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[Q] Kernel's compatible with Koni's Elite Series II. HTC EVO.

Hey there! Relatively new to flashing ROM's and such. Rooted last Friday and I've been playing with a few different ROM's the past couple of days. I flashed Koni's Elite Series II ROM last night and I love the ROM. I still hate the battery life on the EVO so I put King's CFS #11 Kernel on it (read some where this was a great Kernel for battery life). Everything was running fine and I installed SetCPU on and had it on 'Conservative'.
It rebooted out of no where and whenever it was booting back up during the boot screen I could tell there was 2 different shades of black. Whenever the phone booted up and I got to the actual phone and dragged the lock bar down you could see little lines (running vertically) up and down the screen and it was reaaaaal laggy. So I figured SetCPU did something to my CPU and was making it bottleneck or something like that, so I uninstalled it. Didn't fix the problem so I restored back to Myn's WarmTwoPointTwo.
So, I love the ROM, and could probably use a crash course with ROMs/Kernel compatibility. If anyone has a link, or even a direct answer as to the thread title, that'd be great.
Appreciate the help!

I am pretty sure that rom is a Sense based rom, so your options for a kernel are pretty broad.
-Netarchy Kernels-Seem to work great for everyone around here and a lot of people are big fans of, I have used some and never had a problem
-Ziggy's- Can be found at www.ziggy471.com and when I did use Sense these were a favorite for me, and gave me the best battery life. With SetCPU use the Smartass governor from my experience was flawless.
-Tiamat- Just came out with a Froyo kernel, I can say that his AOSP kernels are amazing so I would imagine the Froyo would be just the same.
*A handfull of these kernels use SBC and will state if they do. This will give you phenomenal battery life. I have never been a fan and some say that it may cause issues with your battery and your phone(you can read the stories on here). Many have used without a problem though, so if you do you assume the risk.
You will have to decided if you want to use CFS vs. BFS, personally for battery life I prefer CFS but some say otherwise. Ultimately you have to just try them out because not all phones are created equal and will not work the same for everyone. I think there is a thread in Q&A in regards to everything Kernels.

Whew. Thanks a ton for the information. I guess King's Kernel's don't work with this particular ROM. That's fine though.
I'll definitely check out Ziggy's kernel's and see how they work. I've read a couple of the horror stories from SBC based kernel's. I may try one out in the future if I get desperate.
Good to know what kind of ROM it is. Really appreciate the info.

Monoxzide said:
Whew. Thanks a ton for the information. I guess King's Kernel's don't work with this particular ROM. That's fine though.
I'll definitely check out Ziggy's kernel's and see how they work. I've read a couple of the horror stories from SBC based kernel's. I may try one out in the future if I get desperate.
Good to know what kind of ROM it is. Really appreciate the info.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894880
There is a kernel guide, just kind of tells you what all the abbreviations and stuff mean, should help you out a lot to understand what will work best for you.

Yellowcard8992 said:
There is a kernel guide, just kind of tells you what all the abbreviations and stuff mean, should help you out a lot to understand what will work best for you.
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Yeah I checked that website out too. I was just confused on what Kernel's go with what ROM's.
I'm really computer savvy and that didn't happen in 3 days, so this will just take some time.
Update: Just flashed Ziggy's newest EVO kernel. Will use this for a day or two and see how it works.
For the SetCPU Smartass Governer? Do I need to download SetCPU in the market and use the setting through it?

Monoxzide said:
Yeah I checked that website out too. I was just confused on what Kernel's go with what ROM's.
I'm really computer savvy and that didn't happen in 3 days, so this will just take some time.
Update: Just flashed Ziggy's newest EVO kernel. Will use this for a day or two and see how it works.
For the SetCPU Smartass Governer? Do I need to download SetCPU in the market and use the setting through it?
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It all depends on what you want to do actually. I believe his kernels are set to Smartass by default, and there is a built in screen off profile that lowers your cpu speed when the screen is off to conserve battery. If you want to create anymore profiles than you will have to get it yes.

Kernel comparisons

I was wondering if anyone has done any actual testing between the different popular kernels available for the N4, or even a spread speed with a feature comparison.
With so man different options it hard to tell how they stack up, which have what fixes or what additions applied. I feel like someone should make a sticky that compares the kernels side by side so that newbies/people who are just not technical or great on following what has recently updated, can tell what each option offers.
I know that on the Nexus 7 forum there is a thread where a person applies the same device, ROM and settings to multiple kernels and test battery life in a few separate situations. I'd love to see someone do that for the Nexus 4 as well. I know there are many variables in play, but it can give people an idea of what each kernel provides.
That way people can more easily narrow down what kernels fit their needs/feature desires.

the problem is that different devices react differently to each kernel. one devices great, can be another devices horrible. i do understand your idea though, im not saying its bad, because it is a good idea. its just the results would be accurate(maybe, depends on how tested, for the tester. but could be very inaccurate for another device.

I know that, but at least a tracking spread sheet would be handy for comparisons, and the testing would let people know somewhat what what to expect.

knitler said:
I know that, but at least a tracking spread sheet would be handy for comparisons, and the testing would let people know somewhat what what to expect.
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What do you want the most out of a kernel? Battery life, speed, or oc?
I know im repeating another fellow member but not all chips are created equal. It all depends what kinda of use. You could try a kernel and run your tests on it. Then save pictures of the graphs if you can. Then flash a different kernel and make comparisons on them. A good place to start is Faux123 or Franco kernel. Both kernels are developed very well.

I don't think you are following me.
If you want to know what Kernels allow:
Color calibration
Ennhanced audio
built-in wifi fix
underclock to 192mhz
Would you rather read 12-15 threads or just look at a spreadsheet in a sticky on top of the forum, and know what 2-3 to choose from instead of reading all the descriptions and notes?

knitler said:
I don't think you are following me.
If you want to know what Kernels allow:
Color calibration
Ennhanced audio
built-in wifi fix
underclock to 192mhz
Would you rather read 12-15 threads or just look at a spreadsheet in a sticky on top of the forum, and know what 2-3 to choose from instead of reading all the descriptions and notes?
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Just try some kernel`s out and keep the one you like most, is this again one of those disguised `best of` threads? Each user has a different setup (apps, widgets, syncing, roms, mods) so this would not be a test under similar conditions.

knitler said:
I don't think you are following me.
If you want to know what Kernels allow:
Color calibration
Ennhanced audio
built-in wifi fix
underclock to 192mhz
Would you rather read 12-15 threads or just look at a spreadsheet in a sticky on top of the forum, and know what 2-3 to choose from instead of reading all the descriptions and notes?
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If it bugs you so much why don't you make the spreadsheet? It's not like you'd have to learn code or something. Just saying..

knitler said:
Would you rather read 12-15 threads or just look at a spreadsheet in a sticky on top of the forum, and know what 2-3 to choose from instead of reading all the descriptions and notes?
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When I chose a kernel, I used to manually look through each kernel thread and then just try the kernel myself. Didn't need any fancy spreadsheet or comparison charts.
Plus I have a feeling it would... deter newer kernel developers and misguide newer users. A user sees "X" kernel not having a feature, when 5 other kernels have every feature, and they'll skip right over that kernel, regardless of what benefits it may offer.

espionage724 said:
When I chose a kernel, I used to manually look through each kernel thread and then just try the kernel myself. Didn't need any fancy spreadsheet or comparison charts.
Plus I have a feeling it would... deter newer kernel developers and misguide newer users. A user sees "X" kernel not having a feature, when 5 other kernels have every feature, and they'll skip right over that kernel, regardless of what benefits it may offer.
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If the kernel has benefits then they would just be listed. You're example doesn't make much sense to me, if a person wants a feature, they yes, they will use a kernel that has that feature. If a person wants to tune the color on their screen why would they NOT get a kernel with that control feature?

knitler said:
If the kernel has benefits then they would just be listed. You're example doesn't make much sense to me, if a person wants a feature, they yes, they will use a kernel that has that feature. If a person wants to tune the color on their screen why would they NOT get a kernel with that control feature?
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a few good kernels dont list "features". and some kernels make up names for features to make them sound more then they are, and make it a point to list "features" that really arent. really, its best to try a kernel, as these "feature" lists can be very misleading.

[Q] Oppo Find 5 - Which Kernel do you use?

Hi there,
I was unsure if I should ask this in the Oppo Forum or here, if I am in the wrong place just tell me!
As for my question: I just wanted to know what kernel other user owning the Find 5 and running Omni Rom are using.
I was kind of unable to find a fit when i searched in the Find 5 Forum in "Android Original Development" (this was the right forum right?). So I am happy about any reply. If you could drop a few words on why you use this very kernel, even more!
If I was just plain dumb/blind asking this question cause it was answerd a thousand times before - please give me directions, I really didn't find what I was looking for.
chuSmu

Every oppo find 5 kernel for 4.3/4 is a custom one since coloros is still at android 4.2
Which is what oppo shares on their github.
For 4.3/4 there are AFAIK only two kernels
-based on the omnirom one
-from cfxe http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/a...-y-codefirexperiment-nightlies-weeklies.5630/
Dont know about CM

maxwen said:
Every oppo find 5 kernel for 4.3/4 is a custom one since coloros is still at android 4.2
Which is what oppo shares on their github.
For 4.3/4 there are AFAIK only two kernels
-based on the omnirom one
-from cfxe http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/a...-y-codefirexperiment-nightlies-weeklies.5630/
Dont know about CM
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Ok, thanks a bunch - that explains it. I concluded from your post that 4.3 kernels work on 4.4 too? Is that correct?
But i thought that there were only two major differences between kernels for the same device and the same
android version - sense and aosp. Your words were "the only ones based on omni rom..." does that mean there are more
differences i have to look out for? Sorry.. i really still am a noob when it comes to kernels and stuff.

Keep in mind that modified system configurations (such as changing the kernel) are NOT supported by Omni.
If you are running a kernel other than the included one, your configuration becomes invalid for any bug reports.

Entropy512 said:
Keep in mind that modified system configurations (such as changing the kernel) are NOT supported by Omni.
If you are running a kernel other than the included one, your configuration becomes invalid for any bug reports.
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Thanks for the info - I did not know this..it might actually keep me from installing another kernel. It was just that i wanted to toy a little around wih it (after reading some more ^^) simply cause I have never done it before and wanted to experience firsthand how it can affect performance and battery life.

chuSmu said:
Thanks for the info - I did not know this..it might actually keep me from installing another kernel. It was just that i wanted to toy a little around wih it (after reading some more ^^) simply cause I have never done it before and wanted to experience firsthand how it can affect performance and battery life.
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Many of the tweaks that people install custom kernels for can be simply achieved by altering the tuning settings of their existing kernel.
For example, those who really like battery life may wish to choose the conservative governor and set aggressive up/down thresholds. (up threshold 90 and down of 60 is what I use)

Entropy512 said:
Many of the tweaks that people install custom kernels for can be simply achieved by altering the tuning settings of their existing kernel.
For example, those who really like battery life may wish to choose the conservative governor and set aggressive up/down thresholds. (up threshold 90 and down of 60 is what I use)
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Yeah that's what I was looking for. Though i failed to realize that these options are provided ^^. It's kinda embarassing cause i only noticed
them when i wanted to switch apps with switchtr and pulled out the sliding bar by accident.
So yeah i had what i wanted all along .. Well anyways ... thanks for providing the settings you use. I'm gonna try them!
chuSmu

Shinto Kernel

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Maybe this will answer your question

I had read that at his end, but I was curious why I never saw it discussed anywhere by anyone. He has a good thing going there.

Megaflop666 said:
I had read that at his end, but I was curious why I never saw it discussed anywhere by anyone. He has a good thing going there.
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I was intrigued as well. There are rules pertaining to kernels here in xda. If a dev won't comply, the thread gets to be closed down.

saywhatt said:
I was intrigued as well. There are rules pertaining to kernels here in xda. If a dev won't comply, the thread gets to be closed down.
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Yes I know the rules, but I figured someone would've started a discussion in the general area. Oh well, guess I just did.
I don't know what I expected actually, my experience on any forum is that most people don't research on their own, they come to forums and if the answer isn't there, they give up. I love googling for new undiscovered gems. :thumbup:

Hi!
First of all, I would like to thank you wholeheartedly for the interest in ShinTo Kernel and your time in testing it.
I am sincerely blown away by the spike in interest... Just wow!
In the space of two months I have moved twice across Europe and am currently getting settled in my new home (and waiting for the darn broadband).
I can assure you two things; ShinTo Kernel & PreCog.me are not a hobby.
They are my daily work focus (as in my daily job).
I could extend myself talking about the great projects I have but I am the kind of person that prefers to prove with facts so... Keep an eye on PreCog.me
Ps: i don't want to monopolize the thread so... If you have any specific questions or I can help out in any way, then please do ask
Ps2: I am eternally grateful to xda, civato and all the great ppl here...
Note3 N9005 running the insanely brutal [ShinTo Kernel] v028a005 yeaaaah!
For some interesting stuff why not head to PreCog.me

CekMTL said:
Hi!
First of all, I would like to thank you wholeheartedly for the interest in ShinTo Kernel and your time in testing it.
I am sincerely blown away by the spike in interest... Just wow!
In the space of two months I have moved twice across Europe and am currently getting settled in my new home (and waiting for the darn broadband).
I can assure you two things; ShinTo Kernel & PreCog.me are not a hobby.
They are my daily work focus (as in my daily job).
I could extend myself talking about the great projects I have but I am the kind of person that prefers to prove with facts so... Keep an eye on PreCog.me
Ps: i don't want to monopolize the thread so... If you have any specific questions or I can help out in any way, then please do ask
Ps2: I am eternally grateful to xda, civato and all the great ppl here...
Note3 N9005 running the insanely brutal [ShinTo Kernel] v028a005 yeaaaah!
For some interesting stuff why not head to PreCog.me
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Already a member at precog and get your email updates. I've been watching your progress and am currently test driving your most current version. :thumbup:

Thank you so much!
Expect v28a005 by mid next week if all goes well.
Note3 N9005 running the insanely brutal [ShinTo Kernel] v028a005 yeaaaah!
For some interesting stuff why not head to PreCog.me

CekMTL said:
Thank you so much!
Expect v28a005 by mid next week if all goes well.
Note3 N9005 running the insanely brutal [ShinTo Kernel] v028a005 yeaaaah!
For some interesting stuff why not head to PreCog.me
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ooooh i can't wait! :highfive:

ShinTo Kernel v028a005 has over 50 updates/enhancements/fixes and it is compiled with the latest bleeding edge Linaro Toolchain GCC 4.9.2
I also fixed the cosmetic issue of not displaying the kernel name correctly in the TW settings app.
If there are no unforeseeable issues, it should be released around the middle of the week

CekMTL said:
ShinTo Kernel v028a005 has over 50 updates/enhancements/fixes and it is compiled with the latest bleeding edge Linaro Toolchain GCC 4.9.2
I also fixed the cosmetic issue of not displaying the kernel name correctly in the TW settings app.
If there are no unforeseeable issues, it should be released around the middle of the week
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And it runs smooth as silk....

Just to update you guys; there's a slight delay with QA, but it will be released this week, probably tomorrow or friday.
Thx!

Is Faux Sound compatible with this kernel?

B3311 said:
Is Faux Sound compatible with this kernel?
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Yes it is

ShinTo Kernel for note 3 has been released!

Can anyone post a cycle of their battery life with this kernel? And a benchmark would be nice too(I know what you'll say but please one would be appreciated thanks!). Thanks!

Graffiti Exploit said:
Can anyone post a cycle of their battery life with this kernel? And a benchmark would be nice too(I know what you'll say but please one would be appreciated thanks!). Thanks!
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Why?
Your setup and phone use is completely unique. Anyone else's battery life will not give you the slightest clue as to what yours might be.
Flash it and see for yourself.

Graffiti Exploit said:
Can anyone post a cycle of their battery life with this kernel? And a benchmark would be nice too(I know what you'll say but please one would be appreciated thanks!). Thanks!
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Benchmarks are different from device to device. They're not a true statement about a kernels performance. I get insane battery, I get lightning fast speeds and I love using the kernel. This is a discussion of the kernel in this thread, that's why I started it. This is not an official Dev thread, that will come later from the Dev. Of you're interested in it, head over to precog.me and read the official kernel page. :thumbup:

B3311 said:
Why?
Your setup and phone use is completely unique. Anyone else's battery life will not give you the slightest clue as to what yours might be.
Flash it and see for yourself.
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Actually it can serve as basis. For example if that user is able to achieve 10hrs SOT, then at least I know that the kernel is capable of going that far. No matter how you force a kernel, if it has bad battery life then it can never achieve high SOTs. It actually us very helpful for one to post battery stats because I can then adjust and try to get close or even surpass the user's settings.
With all due respect, I think you are wrong in saying it won't give me the slightest clue of what the battery life of mine will be. It actually can tell a lot(if I'm doing things wrong or right). That's how users learn how to improve their devices by getting tips from others. And for that reason I'm refraining from flashing it because I have a very good set-up. I know I can go back just with flashing the stock kernel, but we all know that sometimes it doesn't really work 100%. "Something" gets broken somehow at a random chance.

Graffiti Exploit said:
Actually it can serve as basis. For example if that user is able to achieve 10hrs SOT, then at least I know that the kernel is capable of going that far. No matter how you force a kernel, if it has bad battery life then it can never achieve high SOTs. It actually us very helpful for one to post battery stats because I can then adjust and try to get close or even surpass the user's settings.
With all due respect, I think you are wrong in saying it won't give me the slightest clue of what the battery life of mine will be. It actually can tell a lot(if I'm doing things wrong or right). That's how users learn how to improve their devices by getting tips from others. And for that reason I'm refraining from flashing it because I have a very good set-up. I know I can go back just with flashing the stock kernel, but we all know that sometimes it doesn't really work 100%. "Something" gets broken somehow at a random chance.
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Fair enough, but I still disagree.
For example - on my last cycle I got nearly 8 hours SOT and about 1 day 13 hours on one charge. What can one infer from that? I say another user can infer very little, there are way too many variables.
I use Alliance ROM. This was my first cycle with this kernel. I use only 100% black wallpapers, system, desktop, and lockscreen are all black. One homescreen. Brightness about 40% except for videos. Tasker is set so that screen off=WiFi and data off, and I use a flip cover. I've deleted over 100 apps. I've removed about 25 autostarts with SD Maid, usually only use about 750 mb at startup. I never sync anything whatsoever. Two widgets, clock/weather and music. Location is always off unless I'm navigating.
I could go on, there's more, but I hope you see my point. And that's before the vast amount of kernel tweaks I've set up with Faux Clock, which I'll probably tweak further. And I haven't even mentioned my usage....
With further cycles I'll probably squeeze more juice out of it, who knows?
If you think this will give you any idea about your battery life, fine. But I can't see how it can.
As for benchmarks - a waste of time if you're comparing with another device, only remotely useful if you're comparing performance with different setups on the same phone, IMHO.

N00b to all this and looking for guidance!

HI guys. So I'm trying to configure my phone for the best performance / battery for userspace. IE Internet phone apps gui GPS etc. Not looking for gaming tweaks or any thing like that just a powerful user tool. I have it on rooted stock tmobile klte android mm I have susuper and xposed framework installed as well as rom tool box pro. I'm looking to make this thing a beast as it is with the rom toolbox settings tweaks and kernel. I tried a couple modded roms but wasn't to happy with the way I need to use my phone. I'm looking for help not criticism lol. Thanks in advance and I'll post any relevant logs or current settings if any one suggests.

Since you have xposed, I recommend using Firefds kit. It has quite a large number of touchwiz specific tweaks that will improve stock ROM experience.
As for performance, there isn't a whole lot other than using a custom kernel, but most kernels out there are only for the g900f. You can play around with Kernel Adiutor, especially the IO stuff that will improve transfer speeds.

Saber said:
Since you have xposed, I recommend using Firefds kit. It has quite a large number of touchwiz specific tweaks that will improve stock ROM experience.
As for performance, there isn't a whole lot other than using a custom kernel, but most kernels out there are only for the g900f. You can play around with Kernel Adiutor, especially the IO stuff that will improve transfer speeds.
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I've been playing around abit with build prop and the other stuff. The build.prop stuff soft bricked me a couple of times so until I do more research on it I'm gonna leave it alone. As far as xposed I was actually thinking of uninstalling it because ROM Pro toolbox is working pretty good I like the results. I need to find out more tho because I was having an issue with calls being dropped after a lil over a min but did a recovery and it seems to be OK. I really would like some advice on how to tune rom toolbox settings to make this thing scream