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GPS update ETA: "Samsung is optimizing GPS, look for updates in sept."

http://twitter.com/Samsungservice/status/21089686644
Samsung is testing software to optimize GPS on Galaxy S phones. Look for updates in September. Details & download instructions to follow.
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Awesome .. good news ....

I sort of figured that it'd roll in with the Froyo update, which is supposed to drop within the September timeframe too.

masterotaku said:
I sort of figured that it'd roll in with the Froyo update, which is supposed to drop within the September timeframe too.
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I hope so. I'm actually pretty surprised they let a device go this long with this problem. Mine works much better after some HACKS but honestly, the phones' gps should work right out of the box in my opinion. And if we get towards the end of September and the only update addressed is to fix something that was broken in the first place thats going to hurt Samsung seeing as there's been talks about September Froyo.

Great, thanks for the update! Looking forward to it!
Sent from my Rooted Samsung Vibrant using XDA App

Good stuff. Hope it comes with froyo.

Notice how they don't mention that there is a problem... "Samsung is testing software to optimize GPS on Galaxy S phones."

Sounds some what promising. Thanks for the update.

They've been very careful about how they are wording their responses on this issue. They are trying to pull an Apple, by admitting there is a problem without admitting there is a problem.
I certainly hope it gets fixed as it is really aggravating. Tried using the GPS today with Flixster and all I got was a black screen for my efforts (had to pull the battery to turn it back on).

Just turn off GPS and use network-based location for the time being. It's worded perfectly, but it does promise an update. It's no different from what other manufactures do. "an update to improve functionality" and etc.

I haven't heard of anyone's GPS completely not working, so you could call it optimizing. My Vibrant has the same issues as everyone else it seems, the issue is still on my old Mytouch and my friends Droid. So I would personally call it optimizing and not fixing.
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Is that gps freezing common? Most reports I've seen have just been lock and accuracy issues. Mine is slow to lock and doesn't have the best accuracy (25-40 feet), but doesn't freeze the phone.
Sent from my SGS Vibrant

tissimo said:
Is that gps freezing common? Most reports I've seen have just been lock and accuracy issues. Mine is slow to lock and doesn't have the best accuracy (25-40 feet), but doesn't freeze the phone.
Sent from my SGS Vibrant
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Today was the first time I encountered this issue, although it has been mentioned on this forum as well as others. Doesn't seem to be widespread, but it certainly is annoying.
Heygirl,
Forever the optimist Disabling a major feature of the phone is a poor workaround for a problem that really should never had made it past whatever QC Samsung has. Darn shame as this really is a good phone. It will be a great one once this issue if fixed.

tweak89 said:
Today was the first time I encountered this issue, although it has been mentioned on this forum as well as others. Doesn't seem to be widespread, but it certainly is annoying.
Heygirl,
Forever the optimist Disabling a major feature of the phone is a poor workaround for a problem that really should never had made it past whatever QC Samsung has. Darn shame as this really is a good phone. It will be a great one once this issue if fixed.
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What do you want from me or anyone else? A fix that doesn't exist yet? I said to avoid the GPS and likely, it's driver from crashing the entire phone - to DISABLE it and this goes for anyone else having the same issue but not knowing the cause. If you have a problem with that, you can finish this sentence yourself.

Well this is what we all were waiting for. Of course people are still going to *****, but we shouldn't care. This phone is clearly the best investment you can make in terms of a phone, let's celebrate.
Now that this issue is addressed I hope their sales increase and development increases for these trail blazing phones.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

zoid_99 said:
Notice how they don't mention that there is a problem... "Samsung is testing software to optimize GPS on Galaxy S phones."
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Typical corporate spin...just the iPhone 4 fiasco. Companies don't want to be legally liable by admitting fault.

heygrl said:
What do you want from me or anyone else? A fix that doesn't exist yet? I said to avoid the GPS and likely, it's driver from crashing the entire phone - to DISABLE it and this goes for anyone else having the same issue but not knowing the cause. If you have a problem with that, you can finish this sentence yourself.
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Wow,sensitive much? Not sure where I asked you or anyone else for anything (expecting a company to back their product and make it right isn't too much to ask, though). You gave me some advice and I commented. You seem to be taking it as a personal attack. Oh well.
Mark271 said:
Well this is what we all were waiting for. Of course people are still going to *****, but we shouldn't care. This phone is clearly the best investment you can make in terms of a phone, let's celebrate.
Now that this issue is addressed I hope their sales increase and development increases for these trail blazing phones.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
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Now that's optimism!! When the patch is being downloaded on my phone and the GPS is working properly, then I will celebrate, you can be sure of that

tweak89 said:
They've been very careful about how they are wording their responses on this issue. They are trying to pull an Apple, by admitting there is a problem without admitting there is a problem.
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Actually, Apple would say "Our problem is inherent in all phones of this type, if you don't like it, simply return the phone and move on"

Now, all they have to do is bundle it up with froyo and it's all good!

j0hnZ said:
I haven't heard of anyone's GPS completely not working, so you could call it optimizing. My Vibrant has the same issues as everyone else it seems, the issue is still on my old Mytouch and my friends Droid. So I would personally call it optimizing and not fixing.
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I have 4 of these phones in my family and not a single one works GPS wise. None of them will lock on to any of the GPS sats here in Kansas. Occasionally there will be a blip on one of the satellites to 15 - 18 dbHz, but then it'll return to 0.

[Q] Should I buy New Nexus 7 right now or wait for another set of fresh models?

Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.

nsnarayan10 said:
Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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As someone who just returned his 3rd with dead pixels, my only recommendation is to buy from a place that you know will let you return it.
It seems to be a random **** shoot, I see all these people reporting they have units that are good, and then there's me and the others in the dead pixel thread.

An update has already been released to fix the multitouch and GPS issue.

laxinchili said:
As someone who just returned his 3rd with dead pixels, my only recommendation is to buy from a place that you know will let you return it.
It seems to be a random **** shoot, I see all these people reporting they have units that are good, and then there's me and the others in the dead pixel thread.
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One of my cousin lives in India and wants me to despatch one to him from Amazon,sound bad?So you are clearly saying that I should wait until Asus releases more fresh ones in a few months,right?

Username invalid said:
An update has already been released to fix the multitouch and GPS issue.
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Does the update fix the issue?
And is it a good time to import one?

nsnarayan10 said:
Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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I would buy without any hesitations. Don't read into many complains here, they will play with your head.
(just like IF I told you that your GF is cheating on you .. would it suddenly makes her look suspicious somehow ?).
Haha.... I'm looking forward to some factory-refurbished sales down the road.
No wonder credit cards rates are so high (know what I mean..).

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Does the update fix the issue?
And is it a good time to import one?
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https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&...3.152.3.3.0...0.0...1ac.1.T66OUul4cOI&qscrl=1

nsnarayan10 said:
Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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Like you said most issues are fixable by update which are rolling out now but depends on your preference. I was thinking the same thing but waited a month. The current hardware which is what I have rev. E, seem to be issues free. Have spoke to others both 16gb and 32gb who are so far issue free under this rev so it really just depends where you buy it if they're still on the initial stock or if they've gotten new batches. I bought mine off amazon, through amazon them selves, meaning no separate sellers on amazon and got lucky with no issues but as said under rev. E, now I'm not totally sure how true that is that's what was explained to me by someone else while we are waiting for the current update, so I guess your best bet is to talk to someone who is experiencing these issues souch as multi-touch, random reboot and GPS issues. See what rev the initial stock was. Other wise like you mention you can just wait a month or so which most issues should be ironed out by then but seems as if they're getting a good handle on that so should have to wait too long if you choose to do so.

nsnarayan10 said:
Hey guys,please help me out.Since the 2013 Nexus 7 is having a lot of issues and could be solved with updates,should I still buy it or wait for fresh set of models that come with problems-free in another a couple of months?I know warranty is there and everything but still I am scared.
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In a few months I'd be looking forward to the Kindle Fire HD 2's better hardware with the Snapdragon 800 CPU.

hyperxguy said:
I would buy without any hesitations. Don't read into many complains here, they will play with your head.
(just like IF I told you that your GF is cheating on you .. would it suddenly makes her look suspicious somehow ?).
Haha.... I'm looking forward to some factory-refurbished sales down the road.
No wonder credit cards rates are so high (know what I mean..).
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I got you on that,haha.Normally refurbished models come problem-free,right?I am considering waiting for it,then.What do you think?Bcz its a question of importing one.

The thing about 'lots of issue' reports is that folks are bound to announce when they are upset, but majority or folks enjoying the products is keep enjoying it instead of complaining. So, it may seem like there are a lot of issues, but it actually isn't widespread in any way.
I got one and loved it, but I returned it. I didn't any issues. I returned it because I want the LTE version instead. So, if you want to hold out, do it if you want the LTE version (just $80 more than the 32GB wifi version), not if you're waffling about quality issues. But if you are concerned, by it from a brick & mortar store so you have a return window.

aerdely said:
Like you said most issues are fixable by update which are rolling out now but depends on your preference. I was thinking the same thing but waited a month. The current hardware which is what I have rev. E, seem to be issues free. Have spoke to others both 16gb and 32gb who are so far issue free under this rev so it really just depends where you buy it if they're still on the initial stock or if they've gotten new batches. I bought mine off amazon, through amazon them selves, meaning no separate sellers on amazon and got lucky with no issues but as said under rev. E, now I'm not totally sure how true that is that's what was explained to me by someone else while we are waiting for the current update, so I guess your best bet is to talk to someone who is experiencing these issues souch as multi-touch, random reboot and GPS issues. See what rev the initial stock was. Other wise like you mention you can just wait a month or so which most issues should be ironed out by then but seems as if they're getting a good handle on that so should have to wait too long if you choose to do so.
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I think you gave an excellent piece of info.But how do i check what rev.E that Nexus 7 is?I read that the updates arent helping everyone,but I reckon the update should do the trick.But the worry is I am importing one,so!
Oh you mean waiting for refurbished models can take longer time?

Curare said:
The thing about 'lots of issue' reports is that folks are bound to announce when they are upset, but majority or folks enjoying the products is keep enjoying it instead of complaining. So, it may seem like there are a lot of issues, but it actually isn't widespread in any way.
I got one and loved it, but I returned it. I didn't any issues. I returned it because I want the LTE version instead. So, if you want to hold out, do it if you want the LTE version (just $80 more than the 32GB wifi version), not if you're waffling about quality issues. But if you are concerned, by it from a brick & mortar store so you have a return window.
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Can you please give me the link to brick and mortar store if they provide online service?
Thank you and you made a point!

nsnarayan10 said:
I think you gave an excellent piece of info.But how do i check what rev.E that Nexus 7 is?I read that the updates arent helping everyone,but I reckon the update should do the trick.But the worry is I am importing one,so!
Oh you mean waiting for refurbished models can take longer time?
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Reboot into bootloader shutdown the hold vol down+ power, the hardware rev will be toward the bottom. As I said not sure how true that is haven't checked into this my self but would be good to know.

Don't listen to people to tell you to ignore complaints. There is a 30-something page thread about dead pixels going on since launch for a reason, and another about build quality that is huge as well.
The multitouch and GPS problems have been addresses in a (timely) update.
However, if you or your friend care about dead pixels or dust under your screen, it is something that people are indeed experiencing (again - i opened a july mfg unit yesterday and it had 2 dead pixels - my 3rd nexus with dead pixels).
I think the real question here is: If your friend opened one up in India with a dead pixel, some light bleed, some dust under screen, or any other blemish, would he be able to deal with it?

aerdely said:
Reboot into bootloader shutdown the hold vol down+ power, the hardware rev will be toward the bottom. As I said not sure how true that is haven't checked into this my self but would be good to know.
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Oh,thank you so much and its called Hardware REV?So you have faced no problem whatsoever?

nsnarayan10 said:
Oh,thank you so much and its called Hardware REV?So you have faced no problem whatsoever?
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Yes as mine say I booted into bootload and it says hardware rev. e, yours should show what its on I think like 3 lines down on the device info in bootloader mode near the bottom.

laxinchili said:
Don't listen to people to tell you to ignore complaints. There is a 30-something page thread about dead pixels going on since launch for a reason, and another about build quality that is huge as well.
The multitouch and GPS problems have been addresses in a (timely) update.
However, if you or your friend care about dead pixels or dust under your screen, it is something that people are indeed experiencing (again - i opened a july mfg unit yesterday and it had 2 dead pixels - my 3rd nexus with dead pixels).
I think the real question here is: If your friend opened one up in India with a dead pixel, some light bleed, some dust under screen, or any other blemish, would he be able to deal with it?
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You are absolutely right.If its software issues like GPS and Multi-touch,it could be solved over updates but dead pixels and light bleeding can get him helpless.So its better to wait for refurbished models?If so will they come a bit late?
But are these common issues with every phone in this intensity?

aerdely said:
Yes as mine say I booted into bootload and it says hardware rev. e, yours should show what its on I think like 3 lines down on the device info in bootloader mode near the bottom.
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Thank you so much bro and I am scared what if i encounter any hardware issues like Dead-pixels and light bleeding.And this product is getting imported and worse is it could not be accepted for return since the product is not yet launched in that imported country.

nsnarayan10 said:
You are absolutely right.If its software issues like GPS and Multi-touch,it could be solved over updates but dead pixels and light bleeding can get him helpless.So its better to wait for refurbished models?If so will they come a bit late?
But are these common issues with every phone in this intensity?
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Yes forgot about the dead pixel issue, that is true but not as all have it, its pretty much rolling the dice to see if your lucky enough to get one issue free, at least at the moment. So maybe to wait would be best or even a return but the return hasn't always proven true for me. I came from the Asus transformer which was riddled with ghost touch issues, went through 3 of them just couldn't get around it whether it was a return or not.

Bootloader Unlock Imminent - Next week?

After a big commotion, they seemed to have unveiled their surprise they were going to share next week.
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https://community.zteusa.com/thread/11498#41615
EDIT (Important): Could someone who requested an unlock please look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/to-unlock-bootloader-hold-help-t3437617/page1 . This would help develop for this phone much faster. Please do the steps mentioned before updating.

Seems pretty guaranteed actually all the CSRs were apparently misinformed and the one of the head forum CSRs is furious about this and seems like pretty much guaranteed unlock in a reply to the post above.

Yeah ! It was me who posted on zte forums .. Just wanted to nudge them a little so they can at least come clean

Thank god you did I almost cancelled my order. I posted my frustration in that thread too.

reddrago said:
After a big commotion, they seemed to have unveiled their surprise they were going to share next week.
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https_://community.zteusa.com/thread/11498#41615
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Yup I'm there too LoL, (not my usual username i have to change that).
So we hope we get some awesome news next week (fingers cross)

Can't wait for Monday now lol, hope there is still enough buzz with the device here on XDA for ROMs and not too many people jumped ship.

Sweet...
Definitely hope we get some good roms with the bootloaders unlocked.
Had my Axon 7 for a couple weeks now, live in Oz and chinese version works fine here, and it's a pretty sweet deal. Got an Antutu benchmark of almost 142000 edging out the 1+3 by a few hundred points....
My only gripe is the virtual assistant software is only available in Chinese...
If the bootloader is unlocked I should be able to change to WW firmware fixing this....

naix89 said:
Yeah ! It was me who posted on zte forums .. Just wanted to nudge them a little so they can at least come clean
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Yeah, i added a little gasoline on there as well :angel:

Awesome! With the confusion over whether Passport 2.0 applies to Newegg purchases or if it is final/replacement-only, I was starting to worry that I may be need to cancel my preorder just to be safe. But if the bootloader is going to be unlocked, frankly that seals the deal for me. As far as I can tell, the only issue left is low-light camera performance, but honestly, with all the positives for this phone it isn't a huge tradeoff.
I just hope the late notice hasn't turned off developers of custom roms and root/recovery builders.

Yea bootloader unlock deal was making me doubt this phone, I really hope devs are still attarcted to this too. A lot of the reviews on the ZTE forums say that manual mode is much better in low light so it is most likely a software bug.

ScaryBugThing said:
Awesome! With the confusion over whether Passport 2.0 applies to Newegg purchases or if it is final/replacement-only, I was starting to worry that I may be need to cancel my preorder just to be safe. But if the bootloader is going to be unlocked, frankly that seals the deal for me. As far as I can tell, the only issue left is low-light camera performance, but honestly, with all the positives for this phone it isn't a huge tradeoff.
I just hope the late notice hasn't turned off developers of custom roms and root/recovery builders.
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Also on the newegg product page under Warranty & Returns it states you can return for refund before 30 days but a restocking fee may be applied so you are probably fine if you want to try out the device but you might want to check with newegg just in case.
http_://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875705055

Wow those are great news Now just have to wait for the grey color to be available ?
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I have the chinese model, just got an update. In Chinese forums they are talking about root and bootloader regarding this update.
Am in Vietnam now and Google translate is failing, but I'm hopeful!

Where is this chinese forum? I can never find it, really want to translate some of the stuff.

aPexalpha said:
I have the chinese model, just got an update. In Chinese forums they are talking about root and bootloader regarding this update.
Am in Vietnam now and Google translate is failing, but I'm hopeful!
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Can you link the thread?

reddrago said:
Where is this chinese forum? I can never find it, really want to translate some of the stuff.
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http://www.myzte.cn/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=1037
Google translate, does a less than stellar job on it.
What's interesting about the ZTE Chinese forums is that you can download the full ROM updates, which you can also do from ztedevices.com, but you can't do any of it for US based devices.

That's the link, I think. My mate translates for me. I don't speak Chinese and their slang and technical terms aren't fit for Google translation

Hopefully it arrives by the 15th, so I'll know if I should cancel my pre-order Grey model.

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http://www.myzte.cn/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=1037
Google translate, does a less than stellar job on it.
What's interesting about the ZTE Chinese forums is that you can download the full ROM updates, which you can also do from ztedevices.com, but you can't do any of it for US based devices.
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I could not find this anywhere I must be bad at using google or something haha.

reddrago said:
I could not find this anywhere I must be bad at using google or something haha.
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I believe that this is the topic.
But nothing too constructive as far as google translate can take me... As far as i could understand, it's just someone that tought the OEM Unlock menu appeared with the last update (B07) but it was already there and does nothing (a lot of interpretation in my traduction of the garbage google gave me^^).

The glare is unbearably bad

Look at the video to see how horrible the reflection is. There's no way a Google update will fix this. I know why they told.you to wait, so that by the time an " update" comes out, the phone will be outside of the return period.
https://youtu.be/p5E-fwp0IrE

flex360 said:
Look at the video to see how horrible the reflection is. There's no way a Google update will fix this. I know why they told.you to wait, so that by the time an " update" comes out, the phone will be outside of the return period.
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Poor design, camera looks pretty far back from glass panel and you get a reflection off the lens on the glass. Maybe an anti-reflective coating would of been useful.

I guess I'll be returning it. It's unacceptable for a phone I spent 950 to have.

flex360 said:
I guess I'll be returning it. It's unacceptable for a phone I spent 950 to have.
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But the camera on the Pixel is supposed to be the best smartphone camera of all time. :laugh:

I must be lucky cause I've never gotten the glare video or pictures.

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I must be lucky cause I've never gotten the glare video or pictures.
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Me neither. Not even pointing at the sun

tigercranestyle said:
me neither. i've tried my best to replicate the problem, but nada.
never mind that though. this is a big ol' conspiracy for google to get us outside of our return dates!!1one! definitely plausible. :laugh: seriously, android already has a couple of blackeyes from yesterday's chinese malware report and samsung's note 7 gaff. again, never mind that. google wants to further stain android's image by conspiring to get us past our return dates. this is true folks.
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Well if Google sold us defective products I'm sure they would have to replace

It's definitely a weird issue indeed. I literally try to force this to happen every time I read about it and have not been able to yet. Not saying it doesn't exist though, just that I've never seen it. I've had the phone for a couple weeks now.

A software update can help fix this. I haven't had the issue myself. But I had an old point and shoot that had this issue and a firmware update corrected the issue.
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sdelcegno said:
A software update can help fix this. I haven't had the issue myself. But I had an old point and shoot that had this issue and a firmware update corrected the issue.
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A software update isn't going to fix a damn thing in video mode - Google themselves have said this.

Are Google going to release a revised version of device?

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Are Google going to release a revised version of device?
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That would be ideal. My guess is they may "silently" implement is as a hardware revision for new phones. Only time will tell.

Bootloop issue on Nexus 6P

There was an article today on xda that talked about a class action lawsuit against LG because multiple phones they make are going into a boot loop of death--sound familiar? The problem is defective solder that can't withstand the heat the phone generates and, over time, separates a connection to the motherboard. The problem with the 6P is almost certainly the exact same. That means there is likely nothing a 6P owner can ultimately do to prevent the boot loop of death from eventually happening to their phone. The simple act of charging the phone with the quick charge function makes the phone quite warm. On top of that (for those on stock) since the January OTA Google has been defaulting the stock kernel settings to those for high performance, which not only is causing battery drain that some users have been complaining about but also makes the phones run much warmer. This means the 6P will likely die even faster.
For some of us this was a 600-700 phone purchased new and (mine is a 128gig model) and for that money, it's not unreasonable to expect a phone to last for longer than 12-18 months, which is probably going to turn out to be the ultimate lifespan for these things.
I'm curious if anybody else has any thoughts on this situation. To my mind, both Google and Huawei knew that these phones were defective and should have recalled them. Instead, they are riding out the warranty and when the phone inevitably breaks telling owners that they are SOL.
Does anyone think it would be worthwhile for Nexus 6P owners to file a class action lawsuit against Google and Huawei or do you think it would be a waste of time? Are you OK buying a supposedly premium phone that likely won't last a full two years?

jhs39 said:
There was an article today on xda that talked about a class action lawsuit against LG because multiple phones they make are going into a boot loop of death--sound familiar? The problem is defective solder that can't withstand the heat the phone generates and, over time, separates a connection to the motherboard. The problem with the 6P is almost certainly the exact same. That means there is likely nothing a 6P owner can ultimately do to prevent the boot loop of death from eventually happening to their phone. The simple act of charging the phone with the quick charge function makes the phone quite warm. On top of that (for those on stock) since the January OTA Google has been defaulting the stock kernel settings to those for high performance, which not only is causing battery drain that some users have been complaining about but also makes the phones run much warmer. This means the 6P will likely die even faster.
For some of us this was a 600-700 phone purchased new and (mine is a 128gig model) and for that money, it's not unreasonable to expect a phone to last for longer than 12-18 months, which is probably going to turn out to be the ultimate lifespan for these things.
I'm curious if anybody else has any thoughts on this situation. To my mind, both Google and Huawei knew that these phones were defective and should have recalled them. Instead, they are riding out the warranty and when the phone inevitably breaks telling owners that they are SOL.
Does anyone think it would be worthwhile for Nexus 6P owners to file a class action lawsuit against Google and Huawei or do you think it would be a waste of time? Are you OK buying a supposedly premium phone that likely won't last a full two years?
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You can try.
I'm in because I had to RMA my phone with a blank screen.
Paid the deductible to get it replaced.

tech_head said:
You can try.
I'm in because I had to RMA my phone with a blank screen.
Paid the deductible to get it replaced.
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I wouldn't know where to start and don't know any lawyers. But I seriously doubt that very many 6Ps will still be running by the time they are two years old. Shortly after a year seems to be when it's happening for a lot of people. I baby my phone but I still expect it to be dead by fall because my warranty expires in July. Currently I'm on Project Fi, which I like. That means I'll either have to buy a Pixel which is overpriced and apparently very difficult to root and mod or switch to another carrier so I can get something like a One Plus which is easy to root and mod and has a vibrant developer community. I'm not happy that I spent so much on this phone and it likely won't last two years. I have much older, far cheaper smartphones that still function fine. My Galaxy 3 still works perfectly. But this phone was apparently built like crap and nobody seems to want to hold Google and Huawei responsible for that.

Not sure where this will go, but I'm a 6P owner and watching the situation closely in these places:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=230848
https://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p-users-experiencing-random-bootloops/
So far I'm good. But it happens suddenly much of the time.

Az_Biker said:
Not sure where this will go, but I'm a 6P owner and watching the situation closely in these places:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=230848
https://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p-users-experiencing-random-bootloops/
So far I'm good. But it happens suddenly much of the time.
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do you think google have a solution for this big brob with flash because in my contry we don t have warranty

Az_Biker said:
Not sure where this will go, but I'm a 6P owner and watching the situation closely in these places:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=230848
https://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p-users-experiencing-random-bootloops/
So far I'm good. But it happens suddenly much of the time.
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Hello...
You can also follow this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/boot-loop-death-nexus-6p-t3533528
By the way... Every week there are new users reporting the same issue. I don't count those who also open new threads in Q/A section...
This is getting crazy. Seeing LG is now sued, it gives at least some hope that something will be done with Huawei.
How much people have a nice brick now?! And Google/Huawei who tell them since their warranty ended a few days/weeks/months ago, they won't fix their device. Though some had exceptions and have had their device replaced/repaired, others pay for a motherboard replacement. A Device that already costed them 700$ or more and now the repair!
Also some people kept harassing Google/Huawei because the first person they called didn't accept to replace/repair their device. They tried again and after 2 or 3 calls they finally successed! Isn't it crazy?! Like if you give up at first try, you're just fuxxed...
Though with all this, you're not even sure it won't fail anymore. As they didn't acknowledge the issue, nor they did state they took measures to fix the problem...
I haven't experienced the issue yet, but the phone is exactly one year old. My wife uses it now since i upgraded. It's just boring to backup photos every few days, fearing it suddenly breaks!
They deserve a little punishment in my opinion. :angel:

leroilion02 said:
do you think google have a solution for this big brob with flash because in my contry we don t have warranty
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I'd like to think that Huawei/Google would step up and at least offer a 50% disc on new device or 50% refund on bricked 6Ps. Anything other than, SORRY, it's out of warranty (even though thousands of devices are having the same issue)...
5.1 said:
Hello...
You can also follow this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/boot-loop-death-nexus-6p-t3533528
By the way... Every week there are new users reporting the same issue. I don't count those who also open new threads in Q/A section...
This is getting crazy. Seeing LG is now sued, it gives at least some hope that something will be done with Huawei.
How much people have a nice brick now?! And Google/Huawei who tell them since their warranty ended a few days/weeks/months ago, they won't fix their device. Though some had exceptions and have had their device replaced/repaired, others pay for a motherboard replacement. A Device that already costed them 700$ or more and now the repair!
Also some people kept harassing Google/Huawei because the first person they called didn't accept to replace/repair their device. They tried again and after 2 or 3 calls they finally successed! Isn't it crazy?! Like if you give up at first try, you're just fuxxed...
Though with all this, you're not even sure it won't fail anymore. As they didn't acknowledge the issue, nor they did state they took measures to fix the problem...
I haven't experienced the issue yet, but the phone is exactly one year old. My wife uses it now since i upgraded. It's just boring to backup photos every few days, fearing it suddenly breaks!
They deserve a little punishment in my opinion. :angel:
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Thanks. It would be nice if companies were held to some quality of manufacture law for things like this that happen after the warranty period. It's as if they think "we only have to make it last ONE YEAR, then it can fall apart after the warranty is over"... When thousands of devices are having similar issues, that's not just a coincidence!

Az_Biker said:
I'd like to think that Huawei/Google would step up and at least offer a 50% disc on new device or 50% refund on bricked 6Ps. Anything other than, SORRY, it's out of warranty (even though thousands of devices are having the same issue)...
Thanks. It would be nice if companies were held to some quality of manufacture law for things like this that happen after the warranty period. It's as if they think "we only have to make it last ONE YEAR, then it can fall apart after the warranty is over"... When thousands of devices are having similar issues, that's not just a coincidence!
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It always reminds me of the Samsung TVs case: https://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-settlement-warrants-older-tvs-with-faulty-capacitors/
They accepted to fix the faulty units and extended the warranty. If you read the post till the end though, this is the best part:
"Samsung officially denies the complaints in the suit"
Although they denied their TVs having a problem, they knew they would loose sooner or later. So they just they settled the lawsuit to avoid further costs. This is no rocket science...
For me, this is called programmed obsolescence. A technic widely used by almost all electronic devices manufacturers these days. Huawei should replace faulty motherboards. No matter how old those are! And extend the warranty on the new hardware.
Cheers...

It feels like i paid for a Premium brick costing 700 dollars!

Well, I too, am in the bootloop of death club... Here's my story if anyone wants a read.
https://plus.google.com/117402788701749987746/posts/5y5PNrvg3fN
Guess I'll try my luck with Huawei and see what they say.

jhs39 said:
Does anyone think it would be worthwhile for Nexus 6P owners to file a class action lawsuit against Google and Huawei or do you think it would be a waste of time? Are you OK buying a supposedly premium phone that likely won't last a full two years?
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Sounds as if it is beginning: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71860686&postcount=706
See also:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/04/14/google-may-sued-nexus-6p-early-shutdown-bootloop-issues/

So I just got off the phone with Huawei and unfortunately I am 4 months out of warranty. Said I can send it in to fix it and they'll let me know how much its gonna cost. I am so pissed right now. This is ridiculous. They're blaming the latest 7.1.2 update from Google and how it's not just the 6p it's affecting...hmmm Who's telling the truth?

treezy26 said:
So I just got off the phone with Huawei and unfortunately I am 4 months out of warranty. Said I can send it in to fix it and they'll let me know how much its gonna cost. I am so pissed right now. This is ridiculous. They're blaming the latest 7.1.2 update from Google and how it's not just the 6p it's affecting...hmmm Who's telling the truth?
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Read this post. Follow the link and read: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71860686&postcount=706
Also... No need to post the same message three times
Cheers...

5.1 said:
Read this post. Follow the link and read: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71860686&postcount=706
Also... No need to post the same message three times
Cheers...
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I have seen this and going to look into it further.
Also... I posted it 5 times, just in different threads...:silly:

treezy26 said:
Also... I posted it 5 times, just in different threads...:silly:
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Spam?

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Spam?
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You call it spam, I call it desperate...

treezy26 said:
You call it spam, I call it desperate...
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I understand you. Even though I haven't got the issue yet and since my wife takes a lot of pics with (my ex) her N6P, i have to backup up almost every day. Doing this since the beginning of this issue. It's really boring.
I wish you luck! Try contacting Huawei again. Hopefully you'll talk to another tech who'll acknowledge the issue and will repair/replace.your phone. Don't give up!.
Or else, fill the lawyer's survey! :good:
PS: Huawei blamed first 7.0 update, then 7.1 and now 7.1.2. lol...
Good luck...

5.1 said:
I understand you. Even though I haven't got the issue yet and since my wife takes a lot of pics with (my ex) her N6P, i have to backup up almost every day. Doing this since the beginning of this issue. It's really boring.
I wish you luck! Try contacting Huawei again. Hopefully you'll talk to another tech who'll acknowledge the issue and will repair/replace.your phone. Don't give up!.
Or else, fill the lawyer's survey! :good:
PS: Huawei blamed first 7.0 update, then 7.1 and now 7.1.2. lol...
Good luck...
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Well I was so frustrated that I went ahead and ask them to go ahead and send me the stuff needed to send it back. Hopefully whenever it gets there, I can speak with someone else and talk them into fixing it for free. Thanks.

treezy26 said:
Well I was so frustrated that I went ahead and ask them to go ahead and send me the stuff needed to send it back. Hopefully whenever it gets there, I can speak with someone else and talk them into fixing it for free. Thanks.
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Ah...
Keep harassing them until they repair/replace your device free of charge!
Good luck...

Add Me to the growing list
Yep, my 6p- Aluminum 32GB phone had the problem. Same issue plaguing others too, infinite bootloop. Android Recovery Mode doesn't fix it, nothing does.
I sent it to Huawei on 3/10/17 and its now 4/14/17 and they still haven't given me back the phone. The message they give me is "the phone is fixed and is just waiting to be shipped"..... yeah sure I have been told this 4 time since 3/24/17, an ETA please? No, no ETA. You start to get suspicious the second time around and downright furious on the 3rd......and 4th time 21 FREAKING DAYS LATER. Had it escalated today 4/14/17. Hoping for the best:laugh::laugh:yeah no I'm not. Lawsuit time?