I bought the s8 today from a parallel imported store. I know oreo is a major update, but for my phone it's going to take over 5 hours. My internet speeds are fine and browsing/videos are all perfectly fast on my phone - it's just this update which is slow as a snail. The pic of this is below.
https://imgur.com/a/vye3o
With my other question, I wanted to ask about a feature from the "Phone INFO samsung" app. The s8 is my first Samsung parallel imported phone, so I used the app to check if it's refurbished or not, and the app confirms it's a brand new phone thankfully. The IMEI and serial numbers all match with the box too.
I noticed however that under usage history, the battery discharge cycle number was already 2. Possibly a stupid question, but is that normal for a brand new phone? Before I installed the app, the only charging I'd done was from 44% (the % the phone came out of the box as) up to around 75%.
https://imgur.com/a/Pick8
Appreciate any answers you guys have, thanks!
**EDIT: The update might not actually be Oreo since my phone was only 7.0 before the download, the size is only 500mb - I've had someone tell me that their oreo update was 1.5gb. The issue still stands that the download is incredibly slow!
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I believe my phone was originally a Telstra carrier phone that has been unlocked, since I see the Telstra logo whenever I boot up my phone. I'm not sure if this has any relevance to the fact that when I go into Settings > Software Update, I only see the following two options:
"Download updates manually" "Scheduled software updates"
On all my friends galaxy s8's, in addition to the above settings, there is also a "Download updates automatically" and a "Last update information" section. I wonder if this has anything to do with my issue?
It is normal because every device is being charged and stressed out battery test when in production.
Also, based on your screenshot it is not OREO yet. Oreo update is 1.5GB, 500mb would just be security patches and stability update.
5 hours definitely seems odd, especially if that update is only a third of the size of the Oreo update. Oreo took about 5-10 mins to download, and then maybe 20 minutes to install on my Verizon phone.
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This morning Kies was telling me my device could not be updated, but I happened to check this evening and a new notification appeared saying that the JM1 update mentioned in a previous thread was now available - I was on the stock O2UK JF1.
Having installed the update, the GPS button in the pull down task bar is a new thing plus the new Samsung task manager, although these have been mentioned in the other thread already. The task amanger shows how much RAM you've used out of 326MB, but early signs are that it's no more efficient in freeing up RAM than was the situation on the JF1 ROM I had previously. Still I'll see how things go tomorrow. Having said that, the task manager widget is quite nice.
The Samsung App store also seems to be working now, as it kept giving me error messages on the old ROM. There's a 70MB full and free version of Asphalt on there which I'll download tomorrow. Another definite improvement is the music player, which previously couldn't handle the 1000+ artists in my digital audio collection. In fact it used to force itself to close when I pressed 'Artists' before. Now it's listing all the artists and grouping all albums/tunes for each artist correctly.
Apart from that I haven't noticed anything else so far, although the phone's reception might be a bit better, but I can't confirm that yet.
hi are you on O2 contract?
emclondon said:
hi are you on O2 contract?
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Yeah, I'm on a full 24 month contract with O2UK, and I bought the phone directly from them.
As an update to what I said at the start of this thread, I now realise I had test mode activated when I used Kies to update my phone, so this may not have been an 'official' O2UK update after all. It seems test mode doesn't turn off when you close Kies: CTRL+U+P is in fact an on/off toggle for test mode. Nonetheless, the JM1 update I got has all the O2 stuff I had before and settings, so I would definitely recommend it to anyone who's on an O2UK contract with an older stock ROM as it's better for all the reasons I mentioned previously.
I've also noticed that the new stock task manager in the Kies JM1 update doesn't seem to allow the phone's RAM to drop below approx 50MB (or 275MB/326MB). On my previous stock JF1, Advance Task Killer often showed that free RAM had got down to approx 30MB on some occasions, which was when things really started getting noticeably laggy. Now when I leave open 10+ applications, the RAM used won't go beyond 275MB/326MB, which suggests the system is closing background application/services automatically at around this mark to maintain performance. I might be wrong on this, but so far I haven't seen the same lag issues I had before with black screens lasting 5 seconds or more, but others might need to confirm that
The only thing I don't quite understand is what the coloured green/yellow bar is for in the new Program Monitor widget, although the active applications count in this widget is really useful.
Coloured yellow/green bar shows that there is no battery draining app is running at the moment. It will change the colour if there is one or more battery hungry apps are running.
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could anyone post the firmware with the option to flash it via odin please?
i just upgraded to this jm1 from stock jf1 i had to also do it in test mode as it wouldnt allow me to update otherwise
i have since used gps test and it locked on to sats much quicker and also more of them this was also done whilst indoors
so i dont if this update helps gps.
i dont know how to full test the gps but if someone gives me a how to i will post the results.
so you all to decifer
but it seems better to me with this update.
good stuff!!!!
endisforever said:
i just upgraded to this jm1 from stock jf1 i had to also do it in test mode as it wouldnt allow me to update otherwise.
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Same here, mine came up with the "this phone cannot be updated" crap. I'm still going to install the lag fix though, it made a huge difference with the jf1 firmware.
I have a few questions concerning my newly acquired Note 3.
1) The device came running with 4.3. Is it worth updating it to kitkat 4.4.2 or should I just stay on 4.3 and what are the benefits of updating? I still have a few days to exchange out my device if anything should happen so if its worth getting kitkat and it I encounter problems, no big deal.
2) What is the average on screen time for a non rooted device?
I am only getting close to 4 hours of on screen time although the device lasts about a full day. I've seen some reported times of 6 hours which is incredible. I've already put brightness to 50%, turned off many of the apps I don't use, and tweaked many settings for better battery life, but still only get 4 hours on screen time.
3) I get a notification titled "Preventative information" which goes on to state "an application has been forced to stop for an unauthorized attempt to access system in your device." After playing around with it I figured out it had something to do with the knox app. I turned that off and it resolved the constant notification. Is this ok to do?
I appreciate the responses in advance.
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I have a few questions concerning my newly acquired Note 3.
1) The device came running with 4.3. Is it worth updating it to kitkat 4.4.2 or should I just stay on 4.3 and what are the benefits of updating? I still have a few days to exchange out my device if anything should happen so if its worth getting kitkat and it I encounter problems, no big deal.
2) What is the average on screen time for a non rooted device?
I am only getting close to 4 hours of on screen time although the device lasts about a full day. I've seen some reported times of 6 hours which is incredible. I've already put brightness to 50%, turned off many of the apps I don't use, and tweaked many settings for better battery life, but still only get 4 hours on screen time.
3) I get a notification titled "Preventative information" which goes on to state "an application has been forced to stop for an unauthorized attempt to access system in your device." After playing around with it I figured out it had something to do with the knox app. I turned that off and it resolved the constant notification. Is this ok to do?
I appreciate the responses in advance.
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1) I got my device on Feb 2014 and it was a recent manufactured and came with stock Kitkat. So 1st I will advice to check the manufacturing date, these days Note 3 doesn’t comes with Jellybean anymore. I will advice definitely you should upgrade it to 4.4.2, updated version always better than previous one, increase stability and security and functional upgrades. However clearly don’t know about the difference between Jellybean and Kitkat but there is few new added features and visual changes.
If you can exchange with a more recent manufactured one which comes with stock Kitkat that is much much better. As many user after upgrading from 4.3 to 4.4 facing many issues.
If you don’t exchange and upgrade the same phone, after upgrade hard reset your phone from boot menu. Not from setting factory reset. (I didn’t do this as mine comes with stock kitkat but I read many user recommend this to avoid issues after upgrading.
Only drawback on Kitkat I found it doesn’t let non-stock apps to write data in external Sd card.
2) I never tested the constant screen time but 4 hours looks way too low. However in this phone the screen takes the most of the battery as its large. So I think it would give around 6hours on screen. Mine give one and half day for an average use after full charge.
Edit: you can set the brightness to 40% as mine is enough at this. Also better if you use auto brightness, but I found it very low at indoor.
3) sorry no idea, didn’t see this notification so far.
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... I still have a few days to exchange out my device if anything should happen ..
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Take this chance to test your device by installing 'Phone INFO ★Samsung★' app and select Menu --> 'Refurbishment Check'
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Take this chance to test your device by installing 'Phone INFO ★Samsung★' app and select Menu --> e'Refurbishment Check'
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I just installed that app and tried what you said but can't get the serial number. There's no serial number behind the battery or on the box so I tried all the other numbers like HEX, DEC, IMEI but none work. However I did notice that after a message pops up that says invalid number, it says that the device is refurbished. Not sure if its correct or not because it then says my serial number is 000000000.
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I just installed that app and tried what you said but can't get the serial number. There's no serial number behind the battery or on the box so I tried all the other numbers like HEX, DEC, IMEI but none work. However I did notice that after a message pops up that says invalid number, it says that the device is refurbished. Not sure if its correct or not because it then says my serial number is 000000000.
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1- There should be the S/N on the back plate of the phone, under the battery. Please double check, or can you show (or PM me) the picture of the back of the phone (after removing the battery)?
2- Anyway you can skip the S/N check by pressing the Skip button.
3- If you still get the refurbished result by skipping the S/N check, you can post all screenshots from the app (or PM me) for more investigations.
I will tell you if your phone has any issue with the refurbishment.
How can you even avoid updating your phone? I got my T Mobile phone yesterday and before I could finish creating my Google account, Android restarted the phone in Odin and installed an update. I am still on 5.0.1 but I do not want any more updates. I actually wanna see how Kit Kat runs because my phone's battery sucks, granted I still have to work out battery life tricks and read up on stuff, but I find it ridiculous that I need to put my phone on power saving mode off the bat to get it to last till 5 Pm with moderate use...very moderate use. I don't even play games. And I've heard horror stories of reverting back to Kit Kat so I'm scared that my 400 dollar phone will become useless if I try it
It just seems Samsung is out to sabotage the Note 4 family so we buy their crappy Note 5
Settings, about phone, software updates, automatic updates: off.
Even with this set on, you only get a message about an available update. You don't have to apply it. And Odin is a program on your PC, not your phone. When you do apply an available OTA update, the phone goes to recovery mode to perform the update.
Oh I meant recovery mode. I did not apply an update. The phone automatically updated itself. Are you sure this works? I have heard people say they got updates regardless of forcing their phones not to update
I've never had a phone force an update on me and I always have the above setting set to on. It would also really surprise me: what if you're waiting for an important call? Maybe during first installation it's different? In that case: skip the installation wizard, don't yet setup WiFi, and setup your Google account and WiFi later.
Too late for that. Are you on Lollipop? I haven't had time to start browsing for ROMs yet. Prbly won't for a while since I'm jumping straight from internship to school. Btw I actually have a Note Edge but I figure they essentially have the same Bloatwiz/Lagwiz stuff in them
Going to a newer OTA will not make your phone useless, thats just serious over-reaction. Im on BOG5, and am able to "debloat". I get more than a full day of battery, and that includes surfing the web, playing music, some games, and bluetooth on all the time (hooked up to my car).
Man I'm jealous. Tradeoff on getting the Edge. Not much ROM support.
Just found this article. Hopefully ATT and TMO are not far behind..
Folks rocking the Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 5 will want to be on the lookout for an OTA to hit their phone. It’s Nougat!
The update is coming in as version N920PVPU3DQC5, a 1.4GB affair. It’ll be receiving all of Nougat’s new features and those which Samsung are delivering as part of a big upgrade to TouchWiz. It may even make your phone feel brand new, though we aren’t promising anything. Oh, and its security patches are fairly up to speed with a March 1st, 2017 level.
Anyway, for such a massive file size you’ll want to make sure you’re on a WiFi connection and have a decently charged battery (let’s say more than 50% to be on the safe side) before attempting to pull it down. Head to the settings menu on your phone to look for it manually if it hasn’t already hit your notifications tray.
http://phandroid.com/2017/04/06/sprint-galaxy-note-5-nougat-update/
Downloaded yesterday and installed, everything works fine. Not sure if I like the settings page since it looks messy...Guess I will get use to it. Good thing I got 3gb back. One weird problem was when I click the "phone" shortcut it opened gallery...I have tried many times and it's the same thing. So I deleted it, drag a new shortcut of phone on home screen, worked fine.
Battery life about same, 8-9 hours normal daily use.
Hi, first post. I asked the question on another site some months back about deleting or stopping the install notification about the downloaded, although not installed Nougat update, no answers were forthcoming. My phone on 6.0.1 works great and I have no issues that warrant an upgrade. I have hardly any apps installed on it and really only use it for light internet, photos, the phone and GPS. I don’t really want to update it to Nougat due to some of the horror stories I have read. I am not (yet) very Android proficient.
Can I just leave the downloaded Nougat updated installed, but stop the daily notification to install it?
Or
Can I easily delete the downloaded but not installed Nougat update?
In this case I subscribe to the notion, if it isn’t broke don’t touch it. Maybe I am being too overly cautious.
Current details
Hardware: XT1642.
Version: 6.0.1
Build: MPJ24.139.23.4
Security Update: 1 May 2016
Any help steering me in the right direction is appreciated.
Cheers,
@CC2005
If you remove downloaded files, still it will not stop, then you will get notification for new update available and to download it.
Better if you update to latest version,
otherwise you need to restrict notification for moto updater app or data for it. (I don't remember correctly if those feature existed on MM, as the way it is present in N)
It looks as if I will have to just go ahead and install the OTA Nougat 7.0 update that has downloaded; as there doesn't seem to be a simple way of stopping the notification to install it. As mentioned, I didn't want to install Nougat as it works perfectly now on 6.01, maybe I am just worrying about nothing, obviously Nougat 7.0 doesn't stuff up all devices.
It is still in warranty so if an OTA update causes problems I may be able to return it?
Cheers
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It looks as if I will have to just go ahead and install the OTA Nougat 7.0 update that has downloaded; as there doesn't seem to be a simple way of stopping the notification to install it. As mentioned, I didn't want to install Nougat as it works perfectly now on 6.01, maybe I am just worrying about nothing, obviously Nougat 7.0 doesn't stuff up all devices.
It is still in warranty so if an OTA update causes problems I may be able to return it?
Cheers
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If there is any problems and if it's under warranty, you can surely take it to the service center.
As far as I know, if you get a replacement device, it will be updated to the latest version out of the box. So there is no way going back to MM.
If you still want to use MM, your only hope is custom ROMs.
You can't downgrade the official updates.
Nougat is not that bad. Most of us are waiting for Oreo and I am wondering how are you still on MM
Have a nice Day :good:
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If there is any problems and if it's under warranty, you can surely take it to the service center.
I am wondering how are you still on MM
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I have disabled most of the Motorola notifications "Motorola Update Services", "Motorola Notification" and one or two others. This sometimes prevents the "Install System Update" notification as long as I do not power it off, I put it to sleep by putting if face down. Although most of the time I have to delay the install manually by rescheduling the install time-pressing later etc when the message pops up.
I am a light user, and can get up to 8 days (rarely) usage out of a single charge, I have disabled a lot of Google & other Apps that I don't want to use, and turned off many Google Play Services. Lots of photos, calls and WiFi use I get 2-3 days use, so I am trying to keep the current OS. Also the works reasonably well in very hot weather taking photos and using the GPS-off line maps, it does at times get hot and can suffer camera issues and more so, GPS stuttering and lag above 35C-40+C but shade it from the sun and minimise use and it will work ok.
Cheers & have a great day too.
Ok, I've been operating with Nougat 7.0 for two months now. There are pros and cons and some of the cons I will adapt to as they are only preferences, minor setting and appearance.
My main concerns about the OS update were battery life and heating. Normal use, the battery drains a little quicker without WIFI or Sim data on, not enough to cause concern. But with WIFI and or sim data on, it definitely uses more battery power than before, almost at an average of 10%-15% more-not a scientific analysis. I am not a big data users so again not big concern. Although when using data, downloading, surfing etc, the battery rate depletes at a much quicker rate than before, I would estimate 30%-40% faster. I also notice the battery depletes much quicker when using the camera and the associated heat when using the camera feels (going by sense not measuring it) somewhat higher. The camera and video mode are the one that bother me and I forgot to mention, using offline maps, gps enabled (no WIFI or Sim data activated) the battery use is again higher than before.
So, I would have been better off on MM, yes, but it is what it is and I can work around the battery issue when I know my usage of those features will be heavy. A cheap pocket portable USB charger may need to be purchased.
I haven’t done a factory reset and I have only cleared the cache via settings app. Maybe the next step before a portable pocket USB charger is purchased.
Cheers