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Anyone knows when it will happen? Craving for faster picture saving and lower touch latency (having touch issues when pulling down notification Bare from lock screen)
Damn, they are taking their sweet time with the update... Typical Android... sloooow updates, unlike stock Android and ios meanwhile the Xperia X will get the 7.1.2 update in the coming week, according to Android police....
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Damn, they are taking their sweet time with the update... Typical Android... sloooow updates, unlike stock Android and ios meanwhile the Xperia X will get the 7.1.2 update in the coming week, according to Android police....
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Meanwhile, over here in XDA's development channel, you can see 4 ROMs based off 7.1.
While not "official", it's something to consider.
I have the touch latency issue with the pull down bar on lockscreen, so this is firmware related?
I wonder if the update will fix the bluetooth track info and track control issues.
Why are we working on android Oreo? Should we try to perfect Nougat first. I see this so much with other devices, instead of having a few perfect roms you have a ton of half baked ones.
I'm running this device on Oreo and it works perfectly well for my needs. Its not my day to day tablet, but as a backup tablet, its there when I need it and does what I need it to. Why wouldn't they work on Oreo? There's no such thing as a perfect rom and nobody is ever going to make one due to limitations in hardware and open source drivers etc....
Personally, I'm happy that they have brought the latest incarnation of Android to this device and look forward to watching it improve with each new release.
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I'm running this device on Oreo and it works perfectly well for my needs. Its not my day to day tablet, but as a backup tablet, its there when I need it and does what I need it to. Why wouldn't they work on Oreo? There's no such thing as a perfect rom and nobody is ever going to make one due to limitations in hardware and open source drivers etc....
Personally, I'm happy that they have brought the latest incarnation of Android to this device and look forward to watching it improve with each new release.
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>No such thing as a perfect rom
what are you talking about? Nougat on my RAZR M (just as old as the Nexus 10) runs flawlessly, and everything functions, so yes, there is such a thing as a perfect rom (or at least one with minimal bugs)
Most all roms have all functions on my ancient OG Nexus 7 (albeit a bit slow)
>Running oreo
HW video playback doesn't work, so no youtube app or netflix
Camera is still broken (some people need it for conference calls and hangouts chats)
--flash is broken too (you usually don't need it, but for those few situations you do, this is quite annoying)
Bluetooth wifi bug persists (turning on bluetooth and connecting a device makes wifi slow down and then disconnect)
My point is that we shouldn't just ditch/give up on fixing old bugs just to pursue a newer version of android. I'd rather run stable and fast Nougat than a half baked Oreo or Nougat build any day.
I know development is hard (my build set up errors out like no other) but that is just the reason we need to fix these things before wasting our time on something that will be harder to fix.
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>No such thing as a perfect rom
what are you talking about? Nougat on my RAZR M (just as old as the Nexus 10) runs flawlessly, and everything functions, so yes, there is such a thing as a perfect rom (or at least one with minimal bugs)
Most all roms have all functions on my ancient OG Nexus 7 (albeit a bit slow)
>Running oreo
HW video playback doesn't work, so no youtube app or netflix
Camera is still broken (some people need it for conference calls and hangouts chats)
--flash is broken too (you usually don't need it, but for those few situations you do, this is quite annoying)
Bluetooth wifi bug persists (turning on bluetooth and connecting a device makes wifi slow down and then disconnect)
My point is that we shouldn't just ditch/give up on fixing old bugs just to pursue a newer version of android. I'd rather run stable and fast Nougat than a half baked Oreo or Nougat build any day.
I know development is hard (my build set up errors out like no other) but that is just the reason we need to fix these things before wasting our time on something that will be harder to fix.
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If you know how to fix the issues on Nougat, nobody will stop you.
The Devs. which are still supporting the N10 said that they are not specialists for the open issues like camera, so they can't fix it. We should be happy that they try to make the best rom which they are capable and motivated for Nougat/Oreo etc.
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If you know how to fix the issues on Nougat, nobody will stop you.
The Devs. which are still supporting the N10 said that they are not specialists for the open issues like camera, so they can't fix it. We should be happy that they try to make the best rom which they are capable and motivated for Nougat/Oreo etc.
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>making the best rom which they are capable
they aren't though, that's my point. They are slowly moving on to building oreo instead of trying to fix nougat which would both be easier and more beneficial to the community.
>If you know how to fix the issues on Nougat, nobody will stop you
I obviously don't (not that I'm not trying to), and part of my point is that the people who are the most competent (not competent, just the most competent, if you know what I mean) would get on the camera fix choo choo train, we could probably have a fix sooner rather than never.
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>making the best rom which they are capable
they aren't though, that's my point. They are slowly moving on to building oreo instead of trying to fix nougat which would both be easier and more beneficial to the community.
>If you know how to fix the issues on Nougat, nobody will stop you
I obviously don't (not that I'm not trying to), and part of my point is that the people who are the most competent (not competent, just the most competent, if you know what I mean) would get on the camera fix choo choo train, we could probably have a fix sooner rather than never.
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Got your point. Nevertheless if the developers are not willing or capable doesn't matter. It's their decision and they owe us nothing. If you read the different threads each dev. said why he didn't fix e.g. camera.
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Got your point. Nevertheless if the developers are not willing or capable doesn't matter. It's their decision and they owe us nothing. If you read the different threads each dev. said why he didn't fix e.g. camera.
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link me, I have been looking for explanations on the camera for ages now. I didn't know if it was a problem with the Exynos framework for the camera or Nougat/Oreo themselves.
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link me, I have been looking for explanations on the camera for ages now. I didn't know if it was a problem with the Exynos framework for the camera or Nougat/Oreo themselves.
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Sorry my friend I will not read all posts of the last roms and why scanno, followmsi and the others are not fixing the open topics like camera, etc. That's your job. And if it is still not clear for you, you can ask the last active dev. (followmsi). he just pointed out today why he will not do so. Just read the posts around N10.
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link me, I have been looking for explanations on the camera for ages now. I didn't know if it was a problem with the Exynos framework for the camera or Nougat/Oreo themselves.
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Marshmallow is the last version of Android where everything works right on the Nexus 10. I don't have links but from everything I have seen/read, the devs can't do anything about the camera after Marshmallow. Google isn't giving the devs anything to work with anymore so stuff has to be ported or fixed by the devs alone. And I do beleive it has something to do with the hardware. But as it stands, Nougat is pretty flawless except for the camera. And Oreo is getting worked on to fix the HW Video Playback and other bugs which I'm sure they'll get fixed eventually. But most of the issues lie with the hardware. There's nothing much any dev can do about certain bugs. At this point, it's either live with the bugs or move on from the Nexus 10.
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Marshmallow is the last version of Android where everything works right on the Nexus 10. I don't have links but from everything I have seen/read, the devs can't do anything about the camera after Marshmallow. Google isn't giving the devs anything to work with anymore so stuff has to be ported or fixed by the devs alone. And I do beleive it has something to do with the hardware. But as it stands, Nougat is pretty flawless except for the camera. And Oreo is getting worked on to fix the HW Video Playback and other bugs which I'm sure they'll get fixed eventually. But most of the issues lie with the hardware. There's nothing much any dev can do about certain bugs. At this point, it's either live with the bugs or move on from the Nexus 10.
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I'll probably live with the bugs for a bit, I don't use the camera much, but when I do, its REALLY convenient. Marshmallow works great, and worst case I sell my N10 and grab a Nexus 9
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I'll probably live with the bugs for a bit, I don't use the camera much, but when I do, its REALLY convenient. Marshmallow works great, and worst case I sell my N10 and grab a Nexus 9
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Yeah, don't get a nexus 9. Oreo has the same problems (no h/w video decoding, no camera) on N9. I've pretty much given up on Android tablets (I own 4, Touchpad, N10, N9 and Amazon Fire w/ LineageOS), it looks like google has too.
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Yeah, don't get a nexus 9. Oreo has the same problems (no h/w video decoding, no camera) on N9. I've pretty much given up on Android tablets (I own 4, Touchpad, N10, N9 and Amazon Fire w/ LineageOS), it looks like google has too.
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I can't, I love android tablets. They are a blast to use, and I use them much more often than my phone. To each their own, but frankly Google can suck it if they think people will stop using tablets.
The point is thet when android 8 wil works on nexus 10 all newer androids will work to thanks to project treble.
source.android.com/devices/architecture/treble
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The point is thet when android 8 wil works on nexus 10 all newer androids will work to thanks to project treble.
source.android.com/devices/architecture/treble
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iirc project treble was only for devices shipping with oreo out of the box, and was only a requirement, i.e. you must have a compatible AOSP factory image that is compatible with other treble devices (which doesn't count the N10 as it shipped with 4.2). I'll give that link a read but I as far as I currently know it doesn't support the N10
@Galaxyninja66 to fix the camera you need to port the old api1 camera to nougat/Oreo.
The api2 camera code was removed entirely from Android, that's why the camera stopped working.
The reason nobody is working on this is because it takes a lot of time to do that and none of the active devs even use the camera
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@Galaxyninja66 to fix the camera you need to port the old api1 camera to nougat/Oreo.
The api2 camera code was removed entirely from Android, that's why the camera stopped working.
The reason nobody is working on this is because it takes a lot of time to do that and none of the active devs even use the camera
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I also noticed while poking around in the camera HAL that a TON of values were just missing entirely. I would love a working camera but frankly it doesn't seem worth the work if it means either A: porting a deprecated API or B: rebuilding an entirely new one
*sigh* and the layer of dust on top of the Nexus 10 gets a little thicker.
Everyone else is doable tho
considering what an excellent tablet the Nexus was in its brief heyday, this is all very depressing! I really hate how valuable devices can be turned into landfill so gratuitously...
Hi All,
I hope your festive season was full of joy and you're all enjoying 8.0 on our phenomenal device!
I have but one issue with the update, and that lies with Snapchat and WhatsApp (all I use, but there may be others); when recording a video with the front Cam the mic is extremely muffled. This did not happen on Nougat for me, but I did notice issues since the Open Betas.
Is anyone else experiencing this issue? Does anyone know of a fix? I'm assuming it's because the apps aren't fully optimised for Oreo just yet. As a side note, the dedicated Recorder app and Camera, all work perfectly fine.
If there are any brilliant minds who have noticed the issue and are currently working on a fix/patch, I am more than happy to test, as both of these apps are fundamental to me maintaining a good relationship ??
I am currently on xXx 9.0a with Flash kernel, but I had the issues on the OEM Rom.
Enjoy the rest of 2017, and I wish you all good health and happiness in the New Year.
All the best
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Hi All,
I hope your festive season was full of joy and you're all enjoying 8.0 on our phenomenal device!
I have but one issue with the update, and that lies with Snapchat and WhatsApp (all I use, but there may be others); when recording a video with the front Cam the mic is extremely muffled. This did not happen on Nougat for me, but I did notice issues since the Open Betas.
Is anyone else experiencing this issue? Does anyone know of a fix? I'm assuming it's because the apps aren't fully optimised for Oreo just yet. As a side note, the dedicated Recorder app and Camera, all work perfectly fine.
If there are any brilliant minds who have noticed the issue and are currently working on a fix/patch, I am more than happy to test, as both of these apps are fundamental to me maintaining a good relationship
I am currently on xXx 9.0a with Flash kernel, but I had the issues on the OEM Rom.
Enjoy the rest of 2017, and I wish you all good health and happiness in the New Year.
All the best
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I have this problem and couldn't find the fix. I even sent the phone to repair center twice with no change.
I found this link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-oneplus-one-bacon-mic-fix-t3503128 but didn't try it yet, I don't know if it works.
I must say I'm rather impressed being the X is an older phone yet it receives the new security updates rather quickly.. Just got May's update..
yes sony , for unknown reason included X on android 8 project
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I must say I'm rather impressed being the X is an older phone
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Everything is fine, welcome to Extended support cycle from Sony. Its hardware is still great, so why not update it?
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yes sony , for unknown reason included X on android 8 project
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What unknown? What? Is this device have some problems? Maybe its CPU overheats? Maybe it has bad drivers? Maybe it's running on MTK?
There's everything obvious - Xperia X is still a great device, and it SHOULD get every security update.
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Everything is fine, welcome to Extended support cycle from Sony. Its hardware is still great, so why not update it?
What unknown? What? Is this device have some problems? Maybe its CPU overheats? Maybe it has bad drivers? Maybe it's running on MTK?
There's everything obvious - Xperia X is still a great device, and it SHOULD get every security update.
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Initially X was never part of ANdroid 8 when sony released software binaries. however it was last minute include. the line was drawn at X-perf
It feels good how finally Android 8 is running stable on X however as daily driver and with burden of social apps. X starts lagging and overheats as you said! , many functions and camera don't work.
X is not MTK device
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Initially X was never part of ANdroid 8 when sony released software binaries.
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Lies. It was obvious from the start that it will get Oreo. Software binaries? Do you mean SODP ones?
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It feels good how finally Android 8 is running stable on X...
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It was running great from the start. Maybe only camera was a little worse.
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...however as daily driver and with burden of social apps. X starts lagging and overheats as you said! , many functions and camera don't work.
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That's only a problem of YOUR PERSONAL device. My X is neither lagging nor overheating even in a hot situations (tested in my bathroom with 41 gradus temperature, runs great). I don't have any problems with my X, neither all my X users I know from 4PDA. So stop telling people that Oreo is bad when YOUR device overheats and lags, please.
I suggest you to visit some local repair shops and ask them for checking your cooling system.
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Lies. It was obvious from the start that it will get Oreo. Software binaries? Do you mean SODP ones?
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personal attacks aside!
on this road map xperia X and X performance was added later, sony had cut-off taken for OREO for XZ PROJECT ONLY! however later two X devices added, A post was on xda did mention last year how Sony has announced to discontinue X and Xc when it was just on 7.0 only! back then everyone was hoping that it should get atleast 7.1, if not Oreo!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-x/how-to/futur-x-t3614147 <------check yourself
also sony added X, Xp and Xc later in 2017 for Oreo! the original cutoff was til XZ project only! X family was not part of it inicially
https://blogs.sonymobile.com/2017/08/31/xperia-android-8-0-oreo/
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It was running great from the start. Maybe only camera was a little worse.
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the Camera still cant record hd video more than 40 secons and shuts down due to heat.
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That's only a problem of YOUR PERSONAL device. My X is neither lagging nor overheating even in a hot situations (tested in my bathroom with 41 gradus temperature, runs great). I don't have any problems with my X, neither all my X users I know from 4PDA. So stop telling people that Oreo is bad when YOUR device overheats and lags, please.
I suggest you to visit some local repair shops and ask them for checking your cooling system.
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I own two Xperia X, Black and Lime, so there goes your argument.
also its not my personal opinion and as Hardware there is NOTHING wrong with Xperia X. we are talking about software part.
I have tried my Black X with Omnirom 7.1.1 and 8.1 and the same X has
1. Amazing Batter Life
2. No overheating
3. no Lagging
4. Camera works perfect and records 4K
since you are using my modded kernels and ROOT ACCESS allows you to modify Oreo by having different modes in Magisks and/or control bloatware etc.
I would suggest you to flash oreo .2.70 right-away and use untouched for one weak with all the bells ringing and we will see
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personal attacks aside!
on this road map xperia X and X performance was added later, sony had cut-off taken for OREO for XZ PROJECT ONLY! however later two X devices added, A post was on xda did mention last year how Sony has announced to discontinue X and Xc when it was just on 7.0 only! back then everyone was hoping that it should get atleast 7.1, if not Oreo!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-x/how-to/futur-x-t3614147 <------check yourself
also sony added X, Xp and Xc later in 2017 for Oreo! the original cutoff was til XZ project only! X family was not part of it inicially
https://blogs.sonymobile.com/2017/08/31/xperia-android-8-0-oreo/
the Camera still cant record hd video more than 40 secons and shuts down due to heat.
I own two Xperia X, Black and Lime, so there goes your argument.
also its not my personal opinion and as Hardware there is NOTHING wrong with Xperia X. we are talking about software part.
I have tried my Black X with Omnirom 7.1.1 and 8.1 and the same X has
1. Amazing Batter Life
2. No overheating
3. no Lagging
4. Camera works perfect and records 4K
since you are using my modded kernels and ROOT ACCESS allows you to modify Oreo by having different modes in Magisks and/or control bloatware etc.
I would suggest you to flash oreo .2.70 right-away and use untouched for one weak with all the bells ringing and we will see
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So do you mean nougat has much better battery than Oreo?
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So do you mean nougat has much better battery than Oreo?
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Due to the following features I am using Oreo (XGEN) build on .2.50
1. Better Screen Resolution/Tone ( the tint in Oreo on screen is soothing to eyes as compare to N)
2. Cleartype ScreenFonts
3. Nighlight
4. Notification settings options and panel
5. Setting Menu simplified (a bit better than Nougat)
-- however these are all UI and cosmetic affects
I was happier and relaxed on the final build .252 (came dec17) android 7.1.1. I kept switching back to .252 after trying first two Oreo builds which I found horrible in terms of battery life & overheating; and its not just me, many user reported the same on various posts (in and out of XDA forums) about how after upgrading to Oreo they are facing overheating and battery drain issues. when X overheats it starts lagging.
10April18 build .2.50 (third attempt) has been quite better than its predecessor builds but still can't compete with dec17 build .252.
REMEMBER, my comparison / observation is on ROOTED Xperia-X
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Due to the following features I am using Oreo (XGEN) build on .2.50
1. Better Screen Resolution/Tone ( the tint in Oreo on screen is soothing to eyes as compare to N)
2. Cleartype ScreenFonts
3. Nighlight
4. Notification settings options and panel
5. Setting Menu simplified (a bit better than Nougat)
-- however these are all UI and cosmetic affects
I was happier and relaxed on the final build .252 (came dec17) android 7.1.1. I kept switching back to .252 after trying first two Oreo builds which I found horrible in terms of battery life & overheating; and its not just me, many user reported the same on various posts (in and out of XDA forums) about how after upgrading to Oreo they are facing overheating and battery drain issues. when X overheats it starts lagging.
10April18 build .2.50 (third attempt) has been quite better than its predecessor builds but still can't compete with dec17 build .252.
REMEMBER, my comparison / observation is on ROOTED Xperia-X
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Yea I will for sure root all my android device so I needed some opinion on rooted device. Guess I might go back to nougat sometimes
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Yea I will for sure root all my android device so I needed some opinion on rooted device. Guess I might go back to nougat sometimes
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i feel the same! i will go back to nougat once sony discontinue supporting X
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A post was on xda did mention last year how Sony has announced to discontinue X and Xc when it was just on 7.0 only! back then everyone was hoping that it should get atleast 7.1, if not Oreo!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-x/how-to/futur-x-t3614147 <------check yourself
also sony added X, Xp and Xc later in 2017 for Oreo! the original cutoff was til XZ project only! X family was not part of it inicially
https://blogs.sonymobile.com/2017/08/31/xperia-android-8-0-oreo/
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I can't remember the original roadmap, but I can't trust XDA as well. So there you may be right.
UPD: You are wrong. It was included in the list from the start: proof, not updated. Wayback Machine link provided as well.
P.S. What a ridiculous source of the info - just a random guy.
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the Camera still cant record hd video more than 40 secons and shuts down due to heat.
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Do you need my FHD 60 FPS video recorded on X without any additional cooling systems? I can provide one.
YasuHamed said:
I own two Xperia X, Black and Lime, so there goes your argument.
also its not my personal opinion and as Hardware there is NOTHING wrong with Xperia X. we are talking about software part.
I have tried my Black X with Omnirom 7.1.1 and 8.1 and the same X has
1. Amazing Batter Life
2. No overheating
3. no Lagging
4. Camera works perfect and records 4K
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I have the same on stock Oreo, everything except the first point. OmniROM (and k4.4 in general) are more optimized.
YasuHamed said:
since you are using my modded kernels and ROOT ACCESS allows you to modify Oreo by having different modes in Magisks and/or control bloatware etc.
I would suggest you to flash oreo .2.70 right-away and use untouched for one weak with all the bells ringing and we will see
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Nice challenge!)
I'd like to accept it, but since I was already using Oreo on locked bl (before your kernel was released for 5121), I can share some thoughts. It was running stable, maybe camera was a little bit worse than I expected. No overheat (was it because of a winter?), no lags, no anything. It was a clean and stable ROM. So...
But thanks for the idea of challenge like this. I have a guy with untouched X, so maybe he will tell something there.
over-heating
Hi Guys,
My Xperia-X is replaced in this may month in warranty.
After replaced I am feeling too much overheating.
From the first day, I have an update to latest may security update.
Now I don't know this over-heating is due to may update or again I got faulty hardware by Sony.
What about you guys do you feel over-heating especially after may update?
Hey folks, heads up June update is out and about..
Hello, I've been on the fence for a very long time with getting a OnePlus device. I was finally ALMOST ready to buy the 8 pro but the curved screen kept me away. I've always stuck with the pixel and have had no problems with them besides the terrible screen restate. I really wanted to buy the 8T pro until I saw what they did to the UI in os 11. I really don't care for Samsung at all. Will OnePlus still be the ultimate stock Android ? Is the core OnePlus community happy with os 11 UI overhaul at all?
If I had known coming from a Pixel 2xl, I would have waited. Not happy with it at all.
Hardware is nice for sure, but camera software is subpar imo and poor 5ghz wifi has me puzzled still.
That said I would get a OnePlus over anything else... Maybe just not a good pixel phone.
Sent from my IN2025 using Tapatalk
I left Pixels & Samsung for the OnePlus, and have not looked back! 8Pro is an excellent ddd (daily driver device)??
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I left Pixels & Samsung for the OnePlus, and have not looked back! 8Pro is an excellent ddd (daily driver device)
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So how do you feel about the new UI ? It's so close to samsung now ?
Not concerned until I have the official stock ota on my 8pro to do hands-on!
Don't be worried about the UI. I'd people complain they'll change it, some respect the same from Samsung.
Plus with the development in XDA and the like you can rest assured that other ROMs will be available.
Bare in mind this move from OnePlus is to steal Samsung customers, they've already done that Vs the ultra, I'm one of them.
Thank God I didn't buy the ultra (ordered but it didn't come, Exynos is a turd)
Paranoid Android, carbon ROM, lineage, several Magisk ROMs,, there's even miui and Nubia lol,, don't worry about the new 11, plus things can still change, I'm sure anyone helping with the alpha and beta versions are reporting that.
I'm remaining optimistic about 11, might be alone in that but what else can I do?
At this point in time and since it's launch, there is no better phone than the 8 pro, installed a GCam app today and that's pretty much sorted the camera for me, wasn't bad to begin with
Never cared for Samsungs One UI, preferred Cyanogen/LinageOS any day on any Samsung (as long as it was a device where the correct RIL was anailavle, for obvious reasons). On all Samsungs, and OnePluses I've had I've pretty much always used Nova Launcher (as I would on any Pixel too). So, the only place where I actually notice any OEM UI:s is on the settings page... And ind the case of OP8 A11 (as I'm currently using as daily driver), I actually kind of like it. It's smooth, easy. Especially in dark mode (I always use dark mode). I'm all for it. I like the fact that OP does this instead och forcing a bunch of apps on us (Samsung-style) and weird framework changes. This is no reason to "not get a OP device" if you ask me.
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Never cared for Samsungs One UI, preferred Cyanogen/LinageOS any day on any Samsung (as long as it was a device where the correct RIL was anailavle, for obvious reasons). On all Samsungs, and OnePluses I've had I've pretty much always used Nova Launcher (as I would on any Pixel too). So, the only place where I actually notice any OEM UI:s is on the settings page... And ind the case of OP8 A11 (as I'm currently using as daily driver), I actually kind of like it. It's smooth, easy. Especially in dark mode (I always use dark mode). I'm all for it. I like the fact that OP does this instead och forcing a bunch of apps on us (Samsung-style) and weird framework changes. This is no reason to "not get a OP device" if you ask me.
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Couldn't agree more.