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Check out this article from Android Headlines,
http://androidheadlines.com/2011/02...pril-google-kills-2-3-gingerbread-update.html
Pretty big news no?
Only if your aren't rooted and are waiting on an official gb update. Your wait just got a little longer
Sent from my HTC EVO
Looks like the only change is to make dual core apps compatible with single core phones
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Pretty big news no?
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Pretty big unconfirmed rumor at this point but it wouldn't be surprising after what happened with 2.0 and 2.1.
I find that a little concerning, unless the only actual difference relates to single/dual core compatibility. The reason I rolled back from Gingerbread to Froyo was because some of my apps weren't Gingerbread ready. I hope the difference isn't significant enough to cause a gap like this.
That's interesting to say the least, not exactly welcome news to hear of google telling phone manufacturers not to update.
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That's interesting to say the least, not exactly welcome news to hear of google telling phone manufacturers not to update.
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My feeling exactly... i mean why would u do that???
Is it really that big of a deal? Seriously we will have before any manufacturer upgrades to it and April is really not that far off. I just feel sorry for the CM team and others that have been endlessly working on GB Roms. I see this upgrade as a good thing and it says some of the elements of Honeycomb will be brought to the 2.4 smartphone version. Why complain if there is nothing you can do about it but wait patiently and be happy you have a great phone. Google, HTC nor Sprint are obligated to update your phone, so just be happy that they do.
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Is it really that big of a deal? Seriously we will have before any manufacturer upgrades to it and April is really not that far off. I just feel sorry for the CM team and others that have been endlessly working on GB Roms. I see this upgrade as a good thing and it says some of the elements of Honeycomb will be brought to the 2.4 smartphone version. Why complain if there is nothing you can do about it but wait patiently and be happy you have a great phone. Google, HTC nor Sprint are obligated to update your phone, so just be happy that they do.
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If google tells htc to not update to 2.3, and 2.4 isn't due out till april, then that pretty much guarantees that the Evo will reach it's eol on froyo. It still take a couple months after the updates released for it to be used
With a source like Pocket-lint it has to be "who the hell are they?"
No, really. I've never heard of these guys.
You wanna buy a bridge?
Well I heard they are killing the 2.4 release to solve the multi-screen issues, by releasing Android 2.5 "troufles" in July. So named because of the layers of screen, not shrooms ( did you get that big "G" ? )
And our long wait gets longer.
I'm LoL'ing at people who blindly believe the OP.
What the tittle says
Yes there is, we'll get it in 2 months period.
Any ideas why so long? Sony already got it and they are skinned as well as others are close behind like Samsung with their beta tests and htc why is this one taking so long to push since it is almost pure?
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Any ideas why so long? Sony already got it and they are skinned as well as others are close behind like Samsung with their beta tests and htc why is this one taking so long to push since it is almost pure?
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Sony have a much bigger dev team, plus sony has a large community of devs and testers that work for free since they release all their code to open source.
But is this not like the purest of Android ... On paper it should be just plug test and play for the A1?
In principle, yes. But I going by the apparent fact that Google isn't in charge of software but xiaomi is, my guess is that is the reason why there is no oreo yet...
I presume. I've heard good things for this company let's see how this phone will hold up to what people say
I think that the Andorid One topic is quite new for them (too) and they just have to collect their experience first so I'm pretty sure for the following updates they will get more and more routine so this is just the beginning....
With Android One, doesn't Google control the OS updates like in Pixel. We get security fixes along with Pixel
Android one suppose to be the first device after pixel and nexus to get Oreo.
Devices are getting beta version or something of Oreo.
And we are just waiting ,
Don't want to rush anything but atleast a official comment on the Oreo for android one would be grate...
They says by the end of this year,its mean December,calm down
I have a friend working in Mi China and he says their Target is indeed for December 2017. So let's just all chill out till then.
From what I guess Google isn't really controlling the updates of mi a1. STOCK android doesn't support capacitive nav bars and a IR sensor too. Moreover there are dual cameras on this phone. So mi has to so tweaks to accommodate all this. That's why it must be taking some time.
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Sony have a much bigger dev team, plus sony has a large community of devs and testers that work for free since they release all their code to open source.
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In principle, yes. But I going by the apparent fact that Google isn't in charge of software but xiaomi is, my guess is that is the reason why there is no oreo yet...
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There is nothing like this. Android one is a program which ensures every updates not faster updates. So keep calm. They will release it by 31st Dec.
The update chain is not that what u r thinking right now.
Google - Processor manufacturers - OEMs - Beta testers - OEM - Public Release.
As far as what I've seen and heard on mi community discussions some guy had posted a pic of his discussion with one of the representatives from Xiaomi. It said that they werent sure on when they are going to release the update as they haven't finalized the date yet. They said that it could be in late january 2018
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As far as what I've seen and heard on mi community discussions some guy had posted a pic of his discussion with one of the representatives from Xiaomi. It said that they werent sure on when they are going to release the update as they haven't finalized the date yet. They said that it could be in late january 2018
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If a random representative said that, must be true
I would give them 2-3 days more before I start having my doubts . They've said by end of December ..so no point rushing unless . Just hope there aren't any major bugs in the beta
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The problem is the heavily doctored version of android that Xiaomi have included with this device and the inbuilt spyware.
Still no Oreo
Still no Kernel.
Not pure/stock Android.
THE TIME FOR ACTION IS NOW. - we should not stand for this any longer.
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Looking to buy this device, can you tell me the spyware you have come across.
So someone asked on Twitter about Oreo update and Xiaomi says "Its coming really soon!"
Source: https://twitter.com/xiaomi/status/944922239643684864
Nice thread about Oreo Kappa
Enviado desde mi Mi A1 mediante Tapatalk
Why couldn't samsung simply rip out the spen junk from the note rom and release it on our phones?
Because they're working on Oreo
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Because they're working on Oreo
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That's not a valid excuse, 7.1 came out in oct 2016, 7 months later the s8 was released with an os that came out in august 2016.
These are not midrange phones, we deserve better.
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That's not a valid excuse, 7.1 came out in oct 2016, 7 months later the s8 was released with an os that came out in august 2016.
These are not midrange phones, we deserve better.
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So what is your complaint exactly? You're angry about the fact that we didn't get a rom then, even though we're getting the latest version now? You knew about it, bought it, then came here to complain about it 7 months or so afterwards?
What was so important that changed from 7.0 to 7.1? I have a feeling you're just looking to whine about anything possible
My complaint is pretty clear, not sure why you can't see it.
When Android 7.1 was released, it was seen as a Nexus/Pixel exclusive with pixel-only exclusives. It's more surprising that the Note 8 did come with Android 7.1 than the S8 not getting an update. Most skinned manufacturers decided early on to skip 7.1 in favor of 8.0
Why didn't we get 6.1?
Samsung releases the major builds and frequent updates. We don't need stuff that's more suited for a pixel. If you're that concerned, buy a pixel.
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Why didn't we get 6.1?
Samsung releases the major builds and frequent updates. We don't need stuff that's more suited for a pixel. If you're that concerned, buy a pixel.
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Except Samsung did get the 6.0.1 update for devices.
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Except Samsung did get the 6.0.1 update for devices.
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I had the S6 Edge +, that was long ago but I don't recall getting it for that device. Either way, obviously wasn't a big deal update
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So what is your complaint exactly? You're angry about the fact that we didn't get a rom then, even though we're getting the latest version now? You knew about it, bought it, then came here to complain about it 7 months or so afterwards?
What was so important that changed from 7.0 to 7.1? I have a feeling you're just looking to whine about anything possible
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Do we get 8.1 ?
Samsung only focus on main releases, 7.0 of samsung has all the stuff of the pure 7.1 with it's own UI
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Do we get 8.1 ?
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What's in the 8.1 that you'll be sorely missing?
If you expect every point update, get a Pixel.
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What's in the 8.1 that you'll be sorely missing?
If you expect every point update, get a Pixel.
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It was a only question because as you mentioned earlier that the latest version we will get. I do not miss anything
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It was a only question because as you mentioned earlier that the latest version we will get. I do not miss anything
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Sorry I should have been more clear and misunderstood. By the time that 8.1 was out development on 8 would have already started.
Short answer. Do you seriously expect them to complile thousands of packages all over again for a version that changes basically nothing, only to do it all over again 2 months later for a major release?
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Short answer. Do you seriously expect them to complile thousands of packages all over again for a version that changes basically nothing, only to do it all over again 2 months later for a major release?
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Yes, that's their job, they dont get to take a year off after compiling one version of android. If they can release x.1 updates on the note they can do the same on the s8.
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Why couldn't samsung simply rip out the spen junk from the note rom and release it on our phones?
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I had the S7 Edge, that was long ago but I don't recall getting it for that device. Either way, obviously wasn't a big deal update
Sorry Guys...
If you were hoping to get updated to EMUI / OREO 8.0 in Quarter One...
Like Huawei / Honor PROMISED!
Then it saddens me to inform you it's not coming until at least Quarter Two of 2018 now...
https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-7x-honor-8-emui-8-q2-2018-honor-france/
Are you sticking with the 7X now?
I personally don't like companies that lie to their customers.. They should have never thrown Quarter One out there if they new they were not going to meet target.
It's the "Budget Phone" of the 2017 lineup.. but this is still a slap in the face.
It's still coming just a little late.
You sound like a junkie desperate for a fix.
It missed the target by a few weeks a month or more there's bigger things to worry about.
Compare it to the recent botch job of a update by Xiaomi.
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Sorry Guys...
If you were hoping to get updated to EMUI / OREO 8.0 in Quarter One...
Like Huawei / Honor PROMISED!
Then it saddens me to inform you it's not coming until at least Quarter Two of 2018 now...
https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-7x-honor-8-emui-8-q2-2018-honor-france/
Are you sticking with the 7X now?
I personally don't like companies that lie to their customers.. They should have never thrown Quarter One out there if they new they were not going to meet target.
It's the "Budget Phone" of the 2017 lineup.. but this is still a slap in the face.
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Got fed up waiting for update...now am just waiting for redmi note 5 on 14th feb....first need to get rid of this goddam device
It's not that bad.We are getting it just a bit late .I personally think it's better to wait than getting a totally messy miui 9 device.EMUI is much better and offers better customisation than MIUI.
They Lied.. Period.
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Got fed up waiting for update...now am just waiting for redmi note 5 on 14th feb....first need to get rid of this goddam device
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Now Huawei / Honor Has Shown Their True Colors....
THIS IS THE BOTTOM TIER UNIT.. AND NOT WORTH ANY REAL EFFORT.. In their eyes.
There is not a Gosh Darn Reason this should not have gotten Oreo by now when the View 10 lanuched with it.. and now, they are saying it may not be here until JUNE!
It's because it a $199.99 phone... that's why.
I personally do not like being lied to.. I went through this with ZTE.. promising 7.0 and giving nothing.
I do believe they also promised the 6X Nougat.. and delayed and delayed it.. ( Did it ever get it? )
And Finally,
What Does This Do To The Development Community ?
There Is No Nougat Image Even Released ! and it's been over 60 days since this device went on sale !
There Sure As Hell Ain't Going To Be An Oreo Image Released at this pace UNTIL July / August !!!
Can't create any ROM's without any Images! Stripped or Otherwise.
Project Treble.......................................Down The Drain........... now, for at least several months.
If Ever.
Do You See ANY Developer's Waiting Around For This Device ?
Not when the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5, Moto G6 Plus, OnePlus 6 Hell..... EVEN HONOR"S OWN VIEW 10! are right there and will have STRONG Developmental Support behind each and every one of them.
All of you that rooted.... you did the right thing... may as well have fun with it if you are going to keep it (Just don't muck it up so you can at least sell it at some point)
Even though it's feature packed (in my eyes) for a budget device Honor is just not "Honorable"
That means A LOT to me. And you're telling us you can't get the final tweaks right within the next 50+ days???
Then you are not putting forth much effort to meet target on your bottom of the line device.
And the competition I mentioned is just around the corner.. and they WILL LAUNCH with Oreo 8.0.. and get TREMENDOUS Development Support... with or without the advantages of Project Treble...
The 7X 's Loyalty Is About To Be Tested.
Doesnt bother me actually... id I NEED Oreo, ill likely just hop on a custom rom (Already got a beta AOSP Oreo out) but happy with 7 for now. I came form the V8 Blade Pro so waiting another Q or 2 isn't that bad.
I'd rather wait for a finished product as opposed to getting a half assed rushed disaster tbh.
I find it disappointing that there is not a full firmware available for download.
Are they delaying Oreo for other reasons? They should at least have the firmware for Nougat.
How did they install from the factory? Seems a little lame.
When did they promise a Q1 release? Cause any time I've reached out to customer service, all they told me was "soon." I know there was some XDA article about it back in like September, but I never really determined if that was anything more than hearsay.
Honor US has said they're shooting for a release "by April", which technically does not rule out a Feb/March release (though I doubt it will come before April).
It's Not That Good..
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You sound like a junkie desperate for a fix.
It missed the target by a few weeks a month or more there's bigger things to worry about..
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And you sound Delusional.. Just Like ISheep..
You've been lied to.... If you're good with that sheep'on..
kiran G. said:
Got fed up waiting for update...now am just waiting for redmi note 5 on 14th feb....first need to get rid of this goddam device
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EXACTLY BOSS..
I don't take it well being LIED to by a company.. Bargin Basement phone or not.. if you are UNAWARE of whats going on in Your Own Labs.. and have NO REAL IDEA when you can have a project THAT YOU PROMISED would be completed within a given time frame then, STFU and don't throw Wild Completion Dates out there that you unable to keep. Honor Oreo works on the View 10.. but NOT on the 7x ???
IT'S RIDICULOUS. :angel:
And you're right.. If the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 OR the Moto G6 Plus looks as good as the renders... with the support they will get WORLDWIDE this thing is out the door.
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Doesnt bother me actually... id I NEED Oreo, ill likely just hop on a custom rom (Already got a beta AOSP Oreo out) but happy with 7 for now. I came form the V8 Blade Pro so waiting another Q or 2 isn't that bad.
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Custom ROM ???
WHERE???
I don't see ANY ROM's here on XDA... Where Is This Beta ???
Is it some hack in someone's basement ???
SOURCE FOR DOWNLOAD PLEASE ? www._______________________.com ??? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
I somewhat agree though I'm not too ticked off. This is a very solid phone, but by the time we get 8.0 (April apparently) Android P will already be in the works. Well, just know that I'll most likely never purchase another Honor device again. The Moto G6 Plus is looking really attractive though, I might ditch the 7x for the G6 this coming summer.
Go look in the Roms, kernels forum, it's there.
I'd like to see a list of which companies have NOT missed delivery dates at some point for their updates along the way. It isn't unusual at all, and doesn't really meet the criteria of a lie in my opinion, but everyone can take it how they like. I've managed projects before so I know that timelines slip for many reasons, very rarely is it becuase of a desire to decieve anyone. But I can't ascribe motive to them, I can only see what is happening. Anyway, sorry it has apparrently been a life-destorying moment for some to hear this news, but I agree with many on here that I would rather get a stable release even if it slips a little bit. Being in the USA I know I'll get it last anyway, so it isn't something I'm checking for every day anyway.
Dude chill a little man damn. Big deal, things get delayed, **** happens. And there is a rom posted in the rom section of this phone. How could you miss it when you post in almost every thread when anyone talks about rooting their phone. It's right here man,
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/development/openkirin-aosp-8-0-honor-7x-t3746257
It's not by "some hack in their basement" it's posted by OpenKirin which is a known development group. Sometimes you sound like you freaking work for Huawei and now you sound like you work for their competitors. Phones been out like two months or so and you're expecting to be flooded with updates and whatnot.
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And you sound Delusional.. Just Like ISheep..
You've been lied to.... If you're good with that sheep'on..
EXACTLY BOSS..
I don't take it well being LIED to by a company.. Bargin Basement phone or not.. if you are UNAWARE of whats going on in Your Own Labs.. and have NO REAL IDEA when you can have a project THAT YOU PROMISED would be completed within a given time frame then, STFU and don't throw Wild Completion Dates out there that you unable to keep. Honor Oreo works on the View 10.. but NOT on the 7x ???
IT'S RIDICULOUS. :angel:
And you're right.. If the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 OR the Moto G6 Plus looks as good as the renders... with the support they will get WORLDWIDE this thing is out the door.
Custom ROM ???
WHERE???
I don't see ANY ROM's here on XDA... Where Is This Beta ???
Is it some hack in someone's basement ???
SOURCE FOR DOWNLOAD PLEASE ? www._______________________.com ??? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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That ROM is a WIP with all 3 cameras broken and BT disabled. If you chose to flash that ROM and haven't made a stock back up then you're SOL.
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That ROM is a WIP with all 3 cameras broken and BT disabled. If you chose to flash that ROM and haven't made a stock back up then you're SOL.
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Give it time of few weeks. You will get a stable aosp 8.0 from openkirin.:laugh:
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Give it time of few weeks. You will get a stable aosp 8.0 from openkirin.:laugh:
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Hopefully.
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I find it disappointing that there is not a full firmware available for download.
Are they delaying Oreo for other reasons? They should at least have the firmware for Nougat.
How did they install from the factory? Seems a little lame.
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Amen Brother
I've been saying that for a while now.
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When did they promise a Q1 release? Cause any time I've reached out to customer service, all they told me was "soon." I know there was some XDA article about it back in like September, but I never really determined if that was anything more than hearsay.
Honor US has said they're shooting for a release which technically does not rule out a Feb/March release (though I doubt it will come before April).
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Unreal..
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I somewhat agree though I'm not too ticked off. This is a very solid phone, but by the time we get 8.0 (April apparently) Android P will already be in the works. Well, just know that I'll most likely never purchase another Honor device again. The Moto G6 Plus is looking really attractive though, I might ditch the 7x for the G6 this coming summer.
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Man.. I'm with you on the Moto G6 Plus!
It may cost $30.00 to $60.00 more.. But as we are now seeing here You Get What You Pay For.
I had a Moto G5 Plus screen was just too small for me but, Developer Support almost from day one was OFF THE HOOK! Great Camera's as well. And now with the styling catching up to the times... Oh Man! :good:
But have you seen the renders of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 ? Most Sexy Sub-$300.00 device on the planet..
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Dude chill a little man damn. Big deal, things get delayed, **** happens. Sometimes you sound like you freaking work for Huawei and now you sound like you work for their competitors. Phones been out like two months or so and you're expecting to be flooded with updates and whatnot.
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I EXPECT NOT TO BE LIED TO... It may mean nothing to you.. because you are so Enamoured with this device.. and that's your call..
And, since you have hung on to my every word.. you should know.. This Is My Call on the 7x..
Other Honor devices have it.. The View 10 Launched with it.
This is the "Step-Child" phone in their lineup.. and now you are seeing it's true place in the pecking order..
Ask Yourself.. Does That Bother You? Being Last In Line Behind Close Doors.. But Being Touted As An Equal In Public.. OUCH!
And Yes! I'll Take A Job With Either!
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And you sound Delusional.. Just Like ISheep..
You've been lied to.... If you're good with that sheep'on..
EXACTLY BOSS..
I don't take it well being LIED to by a company.. Bargin Basement phone or not.. if you are UNAWARE of whats going on in Your Own Labs.. and have NO REAL IDEA when you can have a project THAT YOU PROMISED would be completed within a given time frame then, STFU and don't throw Wild Completion Dates out there that you unable to keep. Honor Oreo works on the View 10.. but NOT on the 7x ???
IT'S RIDICULOUS. :angel:
And you're right.. If the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 OR the Moto G6 Plus looks as good as the renders... with the support they will get WORLDWIDE this thing is out the door.
Custom ROM ???
WHERE???
I don't see ANY ROM's here on XDA... Where Is This Beta ???
Is it some hack in someone's basement ???
SOURCE FOR DOWNLOAD PLEASE ? www._______________________.com ??? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Here you are!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/development/openkirin-aosp-8-0-honor-7x-t3746257
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I somewhat agree though I'm not too ticked off. This is a very solid phone, but by the time we get 8.0 (April apparently) Android P will already be in the works. Well, just know that I'll most likely never purchase another Honor device again. The Moto G6 Plus is looking really attractive though, I might ditch the 7x for the G6 this coming summer.
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Do u expect the Moto G6 Plus to get newer versions of Android faster? The Moto G5 Plus released with Nougat and has never recieved the Oreo update. The patches date back to October or November whereas the Honor 7X is recieving the Feb security patches on some units.
I don't really get why r people freaking out abt this. U paid $199 which is a great value, so what if an update got delayed by a month or 2. Samsung has done this, Motorola has done it too many times to even count.
Oreo 8.0 has a bad rep for being unstable which is making it hard for OEMs to roll the update out.
And finally u can't expect a company to give equal emphasis to a BUDGET phone and to a FLAGSHIP phone. Thats the reality. Pick up any samsumg mid Ranger and u'll find that the Honor 7X has recieved more updates, the same goes for anything from Motorola. The Honor View 10 is reported to cost around $400-$450 which is twice the cost of the Honor 7X.
There is the argument abt Dev support but I can guarantee atleast 90-95% ppl using Android don't care abt ROMs or rooting.
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Is anyone else bothered by this? For a new company and new product you would think they would be up to date with firmware releases. Most other phones already have 13 or will get it this year, whereas we will have to wait maybe until June next year. Not impressed
Bummer, but not surprised
It will better to focus on bug issues more than Android versions
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Bummer, but not surprised
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Yup pretty pathetic that a new phone is already out of date lol. As long as Carl got Pei'd
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It will better to focus on bug issues more than Android versions
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Why not both?
SimMind28 said:
Is anyone else bothered by this? For a new company and new product you would think they would be up to date with firmware releases. Most other phones already have 13 or will get it this year, whereas we will have to wait maybe until June next year. Not impressed
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The Android 12 version of Nothing OS still needs work and stability.
It's not reasonable to switch to Android 13 until version 12 is completely reliable.
For info, the stable version of Android 13 has only been available for a few days, so please be patient
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The Android 12 version of Nothing OS still needs work and stability.
It's not reasonable to switch to Android 13 until version 12 is completely reliable.
For info, the stable version of Android 13 has only been available for a few days, so please be patient
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Why couldn't they release the phone with stable firmware? Instead they release a glitchy phone and early adopters get to be beta testers except we dont get paid for it. At least Carl gets Pei'd
Maybe nothing Paranoid android will come with android 13...
nothing is looking to recruit several android devs currently.
for android 13 let's let a few months pass for the majority of problems to be fixed on the vanilla version of android, for the moment there are still big issues
Why didn't they recruit a big enough team before releasing the phone so all the issues could have been fixed before the phone was released?
What's the point? A few changes like icons ? We already have icon pack. I prefer having a bugless Android 12 than a full of bugs Android 13. Be patient, it requires work. If you're not, then do your own Rom based on Android 13 and share it with us. That's a one year company. It's already a miracle to sell a smartphone that fast. Being impatient isn't always a good thing man
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What's the point? A few changes like icons ? We already have icon pack. I prefer having a bugless Android 12 than a full of bugs Android 13. Be patient, it requires work. If you're not, then do your own Rom based on Android 13 and share it with us. That's a one year company. It's already a miracle to sell a smartphone that fast. Being impatient isn't always a good thing man
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That's a flawed argument. Have you ever watched a movie and thought it was bad? You're not allowed to have an opinion on a movie unless you become a director and actor and release your own movie using that logic.
Sounds like a coping strategy tbh
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That's a flawed argument. Have you ever watched a movie and thought it was bad? You're not allowed to have an opinion on a movie unless you become a director and actor and release your own movie using that logic.
Sounds like a coping strategy tbh
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Maybe, but by choosing a phone from a brand new company, you can't except to have the same speed as company like samsung or xiaomi. Talking about them, when you see that they update to next versions but that they are full of issues, I prefer not to deal with those issues. If you wanted to always have the latest version before everyone, why didn't you choose a Pixel then? You have the Pixel 6A for the same price
I'm not saying that Android 13 not before 2023 is a good new, the point is, if we have Android 13 in february but far more stable than in october with bugs everywhere, then I don't care considering the few changes between 12 and 13. On a day to day use, you won't even notice the difference
Very disappointed, expected better . Might sell and buy something else
SimMind28 said:
That's a flawed argument. Have you ever watched a movie and thought it was bad? You're not allowed to have an opinion on a movie unless you become a director and actor and release your own movie using that logic.
Sounds like a coping strategy tbh
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You're reacting like someone who wants to have everything right away and above all without any problems, and that's just not how it works in the smartphone world, especially for a start-up.
I'm not defending Nothing in any way, but I must admit that this reaction makes me wonder.
That it's Samsung with an R&D office and huge resources that ends up with smartphones that have recurring bugs and critical problems too.
I think that now we expect too much from smartphone or electronics manufacturers.
There will never be 100% reliability, it's impossible!
Have you ever been part of a team that develops roms, applications?
If so, you should know that as soon as a problem is solved, another one arises, more or less important.
So you have to go through the whole command line to see the possible error.
All this represents time, money, and a lot.
I disagree with your comment that Nothing should have had a bigger dev team.
I think you were on OnePlus before, and also criticised OP for their dev teams!
You knew when you bought a Nothing(1) phone that you would have bugs for sure!
I remind you that it was the future buyers of the Nothing Phone(1) who put pressure on Nothing to release their smartphone quickly, but I can confirm that the communication model chosen (the Nothing Hype) is also a factor and has its negative side, and I got caught up in the hype too....
So yes, the Phone(1) is a smartphone with a number of bugs, but I think it's a smartphone that will soon be reliable.
So be patient and forgiving with Nothing.
Thanks and sorry if my comment may seem harsh, but I think that you will be ok with me (I hope )
Can I suggest you to read this news from xda about the Nothing timeline for Android 13
Nothing delivers updated timeline for Android 13
I'm also very disappointed. 1.1.2 was already good enough. I find no deal Breaking bugs in ether 1.1.2 or 1.1.3. I wish they'd rather start developing android 13 directly instead of wasting time on software that is already ok enough.
Id say its a big DEPENDS if they polish the heck out of it iron out as many bugs and make it super smooth like 12 is on this phone id say its well worth the wait cuz no point in android 13 day one if its gonna lag crash etc like there's no tomorrow
Rom developers have a better chance of getting android 13 out for the nothing phone before nothing actually does
In the dev chat yesterday on Discord they said a beta would be released before the end of the year.
lexcyn said:
In the dev chat yesterday on Discord they said a beta would be released before the end of the year.
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Still not a public release of android 13 for the nothing phone though. At this rate the phone is going to be behind. Other companies are already working on their version of android 13 which will be released way before nothing even starts working on android 13.