CPU Hotplug on Oreo ROMs HARPIA - Moto G4 Play Questions & Answers

Does anyone know why in the roms Oreo does not have CPU Hotplug? Without It spending a Lot of battery Power, CPU clocks stay Full time at maximum.
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eduh9 said:
Does anyone know why in the roms Oreo does not have CPU Hotplug? Without It spending a Lot of battery Power, CPU clocks stay Full time at maximum.
Sorry my bad english
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Kernel controls CPU governors and their parameters. Likely some/all of the Oreo ROMs package a custom kernel that lacks the features you desire.

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Best GPU Govenor for any custom rom?

Can you guys give me the best GPU govenor for any kind of rom? thanks!
derking1 said:
Can you guys give me the best GPU govenor for any kind of rom? thanks!
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That'll depend on what you need your phone for.
If you want all your cores to run at max speed thereby maximizing performance on games and browsing pick the performance kernel.
Otherwise for normal usage just pick the interactive governer.
There's a lot of governors available but these 2 are the only ones that are important and actually useful. Major kernel developers only give support to these 2 governors as they are the most useful when compared to others.
Dont use any battery saving governer. Trust me, your phone will slow down and make it unusable.
Hope this helps!
Best for what?
Governors are built into the kernel, so if you want choices, you'll have to flash a kernel that has those choices. Some are for high performance. Some are for saving battery. And then there's ones in between. Some might work better if you underclock or undervolt to save battery. Some might work better if you run only 2 cores. Some have better wake-up speed from sleep. "Best" depends on what you plan to do with your phone.
Don't forget about profiles either. For example, I've been playing around with HellsCore kernel and HellsCore Manager. You can create profiles depending on what you're doing. Like, if you're plugged in and playing a game, set it for max performance. If you need it to last as long as possible, limit the max clock speed, run only 2 cores, and use a battery saving governor. With HellsCore Manager you can even mix it up; Performance or normal until battery hits 50% (or whatever), and then switches to a battery saving profile. Pretty nifty.

The best CPU governor for optimal battery saving

Guys, i need your opinions -
How do u think - what is the best CPU governor for maximum battery life ?
The possibilities are in the poll.
Keep in mind, that different cpu governors have different modes, so it will be advisable not only to vote for your favourite, but also to mention in the topic your prefered profile for the respective governor...
The mods for the poll are taken from arter97kernel...
that's how I use when I need that the battery lasts longer and gives me results.
sometimes even put the processor speed to 1000MHz .
It gets a little slow but it can handle
I forgot screen cpu but I have at 1400MHz and undervolt light
Hey ^^
well i prefer zzmoove with the zzmoove battery yank profile on Boeffla kernel 2.8 for Slimkat (check my Profile for more Infos: Link). It runs smooth, gives me more then enough Performance and also good Battery Saving. It also features a frequency lock when turning off the Screen and limits the max Freq to 600 mhz which is perfect if you want to run downloads or something similar without problems in the background and your screen is off, but also gives you good powersaving. Unfortunately if you hear Music it can stutter in zzmoove because of the Hotplugging functionality even when the screen is off. To solve this problem you have to turn off the Hotplugging Functionality at Screen off (i read that somewhere, but forgot where).
greetings kaz
gsms said:
Guys, i need your opinions -
How do u think - what is the best CPU governor for maximum battery life ?
The possibilities are in the poll.
Keep in mind, that different cpu governors have different modes, so it will be advisable not only to vote for your favourite, but also to mention in the topic your prefered profile for the respective governor...
The mods for the poll are taken from arter97kernel...
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I use S5 Sensation in my I9300 and the battery life is the better I have in my phone. The governor used by default is pegasusq.

Paranoid Android 7.3.0 vs. Lineage OS 14.1 - Doze / power / sleep?

Good morning Le Pro3 forum -
I've been switching between Paranoid Android and Lineage OS for the past few weeks. One thing I've noticed very specifically is that PA 7.3.0 (and 7.2.0...) does not seem to effectively go into 'doze' as well as Lineage OS. What I mean is that battery drain overnight is pretty high on PA (10-20%) while Lineage is very low (less than 5%) using the same applications.
So that I can better understand and troubleshoot, would anyone be willing to point me to other forum posts either here or on other forums that dive into troubleshooting this kind of thing? I'm not finding anything that useful that is *recent*.
Thanks in advance!
mdkathon said:
Good morning Le Pro3 forum -
I've been switching between Paranoid Android and Lineage OS for the past few weeks. One thing I've noticed very specifically is that PA 7.3.0 (and 7.2.0...) does not seem to effectively go into 'doze' as well as Lineage OS. What I mean is that battery drain overnight is pretty high on PA (10-20%) while Lineage is very low (less than 5%) using the same applications.
So that I can better understand and troubleshoot, would anyone be willing to point me to other forum posts either here or on other forums that dive into troubleshooting this kind of thing? I'm not finding anything that useful that is *recent*.
Thanks in advance!
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Slightly tangential, but how is the battery life overall compared to LineageOS? I've been running LineageOS and while it performs well, the battery life isn't nearly as good as stock EUI. As for over night battery drain, I get about 10% in 8-9 hours in stand by.
Hey. I tried every single rom out there from MoKee to Lineage and i can asure u one thing. Best for battery is Omni ROM (latest) + BlackScreen kernel version 3.6
Now i am a medium - heavy user. Lots of time on snapchat and playin games for about half an hour to a hour. I got 6 hours of screen on time wich is great really compared to other roms.
Now i also tried various combinations of using different governors and so on so i tested an option for about three days and then tried another one. I was seeking for the best possible battery life while don't have any stuttering or lags. Cuz if u put the cpu governor for example on impulse and then underclock it too... It lags like hell.
Soo what do u need to do to get also good standby performance?? I loose less than 3% over night.
Try following:
IN KERNEL AUDITOR
CPU: Both big and little cores governor set on alucard
Underclock the big cores to 1900 and little cores to 1440
GPU: governor set to msm-adreno-tz; underclock max frequency to 560 MHz; enable Adreno idler
I/O sheduler: set governor to noop; read-ahead 128 kB
Low Memory Killer: set profile to Agressive
Misc: Vibration strenght set on about 15%, disable Fsync, TCP must be westwood.
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Developer options:
Set logger buffer size to off
Set all three animation scales on 0.5x
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That is it. If u have any questions or something doesn't work as written -> reply back
P.S. turn off wi-fi during night. Helps a bunch.
insomnixXx said:
Hey. I tried every single rom out there from MoKee to Lineage and i can asure u one thing. Best for battery is Omni ROM (latest) + BlackScreen kernel version 3.6
Now i am a medium - heavy user. Lots of time on snapchat and playin games for about half an hour to a hour. I got 6 hours of screen on time wich is great really compared to other roms.
Now i also tried various combinations of using different governors and so on so i tested an option for about three days and then tried another one. I was seeking for the best possible battery life while don't have any stuttering or lags. Cuz if u put the cpu governor for example on impulse and then underclock it too... It lags like hell.
Soo what do u need to do to get also good standby performance?? I loose less than 3% over night.
Try following:
IN KERNEL AUDITOR
CPU: Both big and little cores governor set on alucard
Underclock the big cores to 1900 and little cores to 1440
GPU: governor set to msm-adreno-tz; underclock max frequency to 560 MHz; enable Adreno idler
I/O sheduler: set governor to noop; read-ahead 128 kB
Low Memory Killer: set profile to Agressive
Misc: Vibration strenght set on about 15%, disable Fsync, TCP must be westwood.
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Developer options:
Set logger buffer size to off
Set all three animation scales on 0.5x
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That is it. If u have any questions or something doesn't work as written -> reply back
P.S. turn off wi-fi during night. Helps a bunch.
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Hi mate, thank you for your detailed review. It helped me especially for kernel auditor settings. But i have an objection in my honest oppinion. I have tried both roms, AICP 12.1 and OmniROM and AICP is much better at battery department. But both rom is great in the rest.
SUMMERBREEZE said:
Hi mate, thank you for your detailed review. It helped me especially for kernel auditor settings. But i have an objection in my honest oppinion. I have tried both roms, AICP 12.1 and OmniROM and AICP is much better at battery department. But both rom is great in the rest.
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Really, well u know it is mostly how u use it. Cuz for my type of usage Omni works perfect. I was using AICP for a month before i tried other roms as described and it was really good but idk... When i was using it i got 4h and 30min at best with my kind of usage but with omni i got easily 6h. It depends from user to user but well... I will give AICP another shot anyway. I am glad that my review helped u.
insomnixXx said:
Really, well u know it is mostly how u use it. Cuz for my type of usage Omni works perfect. I was using AICP for a month before i tried other roms as described and it was really good but idk... When i was using it i got 4h and 30min at best with my kind of usage but with omni i got easily 6h. It depends from user to user but well... I will give AICP another shot anyway. I am glad that my review helped u.
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yes it helped a lot. especially kernel tweaking thing. both rom is great imho and 1-1.5 hr screen on time difference may marry -as you said- on which programs/apps we use. we must be glad that our le pro 3 has a great nougat support from these beautiful devs and i dont know how to thank to them. i just used 2-3 days this AICP rom and i will give also a shot to OmniROM to compare them again. I love both roms and i am sure i will keep switching between the two

Downclocking CPU

I am user who watches YouTube most of the time and I looked into BBS and CPU is running about 600 MHz at all 8 cores all the time when I watch videos. I guess thats a lot and it drains my battery. Is it somehow possible to set the lowest clock about 300 MHz when I am watching YouTube? Or just shutdown 4 cores at least? I guess I will need root for that. Thanks
As you can see, I was watching YT for about 4 hours and most of the time was CPU running at 653 MHz, not lower.
600 mhz is the lowest you can get with stock kernel
I believe some kernels (Extreme kernel / Project K) allow you to set it to 300 mhz
berezker said:
600 mhz is the lowest you can get with stock kernel
I believe some kernels (Extreme kernel / Project K) allow you to set it to 300 mhz
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Great! But is it still possible somehow in stock kernel? With magisk and some kernel apps like kernel adiutor?
TrueMS said:
Great! But is it still possible somehow in stock kernel? With magisk and some kernel apps like kernel adiutor?
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You need an custom kernel. However, the 300mhz is slightly too low. Making music laggy and distorted when turning off the display.
TrueMS said:
Great! But is it still possible somehow in stock kernel? With magisk and some kernel apps like kernel adiutor?
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Nope. You need a custom kernel
Most of the devs are already getting rid of OC/UC on their kernels, F.Y.I
Instead of lowering your clock speed try disabling four cores and reduce the max frequency. Set governor to conservative. If you want more power saving use powersave. Warning: performance will degrade heavily.
Edit: skipped over your mention of disabling four cores. Still it's a valid choice. I do it in extreme case.
It's not needed for our Mi A1 i think...
Somehow are there cuskernel to enable biglittle
RisjadB said:
Somehow are there cuskernel to enable biglittle
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We don't have big.LITTLE. because of 8 cores it shows two clusters of 4 cores as big and little.
alkesh95 said:
We don't have big.LITTLE. because of 8 cores it shows two clusters of 4 cores as big and little.
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What about hotplug.... Never see any core stop @Cpu-z... Rip battery
RIP battery what, the Snapdragon 625 is a very efficient chip. Most modern chips nowadays provide zero to negative impact on the battery life with active intensive core hotplugging.
This soc consumes almost nothing, not worth at all to downclock/downvolt.

[GUIDE]Make kenzo/kate a battery beast!!

Hey guys. Just wanted to share some tweaks with which you guys can get amazing battery life on your redmi note 3. I used this setup for 3 full charge cycles, and averaged about 10Hrs SOT with a 1 year old battery, when I was getting about 5-6 hrs of SOT only on normal pie/10 roms. Do give this setup a try if you want the absolute best battery, and don't mind about performance degradation a bit... The device now behaves like it's got a 5000Mah battery now. If you guys manage a better setup than this, then do share your setup down below. And please hit the thanks button if this helped you. Cheers:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:.
SETUP:
Havoc OS latest 8.1
Latest agni kernel 13.0
Spectrum profile to battery
In any kernel manager (I use fk kernel manager):
.Big cores disabled
.Little cores max clock at 1382Mhz. Min clock to 400Mhz.
.Undervolt to lowest stable value (It's different for everyone, so try out a stable value for you).
.GPU max freq to 432MHz. Min to 133Mhz.
.Adreno Idler to on.
**Guys who have the 2gb kenzo, try the mcaosp 8.0 ROM instead of havoc. It has better
RAM management for you guys.**
shivaay1234 said:
Hey guys. Just wanted to share some tweaks with which you guys can get amazing battery life on your redmi note 3. I used this setup for 3 full charge cycles, and averaged about 10Hrs SOT with a 1 year old battery, when I was getting about 5-6 hrs of SOT only on normal pie/10 roms. Do give this setup a try if you want the absolute best battery, and don't mind about performance degradation a bit... The device now behaves like it's got a 5000Mah battery now. If you guys manage a better setup than this, then do share your setup down below. And please hit the thanks button if this helped you. Cheers:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:.
SETUP:
Havoc OS latest 8.1
Latest agni kernel 13.0
Spectrum profile to battery
In any kernel manager (I use fk kernel manager):
.Big cores disabled
.Little cores max clock at 1382Mhz. Min clock to 400Mhz.
.Undervolt to lowest stable value (It's different for everyone, so try out a stable value for you).
.GPU max freq to 432MHz. Min to 133Mhz.
.Adreno Idler to on.
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Lol why u disabling cores. If u fantasize about 5000mah battery then buy redmi 8. Most of the kenzo users gone to android 10.
Black_Stark said:
Lol why u disabling cores. If u fantasize about 5000mah battery then buy redmi 8. Most of the kenzo users gone to android 10.
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You don't like it don't use it. Don't criticize him for giving his opinion. You're talking as if he's forced you to disable your phones cores.
By the way, I'll try out the setup. Thanks for posting it for all kenzo users.
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@shivaay1234, Good tutorial - thank you! Could you please share your undervolting preferences?
wxtester said:
@shivaay1234, Good tutorial - thank you! Could you please share your undervolting preferences?
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Glad you liked it mate. I'll tell you my undervolting values, but it's different for everyone, so, do experiment.
400 and 695 mhz with 710mv
806mhz 745mv
1017mhz 825mv
1190mhz 880mv
1305mhz 915mv
1382mhz 935mv
shivaay1234 said:
Glad you liked it mate. I'll tell you my undervolting values, but it's different for everyone, so, do experiment.
400 and 695 mhz with 710mv
806mhz 745mv
1017mhz 825mv
1190mhz 880mv
1305mhz 915mv
1382mhz 935mv
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Thanks a lot mate. You're setup is giving me close to 12hrs of sot, which is insane. I still can't believe it. Thanks man.
i will try, i dont care about android 10
rickymanx said:
i will try, i dont care about android 10
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Lol. Same here mate.
shivaay1234 said:
Hey guys. Just wanted to share some tweaks with which you guys can get amazing battery life on your redmi note 3. I used this setup for 3 full charge cycles, and averaged about 10Hrs SOT with a 1 year old battery, when I was getting about 5-6 hrs of SOT only on normal pie/10 roms. Do give this setup a try if you want the absolute best battery, and don't mind about performance degradation a bit... The device now behaves like it's got a 5000Mah battery now. If you guys manage a better setup than this, then do share your setup down below. And please hit the thanks button if this helped you. Cheers:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:.
SETUP:
Havoc OS latest 8.1
Latest agni kernel 13.0
Spectrum profile to battery
In any kernel manager (I use fk kernel manager):
.Big cores disabled
.Little cores max clock at 1382Mhz. Min clock to 400Mhz.
.Undervolt to lowest stable value (It's different for everyone, so try out a stable value for you).
.GPU max freq to 432MHz. Min to 133Mhz.
.Adreno Idler to on.
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Where I should get that spectrum profile?
Divyeshj66 said:
Where I should get that spectrum profile?
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It's an app in the play store. Link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.frap129.spectrum&hl=en
If anyone wondering, you can use Kernel Aduitor to disable cores and undervolting, it's free and it is quite comprehensive.
@shivaay1234 are you the guy who made that rapid os rom?
Ehsnf said:
@shivaay1234 are you the guy who made that rapid os rom?
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Yup.
shivaay1234 said:
Yup.
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Oh cool. Bro, but why did you stop development of rapid os? I liked that ROM so much...
Divyeshj66 said:
Oh cool. Bro, but why did you stop development of rapid os? I liked that ROM so much...
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When Q sources become stable, I will release the Q version of the ROM.
I used to disable the big cores as well on a per-app basis. For light usage like listening to music or reading ebooks, downloading stuff in the background etc it used to yield tangible improvements in battery life. Also while charging to keep battery temp. in check. Now I have Tasker automate it all.
Funnily enough in Redmi Note 3 with only the little cores active device didn't feel much slower but in my Poco F1 whose little cores are much faster (higher IPC, 25% higher clock speeds) it would feel a little laggy with big cores disabled.
Its better to undervolt only the higher frequencies and leave alone/reduce only a little the lower ones as they are much closer to the threshold voltage and more likely to cause a forced reboot if undervolted too much.
@amn1987 Thanks for bumping this thread dude, i really needed to improve my SOT. Hopefully this will help.
PRemBh0i said:
@amn1987 Thanks for bumping this thread dude, i really needed to improve my SOT. Hopefully this will help.
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Bear in mind the performance degradation can be quite noticeable. Instead of completely disabling the big cores maybe experiment with clocking them lower at 1-1.2GHz where they are most efficient in terms of perf./W IIRC. At these low clocks they will still completely outperform the little cores due to nearly 80% higher performance per clock.
SHADOW Kernel by @energyspear17
Already have QUAD core and battery mode.
You can also UV while flashing
Which would result in better battery backup.
Anyways different peoples different choices.
Good works?

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