Can't see all the files/folders in windows explorer - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

have a recently rooted nexus 4.2.2 and did a nandroid backup using clockwork recovery. clockwork stored it into a directory which i can't access by just plugging my phone to the usb cable of my pc. i do see folders, but not that particular folder. i have usb debugging option turned on also. i just wanted to transfer the backup files to my pc for storage. is there a way to do this? thank you.

konoplya said:
have a recently rooted nexus 4.2.2 and did a nandroid backup using clockwork recovery. clockwork stored it into a directory which i can't access by just plugging my phone to the usb cable of my pc. i do see folders, but not that particular folder. i have usb debugging option turned on also. i just wanted to transfer the backup files to my pc for storage. is there a way to do this? thank you.
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You can't see it because windows can't access those folders. You can either move the backups using a file explorer to a folder windows can access, pull the files using ABD or if you have the paid version of ROM Manager you can download the files to your pc using a browser.

I figured it was something of that nature. However I have downloaded different file explorers including the es file explorer and I still can't see the folders on my phone even, not just pc. But when I boot into clockwork recovery and browse through there I can see those folders. I'm at a loss.

konoplya said:
I figured it was something of that nature. However I have downloaded different file explorers including the es file explorer and I still can't see the folders on my phone even, not just pc. But when I boot into clockwork recovery and browse through there I can see those folders. I'm at a loss.
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With ES File Explorer I had to turn on the root explorer option in the settings, the world and phone icon at the top left..

kzoodroid said:
With ES File Explorer I had to turn on the root explorer option in the settings, the world and phone icon at the top left..
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yes, i did that as well, but it still doesn't let me see the directories that i see in clockwork. the directories i'm talking about are in /sdcard.. they are
- 0/
- clockworkmod/
- legacy/
- obb/
the only ones i can see are 0/ and legacy/. if i go to 0/ i can see what i normally see in the pc windows explorer. there is also a folder called clockworkmod/ but it only contains the folder called download/ and a couple of files under 100kb.
also, when i'm viewing the folders in ES file manager the sdcard folder has a little shortcut arrow on it instead of a solid folder like most of the other ones.

I can't speak for the intricacies of Clockworkmod as I have never used it, but after doing either a TWRP backup or a Titanium backup on 4.2.2, I have always been able to copy and/or view these backup files using any of the following methods, as well as verifying that they are equivalent (Same exact number of files, same exact file sizes):
1) Copying the files from the Nexus 4 to Windows 7 64 bit Professional using Microsoft Windows Explorer.
2) Copying the files from the Nexus 4 to Windows 7 64 bit Professional by performing an "adb pull".
3) Viewing the files with the Android ES Explorer app (With the "Root Explorer" option turned on and changing the top directory to root or "/").
4) Viewing the files in TWRP.
I also use the full path to the files (when possible). As I recall, there were instances where not all the files were visible if I didn't use the full path. Replacing /0 with /legacy on Android 4.2:
TWRP BACKUP
/data/media/0/TWRP/BACKUPS/<PHONE SERIAL# HERE>/<FILE BACKUP SUBDIRECTORY HERE>/
TITIANIUM BACKUP
/data/media/0/TitaniumBackup/
In fact I just performed all four of these methods a couple of minutes ago because I was originally having problems with Android 4.3 (Not all files being transferred over due to the known permission changes with 4.3), and I wanted to double check that everything is still working properly now. What solved all my issues with 4.3 was to update all my programs to “4.3 friendly” versions (You could see if this resolves your 4.2.2 issues as well):
1) Installed the latest version of TWRP.
2) Unrooted using the latest version of Superuser.
3) Installed the latest Android SDK and then ran the SDK Manager to insure everything was up to date.
a) Deleted my Windows driver and installed the latest Google USB driver from the SDK.
b) Used the new updated platform tools to perform fastboot, adb, etc.

pjc123 said:
I can't speak for the intricacies of Clockworkmod as I have never used it, but after doing either a TWRP backup or a Titanium backup on 4.2.2, I have always been able to copy and/or view these backup files using any of the following methods, as well as verifying that they are equivalent (Same exact number of files, same exact file sizes):
1) Copying the files from the Nexus 4 to Windows 7 64 bit Professional using Microsoft Windows Explorer.
2) Copying the files from the Nexus 4 to Windows 7 64 bit Professional by performing an "adb pull".
3) Viewing the files with the Android ES Explorer app (With the "Root Explorer" option turned on and changing the top directory to root or "/").
4) Viewing the files in TWRP.
I also use the full path to the files (when possible). As I recall, there were instances where not all the files were visible if I didn't use the full path. Replacing /0 with /legacy on Android 4.2:
TWRP BACKUP
/data/media/0/TWRP/BACKUPS/<PHONE SERIAL# HERE>/<FILE BACKUP SUBDIRECTORY HERE>/
TITIANIUM BACKUP
/data/media/0/TitaniumBackup/
In fact I just performed all four of these methods a couple of minutes ago because I was originally having problems with Android 4.3 (Not all files being transferred over due to the known permission changes with 4.3), and I wanted to double check that everything is still working properly now. What solved all my issues with 4.3 was to update all my programs to “4.3 friendly” versions (You could see if this resolves your 4.2.2 issues as well):
1) Installed the latest version of TWRP.
2) Unrooted using the latest version of Superuser.
3) Installed the latest Android SDK and then ran the SDK Manager to insure everything was up to date.
a) Deleted my Windows driver and installed the latest Google USB driver from the SDK.
b) Used the new updated platform tools to perform fastboot, adb, etc.
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the thing is i can't see the directories that the files are in. either in file explorer or in windows. i need to get more familiar with adb and maybe do it through that, but its strange because i should be able to see them in the explorer. so essentially i have a nandroid backup on my phone that i can't really access to move it or delete it. i can only access it through clockwork recovery. also, all the stuff i used is the latest versions i.e. sdk, drivers, etc.

Then I am at a loss if you tried all the things mentioned. If it is a permission issue, then adb should bypass that problem. The adb executable is located in the platform-tools subdirectory of the SDK. You run the "adb pull" command from a "Command Prompt" window while located in that directory. The nandroid copy will take quite a while, so wait until it is finished (For example, my latest one was 330 MB in size).
While the phone is in recovery, here are some examples of grabbing the TWRP and TITANIUM backup files and putting them into the directories TWRP_BACKUP and TITANIUM_BACKUP respectively (That I previously created) on the windows "C" drive. As before, you would probably be replacing /legacy for /0:
adb pull /data/media/0/TWRP/BACKUPS/<PUT SERIAL # OF PHONE HERE>/<PUT DATE OF BACKUP HERE>/ C:\TWRP_BACKUP\
adb pull /data/media/0/TitaniumBackup/ C:\TITANIUM_BACKUP\

konoplya said:
yes, i did that as well, but it still doesn't let me see the directories that i see in clockwork. the directories i'm talking about are in /sdcard.. they are
- 0/
- clockworkmod/
- legacy/
- obb/
the only ones i can see are 0/ and legacy/. if i go to 0/ i can see what i normally see in the pc windows explorer. there is also a folder called clockworkmod/ but it only contains the folder called download/ and a couple of files under 100kb.
also, when i'm viewing the folders in ES file manager the sdcard folder has a little shortcut arrow on it instead of a solid folder like most of the other ones.
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Clockworkmod puts the backups in a secure system folder with the path mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup. In ES File Explorer hit the "/" at the top which will open up "device" and now you will see all of your system folders. Root Explorer is a simpler app to use as it only has two directory options, root and storage. I bought both apps a long time ago as I liked that ES File Explorer lets you connect to a lan to upload/download files through wifi.

pjc123 said:
Then I am at a loss if you tried all the things mentioned. If it is a permission issue, then adb should bypass that problem. The adb executable is located in the platform-tools subdirectory of the SDK. You run the "adb pull" command from a "Command Prompt" window while located in that directory. The nandroid copy will take quite a while, so wait until it is finished (For example, my latest one was 330 MB in size).
While the phone is in recovery, here are some examples of grabbing the TWRP and TITANIUM backup files and putting them into the directories TWRP_BACKUP and TITANIUM_BACKUP respectively (That I previously created) on the windows "C" drive. As before, you would probably be replacing /legacy for /0:
adb pull /data/media/0/TWRP/BACKUPS/<PUT SERIAL # OF PHONE HERE>/<PUT DATE OF BACKUP HERE>/ C:\TWRP_BACKUP\
adb pull /data/media/0/TitaniumBackup/ C:\TITANIUM_BACKUP\
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i'll play around with that when i get home. thank you.
kzoodroid said:
Clockworkmod puts the backups in a secure system folder with the path mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup. In ES File Explorer hit the "/" at the top which will open up "device" and now you will see all of your system folders. Root Explorer is a simpler app to use as it only has two directory options, root and storage. I bought both apps a long time ago as I liked that ES File Explorer lets you connect to a lan to upload/download files through wifi.
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i have root explorer that i purchased a couple years ago as well. doesn't show me the path you mention. neither does the ES File Explorer. this is why it puzzles me since my phone is rooted. when i look in ES File Explorer and choose "/" as my starting point, i do see all the folders, however, the clockworkmod folder doesn't contain the "backup" folder. it has only "download" folder and a couple of files ".recovery_version" and ".settings".. nothing else.

konoplya;45563381i have root explorer that i purchased a couple years ago as well. doesn't show me the path you mention. neither does the ES File Explorer. this is why it puzzles me since my phone is rooted. when i look in ES File Explorer and choose "/" as my starting point said:
You can't see /mnt in the root directory? Are you sure your phone is still rooted? Open up your superuser app and see if both ES File Explorer and Root Explorer are listed. On my phone in the mnt/shell/emulated folder I have 4 files, 0, clockworkmod, legacy, and obb.
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kzoodroid said:
You can't see /mnt in the root directory? Are you sure your phone is still rooted? Open up your superuser app and see if both ES File Explorer and Root Explorer are listed. On my phone in the mnt/shell/emulated folder I have 4 files, 0, clockworkmod, legacy, and obb.
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I posted picks of the folders in ES File Explorer. In the clockworkmod folder I have 2 subfolders, download and backup.

kzoodroid said:
I posted picks of the folders in ES File Explorer. In the clockworkmod folder I have 2 subfolders, download and backup.
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I looked in su and I have three apps listed there: root explorer, titanium backup, and es file explorer. I don't see those folders that you have in your screenshots. What app do you use for that? I'll take a screenshot of what I have.
Edit: I reinstalled the file explorer and rebooted the phone and I can see the mnt directory now. Don't know why it wasn't showing up. Thank you for the help.
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konoplya said:
I looked in su and I have three apps listed there: root explorer, titanium backup, and es file explorer. I don't see those folders that you have in your screenshots. What app do you use for that? I'll take a screenshot of what I have.
Edit: I reinstalled the file explorer and rebooted the phone and I can see the mnt directory now. Don't know why it wasn't showing up. Thank you for the help.
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Glad you got it worked out. To take screen shots press and hold the power button and volume down at the same time. My photos automatically upload to dropbox and I just attached them from there to my post.

kzoodroid said:
Glad you got it worked out. To take screen shots press and hold the power button and volume down at the same time. My photos automatically upload to dropbox and I just attached them from there to my post.
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thats badass. thanks!

Happened to me aswell
all you need to do is go into your file browser on your phone and then move the file somewhere else while still connected to the pc.. should be good then

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App install Fails?

hey all iv noticed this a lot with the stock 2.2 rom on my POV Mobii tegra 2 (advent vega rebrand).
e.g i uninstalled a game called jelly defence, then tried to install an updated version of it. the install fails saying aplication not installed.
ok so i then tried to reinstall the first version i had working on the tablet, and that also fails to install saying again application not installed..
why would this be happening? iv noticed that it happens on a fair few number of apps that i install, then uninstall, then try to install again and they fail to install.
installation is done via apk file from sd card. even tried over wifi and still same error.
I know this might sound rude, but did you try Google?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4226132/application-not-installed-error-on-android
ahh, could be something to do with the certificates or the AndroidManifest.xml file.
where is this file located so that i can check its permissions?
This might be a tough nutt to crack...
"AndroidManifest.xml" file is inside .apk files.
ok i managed to fix the problem. i mounted my sd card to the pc with card reader, and in the android.secure folder there was a file called smdl2tmp1.asec , i deleted that and now the app installs fine. got both jelly defence and few others installed with no issues.
strange how i cant see that folder on the tablet itself because its hidden. need an app to see the folder and its contents directly on the tablet so i can delete it again if needed.
Yeah, folders and files with a dot infront of their names are invisible.
It's a Linux thing!
Glad you got that sorted out!
is there no file manager app that can see these files directly on the tablet?
Just tried "iFileManager" app I got with stock tablet software and it can see hidden files/folders.
I also tried Root Explorer and it can see hidden files/folders, but this is a paid app.
Astro File Manager can also see hidden files/folders, but you need to go into Preferences-->Look and Feel-->and enable "Show Hidden Files" option.
Maybe your current file manager app also has such an option?
Hope I helped, and don't forget to give a thanks!
ahh, i have stock ifilemanager, but i dont use it, i use ES File Explorer since i can access my LAN shares with it easily over the wifi. will give ifilemanager a go in few mins time.
thanks again.
just checked ifilemanager can see the folder but it cant see any of the file which are inside the folder.
Just checked some "hidden" folders myself on my tablet.
Some have files / sub-folders inside and some don't.
Not all folders need to have files inside.
but when i check the folder on the pc via sdcard reader, there are files in the folder.
cant see them directly on the tablet, but when connected to pc i can see the files in exact same location.

Need help with understanding mount-points, folder structure and file system rights...

Hi everyone,
I need your help. I sometimes face strange issues with my Nexus 4 (Stock Room, Rooted, Matrix Kernel v5). Yesterday I wanted to copy a apk-file for installation on my phone from my home-server. I use ES File Explorer for that. I failed to copy the apk-file to /sdcard/folder-name (operation failed). then i navigated to /data/media/0/folder-name and tried it from there, also it didn't work.
i then copied the file to /sdcard/download and was able to copy it to that and to install it.
i don't really understand why it behaves that way, i was always able to go to /sdcard/folder-name and do what i want. i also noticed another strange thing. i connected my phone via USB (MTP-mode) to the PC and uploaded a few GB of MP3s to it (Folder: Music).
when browsing this folder with ES File Explorer, I cannot delete anything from that folder /sdcard/Music. THOUGH it reports "deletion successful" the files or folders do not get deleted but just remain on the internal SD-card. i could only delete the music successfully via "/data/media/0/Music".
who can explain briefly WTF is going on? i obviously do not really understand the concept and logic behind this. is there a maximum file/path length that must not be exceeded?
thanks in advance and best regards,
hallu
need to bump this, sorry...
does anyone have any idea as to why this phone is behaving the way it is?
I use root explorer and have ZERO issues. That includes pulling apk's.
Try a different file explorer to see if that makes a difference so at least you can determine if the issue is just app specific and not something else.
Check to see of ES isn't mounting certain folders with RW permissions.
Also the actual internal storage is /data/media/0/ so /sdcard/ is just a symlink to that folder. ES seems to be having problems with the symlinks.

[SOLVED] Help Me Understand the Folder Structure

(i tried searching for similar threads... this was the only thing i can find sorta close)
i have the 16GB version, and i flashed CM10.1 M2 yesterday. i performed a wipe data so that i could start from fresh.
now i'm trying to restore app settings one at a time. the first one i tried to do was Nova Launcher.
i had connected my tablet to my computer, and copied over my backup to the following:
/Android/data/com.teslacoilsw.launcher/backup/
now when i go to Nova Launcher restore, it can't find it. it is looking for the backup in the following path:
/sdcard/data/com.teslacoilsw.launcher/backup/
so boot up Astro File Manager, and i found the following folders at the root level:
/sdcard/
/storage/emulated/0/
/storage/emulated/legacy/
/storage/sdcard0/
/storage/usbdisk/ (empty)
/usbdisk/ (empty)
the first 4 folders mentioned here all display the same files as if i was viewing them from my computer.
if i navigate to /Android/data/com.teslacoilsw.launcher/backup/ from any of these 4 folders, i'll see my Nova backup file.
i have no idea why Nova Launcher can't see my backup file to restore.
in a related note, i made a CWM nandroid. but when i go to /clockworkmod/ nothing is there except 2 hidden files (nomedia and settings). even tho from within CWM, it sees the backup.
-SOLVED-
in short, don't use Astro File Manager. i started to use ES File Explorer.
Look in /data/media/clockworkmod/backup for your backups.
when i go to the root level- /data/ this folder is empty.
(using Astro File Manager)
In Root Explorer or ES File Explorer you can navigate to /data/media/clockworkmod/backup. I don't know why Astro is not showing it, but I just checked in Astro and can't see it either. Astro is no longer listed as having root access after the latest updates. I can't add it in SuperSU. I think that's the problem for Astro.
yes! problem solved.
i didn't know Astro couldn't navigate to those folders anymore. stopped using that now.
on to ES File Explorer.
found where to put my Nova backups, and i found the CWM backups too.

ADB-puuled CWM backup doesn't match its original size on phone?

Hi all,
I've decided to try and copy my nandroid backup that I made the other day (first ever since I've just rooted my phone) to my PC.
Long story short, I attempted to use Root explorer to cut and paste the backup's folder into a folder that is visible on my PC so I could get a copy onto my PC, and then cut and paste the nandroid back into its original folder (tedious, but I don't have enough space to have 2 copies of the nadroid on my phone at the same time). This, however, fails, and I can't see the backup folder in the folder that I can see on my PC despite it being visible in this same PC-visible folder via root explorer after its supposedly pasted it.
So I went via option 2, using ADB to pull the folder.
After another amount of research I found a path that does pull the folder (mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup .... data/media/clockworkmod/backup = remote object doesn't exist error).
It appears to pull the folder successfully (an identically named folder appears in "platform tools" folder on my PC), however the size of this pulled folder is only ~500mb, and I'm certain the nandroid backup took up at least 3-4GB on my phone after it was created.
The pulled folder also doesn't show all the files that I can see within the nandroid backup's folder via root explorer.
I did notice the "read-only" checkbox of the pulled folder appears filled in, which I take it means not all files in the folder have read-only properties. Is it possible there are (still) hidden files within the pulled folder that would account for the difference in size and number of visible files compared to the original nandroid folder on the phone?
any clarificaion of this would be good - I'm keen to have a copy of my backup on my PC as a safeguard, but this scenario has baffled me despite an hr's worth of research
No one?
Surely someone has an idea about this..
I have experienced incomplete adb pulls also, and so I just stick to using MTP from within Windows. It's the only way for mention ensure a complete copy.
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lolcakes203 said:
I have experienced incomplete adb pulls also, and so I just stick to using MTP from within Windows. It's the only way for mention ensure a complete copy.
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How are you doing this?
I use cwm and the backup folder isn't visible if I use mmtp (Windows file explorer etc), hence why I'm having to use other methods.
salxtai said:
How are you doing this?
I use cwm and the backup folder isn't visible if I use mmtp (Windows file explorer etc), hence why I'm having to use other methods.
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It's possible that the computer and phone may be calculating file sizes differently. I would check the MD5 sums to see if they are the same on the computer and phone rather than guessing
lopezk38 said:
It's possible that the computer and phone may be calculating file sizes differently. I would check the MD5 sums to see if they are the same on the computer and phone rather than guessing
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Apologies for my ignorance, but I've been searching how to do this via Google and I must be really dumb because I'm not following how to do md5 checks. Could you explain it please?
salxtai said:
Apologies for my ignorance, but I've been searching how to do this via Google and I must be really dumb because I'm not following how to do md5 checks. Could you explain it please?
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For Windows you need to download a program to check MD5. Microsoft has one available here, although it is a command line operated program. There are other programs that have a GUI for checking MD5 if you don't want to bother with the command line.
On your phone, using your file explorer and long pressing the backup should give you the option somewhere to calculate MD5 sums (Probably in properties). I don't know if root explorer does, I've never used it before, but I use Solid Explorer which does give me the option to calculate MD5 in the properties menu
I'm not sure why you're backup folder isn't visible, when I connect though USB, all my SD card folders are shown, including the CWM Folder.
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lopezk38 said:
For Windows you need to download a program to check MD5. Microsoft has one available here, although it is a command line operated program. There are other programs that have a GUI for checking MD5 if you don't want to bother with the command line.
On your phone, using your file explorer and long pressing the backup should give you the option somewhere to calculate MD5 sums (Probably in properties). I don't know if root explorer does, I've never used it before, but I use Solid Explorer which does give me the option to calculate MD5 in the properties menu
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After a while of trying to work out the command line, I've think I've got it (but would like confirmation that this is correct).
- Pointed the fciv.exe command to the nandroid.md5 file located in the backup folder I had pulled from the phone via ADB
- using Solid explorer (root explorer also has this but I only worked this out after I worked out that I had look at the properties of the .md5 file itself w/in the explorer app, rather than the whole folder), I found the MD5 sum from within the backup folder
-- verdict: both numbers outputted by each source match.
Now my next question is, if I were to delete the backup on my phone, how do I go about putting it back into the "hidden" CWM backup folder where it came from later?
(seeing as I wasn't able to copy it using root explorer, and can't see the folder via MTP on my PC)
lolcakes203 said:
I'm not sure why you're backup folder isn't visible, when I connect though USB, all my SD card folders are shown, including the CWM Folder.
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I have no idea either, and its really really annoying me.
Have you made some sort of permission changes to the folder/s themselves?
I have "show hidden folders" enabled under view options in windows explorer and have tried "show system folders", but that hasn't resovled it.
salxtai said:
After a while of trying to work out the command line, I've think I've got it (but would like confirmation that this is correct).
- Pointed the fciv.exe command to the nandroid.md5 file located in the backup folder I had pulled from the phone via ADB
- using Solid explorer (root explorer also has this but I only worked this out after I worked out that I had look at the properties of the .md5 file itself w/in the explorer app, rather than the whole folder), I found the MD5 sum from within the backup folder
-- verdict: both numbers outputted by each source match.
Now my next question is, if I were to delete the backup on my phone, how do I go about putting it back into the "hidden" CWM backup folder where it came from later?
(seeing as I wasn't able to copy it using root explorer, and can't see the folder via MTP on my PC)
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You can use ADB push in recovery the folder. Just make sure you mount /data
I do have those settings enabled in control panel, but aside from that I'm not sure what else could be there. In terms of USB settings, I have USB debugging enabled in developer options, and in the storage menu I have mtp selected, not the other one. I think that is all the USB settings that I have changed.
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salxtai said:
I have no idea either, and its really really annoying me.
Have you made some sort of permission changes to the folder/s themselves?
I have "show hidden folders" enabled under view options in windows explorer and have tried "show system folders", but that hasn't resovled it.
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The CWM backup folder shouldn't be able to be accessed with MTP. Android only allows you to access your user's folder (You can only have multiple users on tablets, but the user based file structure is still there) through USB. User folders have a number attached to them to mark which user they are for, which is why you have that folder named 0 with all your stuff in it, because you are user #0. Since CWM backups are saved in a separate branch, Android does not make them available to USB for security reasons. lolcakes203 probably has a modified version of CWM (Or you can change the save directory in CWM? I haven't used CWM in forever), or he has TWRP which saves backups in your user folder so you can access them through USB
Ahh yes I am using PhilZ CWM and that may be why I can see the backup.
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lopezk38 said:
You can use ADB push in recovery the folder. Just make sure you mount /data
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Sorry, not sure I'm following the command line instructions - how would this command line look in full?

Can't see TWRP Backups in TWRP Folder

Now i know this is a common-ish issue with some variants as to the actual problem, i should know i've been trying to fix this for the last 48 hours but have eventually had to ask.
I made a TWRP Backup that when I look in the TWRP File Browser i know is stored in /sdcard/TWRP which i think is the same as storage/emulated/0/TWRP which is where i see an empty TWRP folder in both ES File Explorer, File Manager HD and Root Explorer. I've searched and this is the only TWRP folder on the device that is found and i've turned on 'Root Explorer' yet the folder is always empty, in fact ES File Explorer see's it but actually won't let me go into it like the other 2.
I've seen various things about such as Terminal Emulator commands but i can't get this to work, i just want to be able to move the backup to my PC and be done with it (until i have to worry about putting it back)
Can anyone help with how i can get this to work?
Actually finally just solved this. It seems if you connect the phone to your computer while in TWRP, i can see the contents of the TWRP folder. I'm pretty sure i tried this earlier, so maybe all the messing around i've tried since also contributed, but its solved finally.
If You can see TWRP through ES Explorer then Follow Given Steps :-
1. Open ES Explorer and Click on the three lines ( Left side on the top )
2. Now Click on Tools ( it opens many Option )
3. Now You can See Root Explorer Option in it , On it.
4. Now You can copy paste it.

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