It seems to work sometimes and sometimes not, would be nice to figure out why..
The latest versions of netflix don't work, even with the fix applied. Try version 3.1.2 instead: http://gsmandroidapps.com/download-netflix-3-1-2-build-1142-apk/
I haven't seen the problem with zoomed icons, does it happen often?
HenrikE said:
Thanks for the report! Interesting that network location works for you. It seems to work sometimes and sometimes not, would be nice to figure out why..
The latest versions of netflix don't work, even with the fix applied. Try version 3.1.2 instead:
I haven't seen the problem with zoomed icons, does it happen often?
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You're welcome. The Netflix 3-1-2 build works after installing and subsequently rebooting! Thank you. The zoomed icons happens infrequently and occurs only when I go into the apps windows from the home screen. It seems to be more of a lag issue when switching windows. I installed Apex launcher and the lag has decreased significantly. In addition, the zoomed icons are no longer present.... so far. I have decided to use Dalvik runtime as the Art function is not compatible with some of my apps.
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omni rom for acer A501 by HenriKe
I have tried to flash this ROM several times andi keep having issues. I am on Acer 501.
Op still says to use the 4-27 build for 501 as the 4-29 build has issues.
Issues I have at multiple force reboots. (Kernel panics). Also if data is enabled then WiFi will not connect. I know I should have saved the last_kmsg but just sipped and restored previous ROM.
Still waiting for the fixed 501 version to be posted.
As stated here = http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52709444&postcount=109
Some tweaks that make this Rom smooth.
I would like to suggest the following tweaks that will make your experience with this rom smoother. Make sure you have a complete backup of your a500 current system. Use these at your own risk.
Before installing rom:
1. Wipe cache, wipe Dalvik cache, "real format" data (very important).
Installation:
2. Install rom, install mini-gapps, install super user
3. Boot up rom. Set up Wifi, Set up Google play services.
4. Reboot.
5. Make a complete back of your new omni rom.
Tweaking:
6. Use "interactive"; "sio", "set on boot"
7. Set cpu to max to 1200 Mhz and min to 456 Mhz
8. Reboot
9. Install Nova or ADW launcher. Have at least 3 screen windows . Set look and field to “faster than light” (Nova)
10. Install "prop builder" editor
11. Edit the prop file as follows (see attached image):
dalvik.vm.heapmaxfree
12m
dalvik.vm.heapstartsize
12m
12. Reboot.
13. Run a benchmark app and compare. I got an Antutu score of 9036 (see attached image) up from 7700. Overall system is more responsive.
14. If all goes well, make another backup with a different name.
Good Luck and enjoy.
deryckmeister said:
I would like to suggest the following tweaks that will make your experience with this rom smoother. Make sure you have a complete backup of your a500 current system. Use these at your own risk.
Before installing rom:
1. Wipe cache, wipe Dalvik cache, "real format" data (very important).
Installation:
2. Install rom, install mini-gapps, install super user
3. Boot up rom. Set up Wifi, Set up Google play services.
4. Reboot.
5. Make a complete back of your new omni rom.
Tweaking:
6. Use "interactive"; "sio", "set on boot"
7. Set cpu to max to 1200 Mhz and min to 456 Mhz
8. Reboot
9. Install Nova or ADW launcher. Have at least 3 screen windows . Set look and field to “faster than light” (Nova)
10. Install "prop builder" editor
11. Edit the prop file as follows:
dalvik.vm.heapsize
12m
dalvik.vm.heapsize
12m
12. Reboot.
13. Run a benchmark app and compare. I got an Antutu score of 9036 up from 7700. Overall system is more responsive.
14. If all goes well, make another backup with a different name.
Good Luck and enjoy.
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I think you have a typo. dalvik.vm.heapsize cannot be set to 12m or it won't boot. Maybe you mean from 384mb to 128mb ?
darkguy2008 said:
I think you have a typo. dalvik.vm.heapsize cannot be set to 12m or it won't boot. Maybe you mean from 384mb to 128mb ?
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Thanks for the feedback. I made the corrections and edited my previous post to reflect what the attached image of the buildprop file shows.
dalvik.vm.heapmaxfree
12m
dalvik.vm.heapstartsize
12m
Regards,
D.
Problem waking up
Hi,
I installed this ROM, and everything seems to be working well, expect waking the device from sleep.
It sometimes happens, after the tablet is not used for a while and is sleeping, that the power led is on (white), but the screen is black. If you try to wake the device by pushing the power button, nothing seems to happen. The only option is to power it down by holding the power button, and powering up again. Very annoying!
The device is not docked and not connected to mains power.
I disabled daydreaming, and it seems to happen less frequently, but not 100% sure.
I suspect it has something to do with the tab waking up by itself to do some syncing, and somehow getting stuck.
Any ideas?
How can I try to debug this?
Any help appreciated!
You have the infamous Sleep of Death (SOD). It is/was a common problem with certain a500 motherboards. I don't have the SOD issues.
You should contact the XDA iconia HD development team at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2705989
I am still a junior member and I don't have privilege to post on their blog, yet.
You may try these (make a back up of you current omni rom first):
1. Ensure that the wifi is kept on during sleep. Go to Advanced settings in the wifi options. Click on check box to set scanning always available.
2. Edit the buildprop file to set the wifi_supplicant_scan_interval to 0 sec.
Cons... decrease in battery life. May not be a significant amount.
If the above settings don't work for you, check the links below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1704870
http://www.kylejorgensen.com/2012/08/acer-iconia-a500-sleep-of-death-and-how.html
All the best.
the_unlord said:
Hi,
I installed this ROM, and everything seems to be working well, expect waking the device from sleep.
It sometimes happens, after the tablet is not used for a while and is sleeping, that the power led is on (white), but the screen is black. If you try to wake the device by pushing the power button, nothing seems to happen. The only option is to power it down by holding the power button, and powering up again. Very annoying!
The device is not docked and not connected to mains power.
I disabled daydreaming, and it seems to happen less frequently, but not 100% sure.
I suspect it has something to do with the tab waking up by itself to do some syncing, and somehow getting stuck.
Any ideas?
How can I try to debug this?
Any help appreciated!
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Thanks for the advice.
I'm also still junior, so I can't post there either
I never had any SOD issues before, not with the stock ICS and the 3 other ROMs I tried before.
Putting scanning always available didn't solve it, but haven't tried the buildprop yet.
Problem is that is is very intermittent: sometimes the tab runs for about 3 days without hanging, then it happens within the hour...
the_unlord said:
Thanks for the advice.
I'm also still junior, so I can't post there either
I never had any SOD issues before, not with the stock ICS and the 3 other ROMs I tried before.
Putting scanning always available didn't solve it, but haven't tried the buildprop yet.
Problem is that is is very intermittent: sometimes the tab runs for about 3 days without hanging, then it happens within the hour...
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The Iconia Team HD just posted an update for their ROM. You may try that one and see how it goes. Another developer also posted another a500 omni ROM version 4.4.4. light. Try both and see which one works best for you.
D.
deryckmeister said:
The Iconia Team HD just posted an update for their ROM. You may try that one and see how it goes. Another developer also posted another a500 omni ROM version 4.4.4. light. Try both and see which one works best for you.
D.
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Updating to 4.4.4 seems to have helped: haven't had the SoD issue since!
the_unlord said:
Updating to 4.4.4 seems to have helped: haven't had the SoD issue since!
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Awesome. I noticed also that sometimes the screen does not come on with one single press of the power button (most of the times it does) when the Acer a500 is asleep. Sometimes, you just have to watch the power button and press until the white light comes on and the screen comes alive (there is no reboot, it just takes you back to the lock screen). I use to think that it was an sod but all is well.
D.
deryckmeister said:
Awesome. I noticed also that sometimes the screen does not come on with one single press of the power button (most of the times it does) when the Acer a500 is asleep. Sometimes, you just have to watch the power button and press until the white light comes on and the screen comes alive (there is no reboot, it just takes you back to the lock screen). I use to think that it was an sod but all is well.
D.
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I'm seeing the same thing: the tab won't come alive and I think "****, an SoD again", so I press long to force a power off, and after a few seconds, the screen comes alive! Weird...
For the rest: awesome ROM, much better than the previous one I tried (don't remember exactly which one it was)!
deryckmeister said:
I would like to suggest the following tweaks that will make your experience with this rom smoother. Make sure you have a complete backup of your a500 current system. Use these at your own risk.
Before installing rom:
1. Wipe cache, wipe Dalvik cache, "real format" data (very important).
Installation:
2. Install rom, install mini-gapps, install super user
3. Boot up rom. Set up Wifi, Set up Google play services.
4. Reboot.
5. Make a complete back of your new omni rom.
Tweaking:
6. Use "interactive"; "sio", "set on boot"
7. Set cpu to max to 1200 Mhz and min to 456 Mhz
8. Reboot
9. Install Nova or ADW launcher. Have at least 3 screen windows . Set look and field to “faster than light” (Nova)
10. Install "prop builder" editor
11. Edit the prop file as follows (see attached image):
dalvik.vm.heapmaxfree
12m
dalvik.vm.heapstartsize
12m
12. Reboot.
13. Run a benchmark app and compare. I got an Antutu score of 9036 (see attached image) up from 7700. Overall system is more responsive.
14. If all goes well, make another backup with a different name.
Good Luck and enjoy.
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Just had my recovered A500 setup as you mentioned... Yes, it's running OK.
However, AnTuTu (v 5.7.1) just keep failing...after it ran up to around 75-76 %. What ver. of AnTutu are your running (since I notice your screen looks slightly different from mine)?
I found this ROM to be the most stable ROMS available for the A500.
Very scarce info everywhere, but quite a few people already use this $80 super-powerful watch including me (which is basically a micro-smartphone).
Many video reviews already.
I personally think that such powerful watch (much more powerful than my cheap 2016 tablet on previous Mediatek chip with less RAM) is a such small smartphone with illusion like it’s watch made by very modified version of Circle launcher with edited Android 6. I don’t see any limitations on this watch to run full stock Android OS here from the M6737M series smartphones, if ported. Even now all full-featured apps from Google store made for smartphones are perfectly runs here, including very big navigation apps and even the full “battery saver” function present from smartphones (first one which I see on Android watch ever). The only limitation which I noticed is very small display (specific apps cannot fit) and badly edited Android OS (like completely deleted status bar from OS, any 3rd-party status bar apps are installing fine but crashing on settings). Most 3rd-party launchers from Google store and open sources are installing here (only with few exceptions) - the most stable one I’ve found is open source “Essential Launcher” ver. 1.3.
My feeling from “lift wrist turn on” function with “swipe pages” makes almost iPhone X experience here, no any buttons needed, very stable power on only by view and swiping windows (including closing them by swiping to the right) makes very good feedback to the user.
Everything spoiled only by edited OS - awful work with fonts, too many illogical Menu lists, deleted functions like not present “Storage” in OS settings(only shortcut to file explorer) - the USB storage media not adding because of edits on OS level, considering normal micro-USB & even if you turn on “usb media” in developer settings.
Very few watch-faces with no way to install any others, it’s obviously fake feature to make you feel and use them as watch.
So, what I think many would be glad to see here - the root is the most important goal for now(developer menu allows bootloader unlock-not sure if it’s true because USB media settings there not works), maybe putting the normal Android is the next goal.
The root is very needed to firewall for very shady apps here, it’s very powerful device so it have full smartphone spyware, like notorious MTK Logger & Thermal Manager, which can work at sleep mode (it is almost suspicious that they broke USB media function so user can’t bypass network connection for installs). Root needed to work with display resolution and etc.
Edit: the processor by Aida app recognized as MT6737M but on Aliexpress you can find watch easily by search term processor "MTK6737M" (only like 7 sellers total).
I have the H5 as well, and you're correct! The main draw back is the stripped down OS, for example the call forwarding features are missing..
Ordered one of these a few weeks ago, should be getting delivery soon. Interesting to see how it performs, my last android watches have been mt6572 & mt6580, both of these I ported full Android versions to, I may give it a go at porting a full Android version to this in the future
Check this also:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sm...dorid-6-0-finow-q1-pro-smartwatch-4g-t3745271
Well I got mine today, seems good so far. As for alternative launchers tried a few that work OK, if you want to change the clockskins for now I have found that Universal Launcher New Gen works just fine (you add clockskin folder +clockskins)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ricktop.ClockSkinCoco
I use mine at least 2 weeks maybe. Without root (which I plan to do but don't have time right now) I do not connect them to any Internet, so I'm using them as just watch (it's my first smartwatch). Files I'm sending through bluetooth from my Android phone, quite neat that you can install apps from bluetooth menu right away.
About battery - very good, if you don't connect them to networks at all, with battery Saver on & "wrist move activation" off they can work whole week on 1 charge (this includes some extensive using in 2 days on winter street with GPS apps, camera-video, constant time checking and etc.). They CAN HOLD MORE days, after the full charge, watch calculated the battery to the 15 days of work - which is believable, as I see now if you will check only time manually they can easily save 1 charge to 12-13 days. I use charger with them only once at week, it's quite shocking to read Apple Watch forums where people making that every 2-3 days.
They're quite powerful - making the zip archive internally from 250Mb photos/videos takes something like 2 minutes.
Because the step-counter here work always (even if you take them to the other room) - this device is just made for the SmartNavi (open source navigation app which use mainly step-counter with rare or no GPS connection for battery saving).
Can't wait for a custom recovery to be made for it, so I can root it. Tried all the rooting apps out on the web and none work so far.
Well I have managed to get Root access, using Magisk, and flashing patched boot image, struggling to create a TWRP recovery. Hoping someone out there can come up with a custom recovery.
Managed to port TWRP to it, but it is in miniature! going to have a play around with it to see if I can make it usable. Anyone with suggestions be grateful - well gave up on trying to amend TWRP resolution, and installed flashify - just flashed an AOSP ROM to the H5, happy days!
Well done stevea76
A step by step or point in the right directions kinda 'guide' would be really appreciated, cos the H5 with its stock funos is far from fun... sure its usable but no fun.
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Well done stevea76
A step by step or point in the right directions kinda 'guide' would be really appreciated, cos the H5 with its stock funos is far from fun... sure its usable but no fun.
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I will put something together at the weekend, by then I should have something usable, don't want people breaking their new toys!
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I will put something together at the weekend, by then I should have something usable, don't want people breaking their new toys!
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It would be interesting to find if there's any "recovery mode" on stock ROM image at all, considering that there's only 1 button. On similar watches from Samsung and etc they have quite awkward way to enter recovery - like some swipe to the left in time of logo showing and etc. I tried to repeat any swiping during boot - nothing...
Also, by the usual use of watch (almost a month now) I can say that in my case of use the battery holding 1 full charge for 7 days, so a week, the same amount calculated by OS also. That's the battery regime or mode which is now constant in my case (it can be different in situation of other people).
The battery here can be saved even more for a week - I managed to notice that "sleep stat" function are working here at all times and cannot be turned off like step counter in this Android OS, at the night time it randomly turning on the pulse checker light even if you not wearing them, which using the battery (not a big deal, but using some).
Wizard2004 said:
Well done stevea76
A step by step or point in the right directions kinda 'guide' would be really appreciated, cos the H5 with its stock funos is far from fun... sure its usable but no fun.
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Here is the link to the AOSP ROM I ported to the H5.
I must express it is a long winded way to flash it as I am not technically minded, just playing at it, and only do this if you have the stock ROM downloaded as a backup to revert back to and don't mind the possibility of wrecking your toy!, the only reason for me doing it this way is that the recovery TWRP I ported is functional, but not set for the screen size for the H5 so unless you have bionic eyes it is nearly impossible to use, hence the reason for my 'workaround' (note: If anyone can make the TWRP scaled for the watch, just flash the ROM in the usual way)
Here is a 'sort of' guide and link to files.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=252561
1. Flash
Microwear_Magisk_Patched_Boot_IMG using splash tool, reboot device.
2. Install Magisk Manager from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445/page4
Open Magisk manager and go to settings, set default action to 'Grant'
You now have root.
3. Flash
Microwear_H5_Recovery_TWRP using spflashtool.
4. Install
Flashify (for root users) from the Playstore.
5. Download directly to the watch (or to Computer and transfer to the watch) Microwear_H5_AOSP ROM AND the GAPPS of your choice (Open Gapps arm64 nano was my choice)
6. Use Flashify to install zip(s) making sure you click TWRP as recovery option and also tick the wipe cache, data etc (add the Gapps as well if you want Google)
Click Reboot on flashify.
Hopefully the watch boots to recovery and installs the ROM and gapps!
First boot sticks on boot animation, so if not starting after 3 or 4 minutes power off the watch and reboot, after another 5 to 10 minutes you should see 'android is starting'
Nav Bar is by default on permanently, to make this and notification bar 'hide' (fully Immersive) I used this method.
1. install on pc ADB (Guide below)
2. Enable developer options and USB debugging on watch.
3. connect watch (switched on)
4. Open ADB on pc.
5. Type: adb devices (click enter)
(should see you device is connected)
6. Then type: adb shell - (click enter)
7. Then type this line:
settings put global policy_control immersive.full=*
Now the navigation bar will pop up when you pull down or up slightly on the screen and will auto hide after a couple of seconds.
As for sensors I don't think any are working.
I have included 3 launchers on this ROM, so make your choice!
Please, please, please DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS if you don't know how to revert back to stock rom. I bear no responsibility for broken toys!
Guys, who already have a scatter file for this watch, i really want to make a backup of current ROM before checking for any new updates (which is quite good version from January and there's nowhere on Internet any firmware files for this watch, so saving and sharing ROM is important). If i manage to download ROM i will post it on Google drive.
I wanted to force watch go into it's own recovery but my ADB installation don't see this watch connected - there's a primitive subsystem on watch beside Android OS, it can be seen when you turn Android OS "power off" and connect USB for charging - it will show the battery, i'm puzzled how to enter into any settings of that subsystem.
The stock firmware is on the Microwear Website.
http://m.microweartech.com/en/MicrowearFirmware.html
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The stock firmware is on the Microwear Website.
http://m.microweartech.com/en/MicrowearFirmware.html
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Yeah, i noticed only now, strangely but i remember that a month ago there was nothing about H5 model on their site when i searched…maybe because they just released it.
Also the firmware have the same scatter file - the first one which i found myself for some cheap smartphone on 6737 chip, as i remember i found it on reddit.
As i seen no updates of firmware for now.
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Yeah, i noticed only now, strangely but i remember that a month ago there was nothing about H5 model on their site when i searched…maybe because they just released it.
Also the firmware have the same scatter file - the first one which i found myself for some cheap smartphone on 6737 chip, as i remember i found it on reddit.
As i seen no updates of firmware for now.
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No updates as yet. I have ported an AOSP version, pretty much stock Android to the H5, it is basic, but I like the 'stock experience' on a square watch. Not got the sensors set up, but not really bothered about how many steps I have done on any given day or my heart rate for that matter.
Also if you want fancy clockskins then Eric's launcher works just fine on it.
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No updates as yet. I have ported an AOSP version, pretty much stock Android to the H5, it is basic, but I like the 'stock experience' on a square watch. Not got the sensors set up, but not really bothered about how many steps I have done on any given day or my heart rate for that matter.
Also if you want fancy clockskins then Eric's launcher works just fine on it.
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As i understand correctly - here they simulated or just copied clock skins from Apple watch?
Where to find Eric launcher?
For everyone else i will write again link to the firmware from Microwear site here – https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1WaktAl-cjCTE1l0jffA7BnevzESdlCwc?usp=sharing
because chinese support is very short in time and can vanish with website very easily (for example to find an older firmwares to my Onyx Boox ereader i used "webarchive" service, thanks gods we have it - only from this saved archived copies of pages i found the sharing links to the older firmwares, still i cannot find the first version of RemixOS release for KitKat-if anyone have the alpha - please message me)
Eric's launcher is here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ricktop.ClockSkinCoco
All about the clockskins mainly for round Full Android watches here:
https://plus.google.com/communities/109827242607524552712
For square Full Android Watches here:
https://plus.google.com/communities/118413074291213420811
A useful forum for Full Android watches (round) with guides how to install custom watch faces:
http://roundandroidwatches.proboards.com
I recently purchased this tablet + dock from goodwill and I am really liking it.
The first thing I did was root the device then I started trying the different roms available here and my favorite has been Katkiss 6.0.3 because it has been very stable (without google). I mainly use it for light web browsing, youtube videos (through newpipe) my favorite, emulators!
I was just wondering does anyone still use the tablet? If so, what for?
I still use it, it's a good tablet.
Sorry for my bad English.
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I recently purchased this tablet + dock from goodwill and I am really liking it.
The first thing I did was root the device then I started trying the different roms available here and my favorite has been Katkiss 6.0.3 because it has been very stable (without google). I mainly use it for light web browsing, youtube videos (through newpipe) my favorite, emulators!
I was just wondering does anyone still use the tablet? If so, what for?
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Yeah, I recently dug it out the draw when I decided to look at kindles for reading. Then realised I had a perfectly good tabled with an extra power pack in the form of keyboard dock. So, I am as we speak flashing KatKiss 6.0.0.34 onto it. But discovered not to install gapps, because play store seems to force the tablet into a boot loop. So its just a case of downloading aps via browser or another app altogether. The only annoyance is the keyboard layout isn't the same. The @ is where the " should be & same for #. But I think that's a settings issue maybe!
OK, just to fill anyone in in case they want to know. I have tried Katkiss 4.4.4 & gapps caused problems + it was slow & some apps I wanted wouldn't work correctly due to the age of the android version.
Katkiss 6.01 is brilliant if you don't install gapps, with it, its a cluster****.
I've just installed KatKiss 5.1.1 with gapps & it appears to be stable. A tad slow at times but once you've installed all the apps you need, the speed improves.
However, I discovered if you flash 5.1.1 with gapps at the same time, it just wont work. But if you flash 5.1.1 with the Super User file first, reboot into the OS. Then shut down & load back into twrp & flash only gapps, it loads & optimises the apps as well. It feels much quicker than gapps in 6.01 & 4.4.4. Its been running for about an hour & no random reboots yet.
I do stress, before you flash, do an advance wipe of all the top 5 directories, then a format. Reboot into twrp & then install, if you don't, it causes issue's.
Its not amazing, but it allows me to use facebook, youtube & brows the news when I'm in Costa enjoying a hot drink, which beats my S10E all day long.
No gapps is definitely the way to go. I have been using it for 2 months and I haven't gotten a bootloop. I have noticed that the wifi can act a little funny at times though. Have you guys experienced this?
Actually got it working again with Katkiss 6 thnx to this great guide
https://forum.xda-developers.com/eee-pad-transformer/development/guide-t3932101
Chrome v49 works fine aswell but browsing can be a vit slow
Still using mine but without Google Apps.
Don't need them on this tablet so it's still good.
Right now I'm using it as a media center for Netflix, Plex, etc.
Anyone knows if we can install magisk on katkiss 6? Hbo won't work because of root.
jesuita said:
Still using mine but without Google Apps.
Don't need them on this tablet so it's still good.
Right now I'm using it as a media center for Netflix, Plex, etc.
Anyone knows if we can install magisk on katkiss 6? Hbo won't work because of root.
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I'd like to use this Tf101 Katkiss as a media player but it will not play 720p or above smoothly.
What apps do you use?
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I'd like to use this Tf101 Katkiss as a media player but it will not play 720p or above smoothly.
What apps do you use?
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Netflix works, it render the possible resolution for the tablet.
For plex I have it configured to transcode to 480p.
Now and them I use VLC, again 480p only.
jesuita said:
Netflix works, it render the possible resolution for the tablet.
For plex I have it configured to transcode to 480p.
Now and them I use VLC, again 480p only.
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That's not going to work for my needs as I wanted to be able to plug in a USB stick with Mkv's...
Also most streaming apps are 720p and above.
Shame
You could probably try to overclock the cpu.
Anyway, this tablet as 10 years... We shoul not expect miracles.
How do we overclock this tab?
Looking to give away TF101 dock
Hello,
I really benefited from this forum and was able to root my device after I bought it lightly used in 2011 or 2012 and used it until 2017 or so. As far as I can tell, my TF101 dock still charges and holds a charge. Since the tablet itself doesn't start, I cannot test any more whether the dock is working. I do not have the original packaging.
I noticed that the TF101 tablet screen was starting to go out and that I had to be very careful about setting the right level of illumination of the screen lest it go to black suddenly and I would have to reboot it to see the screen again. The tablet suddenly died and I put it away to try to fix on a rainy day. That day didn't happen, but I'd gladly donate the tablet as well for parts.
So I am looking to mail the dock, an off-brand charger that plugs directly into an outlet, and, if someone would like it, the dead tablet which may have some useful parts.
No one is selling the device on Swappa as far as I know.
If you are interested, send me a message or direct me to the right forum in which I can "give back" to the XDA community by donating this appropriately. I can e-waste the tablet itself in my area if its parts would not be useful to anyone on this forum.
All the best,
Ireadthemanual
buddie024 said:
I recently purchased this tablet + dock from goodwill and I am really liking it.
The first thing I did was root the device then I started trying the different roms available here and my favorite has been Katkiss 6.0.3 because it has been very stable (without google). I mainly use it for light web browsing, youtube videos (through newpipe) my favorite, emulators!
I was just wondering does anyone still use the tablet? If so, what for?
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How do you install a custom recovery on TF101?
VsUK said:
Yeah, I recently dug it out the draw when I decided to look at kindles for reading. Then realised I had a perfectly good tabled with an extra power pack in the form of keyboard dock. So, I am as we speak flashing KatKiss 6.0.0.34 onto it. But discovered not to install gapps, because play store seems to force the tablet into a boot loop. So its just a case of downloading aps via browser or another app altogether. The only annoyance is the keyboard layout isn't the same. The @ is where the " should be & same for #. But I think that's a settings issue maybe!
OK, just to fill anyone in in case they want to know. I have tried Katkiss 4.4.4 & gapps caused problems + it was slow & some apps I wanted wouldn't work correctly due to the age of the android version.
Katkiss 6.01 is brilliant if you don't install gapps, with it, its a cluster****.
I've just installed KatKiss 5.1.1 with gapps & it appears to be stable. A tad slow at times but once you've installed all the apps you need, the speed improves.
However, I discovered if you flash 5.1.1 with gapps at the same time, it just wont work. But if you flash 5.1.1 with the Super User file first, reboot into the OS. Then shut down & load back into twrp & flash only gapps, it loads & optimises the apps as well. It feels much quicker than gapps in 6.01 & 4.4.4. Its been running for about an hour & no random reboots yet.
I do stress, before you flash, do an advance wipe of all the top 5 directories, then a format. Reboot into twrp & then install, if you don't, it causes issue's.
Its not amazing, but it allows me to use facebook, youtube & brows the news when I'm in Costa enjoying a hot drink, which beats my S10E all day long.
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I have tried and tried to flash that ROM onto this tablet, and no luck at all.
The fact is, I can't install a custom recovery, because every time I try to download the TWRP recovery it downloads twrp.blob, instead of twrp.img, can you give me any suggestions?
How did you do it?
Hey guys, I was able to use Katkiss Rom 6.0.34 with Play Store on 19-05-2020, the guide here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82614765&postcount=1468
Isaac Brumby said:
I have tried and tried to flash that ROM onto this tablet, and no luck at all.
The fact is, I can't install a custom recovery, because every time I try to download the TWRP recovery it downloads twrp.blob, instead of twrp.img, can you give me any suggestions?
How did you do it?
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Use this 1 click tool, run the .bat file and follow the instructions. Do this on the stock firmware and you will get TWRP as well as SuperUser root. After that you can flash all you want.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78478898&postcount=625
javidben said:
Use this 1 click tool, run the .bat file and follow the instructions. Do this on the stock firmware and you will get TWRP as well as SuperUser root. After that you can flash all you want.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78478898&postcount=625
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Thank you for this!
I will try as soon as possible.
Postmarketos
Just linking postmarketos os for those who want to try it.
Just google Postmarketos tf101
* I'm trying to install it right now
oink666 said:
Just linking postmarketos os for those who want to try it.
Just google Postmarketos tf101
* I'm trying to install it right now
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I wrote a complete guide about it here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/eee-pad-transformer/general/native-linux-asus-eee-pad-transformer-t4157685
aat596 said:
I wrote a complete guide about it here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/eee-pad-transformer/general/native-linux-asus-eee-pad-transformer-t4157685
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awesome ! I'll try it again and report on the thread !
just resurrected mine and put the revolution ics image on when it was running katkiss and having issue trying to find apps that will work with it. playstore is pretty much dead as not much on there that works. The plan was to run it as a CCTV monitor
I feel like I've tried everything to make this thing work, but every time I use it it locks up almost immediately (as in screen freezes, takes 15 seconds to register touches, sometimes not at all, won't load apps). Right now I'm on SHIELD software version 4.1 (Android 6.0.1) and I just want to use it as a glorified web browser, but it can't even do that. I've tried factory resets, reflashes, tips on the NVIDIA forums... is there any way to identify what slows my tablet down and prevent it? Even on a fresh install its laggy/borderline unusable.
Yep it's a real P.O.S.
It never really was any good.
I fired it up a while ago, fresh factory reset, and still couldn't even hardly browse the internet.
I'm on los14 and it's fine for me. I use the smallest gapps and I also remove the apps I don't use in /system...everything I use works and I don't have any problems with it.
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I feel like I've tried everything to make this thing work, but every time I use it it locks up almost immediately (as in screen freezes, takes 15 seconds to register touches, sometimes not at all, won't load apps). Right now I'm on SHIELD software version 4.1 (Android 6.0.1) and I just want to use it as a glorified web browser, but it can't even do that. I've tried factory resets, reflashes, tips on the NVIDIA forums... is there any way to identify what slows my tablet down and prevent it? Even on a fresh install its laggy/borderline unusable.
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I have been on the same quest as you. Lineage 14.1 was the answer for me for a long time. However, today I have found something even better. I have also tested EVERYTHING so when I say its good, its good. ASOP 5.8 with NANO GAPPS is a smoker! Even when typing there is no hesitation. Everything is quick quick. I downloaded the version with z-ram. I don't know how much that helps. I have used z-ram in other ROMs and it didn't seam to help. So, I would say its just user preference. I have not tested the regular 5.8 yet so try the z-ram one. I think you will love it as much as I do. There is only one bug. It is with NVIDIA Games. It gives you an error that it stopped running. All you have to do is update it in the playstore and it will stop saying that. I hope this helps!
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I have been on the same quest as you. Lineage 14.1 was the answer for me for a long time. However, today I have found something even better. I have also tested EVERYTHING so when I say its good, its good. ASOP 5.8 with NANO GAPPS is a smoker! Even when typing there is no hesitation. Everything is quick quick. I downloaded the version with z-ram. I don't know how much that helps. I have used z-ram in other ROMs and it didn't seam to help. So, I would say its just user preference. I have not tested the regular 5.8 yet so try the z-ram one. I think you will love it as much as I do. There is only one bug. It is with NVIDIA Games. It gives you an error that it stopped running. All you have to do is update it in the playstore and it will stop saying that. I hope this helps!
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Hey man can you pm me the link. I have Lineage 14.1 but the battery just drains too fast.
bigroc2223 said:
I have been on the same quest as you. Lineage 14.1 was the answer for me for a long time. However, today I have found something even better. I have also tested EVERYTHING so when I say its good, its good. ASOP 5.8 with NANO GAPPS is a smoker! Even when typing there is no hesitation. Everything is quick quick. I downloaded the version with z-ram. I don't know how much that helps. I have used z-ram in other ROMs and it didn't seam to help. So, I would say its just user preference. I have not tested the regular 5.8 yet so try the z-ram one. I think you will love it as much as I do. There is only one bug. It is with NVIDIA Games. It gives you an error that it stopped running. All you have to do is update it in the playstore and it will stop saying that. I hope this helps!
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Hey man, do you think you could PM me the link to this ROM you speak of? I can't seem to find one that's good enough for my needs.
Thanks in advance.
bigroc2223 said:
I have been on the same quest as you. Lineage 14.1 was the answer for me for a long time. However, today I have found something even better. I have also tested EVERYTHING so when I say its good, its good. ASOP 5.8 with NANO GAPPS is a smoker! Even when typing there is no hesitation. Everything is quick quick. I downloaded the version with z-ram. I don't know how much that helps. I have used z-ram in other ROMs and it didn't seam to help. So, I would say its just user preference. I have not tested the regular 5.8 yet so try the z-ram one. I think you will love it as much as I do. There is only one bug. It is with NVIDIA Games. It gives you an error that it stopped running. All you have to do is update it in the playstore and it will stop saying that. I hope this helps!
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Do you mind sending me the link as well
bigroc2223 said:
I have been on the same quest as you. Lineage 14.1 was the answer for me for a long time. However, today I have found something even better. I have also tested EVERYTHING so when I say its good, its good. AOSP 5.8 with NANO GAPPS is a smoker!
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Thank for your review! Just to be sure: are you talking about AOSPExtended? The one in the thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sh...-aosp-extended-aex-5-8-nvidia-shield-t4053745 ?
Hi. I am selling my Shield Tablet + Controller.
Would come inkl. the recalled from nvidia which i resoldered the Battery. I didnt write that in ebay because i didnt want to get banned because of the recall.
just ebay : Nvidia-Shield-Tablet-and-Controller-2016
I where thinking on selling mine as well... But honestly, will it worth selling?
How much do you ask for the tablet and controller combo?
Well, after disabling doze and the srgb mode, and making sure all programs were updated and that I had plenty of free space (>1GB of ram with nothing open and >1.5GB of disk)... I must say I'm pretty satisfied again with the device.
I don't even see anymore that stupid constant >50% IOW activity inside top.
(if you are going to game I guess tinerking with background process limits could also help)
I use it as a remove monitoring panel and home automation tablet. Outside of that, unfortunatly, was suppose to be a big tablet for gaming, but it'S way too lagy for that
nodiaque said:
I use it as a remove monitoring panel and home automation tablet. Outside of that, unfortunatly, was suppose to be a big tablet for gaming, but it'S way too lagy for that
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I've spent lot's of time with both the tablets and Shield portable and I can say that in 2021 , these are still "daily drivers " for me . The trick with these devices is understanding that a lot of the Google apps and permissions have gotten very resource heavy over the years. That is why the K1 had such horrible battery life , there was so much stuff running in addition to providing a top level gaming experience at the time . These devices are "very " capable of gaming and still very much worth it if they are set up correctly. If you read through the older XDA threads you will find out a lot of stuff people people did over the years to speed up / optimize these devices . Both my tablet and portable are on stock roms and just by disabling all the unnecessary notifications , removing resource heavy apps (ADB) and some other simple tweaks , these run exactly the way the developer reviewers said they performed years ago . I actually prefer to play some games on my tablet / portable ( especially game stream ) because the sound and over all gaming experience still holds up incredibly well.
bigroc2223 said:
I have been on the same quest as you. Lineage 14.1 was the answer for me for a long time. However, today I have found something even better. I have also tested EVERYTHING so when I say its good, its good. ASOP 5.8 with NANO GAPPS is a smoker! Even when typing there is no hesitation. Everything is quick quick. I downloaded the version with z-ram. I don't know how much that helps. I have used z-ram in other ROMs and it didn't seam to help. So, I would say its just user preference. I have not tested the regular 5.8 yet so try the z-ram one. I think you will love it as much as I do. There is only one bug. It is with NVIDIA Games. It gives you an error that it stopped running. All you have to do is update it in the playstore and it will stop saying that. I hope this helps!
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Thanks a lot for your suggestion! I installed in my original nVidia Shield Tablet (no K1) and works like a charm! It's like having a new tablet again!
_benedict_ said:
Thank for your review! Just to be sure: are you talking about AOSPExtended? The one in the thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sh...-aosp-extended-aex-5-8-nvidia-shield-t4053745 ?
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Also thank you for the link so I could easily find what @bigroc2223 was actually talking about!
Just in case there's somebody else who wants to try to install AOSP Extended 5.8, just a warning:
Do NOT download the latest version of OpenGApps (20220215 as of today). For some reason, installing this version makes the tablet unusable, since right after booting it bombards you with an infinite stream of error messages about Google Services having being stopped, and no matter how many times you try to close those error windows, lots and lots more re-appear, blocking the user interface so you can't do anything at all.
So I went back to an older version (20220110) and this one doesn't have that problem. I did get an error message about nVidia Games not working, but that's normal, and it's just a single error message, not millions, as with the other newer version of OpenGApps, which made the tablet completely unusable. After updating nVidia Games from the Play Store, the error is gone, as @bigroc2223 explained. And even after updating all apps to their latest versions, the tablet still works fine, so I'm not sure what happened with the 20220215 version of OpenGApps.
Here's the link to the version of OpenGApps that worked for me:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/opengapps/files/arm/20220110/open_gapps-arm-8.1-nano-20220110.zip/download
Just in case you need some instructions on how to install the ROM (I certainly needed them), you can follow these, only installing the AOSP Extended (AEX) 5.8 ROM instead of the LineageOS ROM:
Nvidia Shield Tablet (shieldtablet) - LineageOS ROMs
LineageOs ROM Nvidia Shield Tablet (shieldtablet) Unofficial roms Download last UNOFFICIAL build (2019-11-13)LineageOS 15.1 – [ Android 8.1 (Oreo) ] Previous version (UNOFFICIAL) (2019-11-15) LineageOS 14.1 – [ Android 7.1.2 (Nougat) ] Table of contents Install LineageOS on shieldtablet Basic...
lineageosroms.com
BTW, I used the version of the AEX 5.8 ROM with Zram (additional cache), and it works fine. You also have to install the DTB file after installing the ROM and the GApps, but the DTB file is installed from the "fastboot" state instead of from the "sideload" feature of TWRP.
Thank you for everybody helping in this thread!