hello. i have a huge dillema. i was using my touch hd to browse a few webpages for 5 min. next thing i knew i had loss 10% battery. have any of you experienced such a huge battery drain before? o.o
crazililazn said:
hello. i have a huge dillema. i was using my touch hd to browse a few webpages for 5 min. next thing i knew i had loss 10% battery. have any of you experienced such a huge battery drain before? o.o
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Having wifi/bluetooth/GPS etc all cause bad battery drain and can cause drain like you described depending on which rom you have installed and which apps you have on your device. Also disabling 'incoming beams' in settings also helps improve battery.
Do a search for 'battery' and you will find numerous threads on battery drain and causes.
Also check to make sure you have no apps running in the background which may add to your drain.
thank you fallen spartan. responding to your post, i am using dutty 3.3 xt rom and it absolutely kills battery, even listen to music for an hour already drains 20% if i actually use my phone to watch a 60 min of videos, 2 hours of music, and play 5-10 min of teeter, my phone does not even last the day. not even close to it. i cant really find an answer looking at other threads cuz they r way worse than my issue. but still for a high-end device like this to have this low of battery life frustrates the hell out of me
crazililazn said:
thank you fallen spartan. responding to your post, i am using dutty 3.3 xt rom and it absolutely kills battery, even listen to music for an hour already drains 20% if i actually use my phone to watch a 60 min of videos, 2 hours of music, and play 5-10 min of teeter, my phone does not even last the day. not even close to it. i cant really find an answer looking at other threads cuz they r way worse than my issue. but still for a high-end device like this to have this low of battery life frustrates the hell out of me
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Craz,
Well, the thing is, battery technology is the slowest improving tech compared to every other hardware piece in mobile technology. There are definitely much better forms of battery technology, but there is still a while before it even reaches us consumers.
Cheers.
crazililazn said:
thank you fallen spartan. responding to your post, i am using dutty 3.3 xt rom and it absolutely kills battery, even listen to music for an hour already drains 20% if i actually use my phone to watch a 60 min of videos, 2 hours of music, and play 5-10 min of teeter, my phone does not even last the day. not even close to it. i cant really find an answer looking at other threads cuz they r way worse than my issue. but still for a high-end device like this to have this low of battery life frustrates the hell out of me
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WIFI drains battery fast unless you select best battery mode (maximum power save) and got it mostly idle, messenger or light websurfing doesnt drain the battery has fast has streaming music or downloading some files. The drain caused by heavy wifi use also harms to much the device thus reducing his life and mostly killing the battery much faster. It's just the way things work, don't blame the device for it because it's the same on all devices.
PoisonWolf said:
Craz,
Well, the thing is, battery technology is the slowest improving tech compared to every other hardware piece in mobile technology. There are definitely much better forms of battery technology, but there is still a while before it even reaches us consumers.
Cheers.
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Don't blame battery technology, wifi wastes to much power in form of heat and most of the time they are using to much power than they need to send the signals, they should be more energy efficient.
Here's what it looks like so far (with only a brief partial recharge yesterday that you can see in the graph).. The screen has been on for about 10 hrs with HEAVY use, over 2 days.
I still have 16% btw.
i wouldn't consider web surfing "heavy". it's a completely different picture when you're watching movies. the fire can only last for 3-4 movies, whereas the nook tablet can squeeze in an extra 2 hours on top of that.
Only 3 to 4 movies? That's pretty good. I couldn't be happier with the battery life.
Lol you really think that during 9 hours my screen was on, all I did was browse the web? Nooo. Just because other apps I used like YouTube and MOG and Guerilla Bob and Sprinkle don't show on that list, doesn't mean they weren't used As far as I understand, all it means is that their impact on the battery wasn't as significant as that of the other apps which are on that list, which is a good think I think.
Btw, if watching 3 or 4 movies (a day!?) is not enough to get you by.. I won't judge.
I have no complaints about battery. I generally only need it to work for about 3-4 hours a day and it does that with plenty to spare.
How did you get the Gingerbread battery statistics screen?
If you have the Beautiful Widgets app from the Android market, just add the "Beautiful Battery 1x1" widget to your homescreen. Then tap on it and it takes you straight to it.
I've read that the S 4 is supposed to have good battery life, with reviews claiming that nothing you can throw at it will make it go below a day, but here's my problem: the turds doing reviews online don't actually use their phone.
I currently have an S II with a 2000mAh battery. Pebble connected, hundreds of Tasker actions/profiles/scenes going off all over the place, A2DP audio streaming, everything turned on all the time, and so on. The 2000 mAh battery in the S II is barely enough to get me through the day at this point, and so 2600mAh paired with a screen that much larger and higher res worries me. I don't buy a phone to play Tamagotchi with the battery, I buy it to use it, so I expect to be able to do whatever I want and not worry about the battery.
So, my question is simple: does anyone who actually use their phone for what it's worth have any thoughts on battery life? I've looked at extended batteries in any case, but it would be nice to hear how it does without such an upgrade.
Use BetterBatteryStats to see what's using your battery or maybe wakelocks
Get a spare if you're going to get an S4 & you use the phone that much. I was pleasantly surprised with the battery life given the things you've mentioned, and I have no problem getting through the day with the 2600mAh battery.
You could get a 3rd party extended battery from one of the more reputable manufacturers (not my thing, but might be yours), or you could even get something like a Trident Electra hard case which has an extended battery built into it (2600mAh) which pretty much doubles the available zzz's you have at your disposal. I would have thought that would be plenty even for a heavy users' daily use (charge at night).
As to whether you personally need either of these, that's going to be hard to say even if you try & give people an idea of your usage. You're really only going to know if you get the phone & set it up/use it the way you do.
Put it this way, if you like/want the phone for whatever reasons you have, get it. You have plenty of options re: battery life & I'd be very surprised if you couldn't easily find a good solution.
I'm considering to buy the Moto 360 when it's out. But there are a few things worrying me. One of them is how big of an impact using an Android Wear Smartwatch on your Smartphones battery life.
At the moment my Oppo Find 5 lasts from 4am to 4am (being in moderate use all the time) and I need that much battery life. So, if a smartwatch consumes more than 10-20% of my phones batterylife in a 24h day, I definitely won't buy one.
I'm using it with a Nexus 5.. it has a lot of wakelocks but i haven't seen a huge impact on battery life....
You can find a lot more inforamation about the battery life in this thread
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I'm considering to buy the Moto 360 when it's out. But there are a few things worrying me. One of them is how big of an impact using an Android Wear Smartwatch on your Smartphones battery life.
At the moment my Oppo Find 5 lasts from 4am to 4am (being in moderate use all the time) and I need that much battery life. So, if a smartwatch consumes more than 10-20% of my phones batterylife in a 24h day, I definitely won't buy one.
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All smart accessories does take up a percent of your phones battery life.
It is also dependent on how frequently you allow notifications to be synced on your phone or "pushed"
e.g. Weather updates. mail updates, social media updates, etc.
While the lowest battery saving settings will not take up to 5% battery, the highest more freq settings can and will leech more battery from your phone.
However with this said, I still find it advisable that smart phone users carry a portable charger, as its always better to have an emergency back up
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All smart accessories does take up a percent of your phones battery life.
It is also dependent on how frequently you allow notifications to be synced on your phone or "pushed"
e.g. Weather updates. mail updates, social media updates, etc.
While the lowest battery saving settings will not take up to 5% battery, the highest more freq settings can and will leech more battery from your phone.
However with this said, I still find it advisable that smart phone users carry a portable charger, as its always better to have an emergency back up
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What are you listening most people have zero issues tethering bluetooth?
For most it is 3% battery life, big deal. Use bluetooth headset, in car, and the watch.
What is 3% of the 16 hours or so my phone goes in between charges?
When I buy a smart phone I make sure if lasts on the battery and I do not mean just 7am to 10pm checking and odd email; I mean bluetooth on, GPS on,, data on, browse for maybe an hour, games an hour, watch a full movie, dozens of emails, stream video and audio.
I will never need to buy a portable charger, I do not own an iPhone..
The screen shot I seen shows specifically "Android Wear" using battery life, this is an app and has nothing to do with bluetooth.
I am not good at troubleshooting such things but when I check my battery life, Android Wear is not even in the list.
I use a Note 3 with 4.4.2 I kind of expect one of 3 things, a wake lock and I do not know why it happen. The phone the OP has is using something like antivirus or a third party battery saver app which most post say to avoid or maybe it is running an old version of Android.
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What are you listening most people have zero issues tethering bluetooth?
For most it is 3% battery life, big deal. Use bluetooth headset, in car, and the watch.
What is 3% of the 16 hours or so my phone goes in between charges?
When I buy a smart phone I make sure if lasts on the battery and I do not mean just 7am to 10pm checking and odd email; I mean bluetooth on, GPS on,, data on, browse for maybe an hour, games an hour, watch a full movie, dozens of emails, stream video and audio.
I will never need to buy a portable charger, I do not own an iPhone..
The screen shot I seen shows specifically "Android Wear" using battery life, this is an app and has nothing to do with bluetooth.
I am not good at troubleshooting such things but when I check my battery life, Android Wear is not even in the list.
I use a Note 3 with 4.4.2 I kind of expect one of 3 things, a wake lock and I do not know why it happen. The phone the OP has is using something like antivirus or a third party battery saver app which most post say to avoid or maybe it is running an old version of Android.
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I am sorry, I do not get what you mean "What are you listening most people have zero issues tethering bluetooth?"
Do not see anywhere in this thread or my post saying we have issues tethering bluetooth.
Anyways, I am referring to OP worries of 10-20% battery drain from Bluetooth with Push notifications to Android wear.
I own a few android phones as well as a few iOS phones.
Depending on how often you push notifications from your Android phone to the Android Wear, the battery % varies. You cannot see this on the screen anywhere.
Like I mentioned previously, the lowest settings it will not take up to 5% (which means it is lesser)
However if you set push notifications (depending on individual phones and roms) to every minute, it will definitely kill your battery faster.
For example, some phones or modded roms allows you to increase the updates to every minute or 5 minutes.
The following is a list of updates most people would have, but not limited to these
1. Location
2. Weather
3. Social Media
4. Emails
5. News updates
6. Stock and shares
7. etc
What happens is then your Phone will update every minute or 5 minute (using WiFi or Mobile internet) thus draining battery, and then pushed the alert to your android wear or such device.
Thus Android Wear in itself does not drain your battery life, but to be exact the time intervals you want to be sync/updated actually does decrease battery life.
I am not sure if I answered what OP is asking for.
Since I am very sure if using it normally, there is no way it will take up to 5% battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-live/help/poll-how-gear-live-affected-phones-t2808909
Only 3 people had issues.
The poll they are talking about the phone not the watch so you should be able to extend the data to all current and future Android Wear devices.
Tethering a bluetooth device has a small impact.
Most people have small or no impact
AstroDigital said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-live/help/poll-how-gear-live-affected-phones-t2808909
Only 3 people had issues.
The poll they are talking about the phone not the watch so you should be able to extend the data to all current and future Android Wear devices.
Tethering a bluetooth device has a small impact.
Most people have small or no impact
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Ah that I totally agree, no or not much impact from Android wear, only how you set your update / sync / push notification intervals on your phone
Cheerios!
Thank you guys, now I know this won't be a problem. I'm still not sure if I will buy one because I think Motorola made some wrong choices with the Moto 360.
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I use a Note 3 with 4.4.2 I kind of expect one of 3 things, a wake lock and I do not know why it happen. The phone the OP has is using something like antivirus or a third party battery saver app which most post say to avoid or maybe it is running an old version of Android.
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This is not true and I even find it a little offensive. Just because I don't post at XDA's very often, people assume I have little knowledge on Android.
My Smartphone is one of the cleanest Smartphones you'll ever find. I'm running CM11. The only 3rd-Party-App causing Wakelocks is Whatsapp and I don't have Google Search enabled. I'm not even using Xposed. Every evening I take a look at BBS and make sure there isn't a single unnecessary Wakelock. Believe me, Wakelocks aren't the reason for that.
The Find 5 just doesn't last very long when in use. On moderate brightness I only get 4-6 hours of browsing via Wifi.
To answer the original question "again" no the Wear Smartwatch does not effect my phones battery life.
Oppo what ever I never heard of, I buy smartphones that have great battery life, the Note 3 gets my 2 days on OEM firmware.
If you have have phone that before you turn bluetooth on it only lasts from 7am to say 10pm need a bit more juice drained to turn low power bluetooth on maybe more noticable.
Xerionius said:
I'm considering to buy the Moto 360 when it's out. But there are a few things worrying me. One of them is how big of an impact using an Android Wear Smartwatch on your Smartphones battery life.
At the moment my Oppo Find 5 lasts from 4am to 4am (being in moderate use all the time) and I need that much battery life. So, if a smartwatch consumes more than 10-20% of my phones batterylife in a 24h day, I definitely won't buy one.
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Oppo N1 user here. I have a ~10% improvement in battery life, since I check my LG G Watch more than taking out my phone, so less screen backlight time means more power saved.
Without my smartwatch, I'd usually reach home with ~50% battery life left (from 7am to 6pm). Now, it's ~60%. My notifications are the usual, lots of Twitter, FB, G+, Instagram, instant messages and SMSes. From here, it's up to you to prioritise which notifications you want to glance and swipe away, voice reply or "Open on Phone".
Oh, and if you can, leave your "Vibrate" ticked for each app, but switch off haptic feedback and vibration on the main settings, so the watch will still vibrate but your phone will not. I'm running OmniROM, so I used the "Quiet Hours" to turn off the main vibrations.
saggitas said:
Oppo N1 user here. I have a ~10% improvement in battery life, since I check my LG G Watch more than taking out my phone, so less screen backlight time means more power saved.
Without my smartwatch, I'd usually reach home with ~50% battery life left (from 7am to 6pm). Now, it's ~60%. My notifications are the usual, lots of Twitter, FB, G+, Instagram, instant messages and SMSes. From here, it's up to you to prioritise which notifications you want to glance and swipe away, voice reply or "Open on Phone".
Oh, and if you can, leave your "Vibrate" ticked for each app, but switch off haptic feedback and vibration on the main settings, so the watch will still vibrate but your phone will not. I'm running OmniROM, so I used the "Quiet Hours" to turn off the main vibrations.
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That was something I was thinking about. But almost all my notifications come from WhatsApp and I can't imagine answering from the watch itself is practical, so I don't think this will happen to me.
I'm getting a ton of qcom_rx_wakelock and it has to be from the the watch.
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That was something I was thinking about. But almost all my notifications come from WhatsApp and I can't imagine answering from the watch itself is practical, so I don't think this will happen to me.
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then you'd better save your money, stick with your phone. Anyway, reviews are coming in about the sub-par battery life of the Moto360, because of it's "mislabelled" 300mAh battery, and power hungry CPU that was used on the Motorola Droid 2 (yes, it's a 4 year old CPU).
there are some known issues of smartwatches draining battery on your phone due to their FW updates
for example this thread in XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2573283
There are some others if you search more (here or google), but basically its a FW or update issue with the watch improperly syncing non stop with the phone, hence causing the bluetooth to constantly and actively transfer 1s and 0s between SW and Phone, thus draining battery life.
Besides this scenario, there should not be any other issues that I have encountered.
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I'm getting a ton of qcom_rx_wakelock and it has to be from the the watch.
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I haven't specifically noticed that wakelock, but I do get BluetoothRemoteDevices wakelock since I got my Gear Live. My idle drain on the phone does seem a bit worse when paired to my watch compared to how it was before, but I haven't done extensive testing.
I would never believe that it has no effects on your phone
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then you'd better save your money, stick with your phone. Anyway, reviews are coming in about the sub-par battery life of the Moto360, because of it's "mislabelled" 300mAh battery, and power hungry CPU that was used on the Motorola Droid 2 (yes, it's a 4 year old CPU).
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That's what I ment when I said Motorola made some wrong choices. Instead of including a Heartrate-Monitor they should have chosen a bigger battery. Plus, using a Snapdragon 400 and an OLED-Screen (for the always-on-option) would have increased battery life drastical, too.
I decided not to get a Smartwatch. Instead, I purchased a LG G3 I got for a low price a couple of days ago. Unfortunately, I didn't know the bootloader isn't unlockable yet and propably will never be, so I don't really know what to do now. :/
saggitas said:
Oppo N1 user here. I have a ~10% improvement in battery life, since I check my LG G Watch more than taking out my phone, so less screen backlight time means more power saved.
Without my smartwatch, I'd usually reach home with ~50% battery life left (from 7am to 6pm). Now, it's ~60%. My notifications are the usual, lots of Twitter, FB, G+, Instagram, instant messages and SMSes. From here, it's up to you to prioritise which notifications you want to glance and swipe away, voice reply or "Open on Phone".
Oh, and if you can, leave your "Vibrate" ticked for each app, but switch off haptic feedback and vibration on the main settings, so the watch will still vibrate but your phone will not. I'm running OmniROM, so I used the "Quiet Hours" to turn off the main vibrations.
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its ok !!
Battery doctor
Xerionius said:
I'm considering to buy the Moto 360 when it's out. But there are a few things worrying me. One of them is how big of an impact using an Android Wear Smartwatch on your Smartphones battery life.
At the moment my Oppo Find 5 lasts from 4am to 4am (being in moderate use all the time) and I need that much battery life. So, if a smartwatch consumes more than 10-20% of my phones batterylife in a 24h day, I definitely won't buy one.
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Battery drainage is one of the biggest problem with the increasing number of functions in the app. You can use battery doctor in your smartphone which help to increase your battery life while you are using Android wear on your smartphones.
No
My phone is not adversely affected by my wear smartwatch.
Who the "battery nerd" is? It is a person, who does not care about using a phone, having fun. All he cares is battery life. What should I do to increase my battery life? Why my battery life is so bad? Why people achieve better results than me? Am I battery nerd?
I was.
We will get to that later. Smartphones nowadays are very powerful devices, have very beautiful screens and too many features to count. They are portable, they need energy to run. They need also to be handy and fit to a pocket. How to make them last forever? Tweak your phone. Turn off all features of a smartphone, debloat, install custom rom, remove wakelocks, wakeups, everything. Basically, do not use your phone at all. I went through all of this. Why? To get the best SOT? No, I still can't explain it. I lost my mind and wasn't happy with my phone. People were like - hey, you have Note 4, it's amazing, are you having fun? Do you know, what was I using it for? For the same things that my friends were. Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, Youtube, Web browser, Camera and so on. I did not feel better with the N4. Very fast processor, a lot of ram, beautiful screen quality. And that's nothing. Because I used a battery profile settings in my kernel app, task killer to kill all apps in the background and almost black and white screen to get the best battery life. Not to mention that I asked about a hundred guys here asking for help. What my setup looked like? Clean, heavily debloated rom, custom kernel with battery profile, low saturated screen, xposed, greenify, amplify, power nap, appops, intelli3g. Turned off all the features that smartphone has. Black wallpaper, black theme, almost the darkest brightness level possible.
Suddenly one day I woke up at the morning with a feeling that I need to change it. Formatted, wiped and installed a clean, stock rom. Stock I mean Alexandr in my case (N910F). And I did nothing to improve my battery. Then I started to be happy. Be happy to use the smartphone and all of its features. If I need to charge it, I carry a powerbank or a charger.
What about you, are you battery nerd?
I was one for a very small time, but i realised that what i did to get better battery life didn't change anything. Example is greenify, i greenify'd almost everything but it did nothing to get better SOT or better overall battery life.
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i used to be......now i just don't care....i charge my phone as many times as i need.