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Juice Defender and Battery enhancing applications

Any positive reviews with Juice Defender ? I had it on my phone and used it on the extreme settings but didn't notice any difference even though it say it has improved my battery life by 1.68 times.
How do you make it really work ? Any tweaks and suggestions are welcome.
PS: Are there are more battery boosting applications out there that enhance the battery life ?

mjehan said:
Any positive reviews with Juice Defender ? I had it on my phone and used it on the extreme settings but didn't notice any difference even though it say it has improved my battery life by 1.68 times.
How do you make it really work ? Any tweaks and suggestions are welcome.
PS: Are there are more battery boosting applications out there that enhance the battery life ?
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Is there any battery life boosting app that works?
I don't believe all the hype.. It runs in the background, so the apps itself is a battery drainer..
Sorry, but for me, lowering brightness, turning off 3g and mobile network when unused and also turning off haptic feedback helps increasing my battery's charge..

Of course these apps work. They turn off all radios when the screen is off, so, of course, they save battery.
Have you used this baby with radios enabled and the screen off? It gushes battery. With Juicedefender it looses very little battery when you're not using it (I should point out that the app will occasionally switch on the radio to get updates).
I recommend that you let JD manage your data and wi fi connections. It will intelligently use the radio that best saves battery. After some training, its like magic (it trains itself).
I've used several battery savers and I like Juicedefender best. It permits you to actually use the phone without disabling every damn facility and still get a day of use out of it.

Tried it once but use Green Power Battery Saver now, much prefer the easier UI
If rooted, along with LeeDrOiD 1.5.0 my battery life is amazing

bobbyelliott said:
Of course these apps work. They turn off all radios when the screen is off, so, of course, they save battery.
Have you used this baby with radios enabled and the screen off? It gushes battery. With Juicedefender it looses very little battery when you're not using it (I should point out that the app will occasionally switch on the radio to get updates).
I recommend that you let JD manage your data and wi fi connections. It will intelligently use the radio that best saves battery. After some training, its like magic (it trains itself).
I've used several battery savers and I like Juicedefender best. It permits you to actually use the phone without disabling every damn facility and still get a day of use out of it.
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I turn off wifi when I'm not using it, but 3g is too much hassle and I suppose I do struggle to get much more than 24 hours out of a single charge but gushing battery?

bobbyelliott said:
Of course these apps work. They turn off all radios when the screen is off, so, of course, they save battery.
Have you used this baby with radios enabled and the screen off? It gushes battery. With Juicedefender it looses very little battery when you're not using it (I should point out that the app will occasionally switch on the radio to get updates).
I recommend that you let JD manage your data and wi fi connections. It will intelligently use the radio that best saves battery. After some training, its like magic (it trains itself).
I've used several battery savers and I like Juicedefender best. It permits you to actually use the phone without disabling every damn facility and still get a day of use out of it.
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I think the phone does this without the help of additional apps. I'm losing only 1% per hour on standby with 3g enabled and auto sync. I did nothing special to the phone and I have no "battery saving" app. Does it, practically anyway, get any better?
Cheers from my DHD.

junta_mpb said:
I'm losing only 1% per hour on standby with 3g enabled and auto sync.
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You get 100 hours out of this phone with 3G enabled and auto-syncing Facebook, Twitter, etc? You must have got one out of that batch of super-phones that HTC accidentally produced.

bobbyelliott said:
You get 100 hours out of this phone with 3G enabled and auto-syncing Facebook, Twitter, etc? You must have got one out of that batch of super-phones that HTC accidentally produced.
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Lol
I'm trying green power at the mo.

What settings do you use for green power?
Mine settings:
Managing wifi and mobile network
checking traffic (0,1kB/s)
Starting at boot
Day Mode:
07:00 - 22:00
On 10min - Off 10min
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
Night mode:
22:00-07:00
On 1min-Off 8h
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked

I don't see the need to use stuff like this. I unplugged mine this morning and I still have 85% left with some moderate use with Facebook on push, weather and e-mail on 1 hour and others on once a day or update when opened.
I should point out I am using the Cingular radio and Android Revolution HD 2.0.9 but even when I was on stock I didn't have a terrible drain unless I had HTC Sense syncing away to itself. That seems to be the key issue.

mngmng said:
What settings do you use for green power?
Mine settings:
Managing wifi and mobile network
checking traffic (0,1kB/s)
Starting at boot
Day Mode:
07:00 - 22:00
On 10min - Off 10min
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
Night mode:
22:00-07:00
On 1min-Off 8h
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
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Managing wifi and mobile network
checking traffic (0,1kB/s)
Starting at boot
Day Mode:
6:30 - 02:00
On 1min - Off 10min
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
Night mode:
02:00-06:30
On 1min-Off 1h
On if power ON
On if screen unlocked
I'm using the premium one though so there is a few extra settings. It definitely works though.

bobbyelliott said:
You get 100 hours out of this phone with 3G enabled and auto-syncing Facebook, Twitter, etc? You must have got one out of that batch of super-phones that HTC accidentally produced.
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You may be missing the "on standby" part of my post that refers to the one made by another poster. The point is, I think the phone already disabled unneeded functions without the need for an app. My phone doesn't have unbelievable battery life, but it doesn't suck either.
Anyways, I think "battery saving" apps just end up using more power.
Cheers from my DHD.

I have dissconnected phone from computer on Sunday 7 pm. Started Juice defender. About three hours of reading comics, about 30 minutes phone calls, email few times a day and some internet/market (about 1/1.5 hours) and on Tuesday, 2 pm, I still have 34% battery. There was some music playing for about an hour and video clips for same time. Great result in my opinion. I think Juice defender works great. At least very good.

JD is alright, its not stellar but it does help (for me and my settings and usage). It will help a lot better if you purchase Ultimate Juice, that's when it starts to be interesting but that's the thing, you'd have to purchase it before you discover if its the best solution for you.
I don't think there's one app that will universally make our battery life better. The apps will help if you could make its functions play well with your settings and style of usage. Short of saying that if you find an app that will enhance your battery saving habits and capitalize on the opportunities that your phone can save power, then that'll be the best option for you...
JD is alright, UJ makes it a lot better...

It looks like it is better solution then buying extra bettery. Good job. I am gonna try it for some more time and if the effect will be the same I will get the UJ. Thanks.

junta_mpb said:
You may be missing the "on standby" part of my post
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No, I didn't miss that part. This phone does not drain at 1% per hour with 3G and syncing enabled - in standby or not in standby. It just doesn't. And there are newbies reading this forum who might believe your figures.

bobbyelliott said:
No, I didn't miss that part. This phone does not drain at 1% per hour with 3G and syncing enabled - in standby or not in standby. It just doesn't. And there are newbies reading this forum who might believe your figures.
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It does. I sleep for 8 hours, I lose 8%. I think its supports the argument that the phone only uses resources when needed. Since it doesnt sync the entire time and only when its scheduled to, I dont see this is as an impossible figure.
Lets try to remember the context comments are presented in this thread.

Android Assistant 2.2
Hi all, I would like just let you know, I tried a lot of apps for improving battery life, incl. Juice defender, and I must say the best one I tried is Android Assistant 2.2 build 15, after few settings I can say is really the best : full auto sync on gmail + company mail + weather, screen on 10%, screen off after 30s, gsm only, mobile data always-on, playing tank hero and few more games couple times a day, phone calls 30 - 45 minutes per day, 10 - 15 text per day, GTalk always on - and using quite a lot, wifi is on from 7.00 pm till 12.00 am, vibration always on, and result Full 2 days without any problems and overnight no any limitations, if I am using limitations overnight and not playing so much, and no wifi, battery will make easy 3 full days...

m7svk said:
Hi all, I would like just let you know, I tried a lot of apps for improving battery life, incl. Juice defender, and I must say the best one I tried is Android Assistant 2.2 build 15, after few settings I can say is really the best : full auto sync on gmail + company mail + weather, screen on 10%, screen off after 30s, gsm only, mobile data always-on, playing tank hero and few more games couple times a day, phone calls 30 - 45 minutes per day, 10 - 15 text per day, GTalk always on - and using quite a lot, wifi is on from 7.00 pm till 12.00 am, vibration always on, and result Full 2 days without any problems and overnight no any limitations, if I am using limitations overnight and not playing so much, and no wifi, battery will make easy 3 full days...
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Sorry but I can't find it on the market. Is the app's name correct?

mngmng said:
Sorry but I can't find it on the market. Is the app's name correct?
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Original name is "Android assistant(12 features)", by Aaron, he done already few apps for improving battery life, very good app incl cache cleaner and few more extras.

Battery tip for people with bad battery life.

I've had bad battery life since I bought this phone on release day. I would get no more than 1.5-2 hours screen on time. The battery wouldn't last more than 12 hours. I've been messing around with it since then but still had bad battery life up until the last few days. Now I get 3.5-4 hours screen on time and I'm a moderate user.
Here is what I did:
1. Go to Google maps and then go to settings and untick anything that is ticked then click on "location reporting" and set it to do not update your location.
2. Go into the phone settings>location services and untick everything. When you want to use maps just turn on gps.
3. Get the app "battery calibration". First charge your phone to 100% and keep the charger plugged in and then go to the app and Press calibrate. Then use your phone till the battery is dead (turns off) and plug the charger in and let it charge to 100% while it is off.
Turn it on and then use it till the battery is dead again and charge while off to 100%.
I'm not saying this is guaranteed to work for you but it has for me.

You know my problem is I did that and when on Jb lib battery drain like crazy.Back on ICS no problem with battery can you explain that why on ICS calibration is not needed ???
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You know my problem is I did that and when on Jb lib battery drain like crazy.Back on ICS no problem with battery can you explain that why on ICS calibration is not needed ???
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O end yes maps drain battery I turn this off
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uf21 said:
Up until now I had bad battery life since I bought this phone on release day. I would get no more than 1.5-2 screen on time. The battery wouldn't last more than 12 hours. I've been messing around with it since then but still had bad battery life up until the last few days. Now I get 3.5-4 hours screen on time and I'm a moderate user.
Here is what I did:
1. Go to Google maps and then go to settings and untick anything that is ticked then click on "location reporting" and set it to do not update your location.
2. Go into the phone settings>location services and untick everything. When you want to use maps just turn on gps.
3. Get the app "battery calibration". First charge your phone to 100% and keep the charger plugged in and then go to the app and Press calibrate. Then use your phone till the battery is dead (turns off) and plug the charger in and let it charge to 100% while it off.
Turn it on and then use it till the battery is dead again and charge while off to 100%.
I'm not saying this is guaranteed to work for you but it has for me.
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First two items I agree on. GPS uses up a lot of battery, though from personal experience, it didn't dent my battery too much anyway as long as I don't have running apps using it.
But the last point. I believe those battery calibrations are actually useless. There was some article from the android team describing why.

The 2nd and 3rd are completely useless.
People who use gps know that even if you tick those location services, it only gets enabled when an app requires gps. Thua, battery is only lost if you use loads of navigation services. Unchecking those won't do any good.
Battery Caliberation is just what you can call the perfect reading that is shown on your status bar. Ultimately, whether you caliberate or not, battery gets charged upto 100% only. It won't surely exceed that.
Sent from Hell!!

uf21 said:
I've had bad battery life since I bought this phone on release day. I would get no more than 1.5-2 hours screen on time. The battery wouldn't last more than 12 hours. I've been messing around with it since then but still had bad battery life up until the last few days. Now I get 3.5-4 hours screen on time and I'm a moderate user.
Here is what I did:
1. Go to Google maps and then go to settings and untick anything that is ticked then click on "location reporting" and set it to do not update your location.
2. Go into the phone settings>location services and untick everything. When you want to use maps just turn on gps.
3. Get the app "battery calibration". First charge your phone to 100% and keep the charger plugged in and then go to the app and Press calibrate. Then use your phone till the battery is dead (turns off) and plug the charger in and let it charge to 100% while it is off.
Turn it on and then use it till the battery is dead again and charge while off to 100%.
I'm not saying this is guaranteed to work for you but it has for me.
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A better idea:
Disable auto sync for accounts
Disable GPS (and wifi gps)
Disable auto backup of Gmail account
Set wifi sleep policy to “when plugged in”
Disable motion
Check your apps settings and disable useless background sync​

Setup a static IP via your router.

I had issues with Chrome Sync - when enabled it prevented phone from going into deep sleep. So if you use Chrome and struggle with battery life this is one more thing to look at ...

Official Facebook app uses a lot of power and waking device for many times. Use browser for facebook or alternatives...You will see the diference !

Darkside Agent said:
A better idea:
Disable auto sync for accounts
Disable GPS (and wifi gps)
Disable auto backup of Gmail account
Set wifi sleep policy to “when plugged in”
Disable motion
Check your apps settings and disable useless background sync​
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good list id like to add:
freeze unused apps/battery hogs if used sparringly (with titanium backup)
set wifi to always on, switch off manually when not in use
firewall apps that dont require internet

I agree on the Facebook app. I will charge my phone to full, reboot it, and then let it sit overnight without using any apps and it will be one of my top processes in better battery stats. I really like using facebook simply for the picture and phone number syncing. I guess I could always go back to haxsync. On my Galaxy Nexus since I can't use facebook app to sync I just use mobile page and it definitely is better on battery life.
I've been trying to improve my battery life on 4.1.1 LIB as if I leave it on Wifi overnight with no use after reboot and full charge I'll see Deep Sleep at maybe 90% if I'm lucky. I'm losing almost a full hour of sleep time over the course of 7-8 hours. I think Facebook is part of it, also it seems to be worse when I use the S3's built in alarms.

Go into Settings -> Location and disable everything? You mean that we should disable:
1) Use wireless networks (location determined by wi-fi and/or mobile networks). I really don't see how this saves battery.
2) Use GPS satellites. This uses up battery ONLY when an app requires GPS (and when the icon shows).
3) Use sensor aiding. See above.
4) Location and Google Search. (only used to get your location when you're connected to GPS and/or wifi/mobile network).
I really don't see how this saves battery.
On a side note, one might want to freeze unwanted apps, not use too many live wallpapers, sync only when needed, and get rid of unwanted widgets. THAT might help.

Better tip. Use your phone with everything turned on as it was designed like I do and get 4 hours + screen on time, and 1 to 2 days useage depending on how much it's used.. simples...

I really don't see the point of buying a phone like this and turning everything off!
Google now won't work properly with all the location stuff switched off.
I always get through the day with everything turned on, in use power saving at work and switch off wifi that's it.
If the battery runs down have a back up waiting, galaxy s3 owners are always going on about it being good that our phone has a removable battery and iphone doesn't but there are still many people not happy that their battery runs down quick!
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The best thing I ever spent on for this phone was the official samsung battery kit. At least I don't have to worry about the battery at all and I can leave all the features on.
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The best app to see exactly what's happening on the phone is "Better Battery Stats".
I can have access to all partial wavelocks and see exactly what app is sucking my battery like a vampire on a virgin.
Companies creates amazing devices but forgot to create the amazing batteries that go with them!

DeadSOL said:
Go into Settings -> Location and disable everything? You mean that we should disable:
1) Use wireless networks (location determined by wi-fi and/or mobile networks). I really don't see how this saves battery.
2) Use GPS satellites. This uses up battery ONLY when an app requires GPS (and when the icon shows).
3) Use sensor aiding. See above.
4) Location and Google Search. (only used to get your location when you're connected to GPS and/or wifi/mobile network).
I really don't see how this saves battery.
On a side note, one might want to freeze unwanted apps, not use too many live wallpapers, sync only when needed, and get rid of unwanted widgets. THAT might help.
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Yes that's true but this is not for everyone. I don't use Google now and why should I use wireless networks when there is a built in GPS.

Thank you OP. That was the problem with my phone. Now its awake when the screen is on. Before that, it was awake every 5 minutes. !!!!

And after you've turned every single feature off, you can stand back and admire your Nokia 3310

boundy said:
And after you've turned every single feature off, you can stand back and admire your Nokia 3310
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You're only turning of location services. Why does the phone need to know where you are 24/7? Just turn it on when you need to use maps or location. Not hard.
My car was designed to be driven, does that mean it should be left on while I'm not using it? Think about that.

terranoid said:
Thank you OP. That was the problem with my phone. Now its awake when the screen is on. Before that, it was awake every 5 minutes. !!!!
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Glad I could help.

Samsung Galaxy S6 battery life is insane (how to 8+ hours sot)

Hi
First of, to the mods. I know this belong in the battery thread, but I want to et out to as many that complain about the battery as possible, so people can get the battery life they should.
The problem with battery is bloatware and wakelocks. I'm gone from 80% deep sleep to 95%+ by flashing XtreStoLite. I lose less than a % over a night (10 hours). My Wakelocks is less than a % and 2% on a bad day.
After i flashed XtreStoLite my battery life got almost doubled. I have same apps installed as before besides all the bloatware. Only a few must have samsung apps.
Before this I barely hit 4 hours sot on mobile data and now I easy get 5 and 8+ on wifi.
After the rom and all the apps are installed, install greenify and hibernate all the apps that you don't need push notifications on. The first few days check greenify to cut off wake up paths. I have greenified every single app besides messenger.
Last thing is disable services. With the app disable services.
com.google.android.gms.analytics.service.Analytics Service
com.google.android.gms/com.android.location.internal.GoogleLocationManage rService(Location Service) I have found out that it will not allow you to change settings on your wear if disabled or sync watch faces or their settings. So if I get a new watch face I just enable it again, configure the face and disable the service again afterwards.
com.android.gms.Feedback.FeedbackService(Breaks Play Games)
com.android.gms.ads.AdRequestBrokerService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.network.NetworkLocatio nService(Location Service)
com.google.android.location.geofencer.service.Geof encerProviderService(GPS Service)
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.copresence.service.Pro ximitySettingInjectorService
com.facebook.katana/com.facebook.analytics.service.AnalyticsService
com.facebook.orca/com.facebook.analytics.service.AnalyticsService
If you know what you're doing you can disable from more apps.
Last, remember to backup!
Feel free to ask any questions you may have!

Whats your standby time though?

King p1n said:
Whats your standby time though?
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Well, only had it for a few days. Got 16 hours yesterday with 61% left. With high usage (5+ hours SOT, so that decrease standby time by a bit)
It's the standby time that mainly increased doing this. I just checked my Partial Wakelocks in BetterBatteryStats and they're all showing 0%.

Are location services for running apps still working after disabling those services? Does Google Maps still work for example?

woeds said:
Are location services for running apps still working after disabling those services? Does Google Maps still work for example?
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It's working "fine". Just longer to set location first time. I think the reason Google Play Services is running rampant, is because it's getting our location all the time with Mobile data (google services is under control on Wifi).
So yeah, works fine. Just takes a little longer to get loc.

So basically you'll need to trip knox for this?

What do you use your device for, may I ask?
I mean:
What apps do you use the most? (especially interested about Facebook, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram, Google Photos and Spotify/Deezer
Do you use wifi and/or 4G? If so, do you use them always on? If not, how many hours average per day?
I assume you have location always off, right?
Disabling location service and GPS service affects only high accuracy location or does it also affects low accuracy (by data/wifi)?
Auto brightness on/off?
Fingerprint unlock on/off?
Sync always off?
S-Health, Google Fit or neither?
Any messaging app beside the SMS one?
I'm sorry for the wall of questions, but I want to find out the reason for the huge disparity between some SoT I've seen (7 and 8 hours) and mine (top 3 hours).
My usage is very different from many I've seen, i.e., I use Facebook Messenger + WhatsApp + Hangouts, Facebook + Insta + Snapchat, Reddit Sync syncing, Google Photos syncing, ~1 hour of Spotify/Deezer a day, wifi + 4G always on and fingerprint unlock, but is that a reason to have less 5 hours SoT than many we've seen in the S6's Battery thread?

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Yeah. It sucks it's Samsungs bloatware which ruins the experience, but well the hardware (and software) is capable of way better battery than most people are getting.

tiagovale2 said:
What do you use your device for, may I ask?
I mean:
What apps do you use the most? (especially interested about Facebook, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram, Google Photos and Spotify/Deezer
Do you use wifi and/or 4G? If so, do you use them always on? If not, how many hours average per day?
I assume you have location always off, right?
Disabling location service and GPS service affects only high accuracy location or does it also affects low accuracy (by data/wifi)?
Auto brightness on/off?
Fingerprint unlock on/off?
Sync always off?
S-Health, Google Fit or neither?
Any messaging app beside the SMS one?
I'm sorry for the wall of questions, but I want to find out the reason for the huge disparity between some SoT I've seen (7 and 8 hours) and mine (top 3 hours).
My usage is very different from many I've seen, i.e., I use Facebook Messenger + WhatsApp + Hangouts, Facebook + Insta + Snapchat, Reddit Sync syncing, Google Photos syncing, ~1 hour of Spotify/Deezer a day, wifi + 4G always on and fingerprint unlock, but is that a reason to have less 5 hours SoT than many we've seen in the S6's Battery thread?
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1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.
2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.
3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.
4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.
5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)
6. Fingerprint unlock is on.
7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.
8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.
9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.

I hope we het xposed soon, with xposed it is dat easier to control these wakelocks

Faspaiso said:
1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.
2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.
3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.
4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.
5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)
6. Fingerprint unlock is on.
7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.
8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.
9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.
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So, based on your answers:
1. Uninstalled Facebook and will give Tinfoil a try.
2. Disabled 4G, because I too get 1/5 or 2/5 constantly.
5. Installed Pixel Filter (trying it out at 75%).
As soon as I get home I'll buy Greenify and Tasker too.
As I never used Tasker I don't know this, but can I set a profile where Pixel Filter is enabled between certain time, e.g., 21h-09h?
I'll full charge at night and I'll see if it gets any better.
Thank you for the answers.

tiagovale2 said:
So, based on your answers:
1. Uninstalled Facebook and will give Tinfoil a try.
2. Disabled 4G, because I too get 1/5 or 2/5 constantly.
5. Installed Pixel Filter (trying it out at 75%).
As soon as I get home I'll buy Greenify and Tasker too.
As I never used Tasker I don't know this, but can I set a profile where Pixel Filter is enabled between certain time, e.g., 21h-09h?
I'll full charge at night and I'll see if it gets any better.
Thank you for the answers.
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Pixel Filter just got a tasker plugin, so yes you can.
Profile->Time->Set time->Task->Plugins->Pixel Filter->Configure it. It will take some time to get into tasker, but it can automate almost anything. Like I use mine to start music when headset is plugged, root kill Google Maps when closed (it runs in the background and drain battery) and so on.
It might be pretty dark at 75% tho. At the day I run 12-25% (tasker plugin with light sensor), disabled in full day light from the sun, and 50-75% at night.
Yeah, low cell connection kills battery a lot.
I don't think this alone will help a lot tho. Definitely a little. But I did all this on stock rom too (but I got 3-5 hours SoT tho) so still better than yours. But after I flashed XtreStoLite and got all the bloatware removed, my battery life began shining.
Greenify is free tho. Only needing it if you need to hibernate system apps. I did it, but you don't really need to.

Faspaiso said:
Pixel Filter just got a tasker plugin, so yes you can.
Profile->Time->Set time->Task->Plugins->Pixel Filter->Configure it. It will take some time to get into tasker, but it can automate almost anything. Like I use mine to start music when headset is plugged, root kill Google Maps when closed (it runs in the background and drain battery) and so on.
It might be pretty dark at 75% tho. At the day I run 12-25% (tasker plugin with light sensor), disabled in full day light from the sun, and 50-75% at night.
Yeah, low cell connection kills battery a lot.
I don't think this alone will help a lot tho. Definitely a little. But I did all this on stock rom too (but I got 3-5 hours SoT tho) so still better than yours. But after I flashed XtreStoLite and got all the bloatware removed, my battery life began shining.
Greenify is free tho. Only needing it if you need to hibernate system apps. I did it, but you don't really need to.
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75% seemed fine inside my office, it's quite dark in here. But yea, you're right. Once I get tasker I'll customize it properly.
And I thought Greenify existed in donation version only, it's good to know.
Do you have your S6 underclocked?

tiagovale2 said:
75% seemed fine inside my office, it's quite dark in here. But yea, you're right. Once I get tasker I'll customize it properly.
And I thought Greenify existed in donation version only, it's good to know.
Do you have your S6 underclocked?
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I had, then I read that it can be dump to underclock it too much, since a task takes longer to do, so it takes more time before the CPU gets into a idle state again.
Then it's better to get it done fast, so it can sleep again.
But at stock rom, all CPU speeds was used and 1500 was used pretty much of the time (CPU SPY). But after I flashed the debloated rom, it is on 400 MHz 98% of the time and 2% on 900 MHz (not counting deep sleep as a CPU state here) and the others are on less than a percentage. So something uses the CPU a lot on stock rom. I hit 1500 MHz by opening apps or browsing the internet at times.

Faspaiso said:
I had, then I read that it can be dump to underclock it too much, since a task takes longer to do, so it takes more time before the CPU gets into a idle state again.
Then it's better to get it done fast, so it can sleep again.
But at stock rom, all CPU speeds was used and 1500 was used pretty much of the time (CPU SPY). But after I flashed the debloated rom, it is on 400 MHz 98% of the time and 2% on 900 MHz (not counting deep sleep as a CPU state here) and the others are on less than a percentage. So something uses the CPU a lot on stock rom. I hit 1500 MHz by opening apps or browsing the internet at times.
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how do you make a s6 go to 3g

Tests prove 3g consumes more energy than 4g, it van (re)-establish connection faster and transfers data faster

Faspaiso said:
1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.
2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.
3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.
4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.
5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)
6. Fingerprint unlock is on.
7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.
8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.
9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.
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Could you please try a day with Auto Sync ON and let us know the results? (Standby and screen-ON time)
I would like to see how much that affects battery as I can not keep it off due to this having my work email as well configured.
Thanks in advance.

As I already have 20+ h on battery and 6+ SOT it will be interesting for me to try some of your tips.

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Could you please try a day with Auto Sync ON and let us know the results? (Standby and screen-ON time)
I would like to see how much that affects battery as I can not keep it off due to this having my work email as well configured.
Thanks in advance.
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I can try it tomorrow! Will give a review before go to bed tomorrow then!

Simplyeduardo said:
how do you make a s6 go to 3g
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Mobile data settings.

battery drains fast

I have SM-G950U and the battery is draining faster than it should, I got 68% charge but after 2 hours on standy and it's on power saving mode, I got 10% drain without doing anything. Does anybody knows what's happening?
10/19
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Before I went to bed last night, I flashed the XAA firmware and installed the gsam battery monitor, right now, I'm monitoring the battery performance and how long it takes to fully drain the battery

ajemnace said:
I have SM-G950U and the battery is draining faster than it should, I got 68% charge but after 2 hours on standy and it's on power saving mode, I got 10% drain without doing anything. Does anybody knows what's happening?
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Give GSam Battery Monitor from Playstore a go. It can give you an overview of whats using your juice.
Alternatively you can use Better BatteryStats: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
If you are rooted just install the XDAedition from post #2
If not rooted then follow instructions in post #4

Definitely some rogue app running in the background...

As mentioned above, use an app to monitor your battery. But I would also suggest installing an app to monitor your data usage, because sometimes your connections and data transfers are the culprits in battery drain.
Let us know what is the cause of this issue

RossTeagan said:
As mentioned above, use an app to monitor your battery. But I would also suggest installing an app to monitor your data usage, because sometimes your connections and data transfers are the culprits in battery drain.
Let us know what is the cause of this issue
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Ok, so I've been observing my battery for over 2 days now, and it seems that the problem is my cellular connection. I took the sim card out and noticed that the battery hasn't drained for several hours. But I wonder why my galaxy s8 is having this problem, the sim card I'm using on my galaxy s8 is the one that I've been using on my galaxy s7 for the past several months and I didn't experienced the same problem on my galaxy s8

Is your network signal weak?

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Ok, so I've been observing my battery for over 2 days now, and it seems that the problem is my cellular connection. I took the sim card out and noticed that the battery hasn't drained for several hours.
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This is a strange issue because usually battery drainage happens because of background updates and data transfer of certain apps.
Can you try turning off your mobile data connection and see if the drainage persists? You need to isolate the issue in order to identify it

can confirm that switching data to 2G network vs 3G/LTE has drastically improved my standby time, massively, especially if there is no 3g/LTE in the area, the phone hunts continually for 3G/LTE thus draining battery, but after switching to 2G no problems, just means that internet is damn slow...

You can try hibernating apps that you rarely use. Also, phones tend to seek LTE; if it happens to be that you are in an area with bad carrier coverage, turn off your LTE.
On the other hand, try to uninstall unused apps and turn off Always on Display.
edit: also, check the battery usage of your apps. In my case, Facebook, Tinder (lol), Spotify, Messenger, and Snapchat are the apps that consume my battery a lot. Device Maintenance usually prompts me that about an app excessively using the battery. Nevertheless, hibernating apps would definitely help.
ajemnace said:
I have SM-G950U and the battery is draining faster than it should, I got 68% charge but after 2 hours on standy and it's on power saving mode, I got 10% drain without doing anything. Does anybody knows what's happening?
10/19
-----UPDATE-----
Before I went to bed last night, I flashed the XAA firmware and installed the gsam battery monitor, right now, I'm monitoring the battery performance and how long it takes to fully drain the battery
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xRuisuCepi said:
You can try hibernating apps that you rarely use. Also, phones tend to seek LTE; if it happens to be that you are in an area with bad carrier coverage, turn off your LTE.
On the other hand, try to uninstall unused apps and turn off Always on Display.
edit: also, check the battery usage of your apps. In my case, Facebook, Tinder (lol), Spotify, Messenger, and Snapchat are the apps that consume my battery a lot. Device Maintenance usually prompts me that about an app excessively using the battery. Nevertheless, hibernating apps would definitely help.
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Do you know if the device would still be searching for LTE constantly if Wifi is connected? I'm just curious, I live in an apartment that has almost 0 data, and phones tend to pick and choose whether they want to be on 3G or LTE here. Definitely would be a drain, but I don't know if it matters if I'm on my wifi network..

baste07 said:
Is your network signal weak?
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No, I do have a very strong signal in my area. I'm getting an average download speed at 50mpbs and download speeds at 10mbps

xRuisuCepi said:
You can try hibernating apps that you rarely use. Also, phones tend to seek LTE; if it happens to be that you are in an area with bad carrier coverage, turn off your LTE.
On the other hand, try to uninstall unused apps and turn off Always on Display.
edit: also, check the battery usage of your apps. In my case, Facebook, Tinder (lol), Spotify, Messenger, and Snapchat are the apps that consume my battery a lot. Device Maintenance usually prompts me that about an app excessively using the battery. Nevertheless, hibernating apps would definitely help.
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I did a factory reset on my phone and let it just sit for the whole night. I left it with it a 100% charge and after 6 hours, it drained 20% of my battery

Jostian said:
can confirm that switching data to 2G network vs 3G/LTE has drastically improved my standby time, massively, especially if there is no 3g/LTE in the area, the phone hunts continually for 3G/LTE thus draining battery, but after switching to 2G no problems, just means that internet is damn slow...
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My carrier doesn't support 2g anymore. Also, switching to 3g still doesn't stop the battery drain

RossTeagan said:
This is a strange issue because usually battery drainage happens because of background updates and data transfer of certain apps.
Can you try turning off your mobile data connection and see if the drainage persists? You need to isolate the issue in order to identify it
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I turned my mobile date off and still got battery drain, and maybe a lot worst this time. I got 3% drainage for about 30 mins of standby. I have my wifi turned off

ajemnace said:
I turned my mobile date off and still got battery drain, and maybe a lot worst this time. I got 3% drainage for about 30 mins of standby. I have my wifi turned off
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Try to install a data manager/tracking app and another battery tracking app and see if you can get any tangible stats out of those.:fingers-crossed:

I think this may be my problem
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...950u1-sm-g950w-samsung-dream/ntt-docomo-japan
I don't know, I just found this website and found out that there are just few LTE/3G bands that my phone supports, could this be the reason why? anyone?

My usage for the last 2 days until I decided to put a SIM card and enable data

Wow, this thing's battery is inconsistent. Good one day, bad the next. Within 2h 26m, my phone dropped 12% with only 27:38 screen on time. I listened to maybe 4-5 songs in Google Play Music.
Anyone know why Samsung DeX Home would be taking up so much space, and why playing only a few songs *that have been downloaded* is causing a decent drain through GPM?
Not sure what the deal is with Android System Kernel, but it looks like the wakelock is from audioserver.

My S8+ battery performance was not very good since I started using the phone. Installed GSAM and granted it the needed permission via ADB. Recently battery drain has been terrible because mainly of Google Play services as well as FB. Battery only lasted for barely the whole day and sometimes I had to recharge during the evening.
After a lot of search and trial and error including disabling all Bloat ware apps using BK Disabler (as per a post at the beginning of this thread) and which caused more problems actually, I re-enabled all apps again. I installed Greenify with Agressive Doze enabled and Greenifying system apps enabled, but that didn't help either.
Finally, that's what I did and which gave me for the first day since I used the phone 4h15m of SOT and still 54% of my battery remaining!
1- Apps installed: Greenify, BK Disabler (with plug-in), GSAM and Play Services Info.
2- with BK Disabler I disabled all FB related apps (Facebook, FB App Installer, FB App Manager and FB services) and installed instead any 3rd party app like FB Lite, Swift FB, Metal or Friendly.
3- Disabled FB Messenger and installed Messenger Lite.
4- In Greenify, I disabled Agressive Doze and Greenify system apps.
5- I installed the latest Google Play Services Beta app version 12.2.09.
6- I am using Power Saving mode with FHD+ but will try tomorrow without it.
The battery drain was dramatically decreased knowing that I am using 3 email accounts (Gmail, Hotmail and Good for Enterprise), LinkedIn, Instagram, 2 What's app accounts via Parallel Space, Swift FB, Messenger Lite, Telegram as well a bunch of other apps. I am usually using 4G and Wi-Fi while at home with a lot of FB and web browsing.
Hope this post shed some light and help on battery drain issue with the S8+.
Ciao
Note: I had 8+ hours SOT yesterday!!
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LG G6 optimized for battery life

Hello, I am the new owner of the LG G6. I noticed a fairly large consumption of the battery in this phone, especially during idle
That is why I would like for myself and others to gather in this topic all the ways to improve the G6 performance in terms of battery life, which do not require rooting and are safe for the phone.
First, disable LDB (MLT in older versions) in hidden menu (LG 24/7 tracking of phone)
Search for "LDB function LG G6" in Google, there should be a theme on Reddit about MLT with exact instructions. Maybe someone below will drop the link, because I do not have such a possibility
What else can we do in the hidden LG menu to improve the battery life?
Second, turn off bloatwear
The easiest way is to go to settings > applications and disable (uninstall) applications that you do not use. However, this way you can not get rid of all the bloatware.
What are the other methods for improving the battery life of the LG G6?

Battery standby drain on my G6 (H870DS) is also poor. I lose between 1.5-2.5% an hour when the phone is just sat on the table. I have tried many things to reduce this without success. I have AOD off, battery saver on, gmail sync off, aeroplane mode on (no mobile/cell signal at home), Bluetooth off, WiFi off when screen off. I have removed/ hidden most of the bloatware using ADB commands and experimented with apps such as greenify and forcedoze but nothing seems to make any difference to the high battery consumption when the phone is idle. I have done 2-3 factory resets and nothing has improved. Gsam battery app tells me that a lot of battery usage is caused by android os, kernel and google play services. My conclusions are that android 7.0 Nougat has poor battery idle drain. LG will only update this to 8.0 Oreo eventually which might improve battery efficiency. Some people are reporting better standby performance with their G6’s so it might have something to do with which model/regions firmware you have. I also have the latest TWN firmware and this improved idle drain slightly. I shall wait for android 8.0 Oreo then factory reset and probably be disappointed. Great phone apart from poor battery standby and not having a notification led.

The most amusing thing I've noticed is that the Always-On Display has virtually no battery consumption. Whether it is running or not, I had the same high consumption on idle.
Tomorrow morning I will check whether turning off LDB (MLT) gives something.
I am afraid of updating to Android 8.0, because reviews of other phones after the update are extremely different, some say that the battery life has deteriorated, and others that have improved slightly

I too have my doubts that android 8.0 will be bring any improvement to battery standby drain so will be waiting to see other people’s experiences before I update.

This is also fun, because for the same type of device people report different effects of upgrades. So usually Android upgrade is a high risk game

It seems that turning off the LDB (MLT) feature has reduced the battery consumption in idle 2x, now the phone uses about 0.25% per hour.

Very interesting, that's the first time I've actually heard or read something about MLT/LDB. I wonder what both stands for and also what's its literal function. Polish forums are flooded with threads about "LG's spying app!".
I gave it a try and turned it off. Also I've turned off logging services too. After rebooting, I've removed two apps that are mentioned here and had to force-reboot again as "MLT has stopped" started popping up after a minute or two and it prevented me from doing anything on the phone
Hopefully it will improve battery life... even slightly, but improvement is improvement. For me, battery life is the weakest point of this phone (damned Android 7.0 and its idle battery drain bug)...
RAM is not so important for me, 4 gigs are enough and I've never experienced any slowdowns even with 30 tabs opened in Chrome

Someone on Reddit suggested disabling background running services for apps that use it for no real reason. This can be done by following:
Device settings > Smart doctor > Tap Memory > Tap overflow menu > Tap conserve memory
Selecting the apps that you want to not run in the background and setting the toggle to ON will help. Maybe. Ish.

romcio47 said:
I gave it a try and turned it off. Also I've turned off logging services too. After rebooting, I've removed two apps that are mentioned here and had to force-reboot again as "MLT has stopped" started popping up after a minute or two and it prevented me from doing anything on the phone
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Let me know what effects have turned off logging and uninstalling these applications. It is a pity that these applications can only be uninstalled on the root device.
adaimespechip said:
Someone on Reddit suggested disabling background running services for apps that use it for no real reason. This can be done by following:
Device settings > Smart doctor > Tap Memory > Tap overflow menu > Tap conserve memory
Selecting the apps that you want to not run in the background and setting the toggle to ON will help. Maybe. Ish.
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Thanks for the hint. I just did it. Too bad there are so few applications that I want them to not work in the background

adaimespechip said:
Device settings > Smart doctor > Tap Memory > Tap overflow menu > Tap conserve memory
Selecting the apps that you want to not run in the background and setting the toggle to ON will help. Maybe. Ish.
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I will try it too, thanks for the hint.
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Let me know what effects have turned off logging and uninstalling these applications. It is a pity that these applications can only be uninstalled on the root device.
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Manually turning MLT off should be enough, I removed these apps just in case but I don't think it makes MLT "double off" as it's already killed in service menu.
I will do some checks and report in few days, stay tuned.

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Can you tell me how, step by step, you have disabled the logs?

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Can you tell me how, step by step, you have disabled the logs?
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I don't have my phone with me but as far as I remember the steps are almost exactly the same as for MLT/LDB disable.
Only you click the button about logging instead of MLT, one or two rows below. Then you have to tap "disable" button until every logging service below is set to "Disabled".

romcio47 said:
I don't have my phone with me but as far as I remember the steps are almost exactly the same as for MLT/LDB disable.
Only you click the button about logging instead of MLT, one or two rows below. Then you have to tap "disable" button until every logging service below is set to "Disabled".
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This option is called Log Services above the LDB function in the hidden menu. Unfortunately all these services I have already disabled :/

Another hint. Make sure that the built-in flash does not light when receiving calls and messages. You may not notice it, because the phone is always on the back.
This can be turned off: Settings> Accessibility> listening> Alarming flash
Tomorrow I will check how much battery I saved

My idle drain was over 60mAh per hour and over a day this was more than used by the screen. The Greenify aggressive doze helps, as does restricting mobile data in the background plus disabling all the bloat. Adding in the LDB hack has reduced idle drain to less than 40mAh per hour, not perfect but much better. To me it looks like LG thought the larger battery meant they could turn on all their rubbish and we wouldn't notice...

Going back to the subject, disabling the flash, acting as the notification light, did not bring about much improvement in battery life.
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My idle drain was over 60mAh per hour and over a day this was more than used by the screen. The Greenify aggressive doze helps, as does restricting mobile data in the background plus disabling all the bloat. Adding in the LDB hack has reduced idle drain to less than 40mAh per hour, not perfect but much better. To me it looks like LG thought the larger battery meant they could turn on all their rubbish and we wouldn't notice...
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Every big smartphone manufacturer throws a lot of his ****. The most important thing is to optimize your Android overlay for battery saving. Not every manufacturer handles it satisfactorily

https://youtu.be/iPpuYxJUGro
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dalmm said:
https://youtu.be/iPpuYxJUGro
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Thanks for the link. Some interesting information was in this video. The most interesting, because I've never seen it before, was to turn off Bluetooth scanning, which works even when Bluetooth is turned off.
To do this, go to settings> location> three dots> scanning> Bluetooth scanning

It seems that there are no hard and fast rules about this. Without any modification whatsoever on my G6, idle goes about 1% every 2 hours or so, even with light use. I'm running the v11d update of Oct 21. The update improved battery life that was already good. At the end of a workday, with bluetooth active and light to moderate use and a trip with Waze I typically have 75% left. It may be a regional issue with firmwares running slightly different apps in the background depending on where you are, or maybe difference in cell tower distances-- with a weak signal the phone radio powers up higher. Maybe LDB isn't used in my region (Middle East/Israel)

Are people using apps such as greenify, force doze, hibernation manager or clean master and if so what benefits in standby drain are they experiencing? Are these apps any good and do they create any problems of their own? From personal experience removing QuickMemo using adb commands improved my battery standby drain a little. What changes should be made in developer options to improve battery life such as animations or limit background processes etc. Nougat is set up to manage battery life in a certain way, so I just want to make sure I don’t make any changes or install any 3rd party apps that make my battery life even worse. What I have come to realise is that the G6 and the snapdragon 821 are not set up for efficient battery standby. Previously, I had a vodaphone smart ultra 6 (rebadge zte blade) with a 3000mah battery on marshmallow that would last upto 4 days on a single charge!