Hi all, I'm using ES File Explorer. Sometimes when I delete a file by using the Nexus 7 itself and afterwards plug it into my computer and I browse using Windows Explorer, the file that was supposedly deleted would still show up. Does anyone know why this is?
Jark89 said:
Hi all, I'm using ES File Explorer. Sometimes when I delete a file by using the Nexus 7 itself and afterwards plug it into my computer and I browse using Windows Explorer, the file that was supposedly deleted would still show up. Does anyone know why this is?
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I had a similar thing happen where I moved a bunch of files using the adb shell. The files were still accessible in the old directory in Windows, but didn't show in directory listings done on the N7.
opcow said:
I had a similar thing happen where I moved a bunch of files using the adb shell. The files were still accessible in the old directory in Windows, but didn't show in directory listings done on the N7.
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Were you also using ES File Explorer or a different app?
Because the Nexus uses MTP instead of USB Mass Storage, the Media scanner on the Nexus will need to periodically scan your device for changes in files/folders. It sucks because it will always show inconsistencies in Windows Explorer that don't match the file structure on the Nexus.
You can use the SDRescan app to force it to scan now, then Windows Explorer will correctly show files/folders you've changed.
Salty Wagyu said:
Because the Nexus uses MTP instead of USB Mass Storage, the Media scanner on the Nexus will need to periodically scan your device for changes in files/folders. It sucks because it will always show inconsistencies in Windows Explorer that don't match the file structure on the Nexus.
You can use the SDRescan app to force it to scan now, then Windows Explorer will correctly show files/folders you've changed.
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Thanks for the explanation! That clears it up for me. :good:
Hi, I downloaded a big iso file (say file x) on my nexus 4. weird thing is I can't see the file from my pc when I connect my phone to my pc. I can see the folders on my phone but can't see the folder (say folder f1) that contains the file..
Even more weird thing is when I moved some file in the f1 to a folder (say f2) using Astro file manager that can be seen from my pc. I can see the file in f2 on my phone, but it's not on my pc.
Then I renamed a file (file y) in f2 in Astro. Both fy and f2 can be seen on my pc. But on my pc I can't see the name of y changed.
In short what kind of changes I made to my files on my phone, nothing happens on my pc. I have unplugged the cable and repluggd it but the situation is still the same.
Also, I can create folder/file from pc and they can be seen from my phone.
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thotwielder said:
Hi, I downloaded a big iso file (say file x) on my nexus 4. weird thing is I can't see the file from my pc when I connect my phone to my pc. I can see the folders on my phone but can't see the folder (say folder f1) that contains the file..
Even more weird thing is when I moved some file in the f1 to a folder (say f2) using Astro file manager that can be seen from my pc. I can see the file in f2 on my phone, but it's not on my pc.
Then I renamed a file (file y) in f2 in Astro. Both fy and f2 can be seen on my pc. But on my pc I can't see the name of y changed.
In short what kind of changes I made to my files on my phone, nothing happens on my pc. I have unplugged the cable and repluggd it but the situation is still the same.
Also, I can create folder/file from pc and they can be seen from my phone.
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All right, it's suddenly just fine. No idea why.
Was going to say it could be due to the horrible MTP that Android now uses instead of Mass Storage.
MTP Limits large files from being transferred to and from the device.
(and only shows some folders, usually the basic Music, Downloads, Pictures, etc - and folders that were created on the device via the computer)
But since it just showed up, I have no clue...
I have no problems with MTP, all my folders and files show up on my pc. Can also transfer large video files without a problem. The size limitation by the way is 4GB.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ics-feature-mtp-what-it-why-use-it-and-how-set-it
Sometimes you may have to reboot the phone to be able to see the files. Works for me. After download some files I can't see them immediately, have to reboot phone then plug in and files will be there.
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kzoodroid said:
I have no problems with MTP, all my folders and files show up on my pc. Can also transfer large video files without a problem. The size limitation by the way is 4GB.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ics-feature-mtp-what-it-why-use-it-and-how-set-it
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I've had trouble with MTP, unable to write certain files... So I have to Zip them, copy them over, then unzip them from within Android. And I made some Backups of my Apex Settings and such, before uninstalling the app, when I plugged the N4 into my computer the location where Apex saved the file did not show.. Once I finally just saved them to my Google Drive from the phone, I was unable to copy them back over to the N4 (hence the reason for needing to ZIP them) - Also I recreated the Apex settings folder myself via Windows Explorer in the Android Folder of the n4 but Apex was unable to find it. When I clicked Backup within Apex, it normally will inform you of an overwrite if backup files already exist, but this did not happen.
I have the basic folders appear in Windows Explorer (Alarms, Android, DCIM, Downloads, Movies, Music, Notifications, Pictures, Podcast, and Ringtones) ... The Android Folder (where Apex saves its backups) would only display a few select folders (those related to media) so the Apex Backup folder is not visible in Windows Explorer...
Anyhow, I'm certainly not a fan of MTP... but will read the article you posted and maybe it will help/change my view
have a recently rooted nexus 4.2.2 and did a nandroid backup using clockwork recovery. clockwork stored it into a directory which i can't access by just plugging my phone to the usb cable of my pc. i do see folders, but not that particular folder. i have usb debugging option turned on also. i just wanted to transfer the backup files to my pc for storage. is there a way to do this? thank you.
konoplya said:
have a recently rooted nexus 4.2.2 and did a nandroid backup using clockwork recovery. clockwork stored it into a directory which i can't access by just plugging my phone to the usb cable of my pc. i do see folders, but not that particular folder. i have usb debugging option turned on also. i just wanted to transfer the backup files to my pc for storage. is there a way to do this? thank you.
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You can't see it because windows can't access those folders. You can either move the backups using a file explorer to a folder windows can access, pull the files using ABD or if you have the paid version of ROM Manager you can download the files to your pc using a browser.
I figured it was something of that nature. However I have downloaded different file explorers including the es file explorer and I still can't see the folders on my phone even, not just pc. But when I boot into clockwork recovery and browse through there I can see those folders. I'm at a loss.
konoplya said:
I figured it was something of that nature. However I have downloaded different file explorers including the es file explorer and I still can't see the folders on my phone even, not just pc. But when I boot into clockwork recovery and browse through there I can see those folders. I'm at a loss.
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With ES File Explorer I had to turn on the root explorer option in the settings, the world and phone icon at the top left..
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With ES File Explorer I had to turn on the root explorer option in the settings, the world and phone icon at the top left..
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yes, i did that as well, but it still doesn't let me see the directories that i see in clockwork. the directories i'm talking about are in /sdcard.. they are
- 0/
- clockworkmod/
- legacy/
- obb/
the only ones i can see are 0/ and legacy/. if i go to 0/ i can see what i normally see in the pc windows explorer. there is also a folder called clockworkmod/ but it only contains the folder called download/ and a couple of files under 100kb.
also, when i'm viewing the folders in ES file manager the sdcard folder has a little shortcut arrow on it instead of a solid folder like most of the other ones.
I can't speak for the intricacies of Clockworkmod as I have never used it, but after doing either a TWRP backup or a Titanium backup on 4.2.2, I have always been able to copy and/or view these backup files using any of the following methods, as well as verifying that they are equivalent (Same exact number of files, same exact file sizes):
1) Copying the files from the Nexus 4 to Windows 7 64 bit Professional using Microsoft Windows Explorer.
2) Copying the files from the Nexus 4 to Windows 7 64 bit Professional by performing an "adb pull".
3) Viewing the files with the Android ES Explorer app (With the "Root Explorer" option turned on and changing the top directory to root or "/").
4) Viewing the files in TWRP.
I also use the full path to the files (when possible). As I recall, there were instances where not all the files were visible if I didn't use the full path. Replacing /0 with /legacy on Android 4.2:
TWRP BACKUP
/data/media/0/TWRP/BACKUPS/<PHONE SERIAL# HERE>/<FILE BACKUP SUBDIRECTORY HERE>/
TITIANIUM BACKUP
/data/media/0/TitaniumBackup/
In fact I just performed all four of these methods a couple of minutes ago because I was originally having problems with Android 4.3 (Not all files being transferred over due to the known permission changes with 4.3), and I wanted to double check that everything is still working properly now. What solved all my issues with 4.3 was to update all my programs to “4.3 friendly” versions (You could see if this resolves your 4.2.2 issues as well):
1) Installed the latest version of TWRP.
2) Unrooted using the latest version of Superuser.
3) Installed the latest Android SDK and then ran the SDK Manager to insure everything was up to date.
a) Deleted my Windows driver and installed the latest Google USB driver from the SDK.
b) Used the new updated platform tools to perform fastboot, adb, etc.
pjc123 said:
I can't speak for the intricacies of Clockworkmod as I have never used it, but after doing either a TWRP backup or a Titanium backup on 4.2.2, I have always been able to copy and/or view these backup files using any of the following methods, as well as verifying that they are equivalent (Same exact number of files, same exact file sizes):
1) Copying the files from the Nexus 4 to Windows 7 64 bit Professional using Microsoft Windows Explorer.
2) Copying the files from the Nexus 4 to Windows 7 64 bit Professional by performing an "adb pull".
3) Viewing the files with the Android ES Explorer app (With the "Root Explorer" option turned on and changing the top directory to root or "/").
4) Viewing the files in TWRP.
I also use the full path to the files (when possible). As I recall, there were instances where not all the files were visible if I didn't use the full path. Replacing /0 with /legacy on Android 4.2:
TWRP BACKUP
/data/media/0/TWRP/BACKUPS/<PHONE SERIAL# HERE>/<FILE BACKUP SUBDIRECTORY HERE>/
TITIANIUM BACKUP
/data/media/0/TitaniumBackup/
In fact I just performed all four of these methods a couple of minutes ago because I was originally having problems with Android 4.3 (Not all files being transferred over due to the known permission changes with 4.3), and I wanted to double check that everything is still working properly now. What solved all my issues with 4.3 was to update all my programs to “4.3 friendly” versions (You could see if this resolves your 4.2.2 issues as well):
1) Installed the latest version of TWRP.
2) Unrooted using the latest version of Superuser.
3) Installed the latest Android SDK and then ran the SDK Manager to insure everything was up to date.
a) Deleted my Windows driver and installed the latest Google USB driver from the SDK.
b) Used the new updated platform tools to perform fastboot, adb, etc.
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the thing is i can't see the directories that the files are in. either in file explorer or in windows. i need to get more familiar with adb and maybe do it through that, but its strange because i should be able to see them in the explorer. so essentially i have a nandroid backup on my phone that i can't really access to move it or delete it. i can only access it through clockwork recovery. also, all the stuff i used is the latest versions i.e. sdk, drivers, etc.
Then I am at a loss if you tried all the things mentioned. If it is a permission issue, then adb should bypass that problem. The adb executable is located in the platform-tools subdirectory of the SDK. You run the "adb pull" command from a "Command Prompt" window while located in that directory. The nandroid copy will take quite a while, so wait until it is finished (For example, my latest one was 330 MB in size).
While the phone is in recovery, here are some examples of grabbing the TWRP and TITANIUM backup files and putting them into the directories TWRP_BACKUP and TITANIUM_BACKUP respectively (That I previously created) on the windows "C" drive. As before, you would probably be replacing /legacy for /0:
adb pull /data/media/0/TWRP/BACKUPS/<PUT SERIAL # OF PHONE HERE>/<PUT DATE OF BACKUP HERE>/ C:\TWRP_BACKUP\
adb pull /data/media/0/TitaniumBackup/ C:\TITANIUM_BACKUP\
konoplya said:
yes, i did that as well, but it still doesn't let me see the directories that i see in clockwork. the directories i'm talking about are in /sdcard.. they are
- 0/
- clockworkmod/
- legacy/
- obb/
the only ones i can see are 0/ and legacy/. if i go to 0/ i can see what i normally see in the pc windows explorer. there is also a folder called clockworkmod/ but it only contains the folder called download/ and a couple of files under 100kb.
also, when i'm viewing the folders in ES file manager the sdcard folder has a little shortcut arrow on it instead of a solid folder like most of the other ones.
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Clockworkmod puts the backups in a secure system folder with the path mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup. In ES File Explorer hit the "/" at the top which will open up "device" and now you will see all of your system folders. Root Explorer is a simpler app to use as it only has two directory options, root and storage. I bought both apps a long time ago as I liked that ES File Explorer lets you connect to a lan to upload/download files through wifi.
pjc123 said:
Then I am at a loss if you tried all the things mentioned. If it is a permission issue, then adb should bypass that problem. The adb executable is located in the platform-tools subdirectory of the SDK. You run the "adb pull" command from a "Command Prompt" window while located in that directory. The nandroid copy will take quite a while, so wait until it is finished (For example, my latest one was 330 MB in size).
While the phone is in recovery, here are some examples of grabbing the TWRP and TITANIUM backup files and putting them into the directories TWRP_BACKUP and TITANIUM_BACKUP respectively (That I previously created) on the windows "C" drive. As before, you would probably be replacing /legacy for /0:
adb pull /data/media/0/TWRP/BACKUPS/<PUT SERIAL # OF PHONE HERE>/<PUT DATE OF BACKUP HERE>/ C:\TWRP_BACKUP\
adb pull /data/media/0/TitaniumBackup/ C:\TITANIUM_BACKUP\
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i'll play around with that when i get home. thank you.
kzoodroid said:
Clockworkmod puts the backups in a secure system folder with the path mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup. In ES File Explorer hit the "/" at the top which will open up "device" and now you will see all of your system folders. Root Explorer is a simpler app to use as it only has two directory options, root and storage. I bought both apps a long time ago as I liked that ES File Explorer lets you connect to a lan to upload/download files through wifi.
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i have root explorer that i purchased a couple years ago as well. doesn't show me the path you mention. neither does the ES File Explorer. this is why it puzzles me since my phone is rooted. when i look in ES File Explorer and choose "/" as my starting point, i do see all the folders, however, the clockworkmod folder doesn't contain the "backup" folder. it has only "download" folder and a couple of files ".recovery_version" and ".settings".. nothing else.
konoplya;45563381i have root explorer that i purchased a couple years ago as well. doesn't show me the path you mention. neither does the ES File Explorer. this is why it puzzles me since my phone is rooted. when i look in ES File Explorer and choose "/" as my starting point said:
You can't see /mnt in the root directory? Are you sure your phone is still rooted? Open up your superuser app and see if both ES File Explorer and Root Explorer are listed. On my phone in the mnt/shell/emulated folder I have 4 files, 0, clockworkmod, legacy, and obb.
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kzoodroid said:
You can't see /mnt in the root directory? Are you sure your phone is still rooted? Open up your superuser app and see if both ES File Explorer and Root Explorer are listed. On my phone in the mnt/shell/emulated folder I have 4 files, 0, clockworkmod, legacy, and obb.
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I posted picks of the folders in ES File Explorer. In the clockworkmod folder I have 2 subfolders, download and backup.
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I posted picks of the folders in ES File Explorer. In the clockworkmod folder I have 2 subfolders, download and backup.
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I looked in su and I have three apps listed there: root explorer, titanium backup, and es file explorer. I don't see those folders that you have in your screenshots. What app do you use for that? I'll take a screenshot of what I have.
Edit: I reinstalled the file explorer and rebooted the phone and I can see the mnt directory now. Don't know why it wasn't showing up. Thank you for the help.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
konoplya said:
I looked in su and I have three apps listed there: root explorer, titanium backup, and es file explorer. I don't see those folders that you have in your screenshots. What app do you use for that? I'll take a screenshot of what I have.
Edit: I reinstalled the file explorer and rebooted the phone and I can see the mnt directory now. Don't know why it wasn't showing up. Thank you for the help.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
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Glad you got it worked out. To take screen shots press and hold the power button and volume down at the same time. My photos automatically upload to dropbox and I just attached them from there to my post.
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Glad you got it worked out. To take screen shots press and hold the power button and volume down at the same time. My photos automatically upload to dropbox and I just attached them from there to my post.
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thats badass. thanks!
Happened to me aswell
all you need to do is go into your file browser on your phone and then move the file somewhere else while still connected to the pc.. should be good then
Hi,
I just noticed very strange behavior of my Nexus 4 and my Windows 8.1 Laptop, when I'm looking at my 'sdcard' directory on phone using Root Explorer or ES File Explorer. For example I have some files in my Download folder, when I' deleted them, they appear to be gone forever. Folder properties says there are only for example 4 files - 14Mb, but then, when I connect my phone to my Laptop with USB cable, and check the same folder I see those deleted files, and folder properties says there are more files taking more space... I don't know what's causing that, and i think it's really strange... I'll attach some screens to show you what i mean.
I'm sorry that screens are not in English but you should be able to figure out what i mean:
This is what I see on my Laptop:
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This is what i see on my Phone:
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After you delete the file on the phone, you need to let "media scan" run so it can update the files index, only then connect it to your computer, so the changes will be reflected. This is done automatically if you just wait a while or reboot the phone and give it a few minutes to scan.
If you delete files from the phone while you have the phone plugged in, it won't get update soon enough. If you delete the files from the computer then more than likely it will get updated on the phone aswell.
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After you delete the file on the phone, you need to let "media scan" run so it can update the files index, only then connect it to your computer, so the changes will be reflected. This is done automatically if you just wait a while or reboot the phone and give it a few minutes to scan.
If you delete files from the phone while you have the phone plugged in, it won't get update soon enough. If you delete the files from the computer then more than likely it will get updated on the phone aswell.
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Thanks, now it all makes sense
Hi,
I'm on stock everything, havent done anything to my phone.
Here's what happens, I plugged my nexus 6p on my pc.
I am expecting a few more files and folders in the Downloads folder, but I only see a few in the PC. Screenshots attached.
EDIT: As you can see, kali-linux-2016.1-amd64 and NBA_2K11-FLT (I downloaded because of Jordan Mode LOL) weren't shown on my PC. Please help me.
EDIT 2: It turns out this is a code issue on Android itself. A temporary work around would be to move the folder/file on Android, using a File Manager to a different location so that Android can scan the folder/file.