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Does anyone know if T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S2 work with wifi calling feature?
SGS2 Hercules is too new, it's not even on sale yet for another week
i doubt people can answer you until next next week
I am going to assume yes, because all of the new t-mobile phones have it, BUT it doesn't mention it in the features on the t-mobile site.
Moved
I just got my SGS2 for Tmobile today. I'm coming from a mytouch 4g and use the wifi calling app every now and then.
at the moment, I do not see any icon for wifi calling on the SGS2. one came by default on the mytouch 4g. but not on this.
I was assured in the store that this feature was supported. but i'm not sure how if I don't have the tmobile app installed on the phone and can't find it on the market.
No wifi calling support and wifi hotspot NOT FREE!!!
Just got the SGS2 Wednesday...
There is no Wifi calling app and no support for it currently. I even tried installing the kineto apk from my G2X and it would install no problem, but then immediately FCs every time. Some t-mo forums I read support.t-mobile.com /message/42893#42893 state that there will be an app in a future update to enable this. But, it says the phone will IMS-based (as opposed to UMA or GAN). From what I understand, the Wifi calling app is free and does not deduct your plan minutes if you call to enable this feature and have the rep set it up this way. AND, if your phone supports calling over UMA! So, this really sucks! I get spotty reception in my house and chose a lower rate plan all with the expectation that this end-all be-all phone would obviously support this.
Also, don't be fooled by the Wifi Hotspot app the phone comes with. It would appear to work correctly without a hitch, but then nothing connects through it. I finally realized that when connected every page you attempt to visit on the tethered computer points to offers.t-mobile.com /tethering/upsell.do
Are you freaking kidding??? Again, aren't we buying this amazing phone and paying a premium for it because it can do anything???
Anybody else find this? Any official word from t-mo that this was all just a big mistake?
PS-Sorry, I had to split the urls above into two parts, I didn't realize you couldn't post outside urls for the first eight messages.
jsnarbogast said:
Just got the SGS2 Wednesday...
There is no Wifi calling app and no support for it currently. I even tried installing the kineto apk from my G2X and it would install no problem, but then immediately FCs every time. Some t-mo forums I read support.t-mobile.com /message/42893#42893 state that there will be an app in a future update to enable this. But, it says the phone will IMS-based (as opposed to UMA or GAN). From what I understand, the Wifi calling app is free and does not deduct your plan minutes if you call to enable this feature and have the rep set it up this way. AND, if your phone supports calling over UMA! So, this really sucks! I get spotty reception in my house and chose a lower rate plan all with the expectation that this end-all be-all phone would obviously support this.
Also, don't be fooled by the Wifi Hotspot app the phone comes with. It would appear to work correctly without a hitch, but then nothing connects through it. I finally realized that when connected every page you attempt to visit on the tethered computer points to offers.t-mobile.com /tethering/upsell.do
Are you freaking kidding??? Again, aren't we buying this amazing phone and paying a premium for it because it can do anything???
Anybody else find this? Any official word from t-mo that this was all just a big mistake?
PS-Sorry, I had to split the urls above into two parts, I didn't realize you couldn't post outside urls for the first eight messages.
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I am with you. I use the wifi calling feature on a regular basis and I pissed that it doesnt have it. Its my fault I moved from the sensation to this and figured it would have it. I will wait for the update that hopefully comes soon.
Return the phone and cite the lack of WiFi calling/texting as the reason. If you just keep it and wait, they may assume you guys are all happy with what you got and never put it in the update... Pick your poison.
Can't be specific about changes obviously...as per soak instructions...but I can say for sure a certain feature we've all been missing has been restored to us. PM me if you want details.
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So.... It comes with root?
lol to beat me to it! :highfive:
Haha..I wish..but no
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Yay finally we get Lollipop
Again..I wish... But no
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Unlocked bands?
Most likely VoLTE...
Longer battery?!
It's VoLTE. Or, simultaneous Voice and Data as was missing from the device at launch with the promise to be fixed with an update by the end of the year.
I'm curious, though, if it counts towards your data allowance to use VoLTE. Does anyone know?
It doesn't count against your data plan according to the Verizon FAQ
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It's VoLTE. Or, simultaneous Voice and Data as was missing from the device at launch with the promise to be fixed with an update by the end of the year.
I'm curious, though, if it counts towards your data allowance to use VoLTE. Does anyone know?
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Voice no, video yes.
It's disappointing that the update is (apparently) only/mainly VoLTE, and not Android 5.0. Since carrier certification is a relatively slow, painful process, I think this is a sign that the Lollipop update is more than a couple months away.
I was initially excited about VoLTE, but I wasn't impressed with it when I used it briefly on my Droid Maxx. First, it wasn't reliable- I had dropped calls, and calls that never even rang my phone. Second, it killed my battery. It was rough- really rough- on it. I think both are related to the relatively weak LTE signal I have at home. To deal with the signal problems I have a Verizon network extender, but it looked like my phone was preferring the weak LTE signal over the strong signal from the network extender.
I wish Verizon would have just sucked it up and supported Wifi calling with Advanced Calling 1.0. I don't understand why they dislike Wifi calling so much. They're going to eventually support it, but the company's statements suggest they aren't happy about it. Who knows how much support there will be for it, though. Verizon apparently plans to release a LTE network extender at some point, which is only useful in certain niche situations if Wifi calling is broadly supported on VZW devices.
reggie14 said:
It's disappointing that the update is (apparently) only/mainly VoLTE, and not Android 5.0. Since carrier certification is a relatively slow, painful process, I think this is a sign that the Lollipop update is more than a couple months away.
I was initially excited about VoLTE, but I wasn't impressed with it when I used it briefly on my Droid Maxx. First, it wasn't reliable- I had dropped calls, and calls that never even rang my phone. Second, it killed my battery. It was rough- really rough- on it. I think both are related to the relatively weak LTE signal I have at home. To deal with the signal problems I have a Verizon network extender, but it looked like my phone was preferring the weak LTE signal over the strong signal from the network extender.
I wish Verizon would have just sucked it up and supported Wifi calling with Advanced Calling 1.0. I don't understand why they dislike Wifi calling so much. They're going to eventually support it, but the company's statements suggest they aren't happy about it. Who knows how much support there will be for it, though. Verizon apparently plans to release a LTE network extender at some point, which is only useful in certain niche situations if Wifi calling is broadly supported on VZW devices.
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Wifi calling is for carriers that need someone else's network to supplement their own shortcomings.
That is why they don't implement it.
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Wifi calling is for carriers that need someone else's network to supplement their own shortcomings.
That is why they don't implement it.
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So is it just a messaging problem? Verizon doesn't want to support wifi calling because it's an implicit admission that they don't have great coverage everywhere?
Generally, I agree VZW coverage is pretty good. But, it's not great at my house, and its terrible at my workplace. VZW already implicitly acknowledges that they don't have great coverage everywhere by selling network extenders. They're continuing that by coming out with LTE network extenders (someday).
It just seems like its a cheaper, better option to support wifi calling, rather than forcing people (with coverage problems) to shell out $200-300 for a network extender.
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Wifi calling is for carriers that need someone else's network to supplement their own shortcomings.
That is why they don't implement it.
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I still think every carrier should support this. I'm in IT, and constantly find myself in data centers, or even meeting rooms deep into a building that you couldn't even make an E-911 call from... It really wouldn't be that difficult. When TMob had UMA back in '08 and I had a BB, I used it extensively. It was never because TMobile didn't have enough coverage.. Carriers basically make money when you use their network. Yes, most people have unlimited plans these days, but they build their network around the use it has. So why wouldn't they want you to be using your phone, minutes, texts, etc? On the other hand, why wouldn't they want to offload congestion to networks they don't have to maintain or pay for? There just aren't any down sides to have WiFi calling/text/mms.
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I still think every carrier should support this. I'm in IT, and constantly find myself in data centers, or even meeting rooms deep into a building that you couldn't even make an E-911 call from... It really wouldn't be that difficult. When TMob had UMA back in '08 and I had a BB, I used it extensively. It was never because TMobile didn't have enough coverage.. Carriers basically make money when you use their network. Yes, most people have unlimited plans these days, but they build their network around the use it has. So why wouldn't they want you to be using your phone, minutes, texts, etc? On the other hand, why wouldn't they want to offload congestion to networks they don't have to maintain or pay for? There just aren't any down sides to have WiFi calling/text/mms.
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You can make calls through Hangouts if that helps ya.
allenrb2 said:
It doesn't count against your data plan according to the Verizon FAQ
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Any chance anyone who has the update can see if it fixes the shutter lag?
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Any chance anyone who has the update can see if it fixes the shutter lag?
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There is a definite improvement, IMO
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You can make calls through Hangouts if that helps ya.
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Can you? I mean, I knew you could, but it rides WiFi, and doesn't do the Google Voice thing where you still need cell service?
Do you regret getting a spark phone? I really hate the idea of losing simu voice and data. To those of you that used to multi tasking-do you miss that? Enough to want to switch back to a 2 band phone?
Sprints coverage map says I live in a perfect spark area, but they say that about 4g too and I get speeds of .55u, .65d 80p (last speed test). So I am nervous about trusting that-starting not to trust anything from Sprint. It just seems ridiculous to be the only us carrier not to support simu v/d. From what I have found voLte is not a priority. On Sprint community some reps are saying that they are "working on fixing spark to allow v/d" but is that like saying we are working to pay down the national debt (to quote another frustrated user). V/d on Wi-Fi is pointless to me- if I am at home I can use my house phone or my computer so I don't need both, but away from home is when I need simu v/d.
Not enough to switch back to my s4.
Yup I hate that u can't simultaneously talk and data on network
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Yup I hate that u can't simultaneously talk and data on network
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That is what I am really afraid of. I have a bed feeling I will regret it.
Ya it really sucks sprint made all new phones with sparks without even having it deployed all over the country wish these crappy sparks phone tech would have waited jnyell they could have figured out how to get volte working properly. The note4 easliy could have waited and not forced that crap sparks on us
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sliverr7x said:
Ya it really sucks sprint made all new phones with sparks without even having it deployed all over the country wish these crappy sparks phone tech would have waited intel they could have figured out how to get volte working properly. The note4 easliy could have waited and not forced that crap sparks on us
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Nope not at all. Very rarely do I find the non-simultaneous voice/data thing a problem. Besides this is a temporary thing until they get VoLTE going by 2016. Having spark and getting LTE in interior of buildings is well worth the trade-off.
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Besides this is a temporary thing until they get VoLTE going by 2016.
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The problem I see with that is-this is Sprint we are talking about here. More than likely they will have some backward 3rd world engineered system that gets delayed 2 years then when it gets half deployed they will realize they forgot to include an on switch or something, and end up scrapping the entire idea. I hate to plan on them doing anything when they say they will. Better off planning that it will always take them an entire contact period longer than what they expect.
I love the idea of better penetration I am just afraid of the wrong kind since we are dealing with Sprint lol.
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Nope not at all. Very rarely do I find the non-simultaneous voice/data thing a problem. Besides this is a temporary thing until they get VoLTE going by 2016. Having spark and getting LTE in interior of buildings is well worth the trade-off.
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Do have a link verifying that information?
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http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...th-domestic-and-international-volte-carriers/
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http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...th-domestic-and-international-volte-carriers/
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That is a really old article that has no backing from Sprint. Especially since Sprint has said it is not planning to do volte. Not to mention that according to the article we should expect it now and not in 2016. Sorry but that is just speculation. Granted even if it was an official Sprint release I would not hold my breath. I would love to see it, but I highly doubt it will happen in the next 2 years.
Where is your link proving somebody still in charge has said that? Anybody from Softbank? I don't think so. I'm sure you can get a s3 for cheap still these days lol. Then you can rid yourself of your distrust from your best frienemy sprint lol. Not that serious to me. http://telecoms.com/304831/sprint-to-take-its-time-over-volte/
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http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...th-domestic-and-international-volte-carriers/
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Old and dated information
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Where is your link proving somebody still in charge has said that? Anybody from Softbank? I don't think so. I'm sure you can get a s3 for cheap still these days lol. Then you can rid yourself of your distrust from your best frienemy sprint lol. Not that serious to me. http://telecoms.com/304831/sprint-to-take-its-time-over-volte/
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I am not trying to be argumentative here I am just trying to have realistic expectations. You are correct Sprint has not said that it will not ever do VoLte, but they have said it is not a priority, so it is more a matter of when. According to the second article “The reason you don’t see us rushing to VoLTE is because we’ve already got a strong HD Voice programme, and we’re rolling out a VoWifi product offering too. Over time, we’ll be evolving to VoLTE, but less aggressively because we’ve got a successful technology.” I take that to mean not anytime in the near future- maybe our 3-5year plan, no where do they say 2016 either.
They hopefully have figured out that this is much more of a big deal than they initially thought. Personally I take Sprints lack of talk about VoLTE to mean they are not worried about it much. They have to be worried about it but that does not mean that they will take action any time soon. Hey maybe they are planning a surprise gift for us and will boom one day have Volte ready for us overnight- but like I said I want to be realistic. Historically speaking Sprint has been the king of technical blunders.
It is not that I dis like Sprint or that I distrust them. I think that they are trying but they are such a organizational mess and never seem to actually have thought out their plans before they implement them. I have been with Sprint long enough to know that whatever the project or upgrade- it will inevitably take longer than they announce- without fail. I know enough to not plan my future on what Sprint says is coming- that will only lead to disappointment and anger.
Most people seem to complain about connection service or customer service. I love the voice coverage, data coverage and speeds have always been (and still are to be desired) they are much better than historically but in comparison the other networks do data much better. Customer service has never been a problem for me- phone reps are A+ in my books but then again I have always contacted employee care and not regular overseas CS. My CS experience w VZW was horrendous in comparison to Sprint. In store it is hit and miss- but since I rarely ever go to a store that is not an issue for me. They do need to work on consistency.
I already have a dual band s4 so I can do SVD, but I am trying to figure out if the idea of potentially "faster" data is worth losing SVD. Most phone calls end up with some SVD right now, so what I am going to try to do is resist doing it and see how pisd I get.
My biggest worry is GPS and SVD as well as streaming and calls. I know back in the day that I would stream hockey games and sometimes I would end that and have VMs piled up, other times using a hotspot my dad would get upset because he would get kicked off his connection when the phone rang. I never figured out why sometimes a call would interrupt the data connection and others it would not. It always seemed that if it was a nonstop stream - that the voice call would not interrupt the data call.
Heres the thing....when I first got the note 4 I was upset because I felt mislead due to the fact that nobody informed me of the no V/D situation but I can say that VOLTE is coming I work on cell towers building the infrastructure for sprint AT&T and Tmobile when I had my S2 I never really had true 4g. But then I got my s4 and it was worth the wait....be patient young grass hopper good things come to those who wait....and remember the sprint customer service will tell you.... if you really need voice and data at the same time just use wifi....I mean vome on its 2015 doesnt everyone have wifi enabled cars? Lmfao
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I am not trying to be argumentative here I am just trying to have realistic expectations. You are correct Sprint has not said that it will not ever do VoLte, but they have said it is not a priority, so it is more a matter of when. According to the second article “The reason you don’t see us rushing to VoLTE is because we’ve already got a strong HD Voice programme, and we’re rolling out a VoWifi product offering too. Over time, we’ll be evolving to VoLTE, but less aggressively because we’ve got a successful technology.” I take that to mean not anytime in the near future- maybe our 3-5year plan, no where do they say 2016 either.
They hopefully have figured out that this is much more of a big deal than they initially thought. Personally I take Sprints lack of talk about VoLTE to mean they are not worried about it much. They have to be worried about it but that does not mean that they will take action any time soon. Hey maybe they are planning a surprise gift for us and will boom one day have Volte ready for us overnight- but like I said I want to be realistic. Historically speaking Sprint has been the king of technical blunders.
It is not that I dis like Sprint or that I distrust them. I think that they are trying but they are such a organizational mess and never seem to actually have thought out their plans before they implement them. I have been with Sprint long enough to know that whatever the project or upgrade- it will inevitably take longer than they announce- without fail. I know enough to not plan my future on what Sprint says is coming- that will only lead to disappointment and anger.
Most people seem to complain about connection service or customer service. I love the voice coverage, data coverage and speeds have always been (and still are to be desired) they are much better than historically but in comparison the other networks do data much better. Customer service has never been a problem for me- phone reps are A+ in my books but then again I have always contacted employee care and not regular overseas CS. My CS experience w VZW was horrendous in comparison to Sprint. In store it is hit and miss- but since I rarely ever go to a store that is not an issue for me. They do need to work on consistency.
I already have a dual band s4 so I can do SVD, but I am trying to figure out if the idea of potentially "faster" data is worth losing SVD. Most phone calls end up with some SVD right now, so what I am going to try to do is resist doing it and see how pisd I get.
My biggest worry is GPS and SVD as well as streaming and calls. I know back in the day that I would stream hockey games and sometimes I would end that and have VMs piled up, other times using a hotspot my dad would get upset because he would get kicked off his connection when the phone rang. I never figured out why sometimes a call would interrupt the data connection and others it would not. It always seemed that if it was a nonstop stream - that the voice call would not interrupt the data call.
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I can tell you being I build sprints infrastructure that they are keeping it hush hush but we are building the 65 mhz. System right now and when we get that done they will roll out an update and flip the switch on VOLTE. Its classic sprint to not give any ETA. Hold tight VOLTE is on its way.....I six more months tops
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I can tell you being I build sprints infrastructure that they are keeping it hush hush but we are building the 65 mhz. System right now and when we get that done they will roll out an update and flip the switch on VOLTE. Its classic sprint to not give any ETA. Hold tight VOLTE is on its way.....I six more months tops
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Will it require new phones?
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No we will have Volte on the note 4 we have now
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No we will have Volte on the note 4 we have now
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Anyway to verify what your saying?
Glad to hear we might eventually have VoLTE. Even though at home and work I have WiFi and it's rare for me to be browsing the Web while on a call anyways. And just an FYI anyone experiencing alow data look up the classic tutorial about zeroing out sprints proxys. Using ##3283# the ones you zero out are under Multimedia and DSS. You need your MSL which you can get from Sprint. They tried to screw me around but the first rep I had was a moron and said that I was trying to SIM unlock my phone when really I wasn't and even I was that isn't the code I need. Just tell them you're having data issues and you want to reset your profile using ##786#(I think that's the one) and it's asking for your MSL and if the rep isn't a complete idiot they'll just give it to you. Zero out proxys, reboot, profit. Another FYI if you update PRL or profile after this mod it will put them back so you'll have to repeat. My speeds went up about 20%~ after on my note 4.
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We have multiple bands and I believe our Note 4 has the one needed for VoLTE I just don't think it's used just yet. I could be wrong though I'm just taking a shot in the dark going off the fact that this phone supports sprint spark.
Invisibility said:
Glad to hear we might eventually have VoLTE. Even though at home and work I have WiFi and it's rare for me to be browsing the Web while on a call anyways. And just an FYI anyone experiencing alow data look up the classic tutorial about zeroing out sprints proxys. Using ##3283# the ones you zero out are under Multimedia and DSS. You need your MSL which you can get from Sprint. They tried to screw me around but the first rep I had was a moron and said that I was trying to SIM unlock my phone when really I wasn't and even I was that isn't the code I need. Just tell them you're having data issues and you want to reset your profile using ##786#(I think that's the one) and it's asking for your MSL and if the rep isn't a complete idiot they'll just give it to you. Zero out proxys, reboot, profit. Another FYI if you update PRL or profile after this mod it will put them back so you'll have to repeat. My speeds went up about 20%~ after on my note 4.
We have multiple bands and I believe our Note 4 has the one needed for VoLTE I just don't think it's used just yet. I could be wrong though I'm just taking a shot in the dark going off the fact that this phone supports sprint spark.
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Wrong.
It has nothing to do with bands.
Any Project Fi user? How is it working out?
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It's dope.
Yup. Very happy.
Totally satisfied!
It's awesome!
More than anything I'm happy with the bill. I think mine was $43.xx last month, I'm signed up for 5GB at $70 total. Spent the last year on AT&T Post Paid with a MiFi also on the account at 115ish a month for 15GB. Prior to that I was on AT&T Straight Talk for years.
To be honest, the service is so-so. T-Mobile is T-Mobile, the building penetration sucks, its as mediocre as it was when I got off it in 2011. Sprint does provide better building penetration but the service is slower. I'm often frustrated with Fi's lack of attempt at switching from T-Mo to Sprint or vice-versa. I have Fi-Spy installed and can easily plug in the dialer codes to switch, but why it doesn't do this more proactively is beyond me. Even with the auto switch dialer coder plugged in and a reboot, it rarely switches quickly once a drop in signal is experienced with the carrier in use. The nerd in me thinks its cool to plug in the dialer codes, the normal me is beginning to find it inconvenient. Speeds aren't spectacular, I think that's possibly a function of being in South Louisiana. The carriers invest here last most likely because of the overall poverty of the populous and the gamble that the they can just wait till the network is destroyed by a hurricane and rebuild it with insurance money.
My gut feeling is I'll wait to see if the 6.0.1 release (whenever I finally get it) will make T-Mo work better with the possibility of Band 12. If its not better soon I'll probably switch back to AT&T Straight Talk. AT&T just works everywhere I have been in the US for the last 4 or 5 years. I never have the negative experience I hear people complain about on big blue. The Straight Talk option makes the cost negligible. Although the good ole days of Straight Talk "discount" service cards being sold online for 30ish dollars seems to be gone.
Cellular service is a commodity, while I impress myself with the nerd factor of an aggregated cellular carrier like Google Fi, I just lack the patience to endure the carriers its running on. Struggling with bad or slow service is no longer acceptable with the flexibility of porting numbers to other carriers. $40ish dollars is cheap, but for 50 I could be on Straight Talk on AT&T and not worry about any of the semantics.
...but I did like the Lego kit Google sent me!
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More than anything I'm happy with the bill. I think mine was $43.xx last month, I'm signed up for 5GB at $70 total. Spent the last year on AT&T Post Paid with a MiFi also on the account at 115ish a month for 15GB. Prior to that I was on AT&T Straight Talk for years.
To be honest, the service is so-so. T-Mobile is T-Mobile, the building penetration sucks, its as mediocre as it was when I got off it in 2011. Sprint does provide better building penetration but the service is slower. I'm often frustrated with Fi's lack of attempt at switching from T-Mo to Sprint or vice-versa. I have Fi-Spy installed and can easily plug in the dialer codes to switch, but why it doesn't do this more proactively is beyond me. Even with the auto switch dialer coder plugged in and a reboot, it rarely switches quickly once a drop in signal is experienced with the carrier in use. The nerd in me thinks its cool to plug in the dialer codes, the normal me is beginning to find it inconvenient. Speeds aren't spectacular, I think that's possibly a function of being in South Louisiana. The carriers invest here last most likely because of the overall poverty of the populous and the gamble that the they can just wait till the network is destroyed by a hurricane and rebuild it with insurance money.
My gut feeling is I'll wait to see if the 6.0.1 release (whenever I finally get it) will make T-Mo work better with the possibility of Band 12. If its not better soon I'll probably switch back to AT&T Straight Talk. AT&T just works everywhere I have been in the US for the last 4 or 5 years. I never have the negative experience I hear people complain about on big blue. The Straight Talk option makes the cost negligible. Although the good ole days of Straight Talk "discount" service cards being sold online for 30ish dollars seems to be gone.
Cellular service is a commodity, while I impress myself with the nerd factor of an aggregated cellular carrier like Google Fi, I just lack the patience to endure the carriers its running on. Struggling with bad or slow service is no longer acceptable with the flexibility of porting numbers to other carriers. $40ish dollars is cheap, but for 50 I could be on Straight Talk on AT&T and not worry about any of the semantics.
...but I did like the Lego kit Google sent me!
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What about calling/texting over wifi? The initial reason I decided not to go with Project Fi was for the reasons you stated-- didn't love the carriers that support it. But the more I think about it, the more intrigued I am. I just switched from AT&T to Verizon and I am hardly using any cell data. I'm at wifi at home, wifi at work, and many places that I go. Project Fi is becoming more appealing for the ability of being able to call/text pretty much anywhere over wifi and not have to worry so much about how good the cell signal is. Plus the idea of auto connecting to open wifi hotspots and securing the connection over a VPN tunnel sounds pretty cool as well.
On another note, I don't have any first hand experience with Tmobile but 6.0.1 should help a lot with cell service in buildings if they have band 12 in your area. The geek in you should just flash the factory images instead of waiting for the OTA
I'm very satisfied with my experience so far. My only complaint, a small one at best, would be there is no way to prefer WiFi calling over cellular like with Tmobile.
It's been solid for me. Not just at home, but a number of the approved hotspots as well when I'm out. And I like that these connections are VPN'd.
coolcat67 said:
What about calling/texting over wifi?
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Data usage
I was thinking of going to Project Fi myself and got the invite already. However, I check my data status usage and it's about 4gb or more per month. And I am counting only the usage not being over wifi. I understand that Project Fi switch automatically over wifi if available so you won't use Data over the air as much. However, I'm with the family plan with 15GB and Data carry over next month on AT&T network. If I'm by myself, I would switch over to Project Fi in a heart beat but with family member, I can't. Just my 2 cents thought.
Solutions Etcetera said:
It's been solid for me. Not just at home, but a number of the approved hotspots as well when I'm out. And I like that these connections are VPN'd.
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I have the exact opposite experience, I rarely get auto connected to hot-spots and when I do they're total garbage. Not just in Louisiana, but in large metros I've traveled to in since getting the service. I think only one held the VPN tunnel indicated by the key icon for long enough to do anything.
coolcat67 said:
What about calling/texting over wifi? The initial reason I decided not to go with Project Fi was for the reasons you stated-- didn't love the carriers that support it. But the more I think about it, the more intrigued I am. I just switched from AT&T to Verizon and I am hardly using any cell data. I'm at wifi at home, wifi at work, and many places that I go. Project Fi is becoming more appealing for the ability of being able to call/text pretty much anywhere over wifi and not have to worry so much about how good the cell signal is. Plus the idea of auto connecting to open wifi hotspots and securing the connection over a VPN tunnel sounds pretty cool as well.
On another note, I don't have any first hand experience with Tmobile but 6.0.1 should help a lot with cell service in buildings if they have band 12 in your area. The geek in you should just flash the factory images instead of waiting for the OTA
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What I do love about the service is the ability to use Hangouts on all my devices and in the web browser and text & MMS from it. I think if I went back to Straight Talk I'd probably leave the number with Google Voice which traditionally I've done the opposite and took the number to the carrier and just had a miscellaneous GV number.
I have had problems with call quality over data. Mainly at my house which is AT&T U-Verse, and to top it off Fi does not seem to realize it and will not switch off to cellular when the call quality dissipates. I've literally had to run out my front door into the middle of my street if I'm mid call so it will switch to cellular. Its either this or attempt to fumble the phone and turn off WiFi. My neighbors probably are suspicious of my mid street calls :laugh:. Again, this is a function of AT&T U-verse having 18mb down at my house. Might switch my internet to cable next month to help with the abysmal ISP speeds with U-verse.
Again, don't expect the phone to just start connecting to tons of VPN'ed Google Certified WiFi networks. You'll be disappointed. I was in large metros all up and down the east coast in Nov and again, this may have happened once in each large city. You're going to be looking for the same old Starbucks and misc WiFi networks to make calls if you're really hoping to find WiFi networks in the wild for calling. I have a free Boingo plan through Amex Plat and it helps give availability to more networks than I had access to before. But its not enough that I wouldn't be worried about cell service.
Fingers crossed on 6.0.1... back in the old days I would have downloaded the image the second it was out and flashed it. As I get older and find myself making more excuses for not getting stuff done I rarely want to spend non existent free time diving into roms or any of that. I just want the phone to work and the service to work. Its a long way from chopping up Blackberry OS installers with different features from different Telcos or my first Android phone being a Sprint Touch Pro 2 launching into Android from Windows Mobile. Getting old (or boring) I guess!
Works great here. Except MMS over hangouts looks like garbage. I would love to use hangouts over my other devices with my Project Fi number, but I send to many picture messages. Anyone else have MMS hangouts quality problems?
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Ulver said:
Works great here. Except MMS over hangouts looks like garbage. I would love to use hangouts over my other devices with my Project Fi number, but I send to many picture messages. Anyone else have MMS hangouts quality problems?
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Are you referencing the picture quality of the photos sent? Does it look bad both in Hangouts and also in the receiver's MMS?
Its decent, but I can see why people leave back to Tmobile. I am on WIFI most of the day and yet I manage to use 1.5-2GB per month, I cant imaging using Fi without WIFI. There is no VoLTE an no proper Band 12 implementation. Support is not that great, most replies are copy/paste BS. The whole service is just not as reliable as Tmobile. I pay about $40 bucks for Fi......Tmobile would have been only $50 but everything works 100%, you get som free music and vid streaming, and data falls back to free Edge.
I am gonna stick for a while longer....They said some updates are coming to service in next few month but I call BS on this. Fi team seems to be lying alot about the service and misrepresents it in their advertisement.
aygriffith said:
Are you referencing the picture quality of the photos sent? Does it look bad both in Hangouts and also in the receiver's MMS?
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For me it looks bad on my end and the receivers end via hangouts. I also tried sending pics via my Z3 and the pics look bad on both my wife's Nexus 6 and my Mom's iPhone.
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kolyan said:
The whole service is just not as reliable as Tmobile.
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Weird... I have been on T-Mobile since the days of my RAZR v300 up until just recently. In fact, I still have it on my Moto X. Nothing about it is as good as Fi has been. Granted it is not for folks that are burning through a lot of data, but I have never gone over a Gig, so it's great for me.
Looking at the two phones side by side right now, the TM phone is on HSPA with 4 asu, and the Fi is LTE with 23 asu.
Solutions Etcetera said:
Weird... I have been on T-Mobile since the days of my RAZR v300 up until just recently. In fact, I still have it on my Moto X. Nothing about it is as good as Fi has been. Granted it is not for folks that are burning through a lot of data, but I have never gone over a Gig, so it's great for me.
Looking at the two phones side by side right now, the TM phone is on HSPA with 4 asu, and the Fi is LTE with 23 asu.
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I have Tmobile LTE and VoLTE everywhere pretty much and it switches to Sprint for no reason, I even get Sprint 3G in some places due to bugs. On top of it Tmobile band 12 is not implemented correctly so you end up missing calls and there is no VoLTE support at all. I am not even sure if Tmobile carrier aggression is working on Project Fi
I've been having issues on Project Fi since June, including some spotty roaming in Europe where Tmobile got 5 bars of LTE (capped to 128kbps). Then been dealing with carrier auto switching for over a month now....looks like it just started working with latest Fi app and Android 6.0.1. They also know about all the roaming issues and that Fi doesnt like to connect to roaming providers, thats why they seem to include manual switching in Fi app now so people dont end up with dead phones overseas
They are also kind of lying about equal coverage to Tmo and Sprint....its not equal, at least not yet, lying about 120+ countries where wifi-calling is supported....also bs, real list is around 90-95 countries (not a big deal, but they refuse to fix it)
I switched from Tmobile because I though I will get 100% Tmobile coverage + addition of Sprint with seamless switching (been very buggy) I also need that 256kbps roaming speeds since its double of what Tmobile is offering. Lower bill was just a bonus.....dont really care since its like 10-15 bucks difference
kolyan said:
I've been having issues on Project Fi since June
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Dunno what to tell you; have only been on it since 11/16, but so far it has been great on my 6P.
When I read these comments I wonder how many people were already T-Mobile or Sprint customers and used to so-so coverage and speeds already. Compared in AT&T and Verizon, you're getting what you pay for. Just calling a spade a spade as a long time AT&T customer and a really really long ago T-Mobile and Sprint customer.
It's exactly what they said it was, a beta service. If you want a cheap 5GB of LTE data that works everywhere, get a AT&T Straight Talk sim. If you really think you only use a gig and live in a large metro with a good economy (face it, T-Mobile and Sprint upgrade their carrier equipment metros with better economic conditions first) then you'll be in heaven.
Don't really care about the international, I just buy a sim locally whenever I go overseas. But for the price, if it works, it's a nice feature.
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I have looked thru thread after thread for days and cannot seem to enable WiFi calling on my OnePlus 5 on the AT&T network, Does anyone have a clue?
I switched from AT&T to T-Mobile when I got my OnePlus, so I can't say for sure, but I believe AT&T limits WiFi-Calling to certain devices, and even then, only the AT&T variants of those. (Mostly newer and from big name brands e.g. Apple, Samsung, HTC, LG). Since to my knowledge even an unlocked Galaxy s8 won't have WiFi calling on AT&T, it is unlikely that any OnePlus device will ever have that ability.
reffu said:
I switched from AT&T to T-Mobile when I got my OnePlus, so I can't say for sure, but I believe AT&T limits WiFi-Calling to certain devices, and even then, only the AT&T variants of those. (Mostly newer and from big name brands e.g. Apple, Samsung, HTC, LG). Since to my knowledge even an unlocked Galaxy s8 won't have WiFi calling on AT&T, it is unlikely that any OnePlus device will ever have that ability.
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Yes, I remember reading you can NOT do Wi-Fi calling on att with bring your own device.
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MrWilsonxD said:
Yes, I remember reading you can NOT do Wi-Fi calling on att with bring your own device.
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Le Pro3 is the only device that is BYOD and works on AT&T I believe.
Just another reason TMobile is the real deal
Eric214 said:
Just another reason TMobile is the real deal
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Yeah, or any of their mvno's!
I was with family today in Anaheim, a highly populated, very modern city I mean Disneyland is there.
My dad has AT&T, I have mint sim (a t mobile mvno) I had near 70-80db signal, he was bouncing between 120 and up.. Had no signal whatsoever for extended periods of time. And with their low band frequency purchase, it's only getting better. It's anecdotal evidence, but still..
While I don't think t mobile offers the best network, I strongly feel they are going to get there in a couple years should they keep this up..
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I'm wondering about WiFi texting can the oneplus 5 do it? Also I noticed when in connected to WiFi I can't send any texts.
Att does not allow the 1+5, albeight the technology is there, to do VoWifi or VoLte. They reserve those features for devices solely purchased from Att, ie Only branded devices. If the Le eco does work it out of the box, that's awesome. Don't tell Att that, lol. I got into a huge argument with Att NatCs and filed troubleshooting tickets only to be told, sorry, since it wasn't purchased directly, no work. I have since made the move to TMobile. Im in NJ as a reference. And to be honest, I find the voice quality vastly better to what I had with Att, with hd voice too. I've hit some spots with little to no coverage, usually at a friend's house but my VoWifi kicks in and I have service once again with no issues.
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Many retail/unlock mobiles have "Wifi Calling" function but not any menu entry to enable , The APP can check the hidden function and enable it if can use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.widget7.wifi.calling
ppgirl said:
Many retail/unlock mobiles have "Wifi Calling" function but not any menu entry to enable , The APP can check the hidden function and enable it if can use.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wikimediacom.wifi.calling
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Interesting app. But I'm not sure it works.
I install it, on my un-rooted OnePlus 5, then run it - hey! there's a convincing looking setting, for wifi - and so I activate it. But everytime I return to the app, the setting is 'off' again. Does that mean the setting doesn't 'stick' and my phone (running on AT&T) cannot actually use wifi?
Plus, it looks to me as though the app has to remain running (although there's a setting to not display the notification icon, it doesn't seem to 'stick' either).
Ultimately, I cannot seem to get my phone to actually make a wifi call. For this reason, I'm skeptical this app is able to enable wifi calling, on the AT&T network.
I just called ATT.
I want to upgrade to the 5 and i need it to call over wifi as most of the time i'm in a rural situation with no coverage.
The ATT tech support said there would be no problem.
I hate to say it, but they lied (unless there's been a drastic change as-of-late).
Even if you can get them to provision your 5T, it'll only "stick" for a minute or so, and then revert.
AT&T is somewhat "famous" for their lack of BYOD (non-branded) WiFi call/text support. The exception is iOS devices, and a couple of "certified" Android phones; I think the HTC 10 (or maybe it was the 9) was an example, you can probably count these on one hand.
I call At&T today. No changes so far.
AT&T has an issue like this forever, as they do not wish to give that option to all. That is like a drop in profits, and drop in latency and lags. Anyways, too long to explain, but the gist is, they will have loss if they allow full coverage (at least loss on journal entries)..
vdbhb59 said:
at&t has an issue like this forever, as they do not wish to give that option to all. That is like a drop in profits, and drop in latency and lags. Anyways, too long to explain, but the gist is, they will have loss if they allow full coverage (at least loss on journal entries)..
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BOO... At&t... BOO!