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Can someone please suggest an overclocking range for use with setcpu? Id like to gain some extra performance and dont mind a higher battery drain,but I am concerned about going too high and cooking the tablet
Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks!
i believe you need a custom kernel or ROM to overclock; SetCPU will definitely let you underclock just rooted.
Once you have a kernel w/ OC enabled, I'd suggest starting with 1400MHz, then load a cpu-intensive game & play for 30mins or so. If SetCPU doesn't show the temps going north of, say, 110F/43C, increase the max speed by 100, repeat until temps get past your comfort zone, then drop back to the prior setting.
I was unable to find a max suggested temp range for Tegra2, so you may want to err on the side of safety and/or comfort and aim for a lower max temp.
As stated above you need a custom kernel to overclock, but it isn't rom related at all. I have been running mine sense i was able to load a custom kernel at max freq 1,504 Ghz and min 216 Mhz and have never had a problem at all. Using setcpu you can set profiles to save battery life, like screen off profiles and also use different governors to help battery life. I usually just leave my governor set to ondemand and can't complain about battery life or over heating.
thank you to you both! Much appreciated
Please share
1. your favorite governor (do you use any different governor on different profiles?)
2. your voltage parameters
3. Your benchmark using quadrant
Thanks
No one wants to play?
Maybe like me, they have no idea what you are talking about
What is a governor?
What voltage do you mean?
My quadrant score is 3900 ish
Thanks for the reply, I don't think I'm good enough to explain but, in a nutshell,
A governor is a a piece of code in the kernel that decides on the cpu speed. each kernel has multiple governors
voltage is where you can decide what voltage is delivered to your cpu at certain frequency. undervoltage will usually help you save battery. we have to pay attention not to go too low or it phone will freeze
download setcpu it will all become clearer
I will give this another bump before letting it die
Even I would be intrested in sharing this
currently I am using CF root with ondemand and its working all good
FM kernel with interactive. I find my phone snappier with this governor. I liked it the most with smartassv2 on Abysssomething (don't remember now) kernel, but too many teething problems with this one, had to revert to FM. I'll give it another shot soon though.
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FM kernel with interactive. I find my phone snappier with this governor. I liked it the most with smartassv2 on Abysssomething (don't remember now) kernel, but too many teething problems with this one, had to revert to FM. I'll give it another shot soon though.
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Do you use any additional profiles with Interactive?
Nope, I like the way it is.
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Nope, I like the way it is.
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Have you tried InteractiveX? Or, better yet, know the differences between the two? I am currently using smartassv2, FM kernel and have no complaints but would be interested if there was something a bit snappier when opening an app (I still get a bit of lag if I quickly select an app after unlocking the phone).
Yes, I've tried InteractiveX and OndemandX - they're both absolute rubbish (at least from my point of view). Both responsiveness and benchmark results were dismal (2800-3300 quadrant advanced). These are governors for anally retentive battery life lovers. Nothing wrong with that itself but beats the purpose when buying state of the art top shelf performance smartphone IMO.
Good to know. I appreciate the advice. Does that mean you also tried smartassv2 with the FM kernel? Any discernible difference between that and interactive, if you have? And sorry for all the questions but it saves me the trouble of trying them!
I just flashed the 1.3 FM a moment ago. Now running 100-1704 smartassv2, haven't played with voltages yet. Responsiveness in terms of screen scolling, lags & stutters seems better than 200-1400 interactive. Performance in Quadrant Advanced and Nenamark2 seems a tiny bit worse (but I don't really care about that, I use benchmarks only to roughly estimate, smoothness is what I'm after). I can't give you direct sources because I don't remember, but having spent several hours digging last weekend I concluded that for people who put performance slighly over battery life governors to be considered are interactive, smartass(v2), savagedzed and performance. Funny enough - I'm getting consistently worse benchmarks on performance governor on all kernels. I wonder why?
Thanks again. I will play around with some of the governors and settings to find the right fit. I think I will try savagedzen next but I am pretty happy with smartassv2 and may just stick with it.
Handy explanation of most of the governor options available in custom Note kernels: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
AND
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242323
Smartassv2 and vr. After reading a bit about it they seem to be the best for performance and balanced battery life.
i share with you my SetCPU config, voltage ...
it's very stable for me. It's not performance oriented but battery friendly.
what you think ?
EDIT : I use AbyssNote Kernel 1.2
I'm getting nice results here on FM Kernel 1.3. 1704mHz (1375mV) - 100mHz (775mV), lulzactive governor. 5000-5872 in Quadrant advanced, 32-35 in Nenamark2. Battery life good with low to med usage, poor when playing games, running satnav etc. - hardly a surprise We'll see about stability but so far so good.
This thread is finally picking off ! thank you all
I am currently on FM 1.3 and preferring lulzactive
I don't use any over clocking I guess I don't dare. is it safe?
I think i'm pretty aggressive with under voltage i'm running 1175mv at 1400mhz and 775mv at 200mhz. For some reason my phone freezes any time I use the 100mhz no matter the voltage .
Can you share the whole voltage for a comparison ?
with all this I can hardly get a full day of use with my battery but I guess I'm a pretty heavy on usage. no gaming or anything extensive but wifi-browsing-emails-3g-bluetooth all day
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For some reason my phone freezes any time I use the 100mhz no matter the voltage .
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I read on some other kernel thread that Samsung's implementation of the 100mhz step is incomplete/buggy. That's probably why it doesn't work properly.
Well I am sticking to one Rom and that's Crisekelo's like in my good 'n old sgs froyo times, but I like to test various kernels, when I have time...
Anyway I never saw a Mod Kernel with so many governors as the AbyssNote kernel, which I am testing right now..
Since there are many users out there that unlike me, already own the GNote for a long time and are way more experienced than me with this particular Kernel, I decided to start this Poll-thread so users can vote on their favorite governor and prehaps elaborate a little about it..
Thanks in advance..
Since Abyss Kernel is not working for my Note (overheat), I' at FM kernel with SavagedZen governor and vr I/0 Scheduler, butter smooth and stable, goes to deep sleep as it supposed to, sharp performance and moderate battery life. I know you prefer Abyss but just wanna let you know how the other kernel is working.
When I was on Abyss I was using abyssplug governor with and without undervolting. Hope you can get Abyss work for you, if you manage to do it without overheat I would appreciate any info.
have fun!
Oops ... you reacted fast ! The poll was not even ready
At the moment I don't prefer any kernel ( Only the rom) and on a device such as the GNote, I have a hunch that we dont need a super-optimized kernel with tons of iterations and that's why I always keep CF-Root and Speedmod handy, but I like the dedication and availability of AbyssNote developer, so I am giving it another try...
Since I have not enough time to play with the GNote as I did with the sgs, I am hoping that the AbyssNote users will give this specific input ....
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Hi betoNL,
just give the Abyss Kernel v3.7 another try. I am really satisfied with ABYSSPLUG governor and the SIO scheduler - great balance between performance and battery life. And it is also butter smooth and stable without any overclocking indeed ;-)
To be honest: I can't understand your problem with overheating. It could have its seeds in an app with unnormal behaviour or a constant hang-up in the background. Maybe you will execute this little turnaround at the next opportunity:
1. Charge your battery to 100%
2. Use a Taskkiller and kill every open task
3. Reboot in Recovery Mode and wipe voltage & battery stats (DON'T WIPE ANYTHING ELSE, PLEASE!)
4. Reboot yours system...
Best regards
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Hi,
great poll... my vote goes to the abyssplug ;-)
Would be interesting to add users choice of the I/O scheduler.
What do you think about that little improvement?
Best regards
[bs]
As I said, I recommend AbyssPlug
I don't understand how abyssplug works. So I don't use it.
I do use lulzactive because it uses mostly my lowest frequency which drains battery the least when not stressed and highest frequency when stressed and basically ignores everything in between. It's been great.
can someone explain how abyssplug works? I've been searching, it only says modified hotplug. That doesn't tell me much.
Originally Posted by mancman
here the exact explanation on RootzWiki:
Wheatley governor
in short words this govenor is build on "ondemand" but increases the C4 state time of the CPU and doing so trying to save juice....
The known ones are really good described here one the setcpu page:
the rest is nice described here:the rest is nice described here:
lazy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1276092) - is ondemand but with an added option to stay longer on a certain frequency. This is due to the fact that some CPU's dont like too quick freq changes when sampling rate for decision making is set too low. See link for more.
lulzactive (http://tegrak2x.blogspot.com/2011/11...vernor-v2.html) - is basically interactive governor with added smartass bits and variable (as opposed to fixed amout) frequency scaling, based on currently occuring cpu loads. Has, like smartass, a sleep profile built-in. See link for details on exact scaling.
lagfree (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1272933) - seems to be ondemand but with a lessend tendency to ramp up to 100% but rather also use steps available in between 0-100%.
intellidemand (freely translated from http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-hac...-governor.html) - behaves like ondemand when the system is under heavy use, it behaves differently when the system is mostly ideling. That mode is colled "browsing mode" or "browser mode" or whatever. It seems to be some sort of "intelligent" demand sensing/analysing ondemand governor.
smartassV2 - this one should be known. It's the same as smartass(V1) but tweaked. Same code author. I heard one should use smartassV2 instead of smartass when available.
ondemandx - is ondemand with an added sleep profile built-in. I believe all ...X kernels are the default kernels but with an added sleep profile.
AbyssPlug Governor:
Abyssplug governor is a modified hotplug governor
>>Hotplug Governor:
The "hotplug" governor scales CPU frequency based on load, similar to
"ondemand". It scales up to the highest frequency when "up_threshold"
is crossed and scales down one frequency at a time when "down_threshold"
is crossed. Unlike those governors, target frequencies are determined
by directly accessing the CPUfreq frequency table, instead of taking
some percentage of maximum available frequency.
The key difference in the "hotplug" governor is that it will disable
auxillary CPUs when the system is very idle, and enable them again once
the system becomes busy. This is achieved by averaging load over
multiple sampling periods; if CPUs were online or offlined based on a
single sampling period then thrashing will occur.
Sysfs entries exist for "hotplug_in_sampling_periods" and for
"hotplug_out_sampling_periods" which determine how many consecutive
periods get averaged to determine if auxillery CPUs should be onlined or
offlined. Defaults are 5 periods and 20 periods respectively.
Otherwise the standard sysfs entries you might find for "ondemand" and
"conservative" governors are there.
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After goin thru this thread I tried the AbyssPlug governor.
And indeed its good so far.
Me likes!!!!!!!!!
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My choice is lulzactive.
Most important things for me are smoothness, fast wake&unlock and gaming performance. I don't care about the battery life that much so it seems a perfect choice for me.
pjm77 said:
My choice is lulzactive.
Most important things for me are smoothness, fast wake&unlock and gaming performance. I don't care about the battery life that much so it seems a perfect choice for me.
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I like lulzactive, too!
What, no smartassv2 love here ? I found it at least as good as lulzactive for my usage.
My priorities - Fast response after sleep, smoothness, battery.
My governor choices on top were : SmartAssV2 (Currently using), AbyssPlus (Used it, liked it, later will compare to SmartAssV2) and Lulzactive (which is pretty good as well).
betoNL said:
Originally Posted by mancman
here the exact explanation on RootzWiki:
Wheatley governor
in short words this govenor is build on "ondemand" but increases the C4 state time of the CPU and doing so trying to save juice....
The known ones are really good described here one the setcpu page:
the rest is nice described here:the rest is nice described here:
lazy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1276092) - is ondemand but with an added option to stay longer on a certain frequency. This is due to the fact that some CPU's dont like too quick freq changes when sampling rate for decision making is set too low. See link for more.
lulzactive (http://tegrak2x.blogspot.com/2011/11...vernor-v2.html) - is basically interactive governor with added smartass bits and variable (as opposed to fixed amout) frequency scaling, based on currently occuring cpu loads. Has, like smartass, a sleep profile built-in. See link for details on exact scaling.
lagfree (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1272933) - seems to be ondemand but with a lessend tendency to ramp up to 100% but rather also use steps available in between 0-100%.
intellidemand (freely translated from http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-hac...-governor.html) - behaves like ondemand when the system is under heavy use, it behaves differently when the system is mostly ideling. That mode is colled "browsing mode" or "browser mode" or whatever. It seems to be some sort of "intelligent" demand sensing/analysing ondemand governor.
smartassV2 - this one should be known. It's the same as smartass(V1) but tweaked. Same code author. I heard one should use smartassV2 instead of smartass when available.
ondemandx - is ondemand with an added sleep profile built-in. I believe all ...X kernels are the default kernels but with an added sleep profile.
AbyssPlug Governor:
Abyssplug governor is a modified hotplug governor
>>Hotplug Governor:
The "hotplug" governor scales CPU frequency based on load, similar to
"ondemand". It scales up to the highest frequency when "up_threshold"
is crossed and scales down one frequency at a time when "down_threshold"
is crossed. Unlike those governors, target frequencies are determined
by directly accessing the CPUfreq frequency table, instead of taking
some percentage of maximum available frequency.
The key difference in the "hotplug" governor is that it will disable
auxillary CPUs when the system is very idle, and enable them again once
the system becomes busy. This is achieved by averaging load over
multiple sampling periods; if CPUs were online or offlined based on a
single sampling period then thrashing will occur.
Sysfs entries exist for "hotplug_in_sampling_periods" and for
"hotplug_out_sampling_periods" which determine how many consecutive
periods get averaged to determine if auxillery CPUs should be onlined or
offlined. Defaults are 5 periods and 20 periods respectively.
Otherwise the standard sysfs entries you might find for "ondemand" and
"conservative" governors are there.
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Again, it's just a modified hotplug. What's modified about it?
betoNL said:
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guess I was in chatty mood
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To be honest: I can't understand your problem with overheating. It could have its seeds in an app with unnormal behaviour or a constant hang-up in the background. Maybe you will execute this little turnaround at the next opportunity:
1. Charge your battery to 100%
2. Use a Taskkiller and kill every open task
3. Reboot in Recovery Mode and wipe voltage & battery stats (DON'T WIPE ANYTHING ELSE, PLEASE!)
4. Reboot yours system...
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Believe me I don't get it either and I'm pretty upset I can't use that kernel which is so valued by other android users. I was trying your advice and any other I could find in Abyss Kernel thread, nothing works for me. What is really funny I don't have any problems on other kernels. Well maybe I'm just unlucky this way. I'm thinking about getting my Note to Samsung for screen display exchange, so maybe they can do something about overheating too, maybe it's hardware related.
Thank you for your interest and advice
anyone using the app 2nd core and turning on dynamic hotplug?
It rly helps the battery
Might be useless to use along side abyssplug tho since it does the same thing
I use lulzactive, don't care about a little more battery drain
I use too 500mhz minimum speed @ 800mv, with it is pretty strange because 100 and 200 are not stable at that voltage and need 825, so having more speed I use less battery.
You don't use less battery because it's not only determined by voltage. Frequency us also a factor in power consumption, so 100MHz at 825 uses less battery for sure.
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You don't use less battery because it's not only determined by voltage. Frequency us also a factor in power consumption, so 100MHz at 825 uses less battery for sure.
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There's a post here somewhere here in the gnote forum that shows a study where they explain how 50 and 100MHz do consume more battery cause the CPU gets more stressed and takes longer to perform the task that would take less time and effort to accomplish at a higher frequency (or something like that)
Actually a higher frequency @ same voltage as a lower frequency would consume LESS battery because it will complete the task faster.
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With my setup only ondemand really worked well, my second core scaling is always set to 2 cores enabled and I have a landscape setting for ADWex and any other governor will give me like 10-15fps when opening the app drawer.
Abyssplug fits my needs: I don't need so much power (no playstation-like games) but I use phone h24, from music to calls, from surfing to calendar/alarm...quite all stuff by BT headset and voice command. Battery drains slower than expected, my Note stays alive 'till night
Hello Everyone.
As we know that CPU Governors are the ones that tell the CPU to do what in what situation and are largely responsible for battery and performance. Applying different governors can save battery or enhance performance depending on the type of governor.
There are a lot of governors available. The traditional like interactive, ondemand, powersave etc. and custom made like smartass v1 and v2, ondemand+, inteliactive etc.
This thread is meant for all of us to try different governors for approximately a day and then report the battery stats and performance levels . I could have done this alone using different governors each day and finally reporting all of the stats. But dude, haven’t you seen Hackers? All of us together can do it better and faster and cover a larger range.
So as I said the plan is that people try different governors and report and then we make a final report.
The number of governors you can test depends on the number of governors you have in your kernel . No seriously, more the number of kernels you use, more the governors you can test since different kernels have different governors. (many kernels are available in the xda Original Android Development thread)
I use Linaro(Insanity) kernel ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/orig-development/kernel-falcon-t2868126 ) that has 14 custom governors along with the 5 traditional governors out of which I will test intelliactive, intellidemand, ondemand+, lionheart, hyper, adaptive, abyssplugv2 and wheatley along with interactive, ondemand, powersave, performance and users
You can also test the governors I do or someone else does as it will help in crosschecking.
It will be very helpful if someone can test other popular governors like smartass v1 and v2, min max, scary, lagfree etc. (more the better)
The most important thing...What to post?
1) Battery Stats...use the app Battery Stats Plus and the inbuilt battery stats shower to know the stats. (dont forget to reset the battery stats when starting a new stats)
2) Overall speed of phone.....like time taken when switching apps or opening recent tasks.
3) CPU Stats....You can check these from TricksterMod in the'info' menu. (Don't forget to check the "warp counters" when starting a new test)
Please follow these few rules while testing (these are no hard and fast rules but try to follow them)
1) Keep the phone usage and settings same during all the tests
2) Keep the screen brightness as minimum as possible
3) Don’t use batter saving or performance enhancing apps.
4) Test for atleast a day.
Recommended app for kernel tweaking and viewing the performance – Trickster Mod Kernel Settings. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bigeyes0x0.trickstermod&hl=en
Yup…try to follow these and we are cool.
I am posting this thread for the sole reason that we can know how our phone reacts to different governors and to know the clear cut stats so that we can use different governors as desired.
I know it will be irritating to use a sluggish Governor for a whole day but please bear with it for 24 hours..
For newbies like me..be ready to see somewhat a big difference.
I hope that everybody participtes. :fingers-crossed:
Posting starts tomorrow.
Tommorow i will test intelliactive.
ondemand, change down_differential to 70 .. this slows down the 'race to zero' effect of the governor.. setting can be changed easily with an app like trickster, the default setting on kitkat is 10
this will smooth stuff right out, especially games and general scrolling.. unfortunately will eat battery a bit
try a simple game like original temple run to see the difference before and after
meangreenie said:
ondemand, change down_differential to 70 .. this slows down the 'race to zero' effect of the governor.. setting can be changed easily with an app like trickster, the default setting on kitkat is 10
this will smooth stuff right out, especially games and general scrolling.. unfortunately will eat battery a bit
try a simple game like original temple run to see the difference before and after
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Yes, I am a noob...
'change down_differential to 70 .. this slows down the 'race to zero' effect of the governor.. '
Whaaaat?
Meuuks13 said:
Yes, I am a noob...
'change down_differential to 70 .. this slows down the 'race to zero' effect of the governor.. '
Whaaaat?
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basically it makes the cpu governor wait longer when cpu usage is lower before clocking down the cpu.. remember this happens in milli seconds.. sometimes jumping/jerking/lagging in a game can be because the cpu is constantly being down and up clocked.
meangreenie said:
basically it makes the cpu governor wait longer when cpu usage is lower before clocking down the cpu.. remember this happens in milli seconds.. sometimes jumping/jerking/lagging in a game can be because the cpu is constantly being down and up clocked.
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Oh..I got it..I appreciate your effort but here we are looking for exact battery and CPU stats
Guys, i need your opinions -
How do u think - what is the best CPU governor for maximum battery life ?
The possibilities are in the poll.
Keep in mind, that different cpu governors have different modes, so it will be advisable not only to vote for your favourite, but also to mention in the topic your prefered profile for the respective governor...
The mods for the poll are taken from arter97kernel...
that's how I use when I need that the battery lasts longer and gives me results.
sometimes even put the processor speed to 1000MHz .
It gets a little slow but it can handle
I forgot screen cpu but I have at 1400MHz and undervolt light
Hey ^^
well i prefer zzmoove with the zzmoove battery yank profile on Boeffla kernel 2.8 for Slimkat (check my Profile for more Infos: Link). It runs smooth, gives me more then enough Performance and also good Battery Saving. It also features a frequency lock when turning off the Screen and limits the max Freq to 600 mhz which is perfect if you want to run downloads or something similar without problems in the background and your screen is off, but also gives you good powersaving. Unfortunately if you hear Music it can stutter in zzmoove because of the Hotplugging functionality even when the screen is off. To solve this problem you have to turn off the Hotplugging Functionality at Screen off (i read that somewhere, but forgot where).
greetings kaz
gsms said:
Guys, i need your opinions -
How do u think - what is the best CPU governor for maximum battery life ?
The possibilities are in the poll.
Keep in mind, that different cpu governors have different modes, so it will be advisable not only to vote for your favourite, but also to mention in the topic your prefered profile for the respective governor...
The mods for the poll are taken from arter97kernel...
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I use S5 Sensation in my I9300 and the battery life is the better I have in my phone. The governor used by default is pegasusq.