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Hey, I was thinking about getting the Arc, but I' wondering how good the battery life is, and just in genera; how good the phone is? Once it's rooted, what else can you do on it without being able to load custom roms?
MouthTalker said:
Hey, I was thinking about getting the Arc, but I' wondering how good the battery life is
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It is a smart phone and battery life differs from a person to another. Do you want me to say its good? On my side, I like the battery life and I think it is totally enough for me.
+PS there are more threads about this and next time try to search before posting a new one.
Cheers
Nimche said:
It is a smart phone and battery life differs from a person to another. Do you want me to say its good? On my side, I like the battery life and I think it is totally enough for me.
+PS there are more threads about this and next time try to search before posting a new one.
Cheers
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Sorry, I pressed enter while typing the title and it submitted the post for me. I was also wondering about the usefulness of rooting the phone as I mentioned in my edit.
from what I have seen and experienced from Android, root is a nice feature to get rid of unwanted extra stuff, system files and files came from your carrier and even SE stuff that you don't need. Without them, phone runs faster and battery is better.
Rooting process is easy and no risk in it at least for me but you have to be sure that you know what is going on and how to fix if anything happens instead of freakin out.
+ custom ROM won't happen on rooted devices, you need a unbranded device which can have a unlocked booloader later for custom ROMs/
So I take it that just unbranding the phone following the guides on here isn't enough to get SE to unlock the Bootloader?
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So I take it that just unbranding the phone following the guides on here isn't enough to get SE to unlock the Bootloader?
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well no.
Your phone needs to be bootloader unlockable. It means that phone it self has to come unbranded from Sony Ericsson factory, means no carrier every put their hands on the phone then bootloader on your phone may get unlocked.
hi..you don't necessarily need boot loader unlocked devices for custom roms.. they managed it on x10 for 6 months or so..
Sent from The Arc!
im_iceman said:
hi..you don't necessarily need boot loader unlocked devices for custom roms.. they managed it on x10 for 6 months or so..
Sent from The Arc!
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Right, I meant more like full functional ROM including kernel tweaks but I guess they are achieving that as well. I am running "J" 2.3 on my X10 too with bunch of WLODs
1.) Rooted S5 900V (Verizon Model) using towel root.
2.) Installed Safestrap Recovery.
All this went perfectly fine..
I forget exactly which ROM i tried to install but it boot looped my phone.
I need to know which ROMs i can use and which ones that i CANNOT,
Can i only use certain ROMs based off of which recovery i've installed?
What is ADB Side Load?
I want to ask all of these questions, no matter how noobish, so that i can write every single one of these things down in lamens terms for the average (or slightly below average) user.
If we understood what half of these options meant and would do we could do this stuff yourself and leave you guys alone so you can develop stuff for my Verizon S5 !!! lol :laugh:
Not only that, but most of these ROM's come with ZERO instructions on how to install them properly. I mean i understand that if your flashing then you should have an underlying knowledge of what you doing but COME ON!!! BE smart about it. You take all that time to develop a decent ROM but don't but info on how to install it properly. WTF is the deal with that?
Also... Can i use Odin309 within Linux via Wine? I am trying to install the firmware i got from Sam's.
If you have a verizon S5, (SM-G900V) then you can only flash a rom, made by the devs here, for the 900V. If you try to flash a variants S5 rom, your phone will brick.
I always recommend that before somone flashes anything to their phone or tablet to do research on the subject. Read, and reread everything. Double check. Make sure you have everything you need.
Also, pretty much all of the devs have install instructions for their work in our phones dev section.
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Also about your question about using odin within linux via wine, here are a few threads that aks the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55539300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55569056
Personally, I'd rather use a Windows PC. Less headaches that way. But thats just my opinion.
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If you have a verizon S5, (SM-G900V) then you can only flash a rom, made by the devs here, for the 900V. If you try to flash a variants S5 rom, your phone will brick.
I always recommend that before somone flashes anything to their phone or tablet to do research on the subject. Read, and reread everything. Double check. Make sure you have everything you need.
Also, pretty much all of the devs have install instructions for their work in our phones dev section.
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Also about your question about using odin within linux via wine, here are a few threads that aks the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55539300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55569056
Personally, I'd rather use a Windows PC. Less headaches that way. But thats just my opinion.
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Yes I do read, but somethimes it can be
exitpr0gram said:
1.) Rooted S5 900V (Verizon Model) using towel root.
2.) Installed Safestrap Recovery.
All this went perfectly fine..
I forget exactly which ROM i tried to install but it boot looped my phone.
I need to know which ROMs i can use and which ones that i CANNOT,
You can only use ROMs labeled for the retail Verizon S5. Not spring, tmobile.. etc.. Verizon.
Can i only use certain ROMs based off of which recovery i've installed?
As of now, you can only use safestrap. Any of the current ROMs can be flashed by our current safestrap
What is ADB Side Load?
ADB Sideload
I want to ask all of these questions, no matter how noobish, so that i can write every single one of these things down in lamens terms for the average (or slightly below average) user.
If we understood what half of these options meant and would do we could do this stuff yourself and leave you guys alone so you can develop stuff for my Verizon S5 !!! lol :laugh:
Not only that, but most of these ROM's come with ZERO instructions on how to install them properly. I mean i understand that if your flashing then you should have an underlying knowledge of what you doing but COME ON!!! BE smart about it. You take all that time to develop a decent ROM but don't but info on how to install it properly. WTF is the deal with that?
Most? That's a bit harsh. Last I checked, most (if not all) of the ROM devs (including myself) provide thorough instructions. There is no "WTF deal".
Also... Can i use Odin309 within Linux via Wine? I am trying to install the firmware i got from Sam's.
Simple answer: no. Don't take the risk to your device.
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Answered your questions above in RED.
exitpr0gram said:
1.) Rooted S5 900V (Verizon Model) using towel root.
2.) Installed Safestrap Recovery.
All this went perfectly fine..
I forget exactly which ROM i tried to install but it boot looped my phone.
I need to know which ROMs i can use and which ones that i CANNOT,
Can i only use certain ROMs based off of which recovery i've installed?
What is ADB Side Load?
I want to ask all of these questions, no matter how noobish, so that i can write every single one of these things down in lamens terms for the average (or slightly below average) user.
If we understood what half of these options meant and would do we could do this stuff yourself and leave you guys alone so you can develop stuff for my Verizon S5 !!! lol :laugh:
Not only that, but most of these ROM's come with ZERO instructions on how to install them properly. I mean i understand that if your flashing then you should have an underlying knowledge of what you doing but COME ON!!! BE smart about it. You take all that time to develop a decent ROM but don't but info on how to install it properly. WTF is the deal with that?
Also... Can i use Odin309 within Linux via Wine? I am trying to install the firmware i got from Sam's.
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No offense meant, but based on the questions you've asked I suggest you do more research before flashing anything on your phone.
The ROMs listed in this forum have pretty good install instruction for anyone who has a basic knowledge of what they are doing (err go the comment about doing more research).
Did you make a backup before you flashed the ROM you can't even remember the name of? What slot did you flash the ROM to?
It would be helpful if you could tell us what ROM you tried to flash and where you found it.
Always make a backup of your stock rom before flashing anything.
Thanks
BigBot96 said:
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I guess what i meant to say is that some information is just hard to locate. They keep the fancy art easy to see but the installation instructions you actually have to search for. I love the DEV's for there work, TRUST ME. Android wouldn't be Android without you guys.
I would like to get more involved in the XDA and AndroidForums to make a one stop shop for ALL of the popular devices. Basically, just gather up all pertinent information (after receiving permission from the dev) and put it in one nice and easy spot to read.
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I guess what i meant to say is that some information is just hard to locate. They keep the fancy art easy to see but the installation instructions you actually have to search for. I love the DEV's for there work, TRUST ME. Android wouldn't be Android without you guys.
I would like to get more involved in the XDA and AndroidForums to make a one stop shop for ALL of the popular devices. Basically, just gather up all pertinent information (after receiving permission from the dev) and put it in one nice and easy spot to read.
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You mean something like this thread which already exists?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784860
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You mean something like this thread which already exists?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784860
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Yes. That is an excellent example of what i am wanting to do and I actually used it when i started reading up on my S5.The only thing is that it does not specify the Verizon 900V. So someone with any model phone could read that and brick their phone.
But i will want to go in to more detail such as exactly what the "NE9" is.. Is it an update? Firmware? What?
Regardless, i just want to add another page that has information that one that already exists, such as that one, may be missing.
There is WAY too much information about our phones to say that one page covers every single aspect of it.
I'm just wanting to help clearly state the information thats already out there. Alot of these people are already busy and cannot give 110% towards there pages.
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Yes. That is an excellent example of what i am wanting to do and I actually used it when i started reading up on my S5.The only thing is that it does not specify the Verizon 900V. So someone with any model phone could read that and brick their phone.
But i will want to go in to more detail such as exactly what the "NE9" is.. Is it an update? Firmware? What?
Regardless, i just want to add another page that has information that one that already exists, such as that one, may be missing.
There is WAY too much information about our phones to say that one page covers every single aspect of it.
I'm just wanting to help clearly state the information thats already out there. Alot of these people are already busy and cannot give 110% towards there pages.
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It literally says "How to root Verizon's Samsung Galaxy S5" in the title.
If you feel theres a need for another thread explaining things, talk to a moderator about making one.
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It literally says "How to root Verizon's Samsung Galaxy S5" in the title.
If you feel theres a need for another thread explaining things, talk to a moderator about making one.
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I think we both know that one carriers phone could have compatible root/roms for others carrier's phones. Specifying the model name i would think would be the most appropriate way. You have to realize not everyone has been doing this for as long as you and does not necessarily have a keen eye for such things..
There is absolutely nothing wrong with over explaining things.
With that being said, i do believe that post is an extremely helpful page.
But discussing whether or not the page has enough information is not worth debating over.
When i find time to do my own then we can have this discussion.
I mentioned i wasn't exactly sure how i boot looped my. Still don't because I can't remember for the life of me which ROM it was! I thought i book marked it... Whichever one it was, it wanted me to flash 3-4 different zips once in SafeStrap. First ZIP is when the boot loop occuured.
ANYWAY...
I installed SafeStrap using the instructions found HERE.
I wanted to install THIS ONE because it had the KTweaker which is totally awesome toplay with but i dont think my 900-V allows sit.\\
BUT:
I want as many people's opinion as possible on this (I will create a separate thread). I have T-Mobile but was old a Verizon Phone. I have issues with dropped calls, slow speeds, among others. I want to know if this is legal.
Any and all are welcome to respond as i feel they should pay for making me pay $60 fora cab (Oneway) and then selling me a crap phone. Plus the wall charger didn't work. The data cable did so at least i had another wall charger.
In Case your Wondering... yes i do have the receipt.
THE BEST PART IS: T-Mobile said they've never heard of them when i called and gave them the address off of the receipt.
Honestly, i would like to go in there and walk out with another S5, maybe even with this one paid off, lol. But PLEASE ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.
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I think we both know that one carriers phone could have compatible root/roms for others carrier's phones. Specifying the model name i would think would be the most appropriate way. You have to realize not everyone has been doing this for as long as you and does not necessarily have a keen eye for such things..
There is absolutely nothing wrong with over explaining things.
With that being said, i do believe that post is an extremely helpful page.
But discussing whether or not the page has enough information is not worth debating over.
When i find time to do my own then we can have this discussion.
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So... Do you actually need help with your phone?
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So... Do you actually need help with your phone?
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I fixed it, thanks.
Sammobile firmware+Odin309+download mode= Magic.
How i Fixed + A 10x More Complicated Question
BigBot96 said:
Answered your questions above in RED.
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jpcalhoun said:
No offense meant, but based on the questions you've asked I suggest you do more research before flashing anything on your phone.
The ROMs listed in this forum have pretty good install instruction for anyone who has a basic knowledge of what they are doing (err go the comment about doing more research).
Did you make a backup before you flashed the ROM you can't even remember the name of? What slot did you flash the ROM to?
It would be helpful if you could tell us what ROM you tried to flash and where you found it.
Always make a backup of your stock rom before flashing anything.
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warpedmind0u812 said:
It literally says "How to root Verizon's Samsung Galaxy S5" in the title.
If you feel theres a need for another thread explaining things, talk to a moderator about making one.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2732110
Any Input/Opinions WELCOME!!!!!!!!!!
BigBot96 said:
Answered your questions above in RED.
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jpcalhoun said:
No offense meant, but based on the questions you've asked I suggest you do more research before flashing anything on your phone.
The ROMs listed in this forum have pretty good install instruction for anyone who has a basic knowledge of what they are doing (err go the comment about doing more research).
Did you make a backup before you flashed the ROM you can't even remember the name of? What slot did you flash the ROM to?
It would be helpful if you could tell us what ROM you tried to flash and where you found it.
Always make a backup of your stock rom before flashing anything.
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You mean something like this thread which already exists?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784860
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I mentioned i wasn't exactly sure how i boot looped my. Still don't because I can't remember for the life of me which ROM it was! I thought i book marked it... Whichever one it was, it wanted me to flash 3-4 different zips once in SafeStrap. First ZIP is when the boot loop occuured.
ANYWAY...
I installed SafeStrap using the instructions found HERE.
I wanted to install THIS ONE because it had the KTweaker which is totally awesome toplay with but i dont think my 900-V allows sit.\\
BUT:
I want as many people's opinion as possible on this (I will create a separate thread). I have T-Mobile but was old a Verizon Phone. I have issues with dropped calls, slow speeds, among others. I want to know if this is legal.
Any and all are welcome to respond as i feel they should pay for making me pay $60 fora cab (Oneway) and then selling me a crap phone. Plus the wall charger didn't work. The data cable did so at least i had another wall charger.
In Case your Wondering... yes i do have the receipt.
THE BEST PART IS: T-Mobile said they've never heard of them when i called and gave them the address off of the receipt.
Honestly, i would like to go in there and walk out with another S5, maybe even with this one paid off, lol. But PLEASE ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.
exitpr0gram said:
I mentioned i wasn't exactly sure how i boot looped my. Still don't because I can't remember for the life of me which ROM it was! I thought i book marked it... Whichever one it was, it wanted me to flash 3-4 different zips once in SafeStrap. First ZIP is when the boot loop occuured.
ANYWAY...
I installed SafeStrap using the instructions found HERE.
I wanted to install THIS ONE because it had the KTweaker which is totally awesome toplay with but i dont think my 900-V allows sit.\\
BUT:
I want as many people's opinion as possible on this (I will create a separate thread). I have T-Mobile but was old a Verizon Phone. I have issues with dropped calls, slow speeds, among others. I want to know if this is legal.
Any and all are welcome to respond as i feel they should pay for making me pay $60 fora cab (Oneway) and then selling me a crap phone. Plus the wall charger didn't work. The data cable did so at least i had another wall charger.
In Case your Wondering... yes i do have the receipt.
THE BEST PART IS: T-Mobile said they've never heard of them when i called and gave them the address off of the receipt.
Honestly, i would like to go in there and walk out with another S5, maybe even with this one paid off, lol. But PLEASE ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME.
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You need to seriously stop and do a lot more reading before you try anything else with your phone. The ROM you linked above that you said you want to flash is for the International version of the Galaxy S5 and will hard brick your phone. The forum where that ROM is posted (Samsung Galaxy S5) is for the International version. The US variants of the S5 are broken down by carrier. Hence this is the Verizon Galaxy S5 forum. You bought your phone from some fly-by-night place, and it turned out to be a Verizon variant when you needed a T-Mobile variant.
If you are going to keep the Verizon variant you bought and use it on T-Mobile, you will only get Edge speeds through T-Mobile and never get 4G speeds. It is legal to use a Verizon phone on T-Mobile's network, it just won't work as well as you have already experienced. You need to change the APNs on your phone to get the best performance you can on T-Mobile. But it's still not going to be as good as using the T-Mobile variant on the T-Mobile network. If you went into that store and specifically asked for a T-Mobile Galaxy S5 and they sold you a Verizon variant, they would have a problem. If you went into the store and simply bought the cheapest S5 they had without telling them you needed a T-Mobile variant, then that is completely legal on their part. You don't need to create a separate thread to get everyone's opinions on the legality of your purchase. What I said above pretty much sums it up.
Also, if you are planning on keeping the Verizon variant and want to flash a ROM through safestrap, the ROM you want to flash has to be of the same build as the current build on your phone. So if your S5 is on NHA, you should only flash an NHA based ROM in safestrap. Or if you phone is on NI2, an NI2 based ROM. So letting everyone know which build your phone currently has will help us let you know which ROMs are safe to flash on your phone.
Sorry if all of this comes across as harsh, but I'm trying to help prevent you from turning your phone into a useless paperweight. You seem very confused by a lot of the information found here in the forums, and that is a very good time to slow down, take your time, and make sure you understand what you are doing at every step.
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You need to seriously stop and do a lot more reading before you try anything else with your phone. The ROM you linked above that you said you want to flash is for the International version of the Galaxy S5 and will hard brick your phone. The forum where that ROM is posted (Samsung Galaxy S5) is for the International version. The US variants of the S5 are broken down by carrier. Hence this is the Verizon Galaxy S5 forum. You bought your phone from some fly-by-night place, and it turned out to be a Verizon variant when you needed a T-Mobile variant.
If you are going to keep the Verizon variant you bought and use it on T-Mobile, you will only get Edge speeds through T-Mobile and never get 4G speeds. It is legal to use a Verizon phone on T-Mobile's network, it just won't work as well as you have already experienced. You need to change the APNs on your phone to get the best performance you can on T-Mobile. But it's still not going to be as good as using the T-Mobile variant on the T-Mobile network. If you went into that store and specifically asked for a T-Mobile Galaxy S5 and they sold you a Verizon variant, they would have a problem. If you went into the store and simply bought the cheapest S5 they had without telling them you needed a T-Mobile variant, then that is completely legal on their part. You don't need to create a separate thread to get everyone's opinions on the legality of your purchase. What I said above pretty much sums it up.
Also, if you are planning on keeping the Verizon variant and want to flash a ROM through safestrap, the ROM you want to flash has to be of the same build as the current build on your phone. So if your S5 is on NHA, you should only flash an NHA based ROM in safestrap. Or if you phone is on NI2, an NI2 based ROM. So letting everyone know which build your phone currently has will help us let you know which ROMs are safe to flash on your phone.
Sorry if all of this comes across as harsh, but I'm trying to help prevent you from turning your phone into a useless paperweight. You seem very confused by a lot of the information found here in the forums, and that is a very good time to slow down, take your time, and make sure you understand what you are doing at every step.
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ALL of this information can be confusing and I doubt anyway one will deny that fact. The MAIN point is that i know how to fix it, right? This is why I eventually want to make a straight-forward thread about how to do things to which phone properly.
People learn from their mistakes.
I have been learning more and more as i go along but the fact i have T-Mobile service but a Verizon phone just added to the confusion.
Secondly i went in to a T-Mobile Store, so of course i wanted a T-Mobile phone, not a Verizon one. See, everyone makes stupid mistakes and misinterprets things :laugh:
exitpr0gram said:
ALL of this information can be confusing and I doubt anyway one will deny that fact. The MAIN point is that i know how to fix it, right? This is why I eventually want to make a straight-forward thread about how to do things to which phone properly.
People learn from their mistakes.
I have been learning more and more as i go along but the fact i have T-Mobile service but a Verizon phone just added to the confusion.
Secondly i went in to a T-Mobile Store, so of course i wanted a T-Mobile phone, not a Verizon one. See, everyone makes stupid mistakes and misinterprets things :laugh:
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I didn't make a stupid mistake and misinterpret anything. Please show me where in your previous posts you wrote you went to a T-Mobile store. The only thing you wrote was you had the receipt and T-Mobile never heard of the store. Logical to assume you didn't go to a T-Mobile store from that description.
Yea. Whatever.
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I didn't make a stupid mistake and misinterpret anything. Please show me where in your previous posts you wrote you went to a T-Mobile store. The only thing you wrote was you had the receipt and T-Mobile never heard of the store. Logical to assume you didn't go to a T-Mobile store from that description.
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OK Your right, i didn't meantion it. You feel like your testosterone levels have increase now? Jesus.
From the moment you've replied to my posts you've had an attitude that is barely detectable.
Thanks for your help but you need to get out more and learn some people skills,dude. ****.
Look dude, we get it. You went and bought a new toy and couldnt wait to play with it. We're all guilty of that at some point. But blaming your mistakes on someone else, like when you blame the devs for not being straight forward with their roms, although with every example you have given here they really have been, all you need to do is read their posts, you'll get what your getting now. The only one you have to blame here is yourself. For not researching what you have first and just jumping into flashing a rom that was not developed for the phone you actually have. We tried to help you out and point you in the right direction but you decided to be the one with the attitude. Not landshark or my self. I think before you shell out advice on leaening people skills to someone else, you might want to practice what you preach first.
Hello,i need help, i was trying to root my wifes samsung s5 G900F with lollipop , and used in download mode odin with CF-Auto-Root-klte-kltexx-smg900f.tar with only auto reboot checked and after rebbot gave an error and went again to download mode tried to install openrecovery-twrp-2.8.1.0-klte now with f.reset time checked also, with error of not been able to open mtp. made shutdown and tried to turn on phone and now it doesnt work nothing, not even light when charging.
can somenone help...
Seems as my ATT S7E Silver from AT&T came with an unlocked bootloader, I am able to enable OEM Mode.
If anyone has any methods to fully check if it's unlocked please lmk, not sure if this is some sort of glitch or something?
NotSoSuper- said:
Seems as my ATT S7E Silver from AT&T came with an unlocked bootloader, I am able to enable OEM Mode.
If anyone has any methods to fully check if it's unlocked please lmk, not sure if this is some sort of glitch or something?
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Your bootloader isn't unlocked
"And on that bombshell!"
Sent from my smokin G935A
s7freak said:
Your bootloader isn't unlocked
"And on that bombshell!"
Sent from my smokin G935A
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So then what is the OEM Switch?
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So then what is the OEM Switch?
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If the bootloader was unlockable then you would have to have that button engaged. ATT bootloader is locked down tight and won't be broke
"And on that bombshell!"
Sent from my smokin G935A
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If the bootloader was unlockable then you would have to have that button engaged. ATT bootloader is locked down tight and won't be broke
"And on that bombshell!"
Sent from my smokin G935A
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So when I enabled it, it did nothing lol?
Thanks for the info.
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So when I enabled it, it did nothing lol?
Thanks for the info.
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Sorry man but no LOL but don't give up someone might give as a root exploit even if we have to use FlashFire
"And on that bombshell!"
Sent from my smokin G935A
My S7 Edge is my first Samsung phone. Can anyone tell me what makes something like FlashFire a last resort? What is wrong with it as a root method?
czucker said:
My S7 Edge is my first Samsung phone. Can anyone tell me what makes something like FlashFire a last resort? What is wrong with it as a root method?
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Because it isn't a root method.
FlashFire is an excellent application/pseudo recovery that allows one to back up/flash certain Roms and mods.
There isn't root for the G935A yet and there might not be one keep your fingers crossed
"And on that bombshell!"
Sent from my smokin G935A
Definitely not wanting another locked ATT piece of crap. As for ATT...
I will own my G900A on OC4 TMS5 3.0 custom rom in 3 months, THEN WHAT??? They are choking us programmer types to death these days (no, I do not do phone programming, old dog here. I wish I knew how. Too old and lazy...LOL).
Yeah, my S5 from at&t has a locked bootloader and I'm rooted. I have to use OA1 bootloader though for it to work. Everything else is using OF3.
I think each time I get a phone that root will never happen and it always eventually happens. The S7 seems like it's selling like hotcakes, so I'm confident that one of the genius's here will figure it out.
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Seems as my ATT S7E Silver from AT&T came with an unlocked bootloader, I am able to enable OEM Mode.
If anyone has any methods to fully check if it's unlocked please lmk, not sure if this is some sort of glitch or something?
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If you require root, don't buy carrier branded phones. Mainly ATT and Verizon.
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If you require root, don't buy carrier branded phones. Mainly ATT and Verizon.
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Where did that person say "I require root"? I'm...pretty sure they were wondering about the oem switch in the settings, because it's a curious thing. Besides, what if they want to root their at&t or Verizon phone? Maybe it's a younger person whose parents got the phone for them. Maybe they couldn't just shell out eight hun for an international phone. Maybe they're just learning about rooting after buying their phone. Maybe they just want to root their at&t phone & so what? You know, the odds are there will be root early on for the s7 on all variants, and then they'll patch the exploit, so... Anyway, your comment just seems kinda douchey.
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Where did that person say "I require root"? I'm...pretty sure they were wondering about the oem switch in the settings, because it's a curious thing. Besides, what if they want to root their at&t or Verizon phone? Maybe it's a younger person whose parents got the phone for them. Maybe they couldn't just shell out eight hun for an international phone. Maybe they're just learning about rooting after buying their phone. Maybe they just want to root their at&t phone & so what? You know, the odds are there will be root early on for the s7 on all variants, and then they'll patch the exploit, so... Anyway, your comment just seems kinda douchey.
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I think you're reading too much into one sentence on an internet based forum. Clearly, since you took time out of your day to try an counsel me with a paragraph of verbiage suggesting that I was somehow patronizing the original post. I was simply suggesting that carriers such as AT&T and Verizon are making it increasingly difficult on users to have full control over their phones, which, of course, ties into bootloader unlocking, etc. A poor attempt on your part to try and do the job of a forum moderator, obviously. Let's keep it on topic please
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I think you're reading too much into one sentence on an internet based forum. Clearly, since you took time out of your day to try an counsel me with a paragraph of verbiage suggesting that I was somehow patronizing the original post. I was simply suggesting that carriers such as AT&T and Verizon are making it increasingly difficult on users to have full control over their phones, which, of course, ties into bootloader unlocking, etc. A poor attempt on your part to try and do the job of a forum moderator, obviously. Let's keep it on topic please
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This is a thread regarding the oem switch and whether or not the BOOTLOADER is unlocked when activating it. Then you added your snotty two cents about "if you require root," which is way off topic, and made you sound like an a******. Then you allude to me being off topic? Nah, man, nah. If I misinterpreted what you were attempting to express, it's because your critical thinking is sub-par, and you should think clearly about what you're going to write before doing so. But that's really not the case and you know it. You jump to conclusions too. I'm not attempting to moderate, I'm just calling you out on your s***. A hard pill to swallow, a difficult reflection to face. Now you want to be nasty with me; That's cool.
I just got a bogo on at&t for two s7 edge phones. I don't "require root," but I sure hope it becomes available. Got two vr gears, and two 64gb micro sd's free when I did the deal at bestbuy. I think root will happen, but to get back to topic, I doubt that the bootloader will ever get unlocked. I just want you to know that I care, and if you need more counseling, I'm here for you. Peace.
~Xjimmy
The switch alone doesn't unlock the bootloader even on devices that can have the bootloader unlocked. It is part of native android and I'm betting Samsung just forgot to remove/hide it.
Also it's not just the att and Verizon versions. All the US models have locked bootloaders with no unlock available.
I wish you luck but to be honest all the devs that might have been able to do it refuse to work on Samsung devices anymore. Just look at some other Samsung devices with huge bounties set. No one has done it yet.
If you need an unlocked bootloader and or root then Samsung is not the best Idea. They want to lock their devices down permanently. Which no one can really blame them as they try to break into the business market and modders make up less then 1% of their sales and shrinking.
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Also it's not just the att and Verizon versions. All the US models have locked bootloaders with no unlock available.
I wish you luck but to be honest all the devs that might have been able to do it refuse to work on Samsung devices anymore. Just look at some other Samsung devices with huge bounties set. No one has done it yet.
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Hi, what phone would you suggest? I love my ATT S5, which is still on OC4 with a custom rom. I will own the darn thing in June (not letting ATT get their greedy grubby hands on it, I would rather step on it to death...LOL) and trying to figure out what next. It is a great phone and still pretty fast and it is almost 2 years old!!! Amazing!
I know what you are saying about Samsung. They pretty much killed the development on their phones. Renovate is working on a rom for the 935-F and even they say they can only work in smali. I would get a Nexus, but NOT without an sdcard. I do not understand why they do not have them in there. Even a 64gb internal is really not enough for system, data, music and backup (I have a 64gb sdcard).
I HATE STOCK!!! SO BUTT UGLY... :silly::laugh:
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Hi, what phone would you suggest? I love my ATT S5, which is still on OC4 with a custom rom. I will own the darn thing in June (not letting ATT get their greedy grubby hands on it, I would rather step on it to death...LOL) and trying to figure out what next. It is a great phone and still pretty fast and it is almost 2 years old!!! Amazing!
I know what you are saying about Samsung. They pretty much killed the development on their phones. Renovate is working on a rom for the 935-F and even they say they can only work in smali. I would get a Nexus, but NOT without an sdcard. I do not understand why they do not have them in there. Even a 64gb internal is really not enough for system, data, music and backup (I have a 64gb sdcard).
I HATE STOCK!!! SO BUTT UGLY... :silly::laugh:
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Buy an International G935F S7 Edge unlockable bootloader and factory unlocked for different carriers.
My last two devices have been international. I bought the S6 Edge Plus which I'm now selling and I bought the G935F and it's gorgeous.
"And on that bombshell!"
Sent from my G935F Rockin Echoe Awesomeness
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Buy an International G935F S7 Edge unlockable bootloader and factory unlocked for different carriers.
My last two devices have been international. I bought the S6 Edge Plus which I'm now selling and I bought the G935F and it's gorgeous.
Sent from my G935F Rockin Echoe Awesomeness
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Yeah, I been looking at it. I need to see the custom rom development before I buy one, if I buy it. Going to save a few months of no phone pymt. Maybe later in the year the price will go down some. Also not really a fan of unpullable batteries...and who knows what will be out next.
One of the few good things about ATT is that when you have paid off your phone on the Next Plan and are on a Mobile Share Plan, they grandfather the $25 line charge discount in even if you don't buy a new phone from them. So they say...LOL. Have simm will travel? Anyway I only give my friend $40 a month being the 4th line and I will probably pay him $25 when my phone is paid off.
Have you checked out the Renovate rom? In Beta 2 now. They are supposed to start modding soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-...renovate-edge-beta-1-sm-g935f-t3339149/page34
Anyway I will hopefully get to play with "M" next month if it comes out and if @muniz_ri can do for 6.whatever as he did for 5.0 + 5.1 + 5.1.1 and keep the BL at OA1 to go back if need be. Maybe I can stomach Unrooted Stock for a bit (but I really need my Viper!). Will be interesting to see if the S5 will run better or worse...LOL
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Yeah, I been looking at it. I need to see the custom rom development before I buy one, if I buy it. Going to save a few months of no phone pymt. Maybe later in the year the price will go down some. Also not really a fan of unpullable batteries...and who knows what will be out next.
One of the few good things about ATT is that when you have paid off your phone on the Next Plan and are on a Mobile Share Plan, they grandfather the $25 line charge discount in even if you don't buy a new phone from them. So they say...LOL. Have simm will travel? Anyway I only give my friend $40 a month being the 4th line and I will probably pay him $25 when my phone is paid off.
Have you checked out the Renovate rom? In Beta 2 now. They are supposed to start modding soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-...renovate-edge-beta-1-sm-g935f-t3339149/page34
Anyway I will hopefully get to play with "M" next month if it comes out and if @muniz_ri can do for 6.whatever as he did for 5.0 + 5.1 + 5.1.1 and keep the BL at OA1 to go back if need be. Maybe I can stomach Unrooted Stock for a bit (but I really need my Viper!). Will be interesting to see if the S5 will run better or worse...LOL
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Yeah I flashed Renovate Rom it's a bit buggy for me right now. I'm running Echoe Rom it's flawless.
This device has a big enough battery and now with Ex Sd card it's wonderful.
Not a lot of development but with the theme store and Xposed working I'm pleased.
"And on that bombshell!"
Sent from my G935F Rockin Echoe Awesomeness
I would say if you want rom development then get a nexus. Pretty soon that will be people's only choice. And even then that maybe coming to an end with Google making fixes but not pushing the fixes to aosp.
As for the international version of the s7, development will be buggy as they always are with that chip set. Without proper documentation there will always be things that don't work like camera issues.
As for why no sdcard in the nexus. Well that is a two fold issue. One is people really are dumb. (average not users here... Ok well some) and have no idea between the 2 types. The second is people always wanting to move apps to the sdcard which is never a good idea. And then you have knock off sdcards that cause issues and people blame the device because they don't know any better.
When I got my first phone (DROID RAZR M) I didn't even know what root was. After a year and my warranty's term, I found out and unlocked the bootloader just for fun. When I got my Verizon Note 4, I found out about KNOX and its hardware flag that can't be reversed. I had to wait 1.5 years for root on that anyway, but I'm keeping my Samsung tablet stock for the first year because of that flag.
My question: does LG have anything like Samsung KNOX? If I root right now, will I not just be able to flash back to stock and keep my warranty if needed? Or is LG nicer to power users?
Since I lose all data with a bootloader unlock, I'd rather do it sooner than later, but if I permanently trip some flag by doing so, I'd rather wait the year.
I've moved to T-Mobile, so I have the H918. I know I can root and I've seen the guide, but I don't know if I should root.
Up to you. Should wait for root and especially TWRP to mature. Limited right now.
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Up to you. Should wait for root and especially TWRP to mature. Limited right now.
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It's actually really exciting to see all the development for this phone so far. I don't have much basis to judge from, but it's definitely a lot more than my Note.
So there's no hardware switch that'll be tripped? Is root reversible?
I rooted mine yesterday. When I turn it on it says that the bootloader is unlocked and I will receive that message everyday until I relock it. Im not new to rooting, and im also not a develepore, but I was checking out some of the adb and fastboot commands and I'm almost positive you could just simply reflash the stock rom and kernel, and from there use fastboot to relock the bootloader. I might try it tomorrow for you and let you know actually. Because this is the first time I have bought a brand new high end phone to actually experience the root slowly become available.
@Rbiter is correct though, other then simply just having supersu, and the simple root explorer stuff, nothing else has been upgraded really to work on nougat, and the current version of twrp is said to be sketchy when flashing stuff because it was just released not to long ago.
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I rooted mine yesterday. When I turn it on it says that the bootloader is unlocked and I will receive that message everyday until I relock it. Im not new to rooting, and im also not a develepore, but I was checking out some of the adb and fastboot commands and I'm almost positive you could just simply reflash the stock rom and kernel, and from there use fastboot to relock the bootloader. I might try it tomorrow for you and let you know actually. Because this is the first time I have bought a brand new high end phone to actually experience the root slowly become available.
@Rbiter is correct though, other then simply just having supersu, and the simple root explorer stuff, nothing else has been upgraded really to work on nougat, and the current version of twrp is said to be sketchy when flashing stuff because it was just released not to long ago.
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Well I guess Google does a pretty good job of backing up app data (which I didn't know they even did), so if I have to wipe, it probably won't be too bad.
If no one has heard of an LG KNOX equivalent, that gives me hope that there is none, and I'll be able to revert, which is definitely a plus for LG.
Yeah well this is my first LG, my last android was the AT&T Samsung galaxy 4, and then I switched to iphone for a little like a year or so, but I've heard nothing but great things about lg, except for there UI I think its called? There touchwiz or something of the sort is a little bloated' but hey that's why I am so excited for the custom roms and kernels! I truly wish I had on hands training with making one or the other. It would totally be my number one hobby!
Ill try to un-root tomorrow after I over fill on turkey and let you know if I can get the boot up message away though and if I can I will compose how I did it.
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Yeah well this is my first LG, my last android was the AT&T Samsung galaxy 4, and then I switched to iphone for a little like a year or so, but I've heard nothing but great things about lg, except for there UI I think its called? There touchwiz or something of the sort is a little bloated' but hey that's why I am so excited for the custom roms and kernels! I truly wish I had on hands training with making one or the other. It would totally be my number one hobby!
Ill try to un-root tomorrow after I over fill on turkey and let you know if I can get the boot up message away though and if I can I will compose how I did it.
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Very much appreciated. Did the 910A ever get root btw?
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Very much appreciated. Did the 910A ever get root btw?
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To my knowledge it was only the H918 and US996
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594
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To my knowledge it was only the H918 and US996
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594
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910A as in SM-N910A as in Note 4 ATT
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910A as in SM-N910A as in Note 4 ATT
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My bad xD this thread is under the LG V20 so I just assumed that it was just another model of the v20. I have no idea, did a quick Google search and it appears there are some posts on it being able to be rooted, I dont like the hole Knox thing. They should just let us be free to do with what we want with the product we bought
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My bad xD this thread is under the LG V20 so I just assumed that it was just another model of the v20. I have no idea, did a quick Google search and it appears there are some posts on it being able to be rooted, I dont like the hole Knox thing. They should just let us be free to do with what we want with the product we bought
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Hey at least it isn't Apple, where you don't even own your copy of iOS.
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Hey at least it isn't Apple, where you don't even own your copy of iOS.
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I agree!
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Yeah well this is my first LG, my last android was the AT&T Samsung galaxy 4, and then I switched to iphone for a little like a year or so, but I've heard nothing but great things about lg, except for there UI I think its called? There touchwiz or something of the sort is a little bloated' but hey that's why I am so excited for the custom roms and kernels! I truly wish I had on hands training with making one or the other. It would totally be my number one hobby!
Ill try to un-root tomorrow after I over fill on turkey and let you know if I can get the boot up message away though and if I can I will compose how I did it.
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Hi Christufurr,
Did you have a chance to unroot your phone ? If yes, please let me how did yiu do that.
Thank you
Hey guys now that the G900A is fully rooted do think well start to some development going on for it?
isnt the bootloader still locked on that one?
Is there a way i can check if its locked?
The bootloader on the G900A is still locked. We can't really do anything about it so we can't really do recovery on it.
youd think that at&t would let it go on aging devices. I know the S5 is still popular (im using a sprint one on at&t service), but their death grip REALLY needs to be relaxed
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youd think that at&t would let it go on aging devices. I know the S5 is still popular (im using a sprint one on at&t service), but their death grip REALLY needs to be relaxed
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The only way you can make AT&T do anything is to go to the FCC and try to make them do stuff.
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The only way you can make AT&T do anything is to go to the FCC and try to make them do stuff.
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oh i know, i just dont get why they retain such a death grip on their 2.75 year old devices