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[Q] Is this the best phone for 400€?

As the topic title says, i'm looking for a new phone to replace my boring xperia s (bootloader loocked...) and the maximum i wanna spend is 400€. So,for this money the oppo find 5 is the best option? The feature that i most apreciate is taking photos, and my xperia s do it very well...
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The camera is OK but nothing amazing in my experience which is fine for me and Faux kernel has done wonders my battery life (+30-40%). Not sure the camera can compare to the Xperia.
Despite those niggles, I'd recommend the F5 above others to friends if asked but it depends on your needs. I certainly prefer it over the Note 2 and Nexus 4. For me is the sweet spot between size, screen, performance and design.
What else is on your short list?
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Exactly the switch I made XS->Find5. I thought about getting the HTC One or the S4, but since I planned on running a custom ROM, I didn't want to pay for features I wouldn't use anyway.
Regrets? No. The Find5 has a Sony Sensor as camera, AFAIK the same as in the XZ. On stock ROM, the cam is pretty good, not so much on custom ROMs, though, usual closed source binary blob problems.

vitorugo-8 said:
As the topic title says, i'm looking for a new phone to replace my boring xperia s (bootloader loocked...) and the maximum i wanna spend is 400€. So,for this money the oppo find 5 is the best option? The feature that i most apreciate is taking photos, and my xperia s do it very well...
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Hi!
If you are looking a brand new one, maybe this is the one with best camera for this price (I dont know anything about Nokia and WP) you can buy for that amount.
If you dont mind, maybe you can take a Xperia Z (same sensor, but better app) in the second market.
P.S: Yes, this is my first post in about 3 years LOL! (I prefer reading)
Regards from sPAIN

kinghu said:
The camera is OK but nothing amazing in my experience which is fine for me and Faux kernel has done wonders my battery life (+30-40%). Not sure the camera can compare to the Xperia.
Despite those niggles, I'd recommend the F5 above others to friends if asked but it depends on your needs. I certainly prefer it over the Note 2 and Nexus 4. For me is the sweet spot between size, screen, performance and design.
What else is on your short list?
-- From my Find 5
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at the beggining i was thinking about xperia z (i'm a huge fan of the xperia line) or htc one (i don't like the samsung plastic), but i reconsidered that ... 550€ or more for a phone? i think it´s to much, so i stablished the 400€ limit, and for that money, and new phones (not used) i'm in between nexus 4 or the oppo find 5 ( i believe they are the only with superb specs and not so expensive phones ). But the nexus 4 is 4.7 inch screen, and an 8mp camera ( but i guess the 8mp i just a number).
3 things that i consider in a phone : camera; battery; development.
So, what you guys say?

If camera is a priority then you may be better looking elsewhere.
The Find 5 camera is OK in good light but struggles otherwise. My wife has a Nexus 4 and I don't rate that camera either.
-- From my Find 5

I agree the Oppo is nothing to get mad excited about. The camera is very noisy. Actually in HDR mode my pictures on the Nexus 4 turned out way better!

CodeX86 said:
I agree the Oppo is nothing to get mad excited about. The camera is very noisy. Actually in HDR mode my pictures on the Nexus 4 turned out way better!
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so the camera is worst than an xperia s?

vitorugo-8 said:
so the camera is worst than an xperia s?
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Never had the chance to compare to a Xperia S.
But for the claims made by their commercial it doesn't live up to the promise.
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kinghu said:
The camera is OK but nothing amazing in my experience which is fine for me and Faux kernel has done wonders my battery life (+30-40%). Not sure the camera can compare to the Xperia.
Despite those niggles, I'd recommend the F5 above others to friends if asked but it depends on your needs. I certainly prefer it over the Note 2 and Nexus 4. For me is the sweet spot between size, screen, performance and design.
What else is on your short list?
-- From my Find 5
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I too am interested in this phone, one of my main concerns is battery life.
When you say you have about 30-40% more battery life, how many screen on time are you talking about? 5-6 hours?
Thank you.

Elwood_It said:
I too am interested in this phone, one of my main concerns is battery life.
When you say you have about 30-40% more battery life, how many screen on time are you talking about? 5-6 hours?
Thank you.
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Well you can forget the Stock firmware even with fauxes Kernel it will suck you dry. The best experience as far as battery life i had so far was with Cyanogenmod. Even so it is not running an optimized Kernel it seems to handle power mangement way better!
5-6 hours screen on is way over what you will be able to achieve with normal day 2 day use. For sure you will max out at the moment at 4 hours screen on time.
If you are looking for a new phone with lot's of battery life i would hold of another 1-2 month and see what others have to offer because Oppo didn't even release 4.2 yet but they are planning on in early August. Until then don't bother!

so, in conclusion, despite the problems with the camera ( which i think it's a software problem, not hardware ) for 400€, and with a custom rom, the oppo it's the best phone on the market?

CodeX86 said:
Well you can forget the Stock firmware even with fauxes Kernel it will suck you dry. The best experience as far as battery life i had so far was with Cyanogenmod. Even so it is not running an optimized Kernel it seems to handle power mangement way better!
5-6 hours screen on is way over what you will be able to achieve with normal day 2 day use. For sure you will max out at the moment at 4 hours screen on time.
If you are looking for a new phone with lot's of battery life i would hold of another 1-2 month and see what others have to offer because Oppo didn't even release 4.2 yet but they are planning on in early August. Until then don't bother!
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Thank you very much for the answer!

camera is far from bad.. not the best in low light and yes noise can be a problem but i walked out in garden snapped some pics
nothing wrong with it IMO, i actually think its quite good! a lot better than my s2 was.

grudas said:
camera is far from bad.. not the best in low light and yes noise can be a problem but i walked out in garden snapped some pics
nothing wrong with it IMO, i actually think its quite good! a lot better than my s2 was.
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uou those pictures are amazing ... i'm not any expert, but i think the picture quality are far from bad ... are you using any tweak or something? or it's the stock camera app?

vitorugo-8 said:
uou those pictures are amazing ... i'm not any expert, but i think the picture quality are far from bad ... are you using any tweak or something? or it's the stock camera app?
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stock camera and stock rom only thing i've done is root and kill the stock launcher, thats it no editing on those either straight out of the phone in full res.

Elwood_It said:
I too am interested in this phone, one of my main concerns is battery life.
When you say you have about 30-40% more battery life, how many screen on time are you talking about? 5-6 hours?
Thank you.
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Sorry just saw this... I've tried most of the stock/beta ROMs and as a light to moderate user, it lasts me about 24-36 hours. Without faux kernel I would get around 3 to 3.5 hours screen on (email, twitter, browser, Tapatalk, watching a TV show, taking pics/video and a few calls).
With faux setup for battery life, I can get 4.5 to 5 hours doing the same stuff and there isn't really a performance hit as I'm not doing much needing the phone to run at full speed for long.
It was really the idle drain that was killing it at around ~1.5%-2% per hour rather than ~0.8% with faux. Usually, I'm on wifi and have GPS on and leave them on when sleeping so it was overnight that saw a big improvement.

grudas said:
stock camera and stock rom only thing i've done is root and kill the stock launcher, thats it no editing on those either straight out of the phone in full res.
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Yeah I used Stock to for a while and when you do close ups the camera makes some pretty nice pictures. But as soon as contrasts aren't really there anymore it gets potentially noisy.
I mean how much can you really expect from a smartphone camera sensor without any optics to adjust depth.
Your pictures are nice. I made some nice ones myself but they don't measure up to HTC One's Ultrapixel contrast and light condition abilities.
Funny part about all of this is probably that drivers neither on Stock or Custom are really optimized.
I do though still think the state the phone is in right now it is not worth it. Neither Stock Software nor Custom give you a really great experience with the device right now.

CodeX86 said:
I do though still think the state the phone is in right now it is not worth it. Neither Stock Software nor Custom give you a really great experience with the device right now.
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After trying numerous stock and custom ROM/kernel combinations, I have to disagree. Last week's Chinese Firefly is, IMO, very usable in terms of performance, battery life, and reliability.
I posted some findings here:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/project-firefly-v1-0-0_3186b.2016/page-19#post-53441

kinghu said:
After trying numerous stock and custom ROM/kernel combinations, I have to disagree. Last week's Chinese Firefly is, IMO, very usable in terms of performance, battery life, and reliability.
I posted some findings here:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/project-firefly-v1-0-0_3186b.2016/page-19#post-53441
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Yeah and you will have to lay a little more weight on chinese open beta...

May be Switching from Note 3 to Moto X Pure

So obviously it's about time for me to get a new phone, considering mine is never going to make it past 5.0 lollipop and various other reasons. I just want to know what to expect if I do end up getting the Moto X Pure. Will I be happy/satisfied with my purchase? Will there be a huge learning curve?
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spookykidmm said:
So obviously it's about time for me to get a new phone, considering mine is never going to make it past 5.0 lollipop and various other reasons. I just want to know what to expect if I do end up getting the Moto X Pure. Will I be happy/satisfied with my purchase? Will there be a huge learning curve?
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I would say go for it if you don't care about the Spen. The Note 3 is a great phone but I enjoy the Pure alot more. There is no bloat to speak of and you can unlock the bootloader and flash whatever you want. Camera wise the Pure is better. I especially like the Moto display where you can wave your hand in front of the lock screen to see your notifications and unlock it instead of pressing buttons. I would suggest to get at least a 32GB or more model. I currently have the 16GB one and find it too small so I have a 64GB on it's way. It makes things easier when flashing ROMs because you don't need to format the external SD to adaptive storage.

Misterxtc said:
I would say go for it if you don't care about the Spen. The Note 3 is a great phone but I enjoy the Pure alot more. There is no bloat to speak of and you can unlock the bootloader and flash whatever you want. Camera wise the Pure is better. I especially like the Moto display where you can wave your hand in front of the lock screen to see your notifications and unlock it instead of pressing buttons. I would suggest to get at least a 32GB or more model. I currently have the 16GB one and find it too small so I have a 64GB on it's way. It makes things easier when flashing ROMs because you don't need to format the external SD to adaptive storage.
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Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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spookykidmm said:
Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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I can't totally answer that yet because I just got this one a few days ago and have been flashing things quite a bit. So far I'm happy with it.

Misterxtc said:
I can't totally answer that yet because I just got this one a few days ago and have been flashing things quite a bit. So far I'm happy with it.
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Alright well thank you anyway
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spookykidmm said:
Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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Im not sure why those reviews say that.
I constantly get 4 - 5hrs screen on time, occasionally it'll get 6hrs screen on time, that was on stock non rooted.
I've also recently rooted and flashed xposed with gravity box and still continue to get very acceptable battery life.
i have the US version of the Pure. Not sure if my phone just got a good battery.

spookykidmm said:
Any issues/quirks I should know of? A review I read said it doesn't really have an amazing battery life
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I came from note 3 as well. On it since it came out. I've seen quite a spread on what people get. I'll low ball and say definitely 3 1/2, 4 1/2 with some management. Better build than 3 (expected). You'll have to get used to the color changes. Samsung saturates, so remember that. Someone posted getting 32 at least. I definitely agree with that statement. Don't bother with 16, even with the availability of SD card. Great radio. Unlocked for carriers. Price can't be beat. Only other option would be Nexus 6P.
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Misterxtc said:
I can't totally answer that yet because I just got this one a few days ago and have been flashing things quite a bit. So far I'm happy with it.
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What ROM do you use?
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I was running stock until a couple hours ago and decided to try AICP. So far it's running great.

Def agree with everyone to get 32gb or above. What took me by surprise is this phone has no LED notification.....unless your rooted and running a rom which supports it (most do). Also when you root you will be able to control doze much more efficiently and get much better standby battery. This has the brightest screen I have ever seen (have it on 5%-10% while indoors), great audio jack/speaker sound/reception/camera and battery charges ridiculously quick. It's safe to say you will love this phone.

plz dont buy, battery life is pathetic and if you use xposed it would be worse, i mean really really worse, it feels like 2000mah sometimes :/ , i need to sell it now, and using old nexus 6 again

Aftab_khatri said:
plz dont buy, battery life is pathetic and if you use xposed it would be worse, i mean really really worse, it feels like 2000mah sometimes :/ , i need to sell it now, and using old nexus 6 again
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@spookykidmm, don't listen to this clown. Xposed doesn't affect battery life. If you're running some janky modules, you could run in to issues, but that's not Xposed. Additionally, normal battery life is not pathetic. Battery life on the Galaxy S6 is pathetic. I usually average between 5-6 hrs SOT depending on usage (with or without Xposed). Typically the people on here that complain are in the minority... that's true for nearly every phone. And a lot of times, they screw things up on their own and blame the phone

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@spookykidmm, don't listen to this clown. Xposed doesn't affect battery life. If you're running some janky modules, you could run in to issues, but that's not Xposed. Additionally, normal battery life is not pathetic. Battery life on the Galaxy S6 is pathetic. I usually average between 5-6 hrs SOT depending on usage (with or without Xposed). Typically the people on here that complain are in the minority... that's true for nearly every phone. And a lot of times, they screw things up on their own and blame the phone
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Do you think root and xposed is necessary for a good experience?
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spookykidmm said:
Do you think root and xposed is necessary for a good experience?
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Not at all.

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Not at all.
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Aftab_khatri said:
plz dont buy, battery life is pathetic and if you use xposed it would be worse, i mean really really worse, it feels like 2000mah sometimes :/ , i need to sell it now, and using old nexus 6 again
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Since battery depends on many variables like screen brightness, signal strength, apps installed, sync frequency, etc....your setup could be giving you horrible battery life, but explain to me how xposed makes battery that much worse....you must have many modules incorrectly configured.

My girlfriend upgraded from her Note 3 to the Moto X Pure when I upgraded at the same time from my LG G4 to this and we're both EXTREMELY satisfied. Dev support is on the rise so you'll have a few choices in ROMs. I'm currently rockin' TruPureXMM v2.5 with Franken Kernel using his Battery Profile settings, xPosed with GravityBox, Amplify & XGPM and can honestly say I couldn't be much happier with the experience overall.
We have the 64 GB models and neither of us use an sdCard since it's been more than enough for us. Google Photos keeps our photos stored and Google Play Music is our choice of service (Family Plan for $14.99 a month) which lets us stream our over 23,000 song collection and gives us access to any song on Google Play with no ads and since we have T-Mobile the music streaming isn't going against our high speed data, which is very nice. As other are saying, you will enjoy the dual-front speakers, the screen is great, and battery life is within reasonable acceptance. You can squeeze more out of it fairly easily with some tweaking and the quick-charge is INSANE. You can't beat the charger that comes with this phone.

Selling My Mate 8

Hey all, I just wanted to let you all know that I'm selling my Mate 8. I recently purchased a Nexus 6P which I love so the Mate 8 must go. I will still try and make the Twisted Mate 8 and Stock roms for the Mate 8 but I'll just need a tester or two. I listed my phone on Swappa just now and hopefully it will find a good home.

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+1000

Could you tell us why?
I'm also thinking about it, but I'm curious what is your motives?

arkadi said:
Could you tell us why?
I'm also thinking about it, but I'm curious what is your motives?
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I bought a Nexus 6P. We will never see any custom roms other than what's based on stock on the Mate 8. Plus the Nexus 6P has a better camera, stereo speakers and stock android which there are a ton of roms for. I love the Mate 8 but I'm selling it and looking to buy something like the P9 Max if it ever is released or something over 6 inches.

ajsmsg78 said:
I bought a Nexus 6P. We will never see any custom roms other than what's based on stock on the Mate 8. Plus the Nexus 6P has a better camera, stereo speakers and stock android which there are a ton of roms for. I love the Mate 8 but I'm selling it and looking to buy something like the P9 Max if it ever is released or something over 6 inches.
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I can totally understand you.
Love the Mate 8 too, but hate the lack of custom ROMS.
Need the dual SIM for work, otherwise I would have decided on a Nexus 6p.

Don't forget the notification issues on mate 8. I have tried every ROM for AL10 and the all have this bug. I use the phone for work and need the app: root call sms manager to work with timer scheduler. It opens for call on my work sim card when at work, and disables then when work ends. But it is not working and always delayed because of this bug. My xperia Z5 dual works perfect with this app, but only have the half battery life of mate 8. And no!!
Is does not help to disable doze, use greenify or make the app a system app. It's really sad...
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bufordtjustice said:
Don't forget the notification issues on mate 8. I have tried every ROM for AL10 and the all have this bug. I use the phone for work and need the app: root call sms manager to work with timer scheduler. It opens for call on my work sim card when at work, and disables then when work ends. But it is not working and always delayed because of this bug. My xperia Z5 dual works perfect with this app, but only have the half battery life of mate 8. And no!!
Is does not help to disable doze, use greenify or make the app a system app. It's really sad...
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This is what makes me want to sell mine. I've been working on a fix for so long that I'm about to give up and sell it. Other than this the phone is wonderful.
@ajsmsg78 hopefully you continue sharing your knowledge and work with the community.

Ephemera said:
This is what makes me want to sell mine. I've been working on a fix for so long that I'm about to give up and sell it. Other than this the phone is wonderful.
@ajsmsg78 hopefully you continue sharing your knowledge and work with the community.
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Yes seriously looking into switching to either 6p or S7 edge.
On the other hand still hoping that all these issues with the Mate 8 will be solved at some point.

bufordtjustice said:
Don't forget the notification issues on mate 8. I have tried every ROM for AL10 and the all have this bug. I use the phone for work and need the app: root call sms manager to work with timer scheduler. It opens for call on my work sim card when at work, and disables then when work ends. But it is not working and always delayed because of this bug. My xperia Z5 dual works perfect with this app, but only have the half battery life of mate 8. And no!!
Is does not help to disable doze, use greenify or make the app a system app. It's really sad...
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I don't have the notification issues after enabling wifi and mobile data during sleep but yeah the notification issues shouldn't have even been there to begin with. I have mine on Swappa but the low ball deals people are offering me are ridiculous.

I have notification problems and nothing has worked, i wasted hours trying to get them to work.. I am going to wait till the galaxy note 6 to come out and give this phone to my parents because everyone one is low balling me on craigslist...
Notification are important to me because this is my work phone, I have to carry my note 4 when I'm on call, pretty annoying to always have two phones..

Well guys, the phone has been sold. I'll still be around helping out and doing the smaller stuff.

ajsmsg78 said:
I don't have the notification issues after enabling wifi and mobile data during sleep but yeah the notification issues shouldn't have even been there to begin with. I have mine on Swappa but the low ball deals people are offering me are ridiculous.
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Enable wi-fi and data did decrease the delay, but it did not fix it. On my Z5 dual notification comes instantly as they should. I use my mate 8 only for gaming now until Huawei wake up.
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I am using kingvip slim Rom and doesn't have notification issue with gmail. For whatsapp i put the apk in the system folder and it starts working. The mate 8 is the best phone i had (i owned a lot of them). Excellent battery life ( who need a phone with a dead battery at 4-5 PM), microsd card support are a must for me. I had before an LG g4 and was plagued with bad battery life and relative overheating so can't imagine an sd810 based device even if it is a nexus phone.

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I am using kingvip slim Rom and doesn't have notification issue with gmail. For whatsapp i put the apk in the system folder and it starts working. The mate 8 is the best phone i had (i owned a lot of them). Excellent battery life ( who need a phone with a dead battery at 4-5 PM), microsd card support are a must for me. I had before an LG g4 and was plagued with bad battery life and relative overheating so can't imagine an sd810 based device even if it is a nexus phone.
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The 6P uses a revision 2 Snapdragon 810 chip and doesn't overheat. Mine stays as cool as my Mate 8 did. The Mate 8 is probably the best piece of hardware I've ever owned but one of the worst in software other than the early days of Samsung's TouchWiz. If the 6P had a 6 inch screen and slightly larger battery (it has a 3450mah battery) it would be the perfect phone. I still have my Mediapad X2 with a 5,000 mah battery. Talk about long lasting!

So, what noti issue are you guys talking? ? Did i miss something on my mate?
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Did i miss something on my mate?
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You apparently did not. Most others did, on older firmwares, without resorting to tricks :good:

docfunk said:
I have notification problems and nothing has worked, i wasted hours trying to get them to work.. I am going to wait till the galaxy note 6 to come out and give this phone to my parents because everyone one is low balling me on craigslist...
Notification are important to me because this is my work phone, I have to carry my note 4 when I'm on call, pretty annoying to always have two phones..
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It seems like the smart plan mode kills all notifications from apps, but choosing performance apps stays alive.
My Gmail and other apps behave normal again. [emoji2]
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How's the performance after a year?

Guys I'm considering buying Honor 8 and I want to know how long you've been using this phone and have you experienced any lags/crashes/slow-downs on stock firmware during this time? Thanks!

Buy the Honor 8 Pro instead as you will get Oreo guaranteed. I have had the 8 for 13 months now and didn't like Nougat till B394 update due to the **** battery life. I stuck to MM till B394 where on heavy usage too I could easily get 5 hours of screen on time.
There hasn't been any noticeable slowdown or such. The phone still runs smoothly.

Anonshe said:
Buy the Honor 8 Pro instead as you will get Oreo guaranteed. I have had the 8 for 13 months now and didn't like Nougat till B394 update due to the **** battery life. I stuck to MM till B394 where on heavy usage too I could easily get 5 hours of screen on time.
There hasn't been any noticeable slowdown or such. The phone still runs smoothly.
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Thanks. Have you used Honor/Huawei phones before and how have they held up over time? I have a 5X that was slow and laggy on stock (EMUI 4 sucks) and didn't improve much even with custom roms (all Nougat roms become unusable after few weeks, CM13 is better but hangs randomly).

I bought this phone last December. I've taken every update and I have yet to be the least bit disappointed in this phone. It has been a fantastic device. I would but it again in a heartbeat for the right price.

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I bought this phone last December. I've taken every update and I have yet to be the least bit disappointed in this phone. It has been a fantastic device. I would but it again in a heartbeat for the right price.
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Good to know! Are you on stock?

The Honor 8 has been great since I bought it in September 2016. the battery took a hit with 7.0 though. I feel its time to move on, but i can't find anything to replace it TBH. I've got a mate 10 Pro which is nice, but it doesn't feel like spending £700 will make THAT much of a different experience to the H8.

It is a really good device. From February the antutu benchmark has dropped a lot but the performance is exactly the same as always, no lags with max graphics on hard to run 3d games. Has held up pretty well.

Days Tech said:
It is a really good device. From February the antutu benchmark has dropped a lot but the performance is exactly the same as always, no lags with max graphics on hard to run 3d games. Has held up pretty well.
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Why has the benchmark score dropped?

mwatson said:
The Honor 8 has been great since I bought it in September 2016. the battery took a hit with 7.0 though. I feel its time to move on, but i can't find anything to replace it TBH. I've got a mate 10 Pro which is nice, but it doesn't feel like spending £700 will make THAT much of a different experience to the H8.
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Thanks. What's your battery life like with the latest update?

hsanjay19 said:
Why has the benchmark score dropped?
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I guess it happens with every phone. The performance in use hasn't dropped at all however, so it is just fine.

hsanjay19 said:
Thanks. What's your battery life like with the latest update?
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I'm still on B384 from September. Battery still not great.

mwatson said:
I'm still on B384 from September. Battery still not great.
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Thanks. You didn't receive B394? How much SOT are you usually getting?

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Thanks. You didn't receive B394? How much SOT are you usually getting?
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With Facebook , Messenger, WhatsApp, telegram, YouTube, browser (Samsung), and a little bit game (Marvel contest of Champion ) 5.30h or 6h max. With also maps....... 4h or less
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Don't buy anything Huawei or honor phone because the are so bat at support and update , if I were you I would buy a OnePlus 3T or a galaxy s7/edge
or any other phone because they are cheaper and better than the honor 8 and and any Huawei/honor phones.

Silvio92 said:
With Facebook , Messenger, WhatsApp, telegram, YouTube, browser (Samsung), and a little bit game (Marvel contest of Champion ) 5.30h or 6h max. With also maps....... 4h or less
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sorry, i'm on 394 with August security patch. 2:30 ave SOT?

mwatson said:
sorry, i'm on 394 with August security patch. 2:30 ave SOT?
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Whoa that's pretty bad. I feel sorry for you. Could it be that your battery has gone bad? Still not acceptable.

By the way, is gyroscope working for you guys?

hsanjay19 said:
By the way, is gyroscope working for you guys?
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Yes with Vr
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mwatson said:
sorry, i'm on 394 with August security patch. 2:30 ave SOT?
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Idem but I dont do 2.30h o.o
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It's ****ing great .... Still managed to get done what I need ... no lag

luisaet82 said:
It's ****ing great .... Still managed to get done what I need ... no lag
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Cool! How long have you had the phone and are you taking any battery-saving measures?

Mi 9T Review - Your opinions?

Hello everyone, recently i picked up mi 9t. What a phone...
I can say that i am more than satisfied with how phone performs and what i got for 300 bucks. I decided to make a short video review and give my opinions about it. I am decent user which means that i am usually using my phone to browse around the web, instagram, watch youtube and some movies. I would be more than happy if you can give me your opinions and if you have any question do not hesitate to ask me. Also, i will make some ROOT/TWRP/ROM review videos so support is more than appreciated. Have a great day everyone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR8Bu48UZis&t=178s

Any thoughts?
Sent from my Mi 9T using Tapatalk

KiaTheKing said:
Any thoughts?
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I really think the Mi 9T is a great phone with the latest Urnyx Gcam without unlock the device. This phone takes beautiful night photos and using astrophotography setting compared to Miui's camera. It has been about 7 days that i own the Mi 9T. With certain reviews i have seen about how Miui's bloatware (and google) crippled the battery life can perform and by using this phone in real time. I think the phone can truly shine with custom rom or by using Miui EU Rom's. I have the 6GB version and this phone is running very smooth. Messenger can be hit or miss when answering, the front camera tends to not pop up at time. (So far 3-2 ratio of the camera popping up verus not) I jave not try gaming because i use my Mi Max 3 for that and also to keep the integrity of the Amoled display. As far as youtube goes, few videos take full potential of the whole display ratio and some not. When it does, the display is amazing.
That is my opinion about this phone. Tomm. i will be able to unlock and use the Xiami EU finally and can go further on what can this phone do.
For Xiomi.EU to work.. just format data and then enter "yes". If not force encryption will stay on and the phone will be rebooted back to TWRP Recovery. Also don't mount system when installing magisk.

Wmateria said:
I really think the Mi 9T is a great phone with the latest Urnyx Gcam without unlock the device. This phone takes beautiful night photos and using astrophotography setting compared to Miui's camera. It has been about 7 days that i own the Mi 9T. With certain reviews i have seen about how Miui's bloatware (and google) crippled the battery life can perform and by using this phone in real time. I think the phone can truly shine with custom rom or by using Miui EU Rom's. I have the 6GB version and this phone is running very smooth. Messenger can be hit or miss when answering, the front camera tends to not pop up at time. (So far 3-2 ratio of the camera popping up verus not) I jave not try gaming because i use my Mi Max 3 for that and also to keep the integrity of the Amoled display. As far as youtube goes, few videos take full potential of the whole display ratio and some not. When it does, the display is amazing.
That is my opinion about this phone. Tomm. i will be able to unlock and use the Xiami EU finally and can go further on what can this phone do.
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Yeah, indeed.
I am also very curious how Roms are working and what can mods improve in terms of speed and battery. I cant say its not good but i think that this phone can do atleast a bit better in those terms. I applied for bootloader unlock 2 days ago, i will need to wait 5 more so i can unlock my phone and get my hands on rooting, installing twrp and so on. Ty for ur opinions.
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KiaTheKing said:
Yeah, indeed.
I am also very curious how Roms are working and what can mods improve in terms of speed and battery. I cant say its not good but i think that this phone can do atleast a bit better in those terms. I applied for bootloader unlock 2 days ago, i will need to wait 5 more so i can unlock my phone and get my hands on rooting, installing twrp and so on. Ty for ur opinions.
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Well i am going to use Xiaomi.EU first. I don't like the custom roms only because the gestures have lines appearing at the bottom and the bottom sides of the screen. Can only make the side arrow gestures dissappear only, on that note, i swtich to Xiaomi.EU for full finger gesture w/o them white lines appearing.
I would recommened Extended Ui Rom if you want to go in that direction.

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Well i am going to use Xiaomi.EU first. I don't like the custom roms only because the gestures have lines appearing at the bottom and the bottom sides of the screen. Can only make the side arrow gestures dissappear only, on that note, i swtich to Xiaomi.EU for full finger gesture w/o them white lines appearing.
I would recommened Extended Ui Rom if you want to go in that direction.
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Yes I would agree with your ROM choice from reading on XDA, but what about full screen gestures (I think it's called) in magisk modules? Doesn't that remove the lines at the bottom and make it MIUI like?

Windroid-user said:
Yes I would agree with your ROM choice from reading on XDA, but what about full screen gestures (I think it's called) in magisk modules? Doesn't that remove the lines at the bottom and make it MIUI like?
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I have not tried any magisk modules except for YouTube Vanced Black. I found the module, i guess i can try it out once i switch to a custom Rom.
Yes, the full screen gesture works.

Can confirm i really prefer the device.
Owned couple of flagships like the oneplus 6, but i like the mi 9t a lot more. The full screen is amazing and everything just works and is fast enough... Even the battery outperforms every device i owned. The phone is a bit on the thicc side... But that isn't a bad thing.
For the price, you get more for the money.
I had one screen failure, that resulted in sending it back and received a new one after the same weekend. Suffered from "ghost touches" in the area where the statusbar sits... After a couple of days it resulted in screen failure considering the top area unusable. Now i got the new one running no problems, even the fingerprint is faster.
I have been rooting around, runned HavocOS 2.9. i really liked the rom but i preferred stock due to slightly less battery drain. The downside of rooting this device is that there is a lot of stuff scattered around xda and the rest of Internet with not the best description about for which version its made for (redmi or mi 9t) or what it modifies or does... Which resulted in flashing a stock rom that made my phone think it was a Redmi K20 instead of a Mi 9T... It did boot tho.
Now i don't do much anymore with toying and flashing around like i used to. i just use audio enhancements, certain themes and adblockers. I mainly use the phone for whatsapp, youtube, android auto and music.

its the peanut said:
Can confirm i really prefer the device.
Owned couple of flagships like the oneplus 6, but i like the mi 9t a lot more. The full screen is amazing and everything just works and is fast enough... Even the battery outperforms every device i owned. The phone is a bit on the thicc side... But that isn't a bad thing.
For the price, you get more for the money.
I had one screen failure, that resulted in sending it back and received a new one after the same weekend. Suffered from "ghost touches" in the area where the statusbar sits... After a couple of days it resulted in screen failure considering the top area unusable. Now i got the new one running no problems, even the fingerprint is faster.
I have been rooting around, runned HavocOS 2.9. i really liked the rom but i preferred stock due to slightly less battery drain. The downside of rooting this device is that there is a lot of stuff scattered around xda and the rest of Internet with not the best description about for which version its made for (redmi or mi 9t) or what it modifies or does... Which resulted in flashing a stock rom that made my phone think it was a Redmi K20 instead of a Mi 9T... It did boot tho.
Now i don't do much anymore with toying and flashing around like i used to. i just use audio enhancements, certain themes and adblockers. I mainly use the phone for whatsapp, youtube, android auto and music.
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After I saw notch of OnePlus 6 I understood :laugh:
Thought it was tear drop notch but more like iPhone, but still.... Pretty impressed to hear that!
Looks like good customer service too, I haven't even unlocked it, it's fine for me and will personalise more when I unlock it like to icon, nothing too major cause like you I prefer stock. Better battery life is all it take for me, if the ROM is not a trash experience of course.
For me it was manageable to navigate through the threads and see what's up.
Oh and also about the description I believe it is meant to run on both, and Dev decides it to be named K20 or Mi 9T depending on their device... I'm pretty sure if you asked them to change to your device's model name they would be more than happy to help out.

Windroid-user said:
After I saw notch of OnePlus 6 I understood :laugh:
Thought it was tear drop notch but more like iPhone, but still.... Pretty impressed to hear that!
Looks like good customer service too, I haven't even unlocked it, it's fine for me and will personalise more when I unlock it like to icon, nothing too major cause like you I prefer stock. Better battery life is all it take for me, if the ROM is not a trash experience of course.
For me it was manageable to navigate through the threads and see what's up.
Oh and also about the description I believe it is meant to run on both, and Dev decides it to be named K20 or Mi 9T depending on their device... I'm pretty sure if you asked them to change to your device's model name they would be more than happy to help out.
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The notch on the oneplus 6 was not even that bad, i liked that phone but battery life was not good enough, and i go to a lot of festivals so battery is important, and sound recording quality which also sucked.
The Mi 9T on the other hand succeeded in everything i want on a phone. Android auto works, music is good, wireless audio also, battery is very good, recording quality in both sound and video is good enough (seems cheaper devices can record more bass ).
I am not going to bother with the devs, staying stock with a few magisk mods which is enough
Btw for people trying to flash stuff on this phone, make sure to read on about encryption because it can screw you over when flashing goes wrong. And maybe use a USB OTG (or something similar) so when you soft brick your device you can still flash stuff in that way... If you're usb drive isn't encrypted

By the specs one might think that this is a great phone. Actually its the worst xiaomi phone i ever had (and i had a few). I am really disappointed by it, mainly because of the software. Many people have issues with battery drain. Mine is randomly crashing, no idea why. Sometimes it suddenly drains the battery completely within 1 hour, randomly, without any announcement. My girlfriend told me once that she tried to phone me but it woas not possible. I did not believe her first. I had no notifications about missed calls. A few weeks later i got a SMS from my mailbox service - 13 people failed to phone me.
It could be a great phone but you cannot rely on it. So it's basically useless.

leboef said:
By the specs one might think that this is a great phone. Actually its the worst xiaomi phone i ever had (and i had a few). I am really disappointed by it, mainly because of the software. Many people have issues with battery drain. Mine is randomly crashing, no idea why. Sometimes it suddenly drains the battery completely within 1 hour, randomly, without any announcement. My girlfriend told me once that she tried to phone me but it woas not possible. I did not believe her first. I had no notifications about missed calls. A few weeks later i got a SMS from my mailbox service - 13 people failed to phone me.
It could be a great phone but you cannot rely on it. So it's basically useless.
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I don't know if you are on stock software... But maybe try to reset or re-flash its stock firmware those problems can go away. I have no battery drain, no problems with calls either, maybe you got a faulty device like i did.
I have no problems with my device, besides returning it for screen failure once and it got replaced within a few days.

leboef said:
By the specs one might think that this is a great phone. Actually its the worst xiaomi phone i ever had (and i had a few). I am really disappointed by it, mainly because of the software. Many people have issues with battery drain. Mine is randomly crashing, no idea why. Sometimes it suddenly drains the battery completely within 1 hour, randomly, without any announcement. My girlfriend told me once that she tried to phone me but it woas not possible. I did not believe her first. I had no notifications about missed calls. A few weeks later i got a SMS from my mailbox service - 13 people failed to phone me.
It could be a great phone but you cannot rely on it. So it's basically useless.
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I agree, i actually miss my Note 5 Pro (6 GB version). The camera on the Mi9t has GREAT specs but it don't take too much better pics than the Note 5 (both without GCAM). Not to mention that most cameras are useless, only 2x zoom is not good enough and the other cameras are too much of a low resolution that make the pics even worse (so the cams are useless). The popup camera sound as a dream, but it isn't. It already gave problems to me (and many others) and the ONLY fix is to re flash the persist partition, where we lose DRM for Netflix. The popup also make the phone too heavy and thick for my taste. MIUI actually run smoother on the Note 5 than on the Mi9t, the community also is bigger still on the Note 5 so we have MUCH more ROMs and mods... This device has still buggy TWRP on backup and restore plus decryption error on TWRP. The amoled screen also has terrible color calibration. Oh and the fingerprint sensor is the WORSE i ever had
I'm not too happy with it. One thing i learned with the mi9t is to NEVER buy a smartphone with moving parts, either popup cameras or folding phone. It is asking for middle term problems.
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I have no problems with my device, besides returning it for screen failure once and it got replaced within a few days.
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That isn't a small problem, though.
Also about flashing, i see many people who brick the device for no reason

Well, had it for 2 months and sold it, and got a used Mi8 instead. I couldn't stand fingerprint scanner which is really not so good, and battery life was ok but not good enough for a 4000mAh capacity. Even with debloating, dark mode etc. there was always some drainage. Mi8 is a lot more optimized in my opinion.
Recently I dropped my Mi8 and broke the screen, and decided to skip Xiaomi for the time being due to Miui 11, which looks nice but it's animations are overkill, and they are really annoying.
Got Huawei Nova 5t instead (although I hate Huawei), but it's the one of very few devices that still has physical fps scanner, and can easily get up to 10 hrs of sot.

mejgs said:
Well, had it for 2 months and sold it, and got a used Mi8 instead. I couldn't stand fingerprint scanner which is really not so good, and battery life was ok but not good enough for a 4000mAh capacity. Even with debloating, dark mode etc. there was always some drainage. Mi8 is a lot more optimized in my opinion.
Recently I dropped my Mi8 and broke the screen, and decided to skip Xiaomi for the time being due to Miui 11, which looks nice but it's animations are overkill, and they are really annoying.
Got Huawei Nova 5t instead (although I hate Huawei), but it's the one of very few devices that still has physical fps scanner, and can easily get up to 10 hrs of sot.
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After the Mi9t (that i don't plan to keep for long) i think i'll go with a 1+

Pupet_Master said:
After the Mi9t (that i don't plan to keep for long) i think i'll go with a 1+
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Good choice. Sadly, perfect device doesn't exist. I would prefer Samsung with snapdragon (in my opinion OneUI is the best skin right now), but they are too expensive. I've been checking out the new S10 Lite, seems good, probably fps sensor is cr*p as in all Sammy phones, but who knows...

The only two downsides I can think of is camera crashing in pro mode and screen which got scratched with a fingernail

What can I say about this device is that I have some mixed feelings about it... The phone it's amazingly fast, I can do anything in a few seconds, but I have a big drain on the battery... I tried every ROM possible, any battery tips, nothing seems to help me, I can barely get 4h SOT with mi band 4 constantly connected, wifi/mobile data always on, location on... Other people are getting 7-8h SOT and I can't get more than 4h SOT... I'm somehow disappointed at this chapter but I really enjoy the smoothness of this phone, the amazing photos taken by the gcam, and the support of the community. Overall it's a great phone but a great downside it's the battery life if you put the phone at work

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What can I say about this device is that I have some mixed feelings about it... The phone it's amazingly fast, I can do anything in a few seconds, but I have a big drain on the battery... I tried every ROM possible, any battery tips, nothing seems to help me, I can barely get 4h SOT with mi band 4 constantly connected, wifi/mobile data always on, location on... Other people are getting 7-8h SOT and I can't get more than 4h SOT... I'm somehow disappointed at this chapter but I really enjoy the smoothness of this phone, the amazing photos taken by the gcam, and the support of the community. Overall it's a great phone but a great downside it's the battery life if you put the phone at work
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That's MIUI 11 Android 10 biggest weakness... more battery drain...

Micdu70 said:
That's MIUI 11 Android 10 biggest weakness... more battery drain...
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Yeah, unfortunately yes, and they're not doing something about this... ?