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How to replace the digitiser - What type of glue should I use ?

I dropped my phone and need to replace the housing. It looks like the digitiser cannot be easily removed from the housing, so I bought one of these as well. Now all I have to do is move the phone from the old housing to the new and install the digitiser in the new housing.
Now it looks like the digitiser may have been glued in place. What type of glue should I use ?

::Pixel.Freak:: said:
I dropped my phone and need to replace the housing. It looks like the digitiser cannot be easily removed from the housing, so I bought one of these as well. Now all I have to do is move the phone from the old housing to the new and install the digitiser in the new housing.
Now it looks like the digitiser may have been glued in place. What type of glue should I use ?
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More liked taped in...... I'm sure that lots of people will respond with.. Double sided 3M tape.... but if there's anything better/stronger than that on the market use it. Make sure it''s really thin tape to. I'm gonna be replacing my housing in the next month or so aswell. Goodluck.

As I also will replace mine digitizer, the newton rings are bugging me, it will be appreciable if you can share your experiences of the replacement process.
thanks in advance and god luck

Hey on more thing. I took apart my phone last night and put it back just so I know my way around when parts come in.
If your Digitizer does not work try loosening the top srews 1/4 turn. You have them on too tight.

I wasn't replacing mine so I didn't have to remove the existing one. All I had to do was attach a new digitiser to a new housing.
I was told that double sided tape was the best, so I tried that.
I used the instruction from http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-diamond2 which was easy enough.
You need to ensure you remove the micro SD card first.
Also I forgot to move the LED diffuser from the top, so I need to repeat the process at some stage.
The housing I bought had a number of issues
* The two screw point near the bottom of the housing didn't have the metal inserts with the screw threads
* There was no seal between the metal housing and the LCD screen. This could let dust in.
That's about it for a brain dump.

Hi there,
I was also tired from that oil stai and ordered a new digitizer from these guys:
http://xxx.sw-box.com/htc-touch-diamond-2-t5353-digitizer-touch-panel-screen.html
Surely it arrived in 6 days, to my horror it was a generic display,
Had some trouble removing the old one, ended up breaking it
The generic did not fit snugly, I had to sand down the edges to make them round, also had some trouble with the four buttons below getting stuck when pressing down, (shaved of some extra plastic). anyway used double sided scotch film to get the digitizer back in place.
apart from a few difficulties, it works like a charm.
Should have ordered an OEM but what's done is done
Next time I'll do the cover and get a new digitizer
Regards

I would of thought double sided tape too thick to use to stick the digitizer on.
I was thinking of using a very thin sliver of clear silicone.
Anybody tried this or have any other suggestions?
Thanks

I used a very thin layer of supergleu and it worked great!!

My digitizer came pre-glued. I didn't need any sort of glue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715724

Silicone is OK
I used a very thin layer of black silicone and placed a book on top of the digitizer to keep it pressed flat into the case as it dried overnight. No problems since then...
The missing metal screw inserts can simply be pulled out of the old housing ; insert screw halfway and gently pull with plyers. Carefully hammer into the new casing; insert screw 3/4, put something thin and metal on top to prevent the screwhead from getting damaged and carefully hammer into the void. Make sure it goes in straight.

I've got exactly the same issue with my new housing, no bottom screw threads and no foam for the lcd to rest on. Am trying to pull the threads out with pliers but I think the old case is going to break first or strip the threads.
This is isn't an easy job

have finally finished this epic!!!!
had to break the bottom screw threads out of the old front housing and took a good while hammering them into the new housing so I didn't break it.
used a small sliver of clear silicone to glue the digitizer in which seems to work well so far.
Have not put any foam or anything for the LCD to rest on, time will tell what effect this has.

I need to change mine as well. Where can i buy a good quality digitizer and case preferably pre-glued?
I found a few on ebay but i am not sure of the quality.
Thanks

Today i searched also for shops which have digitizers and housings. I have found 2 shops, but one of them is a german shop (http://www.mobileok.de) which does not deliver outside of germany and austria. But the other one does: http://www.sw-box.com/

what kind of glue? it's the third time that i'm re-gluing it, but dust keeps coming inside....

I guess, it is not possible to hermetical seal the housing. I had dust in my original housing too. There are a lot of small gaps everywhere not only between digitizer and frame. But it would be easy to disassemble the device from time to time, remove the dust and reassemble it again. Save your energy in the effort to make your device dust proof.

HD2 fixing advice, regarding glue

So I replaced the cracked digitizer on my HD2, and it was the most exhaustive repair ive ever been through in my entire life. However after I have replaced the digitizer and taken the phone apart a few times to properly seat things back together, the digitizer gets dust underneath it because the seal is not perfect.
In the disassemble directions you had to heat the phone up to 140 degrees for 5 minutes in order to sort of melt the glue that held the pieces together nice and tight, it was a black double sided gooey substance.
Since separation, some of that was lost and i'm looking for something similar to replicate it to create a proper seal for my hardware all around. Anyone have any ideas on what I can use? And unless you're dead serious, don't say gorilla glue, because I may need to service it again in the future.
Thanks!

How about a cheap hot glue gun?
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Its an idea except i dont want the hot glue to expand too much when pressure is applied, and also its not something that will allow me to get back into it with heat at 140 degrees any other suggestions?

I'm thinking that a couple tiny dots of silicone will work. It's non-conductive, flexible and not permanent. I'm getting good at tearing these apart, but like you they don't hold together once you wreck the glue.
One thing I did do was heat it up and press it AFTER the repair was done. I reheated it for 5 minutes with the hair dryer (I use a music stand to hold it so I can go get another beer - but 2 beers is my limit with these tiny parts).
I'm also going to try 3 layers of double-sided tape too, which is similar to what is in other phones. Or that stuff from the back of credit cards. Oh, that's probably rubber cement. I'll try that too
As you can see I'm still working it out too.

Nexus 4 Back Glass Replacement Help.

I know this is a silly question. But I cracked the back of my nexus 4 from a 1 foot drop, (out of my pocket while I was crouched down spray painting in the garage). Just before I did this I was starting to have battery issues, basically under 20% the phone doesn't charge unless its off. Even on the stock charger, it just loses power and then dies and turns off again. Its frustrating now because I lost my warranty due to cracking it.
So My question is, if I go on (Ebay) and buy that glass, will I be able to do a clean enough install that they will take it as warranty and not notice? I don't want to buy the whole back assembly because its rather expensive with all the antennas to keep everything working.
I'd like to hear your opinions, or from people who have replaced just the glass before. Thanks.

AlwaysDroid said:
I know this is a silly question. But I cracked the back of my nexus 4 from a 1 foot drop, (out of my pocket while I was crouched down spray painting in the garage). Just before I did this I was starting to have battery issues, basically under 20% the phone doesn't charge unless its off. Even on the stock charger, it just loses power and then dies and turns off again. Its frustrating now because I lost my warranty due to cracking it.
So My question is, if I go on (Ebay) and buy that glass, will I be able to do a clean enough install that they will take it as warranty and not notice? I don't want to buy the whole back assembly because its rather expensive with all the antennas to keep everything working.
I'd like to hear your opinions, or from people who have replaced just the glass before. Thanks.
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You can do it, you just have to take off the entire back cover, peel off the NFC and charging coils, and gently pry out the glass. Look up the thread where someone put in a second battery (total of 4200 mah) in his Nexus. He has removed the (shattered) back glass off of his phone, and replaced it with a plastic housing for the 2nd battery. You could see how he got the glass off without damaging the cover. The hardest part I would think would be getting the glass to stick on while keeping the stock look. I don't know what kind of adhesive LG uses to glue on the glass, but ideally you would want to use the same kind.

lopezk38 said:
You can do it, you just have to take off the entire back cover, peel off the NFC and charging coils, and gently pry out the glass. Look up the thread where someone put in a second battery (total of 4200 mah) in his Nexus. He has removed the (shattered) back glass off of his phone, and replaced it with a plastic housing for the 2nd battery. You could see how he got the glass off without damaging the cover. The hardest part I would think would be getting the glass to stick on while keeping the stock look. I don't know what kind of adhesive LG uses to glue on the glass, but ideally you would want to use the same kind.
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Sweet man thanks for the input I'll go take a look at the thread.

Replacing an Xperia Z Screen

Sadly I broke my Phone screen, so I brought a replacement off the net
We all seen how to take apart the phone on youtube ...
But it dose not show how to take off the screen.
We'll I've done it . Once u complete the steps in the video..
Turn the phone screen side up and take the hair dryer to the screen and heat around the edge of the screen and use the sucker to lift the screen away from the phone chassis
This will lift away simular to the back case, the only difference is the glue is on the chassis and not on the screen
So now u lift the screen.
U will see cables runs into the back free them and the screen will lift clean away
Now ur ready for the new screen:
Heat up the edges again with the hair dryer and quickly run the cable through the chassis and sit the screen down at the same time -> pressing the down around the edges as the glue dryies to ensure the screen is securely in place
And once ur happy you can continue to to reassemble your phone...
NOTES:
BATTERY:When your taking the battery out becareful due to the foil around the battery tends to stretch and warp - and when u put the parts back together it can be seen while using the phone.
Vibrator motor: when taking the phone apart at the bottom the black long piece is the motor(on the right under the grey piece) it's connect to the screen so when u put it back together be sure connect it back up
New screen: Besure to heat up the chassis area well to ensure the screen stays in place, u now if it's done right when the phone is on, the back light should not escape at the edge of the screen.
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dude send me your address, will send you my device when it is damaged ! :laugh:

How did go about reassembling the backplate with its adhesive edges?

somanynames90 said:
Sadly I broke my Phone screen, so I brought a replacement off the net
We all seen how to take apart the phone on youtube ...
But it dose not show how to take off the screen.
We'll I've done it . Once u complete the steps in the video..
Turn the phone screen side up and take the hair dryer to the screen and heat around the edge of the screen and use the sucker to lift the screen away from the phone chassis
This will lift away simular to the back case, the only difference is the glue is on the chassis and not on the screen
So now u lift the screen.
U will see cables runs into the back free them and the screen will lift clean away
Now ur ready for the new screen:
Heat up the edges again with the hair dryer and quickly run the cable through the chassis and sit the screen down at the same time -> pressing the down around the edges as the glue dryies to ensure the screen is securely in place
And once ur happy you can continue to to reassemble your phone...
NOTES:
BATTERY:When your taking the battery out becareful due to the foil around the battery tends to stretch and warp - and when u put the parts back together it can be seen while using the phone.
Vibrator motor: when taking the phone apart at the bottom the black long piece is the motor(on the right under the grey piece) it's connect to the screen so when u put it back together be sure connect it back up
New screen: Besure to heat up the chassis area well to ensure the screen stays in place, u now if it's done right when the phone is on, the back light should not escape at the edge of the screen.
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could you explain how to take out the battery? because i tried to take out and i bended it and now i can't close the backplate

SCSweeps said:
How did go about reassembling the backplate with its adhesive edges?
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I just got the hair dryer again and heated up the glue for a minuter or two and then quickly put it in place and held it until the glue was dry
Sorry for late reply

ex19961996 said:
could you explain how to take out the battery? because i tried to take out and i bended it and now i can't close the backplate
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well i just took my time with taking it out - i did manage to stretch the foil on the battery so i just cut off the stretched bit and smoothed the foil out and used take to keep the edges in place
,,, hope this helps ...

somanynames90 said:
well i just took my time with taking it out - i did manage to stretch the foil on the battery so i just cut off the stretched bit and smoothed the foil out and used take to keep the edges in place
,,, hope this helps ...
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see the attchments could i bend the battery without removing it?or from this images what i should do?

UPDATED:
ok since fixing my phone i have ran into two problem
1: the proximity sensor - seem to not working
2: the phone signal - was intermittent
First:
I have now fixed the first issue - the screen was not fully in place(top right hand side where the noticeably light is #
FIX: heat up the area again and ensure its stuck down correctly and then it should be ok
Second:
When take the phone apart i broke the cable for the aerial - so please take care when taking the phone apart
Once side one the aerial is on the top half of the phone and you can see the connector and the cable runs down the right side of the phone
the other side is located and CONNECTED to the bottom section of the phone which you can not see the connecter is out of sight till this section is taken out so BE-CAREFUL
Its called - Coaxial Cable RF Coaxial Sony Xperia Z
Hope this helps people
J

ex19961996 said:
see the attchments could i bend the battery without removing it?or from this images what i should do?
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Have you manage to take the battery out at all ?
if not i would say take it out and bend it straight again be for placing it back into the phone(not 100% if this is good idea tho so you might need to order a replacement)
to take the battery out i done the following:
i used a flat head screwdriver carefully on the right side of the phone and gently lifted it up and scored the glue away bit by bit until it came free
J

somanynames90 said:
Have you manage to take the battery out at all ?
if not i would say take it out and bend it straight again be for placing it back into the phone(not 100% if this is good idea tho so you might need to order a replacement)
to take the battery out i done the following:
i used a flat head screwdriver carefully on the right side of the phone and gently lifted it up and scored the glue away bit by bit until it came free
J
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no i tried to lift it only on the right...i ll bend it because if you bend a li-po battery it will continue to work properly i had a li-po that i used for soft-air that is smashed on the front but works properly (i know is dangerous but i am carefully)

ex19961996 said:
no i tried to lift it only on the right...i ll bend it because if you bend a li-po battery it will continue to work properly i had a li-po that i used for soft-air that is smashed on the front but works properly (i know is dangerous but i am carefully)
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Let me know how you get on

somanynames90 said:
Let me know how you get on
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everything fine...but isn t no more waterproof...i spent 2 hours to fix it XD but the phone works perfectly

What did you use to put the back panel ? Glue or 3m adhesive ?

vibecatalin said:
What did you use to put the back panel ? Glue or 3m adhesive ?
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Just reheating the glue thats there is enough
J

ex19961996 said:
everything fine...but isn t no more waterproof...i spent 2 hours to fix it XD but the phone works perfectly
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Well Done

I used a double sided adhesive but it isn t so good because the heat (it lifted near the camera like all xperia z)so i don t know what to use...glue isn t good if you want to disassembly it again i ll probably use the same material that were in origin and heat resistant glue :/ but i ll never put it in water again

Why didn't you buy that 3m seal ( double adhesive ) special made for Xperia Z. Or is that what you have been using?

vibecatalin said:
Why didn't you buy that 3m seal ( double adhesive ) special made for Xperia Z. Or is that what you have been using?
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i didn t used that because i hadn t much time i can find this thing everywhere or i have to ship online?

Mostly online. Depends where you live. If you live in West Europe there's no problem finding it, or China, but elsewhere you have to order it online.

Thank you man. My old Xperia Z seen the light once more!
Obviously isn't no more waterproof but isn't a problem
(I found my screen and the back cover in UK online store)
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Notes from my Honor 8 Battery Replacement

While it is fresh in my mind.
1) The seam for the back is not along the surface, it is along the edge. The silver part and the glass is where you want to attack. It is going to be hot, wear gloves.
2) Don't use metal tweezers around the battery connector as it is always hot. I accidentally shorted the old battery and was afraid I'd also hit the motherboard but apparently did not.
3) The battery is glued in SOLID even though it appears to be a tight spot. The thing is, there are flat cables underneath (see photo) and the screen so you have to be careful. I have read not to use heat on it but I think you almost have to use a little. There is the frame between the battery and the screen, but too much leverage could easily damage the screen. I did not glue my new battery down. We will see.
4) If the thing turned on (or you turned it on) without the fingerprint sensor connected, you will need a reboot to find the fingerprint sensor. At first, I thought I had not seated the cable but then it dawned on me to reboot before I took the cable bracket and cable back off. That fixed it.
I managed to chip the midframe a little in one spot. Not bad and invisible in the case. Not very noticeable without the case. In fact, I didn't glue the back down yet because my case holds it all together with no issues and I thought I'd take a day or two to make sure nothing is going to pop loose in there.

Thanks for the write up.
Did you end up reusing the old battery door adhesive or go with a new one?
Wasn't sure from your post.
Also how's the new battery holding up?
wd5gnr said:
While it is fresh in my mind.
1) The seam for the back is not along the surface, it is along the edge. The silver part and the glass is where you want to attack. It is going to be hot, wear gloves.
2) Don't use metal tweezers around the battery connector as it is always hot. I accidentally shorted the old battery and was afraid I'd also hit the motherboard but apparently did not.
3) The battery is glued in SOLID even though it appears to be a tight spot. The thing is, there are flat cables underneath (see photo) and the screen so you have to be careful. I have read not to use heat on it but I think you almost have to use a little. There is the frame between the battery and the screen, but too much leverage could easily damage the screen. I did not glue my new battery down. We will see.
4) If the thing turned on (or you turned it on) without the fingerprint sensor connected, you will need a reboot to find the fingerprint sensor. At first, I thought I had not seated the cable but then it dawned on me to reboot before I took the cable bracket and cable back off. That fixed it.
I managed to chip the midframe a little in one spot. Not bad and invisible in the case. Not very noticeable without the case. In fact, I didn't glue the back down yet because my case holds it all together with no issues and I thought I'd take a day or two to make sure nothing is going to pop loose in there.
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tiguy99 said:
Thanks for the write up.
Did you end up reusing the old battery door adhesive or go with a new one?
Wasn't sure from your post.
Also how's the new battery holding up?
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After about a week with it in the case, the old adhesive was stuck on good so I left it alone. The new battery is holding up well. Phone is no longer my daily driver, though, but the battery is great.

wd5gnr said:
After about a week with it in the case, the old adhesive was stuck on good so I left it alone. The new battery is holding up well. Phone is no longer my daily driver, though, but the battery is great.
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Replaced my battery last night. End up reusing my old adhesive which worked out well. When it was still hot/soft, I took a flat head screwdriver and lightly drew the adhesive back flat on the surface as much as I could before beginning the full teardown.
That did the trick for me.
As for the battery itself, you're right... the battery is in there with some very strong adhesive. Had to actually use my heat gun to soften the adhesive and free it. For me, it wasn't coming out any other way and this part took the longest.
Didn't heat the battery directly as I didn't want to burn it so I heated the area from the screen side....be very careful as you do this as the screen can get burned as well. (Don't ask me how I know)
Overall the new battery is working very well and the phone feels like it did day 1 again. Can't wait to see the SOT time later this evening
Edit see attached...almost 5 hours again with 25% left with normal use and auto brightness on Nougat. Can easily see 6 hours at this rate! Very impressed

Damn this looks more complicated then changing it on an iPhone

xsacter said:
Damn this looks more complicated then changing it on an iPhone
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YMMV but personally I can vouch that its one of the more time consuming and challenging repairs vs usual iPhone jobs. They use some type of space age adhesive that quite difficult to remove. Most of the repair is trying to gently remove the back glass, battery and screen. If you can quickly get those out without damaging the components, the rest of the repair is simple.

Are there replacement backs? My battery lasts maybe an hour of SoT at this point. I've tried factory resetting it. I'm tempted to get a new phone (because I'd like security updates), but the H8 is still fast enough to use. Mostly not knowing what I'm doing I figure breaking the back is fairly likely.