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Battery life.......Does it really matter?...uhhh NO!

I read so many threads and comments complaining about "battery life"
Turning this off and that off, not using this app or that app. Dreaded enemy "wake locks". Turning brightness down and generally Not using all these great devices have to offer to squeeze out more battery life. Even to the extent of over 24 hours.
We have a phenomenal and powerful device that does a whole lot with a huge screen and a ton of great BG apps updating all kinds of information we enjoy these devices for.
MOST of all we all have the (getting rare) opportunity to swap out an inexpensive battery in less than 30 seconds be up and running for another 5-10 hours depending on our enjoyment and use.
Do people not have electricity? They cannot charge every night? They can afford a $600 phone (or $300 subsidized) and $600 plus a year for service but cannot buy a $20 battery in order to actually USE the device as designed and go through all kinds of contortions, apps, settings, and worse, anguish at running out of juice after (gasp) 8 hours?
People getting hung up on "benchmarking" and posting screen shots of phones on battery for 3 days...(of course rarely used) to squeeze and extra 30 minutes.
TURN IT OFF!! bet the battery lasts well over a month. You win!
I guess I just don't understand the "issue" with a device where batteries can be swapped out so easily.
I get maybe 10 hours normally with everything on and at minimum updating. I have infinite screen on and turn it off when I am done using it. (hate those timeouts while reading something). FB and news updates at minimum. Maps always running latitude. If its there its on BT, Screen rotation, GPS, I just don't worry about battery life as I would rather carry an extra battery in my desk at home auto or work and in my wallet than not USE the device as designed.
Personally I would never buy another phone without the ability to swap out a battery lest I would gain have to "ration" my use of such a great device which would be akin to a witnessing a gay man win a date with a single and seductive Angela Jolie . Why bother?
Am I alone here? Anyone else consider battery life as much a non issue as I do on these Samsung phones?

I'm with you on this one. Why do all of that stupid things if you can solve it with $20 battery.
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A lot of the battery life threads are related to abnormally high battery drain.
As an example, on GB I would about 1% battery per hour if the phone was idle.
When I upgraded to LPY, I was losing 2-3% per hour, and sometimes higher, because the phone was not going into deep sleep.
This might not seem much of a difference for just 1 hour, but over the course of a day, it is a huge difference.
Now I'm on LPF, my battery drain is about the same, or lower than GB when idle.

richlum said:
A lot of the battery life threads are related to abnormally high battery drain.
As an example, on GB I would about 1% battery per hour if the phone was idle.
When I upgraded to LPY, I was losing 2-3% per hour, and sometimes higher, because the phone was not going into deep sleep.
This might not seem much of a difference for just 1 hour, but over the course of a day, it is a huge difference.
Now I'm on LPF, my battery drain is about the same, or lower than GB when idle.
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I guess "abnormally high" is debatable. For me it would be a 80% battery crapping out before then end of a 2 hour movie.
A day is only 24 hours long and I assume people will sleep for 6-8 hours so Even a 5% drain per hour would mean more than 16 hours of standby with 20% remaining!! How can that be an issue? I doubt my phone "deep sleeps" I have BG apps running all the time with notifications. One extra battery solves all issues. No need for special apps, tweaking this and that, flashing this and that simply for battery life.
If people sleep 6-8 hours during a 24 hour period they can easily and consistently charge their batteries. A 3% drain per hour would not be an issue. If we watch movies and play games we already know the battery will drain within a few hours. Pop in another battery and brand new again.

You are assuming that people are always near a power source.
I am normally near a power source. I am either at work and charge via USB or in my car or at home.
The issue is the past 3 days I was out and about (malls, hotels, restaurants and so on) and was not near a power source for more than 10 minutes. My battery died in about 4 hours of usage. Mostly checking email, instagram and facebook.
I keep my brightness at full strength by the way (unless if the lights are off in bed).
Yes, so battery is an issue.
Not everyone is constantly near a power source.

So you think if I put my fully charged Note into Airplane mode when I go to sleep and wake up in the morning just to find out to my surprise that I lost 32 % of battery life in six hours is normal? In airplane mode? On official update via Kies, never rooted, never anything custom? That is normal to you? Wow, you are either stupid or work for Samsung. If you work for Samsung can you help me to get my GB battery life back? I have already spend good money for the phone, I am not willing to spend a dime extra for another battery on 6 months old phone.

If your phone is working as intended, battery life issues are not really an issue.
It basically means your phone sleeps when its supposed to.
However, some devices never go into deep sleep due to some issue with kernel or a rogue app. Thats where the battery problem comes in.

carlitos66 said:
So you think if I put my fully charged Note into Airplane mode when I go to sleep and wake up in the morning just to find out to my surprise that I lost 32 % of battery life in six hours is normal? In airplane mode? On official update via Kies, never rooted, never anything custom? That is normal to you? Wow, you are either stupid or work for Samsung. If you work for Samsung can you help me to get my GB battery life back? I have already spend good money for the phone, I am not willing to spend a dime extra for another battery on 6 months old phone.
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Thats not normal.
I turn off data and wifi on my Note when I go to sleep (6 hours also) and I loose about 5 to 10 %.
This is with telephone signal only. No data or wifi.

to the post #7. So how come it didn't happened in stock GB previously? In GB I lost about 1 % overnight when in airplane mode. Reliability of batteries on this phone is a big deal, unfortunatelly.

Battery is always an issue. Nobody likes running to the charger every 3 hours. They want to charge and preferably when we are not using it, when we sleep.
So yes, it does not comply with expectatoin with continuous use. So yes its an issue. At least for me
Next to this having the enduser juggle with what wakelocks are or other battery eaters are dont help much. That counts for all smart phones.
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There is also the issue about well behaved v badly behaved apps. I've installed apps and my battery life has plummeted, normally due to the app writing tons to the system log as it doesn't run well on my device.
In that situation it's nice to know the phone generally isn't sucking masses of juice itself so you aren't caught out and about with no battery left.
As the OP says, I guess I could carry a spare battery, but I could also carry a spare phone (my old Nokia 6310 used to last weeks on a charge) - and I don't want to do either. I want the battery on my phone to survive general use and still be able to be used for calls if needed. For me, it's not about €20\$20 for a battery, it's about the hassle of having to carry another thing around with me all the time and make sure I'd remembered to charge the damned thing when I actually needed it.
Personally, I use my phone like a tablet and as a phone and generally get 1-2 days out of it no problem. That said there are definitely some battery drain issues with the official German ICS build and it's worth protecting yourself against unnecessary drain if possible.

carlitos66 said:
, I am not willing to spend a dime extra for another battery on 6 months old phone.
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And there is your only problem.........it's not "airplane" mode while you sleep. You could charge while you sleep. Again problem solved.
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CorruptedSanity said:
You are assuming that people are always near a power source.
I am normally near a power source. I am either at work and charge via USB or in my car or at home.
The issue is the past 3 days I was out and about (malls, hotels, restaurants and so on) and was not near a power source for more than 10 minutes. My battery died in about 4 hours of usage. Mostly checking email, instagram and facebook.
I keep my brightness at full strength by the way (unless if the lights are off in bed).
Yes, so battery is an issue.
Not everyone is constantly near a power source.
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I happen to believe it's asking far to much of a device once used only as a phone and now as a notebook computer, music player, movie player,gaming platform, big screen, GPS, on and on to be able to operate without expecting batteries to wither within hours. I bought extra batteries so I can use all the functions without worry. There are performance issues people strive to enhance. I get that. But battery life is counter productive to enhancing performance.
I cannot understand all the teeth gnashing about battery life with all the options available Especially those of us who are power users. . not the least being charging while asleep. So many post battery loss while sleeping...... That's what chargers are for.
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tbong777 said:
I am assuming people sleep near a power source. Is that a reach?
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Sometimes. I go to music festivals where we camp for up to 5 days at a time. I may have access to a powerpoint for 30 mins a day, but not always. I carry spare batteries, but that doesn't mean I want my phone sucking my battery like crazy.
When travelling around, I use my phone more often than normal (gmaps etc)... If I'm away from the hotel for 12 hours +, again, having decent battery life is not an unreasonable thing to want.
My Desire HD (yes I know, smaller screen, slower cpu), could pull over 30 hours out of a battery with conservative use (without turning the radios off).
I still wouldn't give up my Note, but having to recharge each time I get home is pretty annoying.

Ha, ha!
I find it funny that a post complaining about people complaining about battery life ends up with people's comments complaining about battery life!
Seriously, though, when those rogue apps steal my precious battery, I get annoyed. I paid for the damned thing, and I want to use it when I want to use it, not find it is half-drained.
I use it pretty normally, and charge it every day (new batteries are cheap). I carry a spare in my wallet too.
I sometimes spend four hours a working day on the phone, BT all day, plus an hour or two screen and WiFi on. If I have managed it OK (by killing battery stealing apps) I get about 50 to 60% left. If not, I can be down to 30% after that. That may not be enough for the rest of the day.
Why should it be a problem that people like to get a full day from one battery? It is not difficult, although you do need Root. Shame on Samsung that it is necessary, when it is clearly possible.

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jeromepearce said:
I find it funny that a post complaining about people complaining about battery life ends up with people's comments complaining about battery life!
Seriously, though, when those rogue apps steal my precious battery, I get annoyed. I paid for the damned thing, and I want to use it when I want to use it, not find it is half-drained.
I use it pretty normally, and charge it every day (new batteries are cheap). I carry a spare in my wallet too.
I sometimes spend four hours a working day on the phone, BT all day, plus an hour or two screen and WiFi on. If I have managed it OK (by killing battery stealing apps) I get about 50 to 60% left. If not, I can be down to 30% after that. That may not be enough for the rest of the day.
Why should it be a problem that people like to get a full day from one battery? It is not difficult, although you do need Root. Shame on Samsung that it is necessary, when it is clearly possible.
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Lol I was seeking those who don't have issues. And was hoping for a discussion on how they deal with battery life without rationing or tweaking....not more complainers
It's a problem of unrealistic expectations.IMO When you look at the device it self and what it's capable of.
Yeah Samsung could have put a larger battery and fatter back on the phone but people would complain about that. Those solutions are available for power users as well. I think we are lucky to have a device where we have options to solve a basic issue other than not using functions. Apple and HTC do not have the same luxury.
Got to go........ battery is di

I'm a light user with the occasional call and sms and my battery last ~6 days. Phone is 3 moths old. However, I find that my battery usage is very dependent on signal strength. I usually get 4 bars and when that happens battery drains like 10% a day and when it is down to 1-2 bars then it can be 3 times that. I guess I'm fortunate that I get 4 bars most of the time in the office and at home.
I have a battery monitor widget installed and I must say that it makes me paranoid of using the phone and causing high drain. May uninstall it soon and use the phone as it should be used.

My expectations are pretty much met when it comes to battery life of the Galaxy Note. It lasts a whole working day. That's all I need. And for exceptional situations when I don't have access to a socket I have got a spare battery.
It's clear that the Note drains the battery really fast if it's in use. Just look at the screen . I also agree that it's annoying if the battery is empty after only 1/2 working day. But some people really have to blame themselves. If you don't turn off Wifi, Bluetooth and GPS when they are not needed it's no miracle that the battery is empty in no time. If you constantly check Facebook, Twitter and the like you have to accept that battery life will be significantly shorter.
For me the worst things are Bluetooth headsets. Not only is it annoying to have one more device that has to be charged but it also constantly drains the battery of the phone. Ok those wireless headsets are comfortable but you pay for it by faster battery drain.

hi guys, cool down.
the different opinions about the battery issue are resulting from the different way of using the phone along with the life style.
Some may need a bckp bat. Some can make sure they are always close to a power source ( if people spend a substantial part of the day in cars f.e.) Some even need an additional external power pack, as they are not close to power outlets all day.
That all makes sense to me but doesn't make me switching off all the nice features of that great phone. It is not an a piece for exhibition in a shopping window, it is for my personal use for business and/or leisure activities. It even connects me via video when I am far away from home, it connects me to the social networks and it let me professionally do my work and up or download all info I need from my corporation. I can log in via VPN to my workplace and edit documents by collaborating with colleagues through the cloud. It shows me the way through the GPS, if I need.
It entertains me in many different way if I want, It helps me to find a good restaurant.
I do not longer use a notebook computer or a tablet.
My Notebook computer could work hardly 2 hours with the same usage like my SGN.
So, I accept that this racing machine does need after some laps a pit stop for filling up the power.
Just love that tool, just love it

altae said:
My expectations are pretty much met when it comes to battery life of the Galaxy Note. It lasts a whole working day. That's all I need. And for exceptional situations when I don't have access to a socket I have got a spare battery.
It's clear that the Note drains the battery really fast if it's in use. Just look at the screen . I also agree that it's annoying if the battery is empty after only 1/2 working day. But some people really have to blame themselves. If you don't turn off Wifi, Bluetooth and GPS when they are not needed it's no miracle that the battery is empty in no time. If you constantly check Facebook, Twitter and the like you have to accept that battery life will be significantly shorter.
For me the worst things are Bluetooth headsets. Not only is it annoying to have one more device that has to be charged but it also constantly drains the battery of the phone. Ok those wireless headsets are comfortable but you pay for it by faster battery drain.
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These are the kinds of responses I was hoping people people would post rather than more whining about battery life. there are plenty of those threads already.
I was hoping for a POSITIVE thread people could read to calm their perceived issues with battery life. BTW I don't use BT head sets for Music. Yes another thing to deal with charging where you cannot simpy replace a battery. I prefer the far better quality wired earbuds.

How I am getting two days of battery life

Many people are getting the Turbo for the battery life it should be getting, and are disappointed with real world results. Personally, I have been super happy. Coming from an iPhone 5S, I am getting much better battery life while in use, but have noticed my idle usage a bit worse. I knew that would happen, Android is notorious for poor idle battery life, especially with out-of-the-box configuration, and initial release firmware for a new phone, let alone initial release firmware for a new chipset / radio / screen combo.
So, like I had done with every Android phone I have owned (I started with Android on a TyTN II, then HTC G1, then Nexus 1, then HTC G2, and so forth)... I setup my Turbo to match my actual usage needs, privacy desires, and so forth. A few items of note that we could all benefit from are the following:
1) Disable unused / unwanted apps. I could probably be more aggressive than I was, but I feel fine enough. (see attached screen captures)
2) Use WiFi over cellular data when possible.
3) Auto screen brightness.
4) Turn off GPS, and even better, turn off location all together.
5) Turn off bluetooth when not in use.
6) The battery needs to go through ~1 week of charge cycles to fully calibrate and settle in.
7) Keep in mind, the more features you use (ie Moto Voice, location aware services, etc) the more battery used.
I use Moto Display, but do not use Moto Voice or Google Now. I have 2 emails syncing, and get ~100 emails a day that I am notified about. Plenty of texts, very few phone calls. Facebook, Facebook messenger, Google+, and I think that is it for apps that update / stay active when not in use.
I have had no problem getting 2 days of use out of my Turbo. Take it off the charger morning of day 1, use it, go to sleep, use it for another, and toss it on the charger when I go to bed. I average about 3-4 hours screen on time each day, mostly spent responding to texts, surfing the web, facebook, google +, and taking pictures of neat stuff I see and think I can use in a web design.
I didn't screen capture it, but last night when I put my Turbo on the charger I still had 24% left, with just over 6 hours of SOT, and nearly 38 hours on battery. Now, I sold cellphones for 6 years, and would consider myself a little above average in my usage based on my personal experience and observations. I would classify most of the folk on here as heavy users.
For me, this phone is about giving us a power house of a device, with a battery to match. I didn't buy into the marketing claims. My expectation was enough battery to get me through a full day. So far, the phone has exceeded my expectations by two fold.
I fully expect future updates to improve battery life even more, especially as Motorola improves their firmware for the 805 chipset, QHD displays, and the new radio chip. As well, KitKat has never been very good at handling idle background apps, so Lollipop should bring a pretty big boost in those regards as well (although, I am only seeing .5% idle drain an hour over night, which is not great, but is better than many others I have seen).
In conclusion, for those still reading, the battery life is solid in my experience. With a few setup tweaks, it is the best I have ever experienced on a smartphone since the old school Blackberry days.

I get near 2 days with having the brightness in the negatives with lux. I almost never use GPS or Bluetooth. I also turn off any data usage when I don't need it (4g/WiFi). I know people may say something like "I shouldn't have to turn brightness down into the negatives ". Well, ya don't have to if you don't want excellent battery life and try not to believe these near ridiculous claims.

I get less than one day and I'm actually using the phone and features rather than gimp my phone so I can show off my epenis on XDA. I just charge at night, while driving or drop on a charging pad if needed. Doesn't bother me and I can use every feature I want. Love it.

mobilehavoc said:
I get less than one day and I'm actually using the phone and features rather than gimp my phone so I can show off my epenis on XDA. I just charge at night, while driving or drop on a charging pad if needed. Doesn't bother me and I can use every feature I want. Love it.
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I use my phone and the features that I actually want to and care to use. Just because a phone can do something, doesn't mean you have to do that. My laptop can edit videos super crazy awesome, but I don't. So if I don't care to use Moto Voice, Google Now, and other features, that is my choice, and is not gimping the phone.
I don't see why you felt the need to try and show off your epenis by being a prick, but congratulations on lacking basic reading comprehension, and having a lot of pointless anger.
Guess next time I decide to share my personal experience, and tid-bits of advice, I will run it by you first to make sure it doesn't offend you.

That's fine but the point is with everything you've turned off I don't understand the reason to get it at all. Also just curious you really have no ability to charge it in less than 48 hours? I don't get the fascination with battery life its like a game.

mobilehavoc said:
That's fine but the point is with everything you've turned off I don't understand the reason to get it at all. Also just curious you really have no ability to charge it in less than 48 hours? I don't get the fascination with battery life its like a game.
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I removed the apps I don't / won't ever use... do you plan on using the Verizon Navigator? If not, why wouldn't you disable it? I turned off services I rarely use, such as GPS and location services (which if I do use maps to navigate to a new place, I can turn it back on with one tap on the power control widget).
I don't get a phone because it gives me a bunch of new random features to use, even though they do nothing for me. I get a phone that is powerful enough to do the same stuff as my laptop when it comes to managing 5 servers, running a business that involves a ton of email communication, and marketing that business with social media. I use plenty of features of the phone, probably more than you do, I just don't waste my time using stuff that doesn't make me more efficient.
To answer your question, I have access to a charger pretty much 24/7, most people do to. I don't get why you can't understand that some people choose not to charge their phone, just for the sake of charging it. I toss it on the charger when it needs it.

Here's something that has helped a lot with Moto Display: unchecking the quiet mode on the Sleep settings, checking the "turn off display" and setting the time for sleep mode to be 12:01am-12:00am, essentially setting it to be all day. This means the screen won't pulse every few seconds, but you can still use the wave motion and proximity sensor to show the Moto Display!
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pjcforpres said:
I removed the apps I don't / won't ever use... do you plan on using the Verizon Navigator? If not, why wouldn't you disable it? I turned off services I rarely use, such as GPS and location services (which if I do use maps to navigate to a new place, I can turn it back on with one tap on the power control widget).
I don't get a phone because it gives me a bunch of new random features to use, even though they do nothing for me. I get a phone that is powerful enough to do the same stuff as my laptop when it comes to managing 5 servers, running a business that involves a ton of email communication, and marketing that business with social media. I use plenty of features of the phone, probably more than you do, I just don't waste my time using stuff that doesn't make me more efficient.
To answer your question, I have access to a charger pretty much 24/7, most people do to. I don't get why you can't understand that some people choose not to charge their phone, just for the sake of charging it. I toss it on the charger when it needs it.
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That's all I'm saying. You could charge the phone if you wanted but you choose not to. I'm guessing you wait until your car is running on fumes before filling it up or do you keep a gas tank in your trunk. [emoji3]

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That's all I'm saying. You could charge the phone if you wanted but you choose not to. I'm guessing you wait until your car is running on fumes before filling it up or do you keep a gas tank in your trunk. [emoji3]
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Actually, I try to make sure I always have at least half a tank of gas. Most vehicles have an in-tank fuel pump, which run best and last the longest when fully immersed in fuel, which typically is ~35-45% full tank.

I used to be obsessed with SOT and battery life. The **** I had to turn off to get my battery life to match those on XDA was insane. Now I don't care. I use my phone to the max and at most I have to charge it nightly. Otherwise it lasts me through part of the next day. LG G2 btw.
Either way, do as you please. It is your phone. And if battery life is key for you all the more power!

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Many people are getting the Turbo for the battery life it should be getting, and are disappointed with real world results. Personally, I have been super happy. Coming from an iPhone 5S, I am getting much better battery life while in use, but have noticed my idle usage a bit worse. I knew that would happen, Android is notorious for poor idle battery life, especially with out-of-the-box configuration, and initial release firmware for a new phone, let alone initial release firmware for a new chipset / radio / screen combo.
So, like I had done with every Android phone I have owned (I started with Android on a TyTN II, then HTC G1, then Nexus 1, then HTC G2, and so forth)... I setup my Turbo to match my actual usage needs, privacy desires, and so forth. A few items of note that we could all benefit from are the following:
1) Disable unused / unwanted apps. I could probably be more aggressive than I was, but I feel fine enough. (see attached screen captures)
2) Use WiFi over cellular data when possible.
3) Auto screen brightness.
4) Turn off GPS, and even better, turn off location all together.
5) Turn off bluetooth when not in use.
6) The battery needs to go through ~1 week of charge cycles to fully calibrate and settle in.
7) Keep in mind, the more features you use (ie Moto Voice, location aware services, etc) the more battery used.
I use Moto Display, but do not use Moto Voice or Google Now. I have 2 emails syncing, and get ~100 emails a day that I am notified about. Plenty of texts, very few phone calls. Facebook, Facebook messenger, Google+, and I think that is it for apps that update / stay active when not in use.
I have had no problem getting 2 days of use out of my Turbo. Take it off the charger morning of day 1, use it, go to sleep, use it for another, and toss it on the charger when I go to bed. I average about 3-4 hours screen on time each day, mostly spent responding to texts, surfing the web, facebook, google +, and taking pictures of neat stuff I see and think I can use in a web design.
I didn't screen capture it, but last night when I put my Turbo on the charger I still had 24% left, with just over 6 hours of SOT, and nearly 38 hours on battery. Now, I sold cellphones for 6 years, and would consider myself a little above average in my usage based on my personal experience and observations. I would classify most of the folk on here as heavy users.
For me, this phone is about giving us a power house of a device, with a battery to match. I didn't buy into the marketing claims. My expectation was enough battery to get me through a full day. So far, the phone has exceeded my expectations by two fold.
I fully expect future updates to improve battery life even more, especially as Motorola improves their firmware for the 805 chipset, QHD displays, and the new radio chip. As well, KitKat has never been very good at handling idle background apps, so Lollipop should bring a pretty big boost in those regards as well (although, I am only seeing .5% idle drain an hour over night, which is not great, but is better than many others I have seen).
In conclusion, for those still reading, the battery life is solid in my experience. With a few setup tweaks, it is the best I have ever experienced on a smartphone since the old school Blackberry days.
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I have to say that I'm really pleased with your writing, I'm planning to buy this phone (Moto Maxx) next week and I have spend many hours reading through the forums about the good and bad things, among all the threads and complains.
I think that most of the things that are annoying people would be fixed easily by software, and moreover, Lollipop is ready for release for most of Moto devices and soak tests were made, but Motorola is just waiting to the global release.
I'm just a normal user, if I receive 2-3 mails by day is a lot, some chats, almost no calls and no social networks most of the time, but I'm behind the Moto suite goodies and the battery life, and I think this phone would give me that.
Thanks for sharing.
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Nexus 6P - Bad SOT

Hey guys, I'm very new to XDA but I really hope someone can help me out. I'm a nexus fan and its just the best but I bought the nexus 6P thinking that I'm going to get around 6 Hours SOT considering I used to get around 4 with my N5 with the same level of usage. I want to know what I'm doing wrong or if I'm overlooking something.
Let me tell you about my phone and how I use it.
I have Elemental X + Pure nexus installed
Elemental x settings are on Ghost Pepper and I put CPU governmer on ' ondemand '
• I don't have Facebook and Messenger installed (These two were some SERIOUSS battery hoggers )
• I use google chrome push notifications as a replacement
• I use snapchat but not very excessively
• Turned off all gestures as i never used them
• Adaptive display is off
• Ambient display is off
• Notification Lights are off
• GOOGLE automatically syncs everything at anytime but other than that i manually sync whatsapp
• Location is always off except at rare times
• I use bluetooth to connect to my car to play music for an hour daily.
• Brightness is at 30-60% for 3/5th the day, 2/5th of the time it's lower than 30%.
• LTE is on for aboutt 4-5 hours a day and the rest is on WIFI.
Furthermore, I use my laptop more than my phone so I'm constantly picking up my phone and am not allowing it to fall into deep sleep for a good amount of time except at night or when im playing some serious CSGO; I noticed that its during the screen off time where I'm losing so much battery.
Now after reading all of this, do you still think I deserve to get that much screen on time?
Is there some setting I have missed out or is it the kernel + rom combination, I am really frustrated. This phone is magical but the battery is just so disappointing, I want at least 5 hours on screen time (I just barely reach 4 hours SOT)
Oh and let me further explain how the battery dies. Usually I'll be browsing facebook or 9gag and using snapchat and lets say its at 90%, it wont budge for 10 minutes or even more regardless of how heavily I use it. But the moment I turn the screen off and turn it back on, woooshh I'll lose 1%, and when I start using it again, another percent drops instantly. This is just seriously irritating and I have no clue as to what I need to do.
Thank you for any help!

No one I've ever read of gets 6 hours of screen time on this device. Between 4.5-5+ is pretty typical.

Playing music while the screen is off will have a pretty big impact on sot, especially if it's playing via the phones speakers. I know that has a big impact on my sot. There are some screenshots on here of 6 hours sot, but I suspect they set the screen timeout very high while leaving the device inactive. 4 hours is the average sot on this device from my experience.

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Hey guys, I'm very new to XDA but I really hope someone can help me out. I'm a nexus fan and its just the best but I bought the nexus 6P thinking that I'm going to get around 6 Hours SOT considering I used to get around 4 with my N5 with the same level of usage. I want to know what I'm doing wrong or if I'm overlooking something.
Let me tell you about my phone and how I use it.
I have Elemental X + Pure nexus installed
Elemental x settings are on Ghost Pepper and I put CPU governmer on ' ondemand '
• I don't have Facebook and Messenger installed (These two were some SERIOUSS battery hoggers )
• I use google chrome push notifications as a replacement
• I use snapchat but not very excessively
• Turned off all gestures as i never used them
• Adaptive display is off
• Ambient display is off
• Notification Lights are off
• GOOGLE automatically syncs everything at anytime but other than that i manually sync whatsapp
• Location is always off except at rare times
• I use bluetooth to connect to my car to play music for an hour daily.
• Brightness is at 30-60% for 3/5th the day, 2/5th of the time it's lower than 30%.
• LTE is on for aboutt 4-5 hours a day and the rest is on WIFI.
Furthermore, I use my laptop more than my phone so I'm constantly picking up my phone and am not allowing it to fall into deep sleep for a good amount of time except at night or when im playing some serious CSGO; I noticed that its during the screen off time where I'm losing so much battery.
Now after reading all of this, do you still think I deserve to get that much screen on time?
Is there some setting I have missed out or is it the kernel + rom combination, I am really frustrated. This phone is magical but the battery is just so disappointing, I want at least 5 hours on screen time (I just barely reach 4 hours SOT)
Oh and let me further explain how the battery dies. Usually I'll be browsing facebook or 9gag and using snapchat and lets say its at 90%, it wont budge for 10 minutes or even more regardless of how heavily I use it. But the moment I turn the screen off and turn it back on, woooshh I'll lose 1%, and when I start using it again, another percent drops instantly. This is just seriously irritating and I have no clue as to what I need to do.
Thank you for any help!
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GhostPepper is meant to run on interactive governor not ondemand. Disable TouchBoost under CPU in EXKM.
As for the rest I can't comment because you use the phone differently than mine.

I came to understand that phones are different from each other. Some have 5-8 hours of SOT and some have 3-5 hours SOT. Usage is different from each person and phone.

I would agree with several of the others that SoT is more typically 4-5 hours...I use my phone pretty heavily so I'm probably toward the shorter end of that, but even with a somewhat degraded battery (70% according to accubattery) I can still get 3 or at least close. Now granted I was only getting 1-1.5 but I went through and wiped my phone, heavily limiting the number of apps I had installed (I had a ton), and reducing the number of Google apps and services (now, etc.) that I used. Other than that just a couple minor kernel tweaks (hawktail6p profile, disable touchboost, disable zram, etc. not even sure on that last one lol)...anyways getting much better battery afterwards.

I get 2 hours of sot. My phone is about a year-and-a-half old.
I have tried all sorts of ROMs and different kernels and every tweet you can think of to try to extend my battery life. But nothing works. I'm going to have to just get a different phone soon.

choder said:
I get 2 hours of sot. My phone is about a year-and-a-half old.
I have tried all sorts of ROMs and different kernels and every tweet you can think of to try to extend my battery life. But nothing works. I'm going to have to just get a different phone soon.
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Choder...I have also had my Nexus 6P since the first week it was released. I also was getting horrible battery life and I decided to order a new battery and replace it. I can tell you that my factory battery over almost a year and 3 months, had degraded horribly.
Remember when you first got it charged it up to full, the battery percentage would read 100 percent for almost a half hour BEFORE dropping. Well, it's like that again with this new battery I ordered off of ebay. Routinely getting between 5 and 6 hours SOT. I don't use my device for games, so its browsing, youtube, checking email and messages throughout the day. Don't get a new phone...spend the 13 bucks on a new battery and save the cash.

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Choder...I have also had my Nexus 6P since the first week it was released. I also was getting horrible battery life and I decided to order a new battery and replace it. I can tell you that my factory battery over almost a year and 3 months, had degraded horribly.
Remember when you first got it charged it up to full, the battery percentage would read 100 percent for almost a half hour BEFORE dropping. Well, it's like that again with this new battery I ordered off of ebay. Routinely getting between 5 and 6 hours SOT. I don't use my device for games, so its browsing, youtube, checking email and messages throughout the day. Don't get a new phone...spend the 13 bucks on a new battery and save the cash.
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i've seen the DIY battery replacement video on youtube. Looks difficult IMO. what did you think? Have you ever done anything like that before? really interested in trying but intimidated and don't want to bork my phone....

I am getting 2.5h SOT....any governor, any kernel, any ROM....just a bad device to buy for a good battery life.
I mean, it's frickin huge!! Of course you should expect 4h...but 2.5h cmon....I swear of God there is something wrong with Android...my phone turns off at 35% saying Power (0%) Shutting down...WTF?!?

mihovil13 said:
I am getting 2.5h SOT....any governor, any kernel, any ROM....just a bad device to buy for a good battery life.
I mean, it's frickin huge!! Of course you should expect 4h...but 2.5h cmon....I swear of God there is something wrong with Android...my phone turns off at 35% saying Power (0%) Shutting down...WTF?!?
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That shutdown at 30% is a known issue. You should RMA your phone. Huawei extended the warranty at least through the end of this month.
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jt1998 said:
i've seen the DIY battery replacement video on youtube. Looks difficult IMO. what did you think? Have you ever done anything like that before? really interested in trying but intimidated and don't want to bork my phone....
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If you find DIY intimidating you can always get a quote from a phone repair place. It would be cheaper than getting a new phone but you have to do some extreme things to get long battery life out of the 6P because the phone wasn't really made that way. Rooting, using a kernel tuned for battery savings (which will likely affect the performance of the phone) and using Naptime (which puts the phone into Doze as soon as the screen goes off) will all increase overall battery life.

jt1998 said:
i've seen the DIY battery replacement video on youtube. Looks difficult IMO. what did you think? Have you ever done anything like that before? really interested in trying but intimidated and don't want to bork my phone....
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It's not as difficult as it looks. Just make sure you have the proper tools. A heat gun, the hobby knife to fit between the aluminum body and the plastic screen housing.
Once you get the separation you can use a guitar pick to undo the clips around the edges of the 6p. Just take your time.

hh11bbaacchh11 said:
I came to understand that phones are different from each other. Some have 5-8 hours of SOT and some have 3-5 hours SOT. Usage is different from each person and phone.
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I've never seen over 5 hrs
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA Labs

Nothex said:
I've never seen over 5 hrs
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA Labs
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So you haven't seen all. I can use my phone and get 6 to 7h SOT (check here on XDA and you will see a lot of people achieving the same). Places where LTE is very bad combined with Google services trying to sync whatever is the biggest drainer here that can bring me down to 4h.

rchtk said:
So you haven't seen all. I can use my phone and get 6 to 7h SOT (check here on XDA and you will see a lot of people achieving the same). Places where LTE is very bad combined with Google services trying to sync whatever is the biggest drainer here that can bring me down to 4h.
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We'll I average 6:41 sot based on gsam averages. My phone rarely gets below 50-55% before I'm charging that night (9am-12am) the last time I was at 50% was a could days ago and was at 3:40 sot. The biggest thing I do is on any rom or kernel...
First is turn off all the sync under Google. That means contacts, calendar... Everything. No reason to let all the stuff just sync all day long. If I add a contract I go in account, Google and sync my contacts. The next thing I do is turn off all the background data syncing under data usage, cellular data usage for apps that need not sync. I leave days syncing for things like Google app, text apps browser, things your need to sync. Put location to battery saving unless I need high accuracy.
That's it, it's not rocket science, of you're still getting bad sot, your phone is likely with bad signal, not sleeping from a rouge app or maybe the battery is degraded a lot. If you're getting the shutdown issue, then RMA your phone, that's a bad bug.

In my case I was talking about sync under 'backup and reinit'. Having to switch off normal google sync would be a bit of a hassle. I use gmail (which is crap but haven't reconnected k9mail yet) and more important i use keep to share stuffs. I prefer sync over sot and I anyway reach a day.
But in my case, believe me, the root cause is bad gapps sync when having atrocious 3G (LTE little less draining) which is half of my day.
At home data connection is OK and I can get past 6h as I said. My device is only 6 months old. I have an estimated capacity of 3440mAh.

Stock QC2 Firmware - Battery tips?

Hi Friends,
Just wonder if this is normal for this phone, or you guys could give me some pointers for extending my battery life, specifically the Screen On Time?
I have:
- Stock QC2 firmware - I believe this is Nougat with the March security patch
- No Facebook installed (Disabled)
- I am on data about 8 hours a day, rest is WiFi, Bluetooth for my Watch, and NFC is off
- Generally use a black and red theme
- Doing Ad blocking with the AdClear VPN solution
- Sometimes I make conference calls of under 2 hours
- No games, no YouTube watching
With this set I can barely manage like 3 hours of SOT. Is this normal? What am I doing wrong? Any pointers? Thanks!

3 hours SOT is not normal for unrooted stock. I would suggest downloading GSam Battery Monitor and finding out what is hogging the battery. Note that you will need to manually enable the battery statistics permission with ADB for some reason, but after that it will work like normal.
The top two lines should be Android System and Kernel. If you see any non-system app in the vicinity, that is your likely culprit unless you can explain it with normal usage (for example, Firefox is at the top of the list on mine because I surf the web with it)
Alternately, if nothing odd shows up, you may have a bad battery.

The other thing you might take a look at is shutting off the Location setting that scans Wifi/Bluetooth. That is a massive battery killer

Thank you for the helpful responses guys! I'll try GSam Battery stuff... What are your SOTs BTW?
Thanks!

Also my vibration is always on, my back lit keys are always on, and a 30 second screen timeout time, if it helps? Thanks!

Finally, this is the AT&T model with all the bloat disabled.

I'm typically off charge 18 hours and on data the entire time. I do run a Exchange email app that pushes email, my SOT isn't really huge, maybe around 2-3 hours and I also have BT always on and connected to my S3 Frontier. At the end of my day, I end up with with battery around 50% ish.........
Did you recently update, or did you do a clean install? Sometimes the battery can take a few days to settle in

kangi26 said:
I'm typically off charge 18 hours and on data the entire time. I do run a Exchange email app that pushes email, my SOT isn't really huge, maybe around 2-3 hours and I also have BT always on and connected to my S3 Frontier. At the end of my day, I end up with with battery around 50% ish.........
Did you recently update, or did you do a clean install? Sometimes the battery can take a few days to settle in
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That's pretty amazing! Yes, clean install and updated from MM to Nougat and then the latest patch.
I've got a battery monitoring app installed now... Let's see what it unveils... I'm thinking maybe it's my settings, syncing and etc, cause I NEVER get the SOTs people report on XDA LOL, on any phone really except the Mate 9 I had...

ProFragger said:
That's pretty amazing! Yes, clean install and updated from MM to Nougat and then the latest patch.
I've got a battery monitoring app installed now... Let's see what it unveils... I'm thinking maybe it's my settings, syncing and etc, cause I NEVER get the SOTs people report on XDA LOL, on any phone really except the Mate 9 I had...
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I'd give it a few days to settle in.
Battery life is SO subjective. The app's installed and the person's usage habits play a massive part in battery life, and you saying that you never get what others are, speak a lot to that.
The built in optimizers in Nougat seem to do a pretty good job at putting unused battery sucking apps to sleep.

ProFragger said:
Hi Friends,
Just wonder if this is normal for this phone, or you guys could give me some pointers for extending my battery life, specifically the Screen On Time?
I have:
- Stock QC2 firmware - I believe this is Nougat with the March security patch
- No Facebook installed (Disabled)
- I am on data about 8 hours a day, rest is WiFi, Bluetooth for my Watch, and NFC is off
- Generally use a black and red theme
- Doing Ad blocking with the AdClear VPN solution
- Sometimes I make conference calls of under 2 hours
- No games, no YouTube watching
With this set I can barely manage like 3 hours of SOT. Is this normal? What am I doing wrong? Any pointers? Thanks!
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I notice one thing, when i connect my Gear 2 by bluetooth battery on phone less about 10-15% less. With out watch and no FB and FB messenger, NFC on, most of day on data, wifi off, 5-6 hours call ( do to nature of my job) i get around 3.5 hours SOT.
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kangi26 said:
I'd give it a few days to settle in.
Battery life is SO subjective. The app's installed and the person's usage habits play a massive part in battery life, and you saying that you never get what others are, speak a lot to that.
The built in optimizers in Nougat seem to do a pretty good job at putting unused battery sucking apps to sleep.
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I agree bud, so I think my usage pattern must be horrible, cause from the earliest Androids like Droid Incredible to Axon 7 and S7 Edge and others, I never get what people mention. And some of their claimed usage is ridiculous, they say they play games all day, LTE, Videos and still get like 5 hours or etc... Boggles my mind. My biggest battery hog I suspect is my VPN based AdGuard, maybe the vibration, but compared to gaming and etc, they sound so insignificant.
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I notice one thing, when i connect my Gear 2 by bluetooth battery on phone less about 10-15% less. With out watch and no FB and FB messenger, NFC on, most of day on data, wifi off, 5-6 hours call ( do to nature of my job) i get around 3.5 hours SOT.
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Yeah, that's more like my usage. Without my Watch, this may be the case. I don't use NFC. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

jshamlet said:
3 hours SOT is not normal for unrooted stock. I would suggest downloading GSam Battery Monitor and finding out what is hogging the battery. Note that you will need to manually enable the battery statistics permission with ADB for some reason, but after that it will work like normal.
The top two lines should be Android System and Kernel. If you see any non-system app in the vicinity, that is your likely culprit unless you can explain it with normal usage (for example, Firefox is at the top of the list on mine because I surf the web with it)
Alternately, if nothing odd shows up, you may have a bad battery.
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This is a actually normal for USA SAMSUNG battery which is why no1 should get Galaxy S7 on USA carriers battery is even 100 maH smaller at 3500. Battery is always crap usa versions. And I am stuck in them nougat is bad for battery nothing you can do but downgrade to Android 6.0.1 with Odin. Best battery I can upload a vid for proof att Samsung S7 edge battery sucks and so will all USA carriers s8 never buying Samsung again GG. Switch phones best option iPhones have best battery but I hate them. I'd go for a phone with biggest mAh in specs and read reviews for battery. If downgrading doesn't work sorry for all Samsung lovers who read this it's just fact if you actually compare USA version to international. Battery on international is 92 ish hours not even close on USA version +1 sorry for my rant. Second best option I went to zero lemon and got a battery charging case that was like 10000 something maH and I never loose battery because I keep case on entire time makes phone weigh 4 pounds tho

BaconSeeds said:
This is a actually normal for USA SAMSUNG battery which is why no1 should get Galaxy S7 on USA carriers battery is even 100 maH smaller at 3500. Battery is always crap usa versions. And I am stuck in them nougat is bad for battery nothing you can do but downgrade to Android 6.0.1 with Odin. Best battery I can upload a vid for proof att Samsung S7 edge battery sucks and so will all USA carriers s8 never buying Samsung again GG. Switch phones best option iPhones have best battery but I hate them. I'd go for a phone with biggest mAh in specs and read reviews for battery. If downgrading doesn't work sorry for all Samsung lovers who read this it's just fact if you actually compare USA version to international. Battery on international is 92 ish hours not even close on USA version +1 sorry for my rant. Second best option I went to zero lemon and got a battery charging case that was like 10000 something maH and I never loose battery because I keep case on entire time makes phone weigh 4 pounds tho
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts, bud, I think I would agree, this must be reality. An update for me, seems like getting rid of the VPN based Adblocker has helped battery. Last night, I finally got 4 hours SOT, but that was with the VPN app. Trying without it all day, let's see how it goes.
BTW, hands down, the best battery I have ever seen in the US is on the Huawei Mate 9, even on Nougat. The HUGE battery helps, but legitimately, I was getting 7 hours of SOT.
Thanks guys!

Got the attached SOT after turning off the VPN based ad blocker and using it as needed, rather than on the whole time... Is this closer to normal? ?

I only get 3-4hrs SOT but it is connected to my huawei watch and music is playing when it connects to my bluetooth fm transmitter in my car. I also usually have it plugged in while driving. The best battery life SOT I've seen is on the moto z play. My sister has that phone and she got almost 9hrs SOT. Usually gets at least 7. Someone got over 10.

Screen on time

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Battery life on this phone is amazing.
Since it has the same 2700mAh battery as its bigger brother, it can easily last 2 days of average usage.
I'm currently typing this at 7pm, and my phone is at 71% battery, while I've been up since 8:30am

Checked the battery monitor on hidden menu and it states 2800mah (my currently battery % is 80)
how much you guys have?

profyler said:
Checked the battery monitor on hidden menu and it states 2800mah (my currently battery % is 80)
how much you guys have?
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2820mAh according to the service menu battery test, not bad.

Are you guys using Stamina mode? I am new to the Xperia phones and the XZ1 Compact is a first for me. I came to it from a Google Pixel because I wanted a smaller phone for better one-handed use and better battery life. So far, I'm not seeing much increase over the Pixel with my usual usage. I have only had it for a few days and have been ending the day around 30-35%. Phone idle and Google Play Services seem to utilize the most battery and my typical screen time in a day is around 1:45-2:00 hours.

I set stamina to kick in at 15%
I haven't reached that point yet, right now I have 25% remaining and already have 6.5 h of sot. I didn't do anything too demanding, but half the day the signal was rather bad, so in the end I gotta say this thing is a beast.

Not using stamina. Didnt like the lag on screen when stamina was on. on android is pretty good now with disabling apps on background...
i usually have 5 hours screen...

j-san said:
Are you guys using Stamina mode? I am new to the Xperia phones and the XZ1 Compact is a first for me. I came to it from a Google Pixel because I wanted a smaller phone for better one-handed use and better battery life. So far, I'm not seeing much increase over the Pixel with my usual usage. I have only had it for a few days and have been ending the day around 30-35%. Phone idle and Google Play Services seem to utilize the most battery and my typical screen time in a day is around 1:45-2:00 hours.
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Modern Stamina is completely different from the original Stamina, which was awesome. Back in the golden days, it was actually able to effectively extended battery life without sacrificing overall performance.
With the introduction of Marshmallow however, Stamina essentially "broke" - there were overlapping conflicts with MM's new Doze feature, which in theory aimed to conserve battery in ways similar to Stamina but in reality didn't quite live up to its promise.
Since Doze is baked in to the OS and pretty much here to stay, Sony decided to kill off Stamina with the first few MM firmware releases.
It was eventually resurrected, but it has never been the same again. You can say that only the name lived on, under the hood it's two entirely different things.
Now that history lesson is over, back to your question. Stamina on the XZ1 Compact is just a combination of trivial battery saving tricks that may or may not actually save a significant amount of battery life.
The description in Stamina mode details the biggest battery eating features that Stamina disables, if you don't actively use any of them during normal use, it's likely that Stamina won't be of much help in conserving battery for you.
You'll probably save more battery by dimming your screen or disabling ambient light sensor.
Ultra Stamina basically turns your smartphone into a dumbphone to squeeze as much life as possible out of the remaining battery. Unless you're away from a charger for a long time and you absolutely need to make a phone call or text or whatever before you can plug it in, don't use this mode, it's horrid.

Thanks for the brief history lesson! I did notice Stamina mode left some to be desired with scrolling, primarily. After messing around with some settings and putting the screen to a dimmer level, I seem to be getting better battery life. Perhaps it has to do with a new phone and the software and battery need to "learn" each other? As it is, the XZ1C is already longer lived than my Pixel, which typically needed to be plugged in at least once to make it through the day. Honestly, I'd take a thicker phone with larger battery. A wafer-thin phone with the latest tech is useless if the battery is dead.

I use stamina the whole time. I've found the bottom stamina preset is the best for scrolling. It's barely noticeable over non-stamina. Also, I've disabled background data and set location to GPS only. I get about 8-9hrs of SOT.

This phone is a bit unpredictable. I was pleasantly surprised by the improved battery life earlier in the week, and now it barely lasts through my usual 16 hour day before getting into the red. This past Saturday and Sunday, I had about 4 hours screen time and the phone made it through my day with 43% left in the battery. Monday I got about 3 hours screen time and finished with just over 20%, and yesterday I wrapped up with 7% and only used it for 1:45 screen time. I haven't done anything differently or installed any new apps. The reception is a little worse at my office is than at the school where I teach part-time, but I don't think that should make a 30% difference in battery life. I still get full bars WiFi and 2-3 bars LTE, where at the school LTE is usually 4-5 bars. Funny thing is, I about double my screen time at the teaching job since students don't always need me so I'm browsing on my phone. At my office, I'm usually busy and don't touch the phone much at all, but these past two days I'm practically watching the percentage drop. Today, I'm off the plug for about 2.5 hours and already down to 86% with 5 minutes screen-on time.
I'm thinking there must be some background app or process running that is killing the battery, but the app usage shows "phone idle" as the highest power drain, followed by Google Play Services. I often like to keep the more "core" apps running in the background so they can pull updates, notifications, etc. so I don't have to constantly be pushing the phone to do them manually.

easyc said:
I use stamina the whole time. I've found the bottom stamina preset is the best for scrolling. It's barely noticeable over non-stamina. Also, I've disabled background data and set location to GPS only. I get about 8-9hrs of SOT.
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I agree but still dont use this... scrolling with stamina is not that smooth like with stamin off.

profyler said:
I agree but still dont use this... scrolling with stamina is not that smooth like with stamin off.
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Maybe I should try stamina off with background sync disabled. The scrolling is smooth, but it feels like the display refresh is only 30fps, which still bothers my eyes.

Just surfing reddit and listen to Spotify. Wifi and bt 100% on.

Wow. 2 days of standby and 10 hours of screen usage?? How did you manage that? I'm happy with just one full day when I don't have to plug in. I've already turned off most location services and updates, leaving just essentials like e-mail and weather still on. I also used to have a live wallpaper, which has now been changed to a static photo.

I have uninstalled all Google apps besides: Gmail, Calendar and Keep.
I have uninstalled all the bloat experia apps including swift key. (see thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz1-compact/help/managed-to-hide-whats-app-root-t3681393)
I use a black wallpaper and also night-mode in chromium swe browser.
I have turned off 4G/LTE since it sux in Sweden. Use only 2G/3G+Wifi.
I use dns66 for Adblock.
I have no audio/video enhancements on.
I have set auto brightness to off (low light auto brightness sux on xz1c)
I use Pebble 2SE which uses BTLE (LowEnergy)

Perhaps a bit off topic, however I would like to know how is the auto brightness feature on this phone.
I have a soon-to-be-dead Z3 compact and I used Lux auto brightness on it since the stock one basically didn't do anything.

Sydrox said:
Perhaps a bit off topic, however I would like to know how is the auto brightness feature on this phone.
I have a soon-to-be-dead Z3 compact and I used Lux auto brightness on it since the stock one basically didn't do anything.
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The auto brightness on this phone works well, even too well. Sometimes in certain environment, a little tilt on the phone will cause the brightness to adjust immediately. I would say it is the most sensitive auto brightness in all phones I've used this far.

Almost 3 days with 7+ hours of screen on time

Guys this phone battery is amazing! I use my smartphone for public relations so i always use whatsapp, instagram etc... I wake up around 8-9 and don't have any problems the whole day.. gps on everywhere, google apps on, data on all time, use some spotify too and don't remember what else. I wouldn't change it for anything and would suggest you to buy it. Gj SONY.