Exynos is NOT faster than SnapDragon.. sorry.. - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

it's all a matter of opinion. I've ran circles around an s8+ exynos.. not sure where people are seeing this so dramatic an increase. it's barely anything that will keep up with this chip except maybe the new one..
Here I've pulled a basically idle SnapDragon from cpu info.. I challenge anyone to PLEASE post one that even remotely and FACTUALY supports this obvious absurdity...

Thanoseid.bat said:
it's all a matter of opinion. I've ran circles around an s8+ exynos.. not sure where people are seeing this so dramatic an increase. it's barely anything that will keep up with this chip except maybe the new one..
Here I've pulled a basically idle SnapDragon from cpu info.. I challenge anyone to PLEASE post one that even remotely and FACTUALY supports this obvious absurdity...
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I was actually a Snapdragon user always. And that's the first time i use exynos.
But history shows that exynos is better in the long run. Battery wise it is also better. And i see it now.

Your post hardly makes sense. I don't understand what point you are trying to make
My exynos s8 doesn't need to strain my as much at idle as yours does though

Thanoseid.bat said:
it's all a matter of opinion. I've ran circles around an s8+ exynos.. not sure where people are seeing this so dramatic an increase. it's barely anything that will keep up with this chip except maybe the new one..
Here I've pulled a basically idle SnapDragon from cpu info.. I challenge anyone to PLEASE post one that even remotely and FACTUALY supports this obvious absurdity...
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wezzel98765 said:
Your post hardly makes sense. I don't understand what point you are trying to make
My exynos s8 doesn't need to strain my as much at idle as yours does though
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My bad. I got it wrong

Not entirely sure what we're looking at here but here's my snapdragon at idle

SirNamero said:
Not entirely sure what we're looking at here but here's my snapdragon at idle
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Omg its so slow, only 300mhz?!? Something must be wrong...

Why do some people make it out to be some sort of competition ?

peachpuff said:
Omg its so slow, only 300mhz?!? Something must be wrong...
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I know right? I tried underclocking it but that just made it worse. I tried putting it in my car and driving really fast cause maybe it just needed to physically move fast, but I just got a speeding ticket. I submitted a ticket to Samsung but they just told me to by an S9+. I'm at a loss here.
CuBz90 said:
Why do some people make it out to be some sort of competition
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Because e-peen is the most important thing in the world ok? So the real question here is why aren't you contributing to the competition??

no one claims exynos is faster they are on-par with each other. otherwise they would have sold these phones as different models. However, I believe if they were not forced to Samsung would sell exynos galaxy's to USA as well. exynos is a beter chipset for galaxy devices because its designed by samsung. snapdragon 835 etc is a generic SoC.

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HTC M9 overheats and throttles...

http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
Applesexual said:
http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
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By all means, make up your mind based upon a blog's first-hand experience with a prerelease ROM and kernel.
Just sayin'.
And also phone is connected to charger
Applesexual said:
http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
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Perhaps you would be more enlightened/discouraged by reading about the exact same issue with the S6 HERE
In both cases, these are both devices running "bragging" ROM versions for MWC and also running a synthetic benchmark that is often derided as "non-representative" of reality.
Either way, I wouldn't be tempted to draw any conclusions yet. Early adopters pay over the odds in financial and ROM stability/performance terms.
odd move basing your buying decision on a phone thats being used constantly pre released and being charged at the same dam time smh
And all this is based on the fact that some would-be tech journalist from Romania tried to do some benchmark tests on a phone with non-final software on it and that has been on the charger for two-three days continuously, with its screen lit up most of the time and that has been played with by hundreds of people ... Let's be patient a little and wait for a test when the whole package is actually finished and shipped out for real reviews.
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http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
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I had the same msg on my note 3... notting to worry about.. if your phone is at 57C, you'll see that msg in antututu if you want to benchmark
This should pretty much sum all this bafoonery up
Applesexual said:
http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
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Read this, kind of lengthy but very well written.
http://semiaccurate.com/2015/03/02/behind-fake-qualcomm-snapdragon-810-overheating-rumors/
Applesexual said:
http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
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Even if this is true would rather have a heating phone than a glass back phone with no microsd and running sampoop software that never updates still waiting for lollipop on my Note 4 worse decision ever trying samsung again I've never had a good experience with samsung u can have all the nice specs but you need software to back it up all htc's are currently updated to lollipop and should we talk about the bootloader easily unlockable does anyone remember the fact it leaked samsung paid people to give bad reviews on phones they have alot of money to throw around best is to try the phone yourself thats what the 15 day return policy is for
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Even if this is true would rather have a heating phone than a glass back phone with no microsd and running sampoop software that never updates still waiting for lollipop on my Note 4 worse decision ever trying samsung again I've never had a good experience with samsung u can have all the nice specs but you need software to back it up all htc's are currently updated to lollipop and should we talk about the bootloader easily unlockable does anyone remember the fact it leaked samsung paid people to give bad reviews on phones they have alot of money to throw around best is to try the phone yourself thats what the 15 day return policy is for
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Couldn't make sense of your point as there was no punctuation...I have tired head now.
Even if so, samsung would be the last company I turn my head to if I leave HTC (after apple that is, but goes without saying)
I thought this was a joke. The same post is in the Galaxy S6 forum.
Anywoot, simple solution to overheating. Custom kernel and undervolting.
watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqez7e5JTcU running benchmarks side by side and no overheating warning popped up on either phone.
Overheating on a demo phone that probably has the screen on for hours on end and is tethered into a charger...yeah that makes sense
Yes indeed.. Antutu already alarms when your phone is at 58C... Screen and charger always on, a lot of people play with it and run benchmarks.. not so strange it's going to be around 60C and antutu gives a warning..
Even the S6 will do exactly the same in that situation. I've had it also with my Note 3, when on charger
Not a big fan of Samsung's take on Android (TW) and I know benchmark results are not always reflective of real world performance. However, these results look pretty darn good for the S6 devices. Seems like some good optimization work has gone into these devices. S6 is pushing a lot more pixels.. don't know how the tests are affected by that.
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Not a big fan of Samsung's take on Android (TW) and I know benchmark results are not always reflective of real world performance. However, these results look pretty darn good for the S6 devices. Seems like some good optimization work has gone into these devices. S6 is pushing a lot more pixels.. don't know how the tests are affected by that.
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Optimization... On Samsung! Pufffth. It was evident in previous cases that the Note 3 had cheated on bench marks. I'm not saying HTC hasn't cheated either, but just something to realize that benchmarks aren't everything and can be easily fabricated with some from of performance setting (i.e. higher clocks or performance governor).
My insights below. Maybe biased in the eyes of Samsung
After owning both the One M7 and S5 - I had a better experience on the m7 and the screen on the Samsung is very thin that it broke after I dropped it on the ground. I personally see a lot of people with broken digitizer's on the bus and this is probably why. In my case, my next phone will either be a Sony or a HTC. If you guys are wondering if warranty protects against this, it doesn't unless the phone's digitizer doesn't respond at all that means I'm not covered by warranty at all. Something to realize when buying any from of warranty.
that is inevitable, cortex A57 is a big and hot core

Exynos variant posts both better performance AND battery life?

So, Ars Technica just published its review of the Galaxy S7, which goes super in-depth. And in it, some things aren't surprising: the intl 8890 spanks the US 820 models, but here's the one that's surprising.
Not surprising
Rather surprising
Very surprising
So not only does the Exynos have noticeably better benchmark performance, it also lasts longer on a charge. And while the E8890 was tested in the UK labs, while the US labs tested the S820 version, the difference should not be that big. And with the early reports of the S820's GPU being noticeably better than the E8890's proven wrong in that same review (it is slightly better, but with differences of only 1 or 2 fps), it begs the question why Samsung didn't go all Exynos again, especially since it home-grows these chips, it theoretically should be cheaper for them to just use these. I know Samsung has a partnership or something with Qualcomm, but when your product is better than theirs in every way, doesn't it just make more sense to go with the better one?
I'm happy Australia gets exynos
sigh. typical.
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The thing is, and always seems to be, that a quick search on Google for Snapdragon VS Exynos S7 performance shows plenty of legitimate tests that swing either way in favor of one or the other depending on which test(s) you believe. The above illustrated (in the OP) is just one of the tests. Many will show results in favor of the Snapdragon. Generally speaking, the pattern seems to support the Exynos being slightly better at intense gaming while the Snapdragon seems to be slightly better at day-to-day tasks.
That being said, I think it's ridiculous to split hairs when it comes to slight performance differences that 99.5% of most users will never notice. It's not a topic worth arguing about (though many still will). It just comes down to whose test do you want to believe over the next guys. Debating such small differences can be fun, but it won't make one variety of S7 any better than the other at the end of the day.
Here is just one of the many examples that show results a bit different than in the OP:
http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-s7s-snapdragon-820-vs-exynos-8890-preliminary-showdown-2334571
Again, for every site that shows one shine above the other there is another site that will show it differently. Either way, either processor, the S7 is a great phone (if your not a developer in the US).
Real world use there is no difference
Would love the exynos version
Performance: Similar
Batterylife: Exynos way ahead
It's obvious after reading the battery life threads, Exynos version is much better.
CLARiiON said:
Performance: Similar
Batterylife: Exynos way ahead
It's obvious after reading the battery life threads, Exynos version is much better.
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Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI7jkyRwa8A
(S7 - Exynos, S7E - S820)
hung2900 said:
Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
(S7 - Exynos, S7E - S820)
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It's not a totally fair fight, S7 always has slight edge over S7 edge. I don't have any theory to support this, but I've read a lot of S7/edge benchmark and S7 always have 300->1k point higher than S7 edge
Still, 6 or 7 second lower in some game loading is a noticeable margin. Also, in this video, he only tested app loading time so it's not the end of the story. He said that he's gonna upload a new video about real FPS performance then, we shall see if Snapdragon can make a come back.
And one reason why Samsung use Snapdragon variant in US is due to LTE network spec that only Snapdragon chip support or sth. Also can't remember where I read that )
hung2900 said:
Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI7jkyRwa8A
(S7 - Exynos, S7E - S820)
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I have no clue what he is saying in that clip, is he running an SD-card on either phone and do he have any apps moved to those SD-cards?
LeVvE said:
I have no clue what he is saying in that clip, is he running an SD-card on either phone and do he have an apps moved to those SD-cards?
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He didn't say anything about that. He just install 20 same games and apps on both devices, and then use same 3G network carrier (which is Mobifone - Vietnam) and then speed test their loading time. I don't think he used SD card at all. Most of the time he just said that he though Snapdragon version should be faster but apparently it's not. Also, some app, like Dictionary and Chicken invader, the S7 Exynos doesn't restart the app, just normal resume, while S7 Edge SD820 need to restart the app. That's all about it.
wow, sd820 performance in that video is horrible.
Anyone know if Samsung pay works In the US on the exynos galaxy s7
Ace6644 said:
Anyone know if Samsung pay works In the US on the exynos galaxy s7
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You should ask that in the S7 Help section rather than take this thread off-topic.
hung2900 said:
Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI7jkyRwa8A
(S7 - Exynos, S7E - S820)
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That is literally one of the worst attempts at a comparison video I have ever watched (partially watched anyway). If people are going to do real world tests...they need to do them correctly.
scott14719 said:
That is literally one of the worst attempts at a comparison video I have ever watched (partially watched anyway). If people are going to do real world tests...they need to do them correctly.
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Must hurt to see the device you own doing crappy and so very easy to throw out "O thats not a valid comparison".
Have you been under a rock ? Many many many have reported, lag, heat, jittery slo mo, crappy battery life, crappy audio for the subpar built in Qualcomm DAC. with the SD820 S7 implementation.
insomnia said:
Must hurt to see the device you own doing crappy and so very easy to throw out "O thats not a valid comparison".
Have you been under a rock ? Many many many have reported, lag, heat, jittery slo mo, crappy battery life, crappy audio for the subpar built in Qualcomm DAC. with the SD820 S7 implementation.
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Sounds like you're losing sleep over it. I couldn't resist.
Exynos-powered Galaxy S7 appears to be faster than its Snapdragon 820 counterpart
If you take the two side-by-side comparisons uploaded to YouTube into account, it appears that the Exynos 8890 variant of the Galaxy S7 is actually significantly more powerful than the Snapdragon 820-driven Galaxy S7. Not only does this model boot and open applications faster but it also renders video at a significantly faster rate.
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Side by side cool, but in real world use there is no difference. The exynos has better battery life
insomnia said:
Must hurt to see the device you own doing crappy and so very easy to throw out "O thats not a valid comparison".
Have you been under a rock ? Many many many have reported, lag, heat, jittery slo mo, crappy battery life, crappy audio for the subpar built in Qualcomm DAC. with the SD820 S7 implementation.
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Are you 5 years old? Comparing a foriegn S7 against an American S7 Edge...knowing the Edge has more things running in the background due to "Edge" specific functions, as well as the modem limitations in a foriegn land and that is a good comparison?
Go troll elsewhere.
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Are you 5 years old? Comparing a foriegn S7 against an American S7 Edge...knowing the Edge has more things running in the background due to "Edge" specific functions, as well as the modem limitations in a foriegn land and that is a good comparison?
Go troll elsewhere.
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Why are you so salty?
The thing is both devices are Int versions (G9350 and G930F), so your argument about "modem limitation" is not valid.
And about the edge features, here is the evidence that it is negligible.
https://youtu.be/28FjDWmLli8

T810 vs T813

I've been wanting to get rid of my iPad in favor of an Android tablet for a while now. The 3 is just so slow doing anything at all, and I'm on iOS; I hate it. I looked at Android tablets a while ago, but nothing really came of it. Now that I have CyanogenMod 13 on my VZW Note 4, I've been looking into tablets with decent specs and the ability to run CM.
The Tab S2 seems like the perfect device for this, since I get Android, specs that beat out even the newest iPad easily (let alone my 3), and the possibility of CyanogenMod. Here's where I'm a little confused though. I'm planning on getting the 9.7" version of this tablet, just so it's closer to the size of my iPad (I would have no trouble with a larger difference and transition if it was needed, but I figure I'll keep it simple), so that part is pretty much decided. The model numbers are where I get confused.
I've looked it up and can see that the T810 and T813 are pretty much the same except the T810 has Exynos while the T813 has Snapdragon. Everything I've heard says Snapdragon is better and easier for ROM development. However, I don't see CyanogenMod for the T813. I do see Resurrection Remix for the T810/5, which I'll gladly take, but I didn't see any obviously AOSP ROMs for the T813.
So my questions are: is there a CM-based (AOSP based will work too) ROM for the T813? If there isn't, why isn't there if it's easier to develop for? Is the T810 better even though it's Exynos? Should I just wait until September to see if they announce a Tab S3?
I don't care about pricing between the two, since it's only a $2-3 difference on Amazon, which is nothing when the thing costs $400 (which seems surprisingly cheap).
Only the T810 has CM - the T813 does not.
That being said, TouchWiz has gotten so fast and good lately, that I would not consider that as a factor, its just as fast as AOSP nowadays.
The T813 will - since it's newer - officially get Android N, as well.
I would get the T813 if I were you.
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Only the T810 has CM - the T813 does not.
That being said, TouchWiz has gotten so fast and good lately, that I would not consider that as a factor, its just as fast as AOSP nowadays.
The T813 will - since it's newer - officially get Android N, as well.
I would get the T813 if I were you.
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OK. I just hate TouchWiz, since it's fast when it's new on the device, but ends up getting really slow.
Since I'm going to wait out the warranty anyway, and by that time CM might be out, I guess T813 is better.
Thanks!
Zacharee1 said:
OK. I just hate TouchWiz, since it's fast when it's new on the device, but ends up getting really slow.
Since I'm going to wait out the warranty anyway, and by that time CM might be out, I guess T813 is better.
Thanks!
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The latest TW (2015+) doesn't really slow down at all, I've had an S6 for about a year and its just as fast as new.
There is nobody working on CM for the T813. CM does not come without somebody making it! (I lied. I'm working on it myself, but my skills are so low, I doubt it will ever happen.)
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The latest TW (2015+) doesn't really slow down at all, I've had an S6 for about a year and its just as fast as new.
There is nobody working on CM for the T813. CM does not come without somebody making it! (I lied. I'm working on it myself, but my skills are so low, I doubt it will ever happen.)
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I'm fine with waiting for one to maybe arrive. After all, I had to do it for 1.5 years on my phone . Maybe by the time my warranty is up, you'll have learned how to build CM .
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I'm fine with waiting for one to maybe arrive. After all, I had to do it for 1.5 years on my phone . Maybe by the time my warranty is up, you'll have learned how to build CM .
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I've done it for other devices before but this one is a pain.
Why would you wait until warranty is up to root/ROM it?
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I've done it for other devices before but this one is a pain.
Why would you wait until warranty is up to root/ROM it?
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Does it not have a KNOX counter for custom flashing?
It's more of an anxiety thing ("what'll happen if I flash something and it dies later on?"), since I know if I break it it's more likely going to be from a fall, but I want to keep it intact, even as much as I hate TW.
What's the bad thing about this device that makes it so difficult?
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Does it not have a KNOX counter for custom flashing?
It's more of an anxiety thing ("what'll happen if I flash something and it dies later on?"), since I know if I break it it's more likely going to be from a fall, but I want to keep it intact, even as much as I hate TW.
What's the bad thing about this device that makes it so difficult?
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Because its so unique. On the other devices I got things working on, there were other devices with the same specs that I could borrow code from.
The T813/T713 is the only popular device with a Snapdragon 652, so I have to completely start from scratch.
Also - if I break my tablet and it won't turn on, how would Samsung be able to tell the Knox flag was tripped?
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Because its so unique. On the other devices I got things working on, there were other devices with the same specs that I could borrow code from.
The T813/T713 is the only popular device with a Snapdragon 652, so I have to completely start from scratch.
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The Snapdragon and Exynos variants are really that different, huh?
Zacharee1 said:
The Snapdragon and Exynos variants are really that different, huh?
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Completely different chipsets, motherboards, CPUs, GPUs, drivers, etc.
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Completely different chipsets, motherboards, CPUs, GPUs, drivers, etc.
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Wow. I wonder why they didn't just market it as a different tablet. Apple gets away with changing one or two things and calling it new, so you'd think Samsung would try it.
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Wow. I wonder why they didn't just market it as a different tablet. Apple gets away with changing one or two things and calling it new, so you'd think Samsung would try it.
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Yeah I agree. Samsung already has too many tablets though, and they struggle to update them all.
Do you play heavy games a lot? Because the T813 is *slightly* slower in gaming then the T710
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Yeah I agree. Samsung already has too many tablets though, and they struggle to update them all.
Do you play heavy games a lot? Because the T813 is *slightly* slower in gaming then the T710
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No, I don't. I barely even game. It's mostly YouTube and Netflix and some web browsing when I'm not near a computer. I like the bigger screen because it's easier to type. On an iPad Mini, it's really hard, and 8.0 isn't much bigger than 7.9.
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No, I don't. I barely even game. It's mostly YouTube and Netflix and some web browsing when I'm not near a computer. I like the bigger screen because it's easier to type. On an iPad Mini, it's really hard, and 8.0 isn't much bigger than 7.9.
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If you do a lot of typing, get a small bluetooth keyboard.
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If you do a lot of typing, get a small bluetooth keyboard.
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Not good for portability. The typing is more of a convenience than necessity.
Why is the 710 faster than the 813, if you know? I thought the Snapdragon version had better performance, and the screen resolution is the same between the two sizes.
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Not good for portability. The typing is more of a convenience than necessity.
Why is the 710 faster than the 813, if you know? I thought the Snapdragon version had better performance, and the screen resolution is the same between the two sizes.
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Well the Snapdragon has a faster CPU, which is used for most tasks, but the GPU, which is used pretty much only for games, is slightly slower on the Snapdragon,
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Well the Snapdragon has a faster CPU, which is used for most tasks, but the GPU, which is used pretty much only for games, is slightly slower on the Snapdragon,
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Ah. Well I do more tasking than gaming, so I'll go with SD and hope you or someone else releases a CM build for the 813.
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Ah. Well I do more tasking than gaming, so I'll go with SD and hope you or someone else releases a CM build for the 813.
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Don't count on it.
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Don't count on it.
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From you or at all?
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From you or at all?
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At all.

Need some help chosing

Hi guys
Don't know if this is the right spot to post this but, I need some help chosing a smartphone. Since I'm upgrading from a note 3 SM-9005 I would like to upgrade to something similar. So what brings me here to this forum? I love galaxy s7 edge and I would love to get it. But... since I can only buy the international version and from my experience with an galaxy S2 and sammsung 0 suport over the cpu source code, I am afraid the phone dosent get custom rom suport in the future. I've been browsing around and reading a lot, but tbh I'm not totally convinced I should spend money on this since theres a lot of diferent opinions on the device.
Several other things concern me:
The adreno performance is something I like, even though exynos has better batery life (comparing adreno and mali in terms of gaming and everyday usage)
the diference in the camera sensors
Future custom ROM suport
Overal Fragility of the device (I've been browsing around this forum, and saw several complaints about screen cracks, burned out micro USB amongst other problems)
Is the diference between 2k and 1080p displays noticeable?
So guys, I want to known your opinion about this phone. From both exynos and snapdragon users of what makes this phone worth over other brands .
Also, I encourage sugestions of other brands since I want something future proof.
Sorry if my english sucks, but Its not my main language.
Sincerely
Shade
Shadeftw said:
Hi guys
Don't know if this is the right spot to post this but, I need some help chosing a smartphone. Since I'm upgrading from a note 3 SM-9005 I would like to upgrade to something similar. So what brings me here to this forum? I love galaxy s7 edge and I would love to get it. But... since I can only buy the international version and from my experience with an galaxy S2 and sammsung 0 suport over the cpu source code, I am afraid the phone dosent get custom rom suport in the future. I've been browsing around and reading a lot, but tbh I'm not totally convinced I should spend money on this since theres a lot of diferent opinions on the device.
Several other things concern me:
The adreno performance is something I like, even though exynos has better batery life (comparing adreno and mali in terms of gaming and everyday usage)
the diference in the camera sensors
Future custom ROM suport
Overal Fragility of the device (I've been browsing around this forum, and saw several complaints about screen cracks, burned out micro USB amongst other problems)
Is the diference between 2k and 1080p displays noticeable?
So guys, I want to known your opinion about this phone. From both exynos and snapdragon users of what makes this phone worth over other brands .
Also, I encourage sugestions of other brands since I want something future proof.
Sorry if my english sucks, but Its not my main language.
Sincerely
Shade
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Hi shade,
I can answer a few of those questions for you.
Difference in cam sensors, is negligible from what I can tell.
Custom ROMs? Nope. It's all just stock based ROMs with a few tweaks, CM does exist but it's far from stable and plenty of stuff doesn't work yet.
If you're an idiot, it'll break. Be careful, use a thin case, and original cables, and you can't go wrong.
Yes it is, and once you get used to it, 1080p seems a bit... well... boring. Just kidding, the difference is noticeable, but unless you use your phone to watch HD movies, it makes no difference in normal usage like roasting a friend in a group chat or using Snapchat.
I don't have the Snapdragon one, but just know, if you do get one, the chances of getting Custom ROMs goes from 'a bit' to 'none at all' since the SD 820 variants all have locked bootloaders.
If you're really looking for something future proof? How about a OnePlus 3T? You'd save a ton of money, get some more internal storage, 2 extra gigs of RAM and a ton of custom ROM support.
I'll sell you mine with two cases (unicorn beetle pro, clear speck candyshell) and a 2 year square trade warranty! All can be yours, make me an offer I can't refuse!
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I'll sell you mine with two cases (unicorn beetle pro, clear speck candyshell) and a 2 year square trade warranty! All can be yours, make me an offer I can't refuse!
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This was pure genius xD
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Hi shade,
I can answer a few of those questions for you.
Difference in cam sensors, is negligible from what I can tell.
Custom ROMs? Nope. It's all just stock based ROMs with a few tweaks, CM does exist but it's far from stable and plenty of stuff doesn't work yet.
If you're an idiot, it'll break. Be careful, use a thin case, and original cables, and you can't go wrong.
Yes it is, and once you get used to it, 1080p seems a bit... well... boring. Just kidding, the difference is noticeable, but unless you use your phone to watch HD movies, it makes no difference in normal usage like roasting a friend in a group chat or using Snapchat.
I don't have the Snapdragon one, but just know, if you do get one, the chances of getting Custom ROMs goes from 'a bit' to 'none at all' since the SD 820 variants all have locked bootloaders.
If you're really looking for something future proof? How about a OnePlus 3T? You'd save a ton of money, get some more internal storage, 2 extra gigs of RAM and a ton of custom ROM support.
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Thanks for awsering
So the 820 has a locked bootloader? That sucks a lot. Well, I guess with the news that cyanogenmod is dead it isen't relevant anymore. I have a good deal for a S7E Gold for 400€ so I'm going to get it.
Thanks for your help! Merry Christmas
smg9350 is all unlocked and smacks exynos around in the benchmark area. Dont give the guy bad info.
Shadeftw said:
This was pure genius xD
Thanks for awsering
So the 820 has a locked bootloader? That sucks a lot. Well, I guess with the news that cyanogenmod is dead it isen't relevant anymore. I have a good deal for a S7E Gold for 400€ so I'm going to get it.
Thanks for your help! Merry Christmas
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Well travis82 just mentioned that the SM-G9350 which is the Chinese variant has the Snapdragon 820, and an unlocked bootloader.
Just check what bands your carrier uses for 3G and LTE and make sure the phone supports them, if you're interesting in buying the chinese variant.
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smg9350 is all unlocked and smacks exynos around in the benchmark area. Dont give the guy bad info.
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Jeez, okay, no need to get so hostile.
You gotta admit that the Exynos has way better battery life though.
nah i seem to get better battery than exynos varients. more cores doesnt mean better overal. ie: amd vs intel. is one example. but really the op should wait for next years flagships, they will be much better, and a die shrink to boot.
Well I went ahead and bought the phone. So now I am suprised that it has the xsg csc. Do you guys known if I can flash my country's original stock rom without tripping knox?

Samsung finally getting the Bad Recognition they Deserve!

The Exynos version of the Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra is being hammered with complaints!
https://www.techspot.com/news/84872-exynos-version-galaxy-s20-ultra-hammered-complaints.html
Maybe Samsung should eat the loss before it gets worse? Replace all EXYNOS phones with Snapdragons? This turning into another Note7 Scandal!
The Exynos used in the global variant of the device lags behind the market competition.
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Maybe Samsung should eat the loss before it gets worse? Replace all EXYNOS phones with Snapdragons? This turning into another Note7 Scandal!
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LOL no way Samsung will do that. It's an inferior chip 4 sure, so don't buy it at all or return it. Samsung will automatically understand.
I love how people are completely losing their minds over a 5-10% performance and battery life difference. Are you earning your income from "professional" gaming on your phone or something? No? Didn't think so. Don't worry about it. Exynos models are ridiculously cheap, take better pictures, and are rootable unlike most Snapdragon models ??????
TheNetwork said:
I love how people are completely losing their minds over a 5-10% performance and battery life difference. Are you earning your income from "professional" gaming on your phone or something? No? Didn't think so. Don't worry about it. Exynos models are ridiculously cheap, take better pictures, and are rootable unlike most Snapdragon models ??????
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who gives a **** about root nowadays and why shouldnt we as you say "lose our minds" we paid ****ing good money for this and yea we been cheated and samsung know it latest update killed fast charge by 30 mins why should we suffer coz of their mistakes iv not seen one snapdragon complaint yet 1000s of exynos now you tell me is that right ?
TheNetwork said:
I love how people are completely losing their minds over a 5-10% performance and battery life difference. Are you earning your income from "professional" gaming on your phone or something? No? Didn't think so. Don't worry about it. Exynos models are ridiculously cheap, take better pictures, and are rootable unlike most Snapdragon models
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I happen live in the U.S. so I have the Superior Snapdragon chipset. Currently no issues with phone. I just feel bad for people that got shafted with Samsung's piece of S**t chipset.
TheNetwork said:
I love how people are completely losing their minds over a 5-10% performance and battery life difference. Are you earning your income from "professional" gaming on your phone or something? No? Didn't think so. Don't worry about it. Exynos models are ridiculously cheap, take better pictures, and are rootable unlike most Snapdragon models
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+1
I don’t play games and have not rooted for over 5 years ... but after 2 weeks using an Exynos S20 Ultra it’s the best Samsung phone I have ever owned.
Picture quality is excellent
I have never noticed a heat problem
I get 2 days battery life between charges
Yes, in benchmarks Exynos 990 is not as fast as SD865 but it’s more than fast enough
Also did anyone else read that Google are working with Samsung on custom CPU for future Pixels?
Manufacturers are fed up getting ripped off with high prices of Snapdragon CPUs
Better get used to non SD CPU in phones there are gonna be a lot more of them in the future!
One thing i will say tho, if Samsung saves money using Exynos chips in non US handsets they should pass the saving to loyal customers via a $100 lower price in the stores for Exynos variants (Or free Buds+ bundles etc)
dezborders said:
+1
I don’t play games and have not rooted for over 5 years ... but after 2 weeks using an Exynos S20 Ultra it’s the best Samsung phone I have ever owned.
Picture quality is excellent
I have never noticed a heat problem
I get 2 days battery life between charges
Yes, in benchmarks Exynos 990 is not as fast as SD865 but it’s more than fast enough
Also did anyone else read that Google are working with Samsung on custom CPU for future Pixels?
Manufacturers are fed up getting ripped off with high prices of Snapdragon CPUs
Better get used to non SD CPU in phones there are gonna be a lot more of them in the future!
One thing i will say tho, if Samsung saves money using Exynos chips in non US handsets they should pass the saving buck to loyal customers via a $100 lower price in the stores for Exynos variants (Or free Buds+ bundles etc)
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You do get free buds+ and Samsung care+ (free cracked screen replacement) in here.
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mohammed510 said:
You do get free buds+ and Samsung care+ (free cracked screen replacement) in here.
Sent from my SM-G988B using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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That is true, but due to covid19 situation, we are still waiting for buds+ to be delivered.
Back on topic, after last update with april patch, exynos works great!
djoxie said:
That is true, but due to covid19 situation, we are still waiting for buds+ to be delivered.
Back on topic, after last update with april patch, exynos works great!
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Not a problem in UK ... submitted claim 10 days ago and received my Buds+ today
i did the last update but still im having the issues im passed my return window due to the covid situation in my countries any suggestion !!>>? i called them and explained the situation they offered me repair but we all know its a chip issue so what should i do ?? any suggestions?
If I'm being completely honest. I dont game on my phone - i have my 2020 iPad Pro for that. I have heavily debloated the sh!t thats not needed on my S20 Ultra and my battery easily lasts me an entire day with around 30% remaining when i head to bed. The performance aspect means fcuk all to me because i dont use my phone to run resource intensive apps - hardcore apps like games, video editing etc. My battery life was absolute garbage when i first got the phone but over time, it's gotten a lot better. I'm not going to sit down and cry over a 5-10% difference between the SD and 990, theirs more important things going on in the world at the moment.
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If I'm being completely honest. I dont game on my phone - i have my 2020 iPad Pro for that. I have heavily debloated the sh!t thats not needed on my S20 Ultra and my battery easily lasts me an entire day with around 30% remaining when i head to bed. The performance aspect means fcuk all to me because i dont use my phone to run resource intensive apps - hardcore apps like games, video editing etc. My battery life was absolute garbage when i first got the phone but over time, it's gotten a lot better. I'm not going to sit down and cry over a 5-10% difference between the SD and 990, theirs more important things going on in the world at the moment.
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As much as I agree with you on the triviality of the matter I do understand how people could be pissed off at paying the same price for an inferior product
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Fact is, people with exynos in their region are getting scammed. People with SnapDragon don't exist in a parallel universe! There is the same device in existence that's better then the other! Why? That's not ok.
Samsung should get sued for this scam. We should make a class action.
Still no news over the 512gb model of the s20 ultra , will it ever turn up , and with which chipset , cant find any news on that phone even with samsung still holding my 1500
peekie said:
Still no news over the 512gb model of the s20 ultra , will it ever turn up , and with which chipset , cant find any news on that phone even with samsung still holding my 1500
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I have the 512gb and battery life is shocking
chieco said:
Fact is, people with exynos in their region are getting scammed. People with SnapDragon don't exist in a parallel universe! There is the same device in existence that's better then the other! Why? That's not ok.
Samsung should get sued for this scam. We should make a class action.
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i belive so too but not many people do
the issue is not everyone is a heavy user but the device faces issues even with medium use like video chat heating to 45C this isnt okay
i never regreted a purchase from samsung
i really want them to do something about it
i called their call center n all they offered was repairs n if the issue isnt fixed a replacement but we all know its a chipset issue so same **** again
at this point i dont know what to do
thing is i do notice that it overheats and throttles in gaming. i'd ordinarily be pissed right off. but i got the 16gb/512gb model (with warranty) for like £850 second hand as new. If i paid £1499 for it I would be seriously pissed off.

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