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I want to know that the total ram showed in settings=>applications=>manage applications=>running applications. My retail version showing 420mb free plus 173mb used ram total 593mb ram on the system instead of 1gb. Can someone plz check in their tabs either retail or io version plz. Thanks
I would guess a significant portion of your "missing" RAM is set aside for the GPU. The ended up being the case for the Galaxy S phones - 512mb RAM, but only 330 available for the OS and apps.
Still, 600mb is a pretty respectable amount for these devices.
My Xoom shows 120MB used and 379MB free. So the total amount shown seems normal. I would like to know why there is so little free memory on GT10.1 if it's a stock Honeycomb?
It's currently 169 / 412 MB on my GT, so I guess about 400 MB is set aside for Graphic processing.
Reboot your GT 10.1 and then report here the RAM statistic ... *please*.
After boot my 10.1 I/O shows 143MB used and 476MB free.
mesasone said:
I would guess a significant portion of your "missing" RAM is set aside for the GPU. The ended up being the case for the Galaxy S phones - 512mb RAM, but only 330 available for the OS and apps.
Still, 600mb is a pretty respectable amount for these devices.
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true, considering the ipad manages to run smoothly with just 500mb
after reboot tab showing 169 used and 449 free. Running stock honeycomb 3.1 retail version tab.
I've got 148 used and 412 free
I second all of the above. Mine is usually around 600 MB or less in total. So I guess that's normal? It wouldn't have anything to do with the tab showing hiccups and lags after using it a little bit? Everything was very fast when I used it for the first day and then it started slowing down, especially when I run live wallpapers. Did any of you experience that? It breaks my heart to admit that iPad2 (even iPad) runs so much more smoothly than my Galaxy.
I posted this in another thread but thought it was worthy of its own thread.
I've owned a lot of Android devices with 1GB of RAM - Xoom, Galaxy Tab 10.1, Galaxy Note, and the original Transformer. This is the first android device that actually shows 1gb of ram. Every 1gb phone or tablet I've had only lists around 750mb total, and then only about 400 or so free on a fresh boot. The explanation has always been that 1gb is shared ram and that the mixing 250mb or so is for video ram. You can see total and available ram in an app called OSMonitor. Anyway, the tf300 actually shows 1gb total ram, and 750 free on a fresh boot. So that's an extra 250mb of usable ram over other devices.
Thoughts?
The device has more as 1GB RAM (1,2GB maybe)?
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It's advertised as 1GB of RAM, so either it has more actual RAM (1.2 like you suggest) or it has dedicated video RAM somehow.
It's very possible this is inherent to Tegra3. I do not have any Tegra 3 devices to check. I'm going to ask in the Prime Q&A section.
Obviously either a design flaw or outright false advertisement. You should sue them for giving you more ram than advertised.
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Obviously either a design flaw or outright false advertisement. You should sue them for giving you more ram than advertised.
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WTF? I'm not complaining I'm trying to understand it. It's different than every other Android device.
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WTF? I'm not complaining I'm trying to understand it. It's different than every other Android device.
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Goodintentions is known to be sarcastic you will learn that in time. Most likley it is because tegra 3's gpu has its own dedicated ram so it does not go into the system ram
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Goodintentions is known to be sarcastic you will learn that in time. Most likley it is because tegra 3's gpu has its own dedicated ram so it does not go into the system ram
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That would explain it. do you have a source link to back that up? not finding anything in a google search.
Thanks.
Everything im finding is that it just has the 1gb of ram, but possibly the way it handles it is different and may expand or shrink that video ram depending on what it needs.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-3-processor.html
just general info
also is DDR3
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also is DDR3
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Yeah DDR3 means it's faster and has more bandwidth, but that wouldn't affect whether the system has dedicated or shared video RAM.
Is it possible that it's just more efficient in the usage of it's 1GB of ram than the previous products? I can't find any mention anywhere of Tegra 3 specifically doing anything or of the TF300 having more secret ram or anything.
That was the first thing that I noticed about this tab, is that the memory management on this tab is awesome. I can be running GTA3, have two or three tabs open in the browser and also be streaming music and the RAM only drops to about 550MB. At idle on a fresh boot, around 750MB free at idle, and If i do a task killer it will jump up to 830MB temporarily. I can only think it's becuase of the Tegra3 CPU. Regardless it's nice to see a tab with so much free RAM.
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Is it possible that it's just more efficient in the usage of it's 1GB of ram than the previous products? I can't find any mention anywhere of Tegra 3 specifically doing anything or of the TF300 having more secret ram or anything.
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No because we're not talking about FREE RAM here we're taking about TOTAL RAM. either the system has more than 1GB or it's not sharing RAM with the video card.
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At idle on a fresh boot, around 750MB free at idle, and If i do a task killer it will jump up to 830MB temporarily. I can only think it's becuase of the Tegra3 CPU. Regardless it's nice to see a tab with so much free RAM.
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Huge amounts of free RAM is not something nice to see; it's a pointless waste. I guess that misunderstanding is still pervasive in the "OMG tasks are in RAM MUST KILL THEM" community ...
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Huge amounts of free RAM is not something nice to see; it's a pointless waste. I guess that misunderstanding is still pervasive in the "OMG tasks are in RAM MUST KILL THEM" community ...
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Huge amounts of free RAM on a fresh boot is a GREAT thing. It means that the OS is lightweight and not loading tons of bloatware into memory. Now after using the tablet and opening tons of apps the free RAM should go down, if not then yes it is wasting RAM by dumping stuff out of memory.
But besides that the topic at hand is total RAM. more total RAM means more apps can stay in the background which means better multitasking.
They all actually have 1GB of RAM. The difference is simply that some chips separate the video RAM and the system RAM, where others are able to use a shared memory space and dynamically allocate RAM to video as necessary.
Most likely, devices with higher memory bandwidth will be able to use dynamically allocation because the extra bandwidth provides the overhead necessary to minimize performance impacts should the GPU need to pull more memory from the system on the fly.
On Tegra2 devices which were limited to 1 channel of 32bit ddr2, there is much less memory bandwidth than on tegra3 with ddr3 (or dual channel ddr2 like ipad). In this instance, it would cause a performance hit to have to free up extra memory from background tasks and then reallocate it to the gpu - so the solution is to just partition the entire memory into two sections each of which are generally large enough for both their respective duties: video ram and system ram.
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Yeah DDR3 means it's faster and has more bandwidth, but that wouldn't affect whether the system has dedicated or shared video RAM.
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current reviews & memory benchmarks have shown the 300 ddr3 ram shows no Performance improvement over Prime ddr2. developers here can probably make the most it though.
Finally you all have your own section. CONGRATS!
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They all actually have 1GB of RAM. The difference is simply that some chips separate the video RAM and the system RAM, where others are able to use a shared memory space and dynamically allocate RAM to video as necessary.
Most likely, devices with higher memory bandwidth will be able to use dynamically allocation because the extra bandwidth provides the overhead necessary to minimize performance impacts should the GPU need to pull more memory from the system on the fly.
On Tegra2 devices which were limited to 1 channel of 32bit ddr2, there is much less memory bandwidth than on tegra3 with ddr3 (or dual channel ddr2 like ipad). In this instance, it would cause a performance hit to have to free up extra memory from background tasks and then reallocate it to the gpu - so the solution is to just partition the entire memory into two sections each of which are generally large enough for both their respective duties: video ram and system ram.
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he makes a great point. although no memory improvements shown in benchmarking, what he is saying could be seen as an improvement though. good info.
300 is not the only Tegra3 kid on the block with new DDR3 ram. Toshiba just released their Tegra3 Excite 10.1 in. tablet. it has gorilla glass, 1280x800 display, and 1gb DDR3 ram. available in 16 or 32gb. you can also order a 64gb.
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current reviews & memory benchmarks have shown the 300 ddr3 ram shows no Performance improvement over Prime ddr2. developers here can probably make the most it though.
Finally you all have your own section. CONGRATS!
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he makes a great point. although no memory improvements shown in benchmarking, what he is saying could be seen as an improvement though. good info.
300 is not the only Tegra3 kid on the block with new DDR3 ram. Toshiba just released their Tegra3 Excite 10.1 in. tablet. it has gorilla glass, 1280x800 display, and 1gb DDR3 ram. available in 16 or 32gb. you can also order a 64gb.
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500 bucks for a 32gig.... No sir.
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In the spec section Amazon lists the TF300 as having 2GB of RAM...I'm sure its a mistype though.
http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-TF300-T-B1-BL-10-1-Inch-Tablet/dp/B007P4YAPK
Running 2.6 Kernel mine shows 983,2 MB of Total RAM.
After installing some nec. apps it drops down from ~850 MB to ~630 of
available RAM. After removal of most BW it shows ~820 MB of free RAM.
It's normal behaviour. It just acts like the Prime. Open it und you'll see a Prime with some faster MemoryChips & an optimized board design
I just hated my Prime for many reasons, but I really love this one
They've improved very much here
Does anyone who has looked at the kernel source know if we will be able to do RAM overclocking? We know from the whitepaper that playing games on the resolution that the N10 has will take 10+ gigabytes per second of bandwidth so a memory OC should be able to help out considerably, especially if overclocking the GPU as well.
Additionally, how come we never see an area in the tunables where we can tweak timings? All we ever see is voltage and frequency, but the memory has to have primary and subtimings as well, just like all regular computer memory. If someone could make the timings able to be modified we might be able to get some series bandwidth increases out of these.
Oh and one last thing, why dont we ever see memory voltage setting either? We have core, gpu, and video decoding core voltages but being able to tweak memory voltage would be a great addition too. We already know that the Exynos 5 dual uses low power 1.35v DDR3 memory. If Samsung's other LP 1.35v DDR3 chips are any indication, these things have MASSIVE overclock potential. I have seen people running them up over 2400MHz!
bump since we have device support now. Any kernels dev's want to look into the possibility of these things?
I too would be very interested in seeing some RAM overclocking/voltage tweaking; I believe it could open up a lot of potential
If a kernel gets developed that can accomplish this I'll go to the store and buy a n10 that very same day.
Right now I'll show patience and wait to read true reviews from actual users.
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I'm not overclocking my device, in fact if anything i'll under volt it. If I could get a 3rd party accidental warranty, it would be a whole different story.
Hi guys,
I am curious about your experience with RAM usage on your S6E+
If I'm not doing anything (just checking RAM usage with my SmartManager) it says: 60%
- 2.2GB System & Apps are using
To me it seems alot, since it leaves me "only" with 1,4GB of RAM left.
So I would like to see your experience and I could judge better.
best,
Dpool
I just dont understand why people complain about "Ram" usage on an Android, free Ram doesn't mean "fast" mobile.
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I just dont understand why people complain about "Ram" usage on an Android, free Ram doesn't mean "fast" mobile.
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No, Free RAM does not mean that. But it means that I only have little Free RAM left, without doing anything. I'm worried about multitasking, since it supports split screen:
- 1 half of screen I'd play a game
- 1 half of screen I'd watch a YouTube video / Stream about the game
Well not all Android games support split screen, but just an example of where I can see heavy RAM needs.
Also, I did not complain, I am just wondering if it is normal to have 60% of RAM occupied by System itself. So, DemonSoul, may you share yours to compare?
Best,
Dpool
Dpool 8) said:
Hi guys,
I am curious about your experience with RAM usage on your S6E+
If I'm not doing anything (just checking RAM usage with my SmartManager) it says: 60%
- 2.2GB System & Apps are using
To me it seems alot, since it leaves me "only" with 1,4GB of RAM left.
So I would like to see your experience and I could judge better.
best,
Dpool
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Mate,
Samsung system apps and other Google services are using a good amount of RAM. You could use App disable pro and disable some of the unwanted system apps to free up some more RAM. Samsung does have a feature to kill a process in every 10 mintues. So that app you don't want running in background you can use that feature.
Killing apps will decrease your battery life and hurt performance because Android will just load them back up. It costs cycles to constantly load & kill apps. Apps don't burden the processor when resident in memory, hence don't expend battery or reduce performance.
Keeping memory free on a Windows PC was important decades ago when we had <1GB, and when memory got full, programs were shuffled off to the swap file on the hard disk. None of this applies to Android. No phone with >2GB of RAM has memory problems under normal circumstances.
After a new tablet mainly just for video streaming, Netflix’s etc, and playing old skool game emulators.
Is the 2gb of ram enough in this device?. I’m a little disappointed the ram is so low.
Allegedly, the 64GB model has 3GB of RAM. The thing I am more concerned about if whether the tablet meets the DRM requirements to stream Netflix and Prime in at least HD resolution.
I have 128GB version.
I think it's much better than I expected.
I have the 32 GB and it is much faster running than the 2018 tab a 10.5. 2gb is just enough this version of pie doesn't have Bixby features so not as much space used up on os.