Flashing 64-bits custom roms - Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers

The thing is I still have a somewhat old custom rom installed, so it's still 32-bits. Do I need to do something in particular before proceeding to flash any of the most recent 64-bits roms? Also, is it necessary to flash a 64-bits TWRP first?
I know this might actually be a silly question, but I just wanted to make sure before I end up with a bootloop or something. Thank you

Maximo22 said:
The thing is I still have a somewhat old custom rom installed, so it's still 32-bits. Do I need to do something in particular before proceeding to flash any of the most recent 64-bits roms? Also, is it necessary to flash a 64-bits TWRP first?
I know this might actually be a silly question, but I just wanted to make sure before I end up with a bootloop or something. Thank you
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Just update to the latest TWRP and clean flash any new ROM, don't just dirty flash it.

Use the official TWRP it supports both 64 and 32 bit
I recommend pixel experience and alize EAS

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Help needed for upgrade

Hi there,
I'm using 4.4.2 wanamlite 2.9 rom on a i9505 with twrp 2.8.
Recently I encountered lot of problems like modem not working properly, rebooting, videos playing in slowmo, no sound etc... weird stuff...
I'm convinced to upgrade to (lets say) marshmallow (any custom rom) but I dunno how to do it properly. So here my questions:
- should I flash the stock rom and start again with root / custom rom etc? Or...
- should I upgrade with odin to stock modem and bootloader first, and after that install a custom rom via twrp? Which way is the correct one?
Btw. Should I upgrade to lolli, marsh or 7.x? Dunno whats better. I'm using touchwiz with xposed framework. I dont need tw but i find xposed very helpful. Any advice or link to guides?
Thanx
Upgrade the individual components. In your case, that means recovery, bootloader, and modem via Odin. Your copy of TWRP is ancient and the newer versions of Android need a newer version of TWRP to properly flash them. Once you've upgraded the components, download any Android 6.x ROM for your device - since you want Xposed - and flash it via TWRP. Android 7.x ROMs are available for your device, but Xposed does not work on them, and I don't expect it to work any time soon.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Upgrade the individual components. In your case, that means recovery, bootloader, and modem via Odin. Your copy of TWRP is ancient and the newer versions of Android need a newer version of TWRP to properly flash them. Once you've upgraded the components, download any Android 6.x ROM for your device - since you want Xposed - and flash it via TWRP. Android 7.x ROMs are available for your device, but Xposed does not work on them, and I don't expect it to work any time soon.
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Thanx Stephron.
Yesterday I updated via .img the recovery (TWRP 3.2).
Now I'll look for bootloader and modem. Should I use the stock ones or are on xda some threads with better modems and bootloaders?
I think I'm going for resurrection remix or for some aosp. Any experience?
Best and happy new year .
foongaz said:
Thanx Stephron.
Yesterday I updated via .img the recovery (TWRP 3.2).
Now I'll look for bootloader and modem. Should I use the stock ones or are on xda some threads with better modems and bootloaders?
I think I'm going for resurrection remix or for some aosp. Any experience?
Best and happy new year .
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There are no custom modems and bootloaders.
Pwnycorn said:
There are no custom modems and bootloaders.
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:good:
Really appreciate your help folks. I didnt follow xda for a while and I felt obsolete somehow heheheh

Custom roms without magisk

Hello, could someone explain me why magisk is necessary for custom roms for our device? When bootloader boots custom kernel it should boot rest of the system without any problems but it bootloops even before bootanimation
I also need custom ROM without Magisk. Is any Oreo custom ROM supports SuperSU?
RR-O ROM+Gapps goes to bootloop without Magisk and RR-O ROM+(Gapps)+SuperSU goes to Bootloader mode.
RR-O ROM+Gapps+Velocity Kernel boots & works, but RR-O ROM+Gapps+Velocity Kernel+SuperSU goes to Bootloader mode.
So anyone can please help for any Oreo custom ROM + Gapps + any rooting app (SuperSU, Lineage addonSU, phh's SuperUser).
mjnck said:
Hello, could someone explain me why magisk is necessary for custom roms for our device? When bootloader boots custom kernel it should boot rest of the system without any problems but it bootloops even before bootanimation
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Have you figured it out yet? If not here, we go...
A Custom ROM is to give you 100% control, it's the point, and to have 100% control, the phone needs to be rooted to access the system.
In Linux, 'Root' means, what the Admin is in Windows...
Kind of pointless to install a custom rom, with limited control, of course you can root a stock rom too.
DoR3M3 said:
Have you figured it out yet? If not here, we go...
A Custom ROM is to give you 100% control, it's the point, and to have 100% control, the phone needs to be rooted to access the system.
In Linux, 'Root' means, what the Admin is in Windows...
Kind of pointless to install a custom rom, with limited control, of course you can root a stock rom too.
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Not necessarily. Custom roms may have up to date security patches vs out of date stock roms on older phones. And custom roms may have extra functionality especially on bare bones stock rom like the MiA1.
barrack1 said:
Not necessarily. Custom roms may have up to date security patches vs out of date stock roms on older phones. And custom roms may have extra functionality especially on bare bones stock rom like the MiA1.
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Yes of course all the 'Bells & Whistles' I didn't mention... But that's not the reason for rooting, which is what the OP asked...
Anyhow Custom ROMS give us many things, but it's about being in Control...
Cheers

Some questions about rooting, custom roms etc.

Hello.
First I'd like to say that i haven't ever tried anything like rooting my phone or custom roms so that you know what you're dealing with
Lately I've been bored with my s8 plus(SM-G955F). Was even considering buying a different phone but then i remembered reading about rooting and custom roms so i thought i might give it a try.
I've been reading a bit about rooting and roms but all the information and methods can be a little overwhelming for someone like me who doesn't really know what he's doing. Basically i need help.
While looking for custom rom i'd like to try i settled on renovate ice and i have some questions.
Do i need to root before flashing a custom rom or does the rom come rooted already?
From what i understand i have to start with installing TWRP with odin but what then? root or rom?
Basically if anyone would be kind enough to provide some links with steps i need to take to install that rom and root my device and not mess it up i'd be grateful.
In case you need it I'm on the latest OTA i've received.
build number: R16NW.G955FXXU1CRD7
batripe said:
Hello.
First I'd like to say that i haven't ever tried anything like rooting my phone or custom roms so that you know what you're dealing with
Lately I've been bored with my s8 plus(SM-G955F). Was even considering buying a different phone but then i remembered reading about rooting and custom roms so i thought i might give it a try.
I've been reading a bit about rooting and roms but all the information and methods can be a little overwhelming for someone like me who doesn't really know what he's doing. Basically i need help.
While looking for custom rom i'd like to try i settled on renovate ice and i have some questions.
Do i need to root before flashing a custom rom or does the rom come rooted already?
From what i understand i have to start with installing TWRP with odin but what then? root or rom?
Basically if anyone would be kind enough to provide some links with steps i need to take to install that rom and root my device and not mess it up i'd be grateful.
In case you need it I'm on the latest OTA i've received.
build number: R16NW.G955FXXU1CRD7
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Hello there , you do not need to root your to flash a custom rom . All you need is to backup your data for you own safety and flash TWRP recovery through Odin probram . Renovate ice is most famous and stable rom you can try . It has same UI as the stock rom . Little changes only you might wont see me . If you want to change UI you should for another rom . Also root comes with the rom inbuild, specificaly renovate ice has two options to chose, magisk or supersu . Personally i prefer Magisk before through this app ' you can' modify your system, its like xposed framework.
Link how to flash twrp recovery working on s8 plus, just be carefull to flash the correct image : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SqgHFcHLMw
Link how to flash a rom : https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-install-custom-rom-android/
Link for renovate ice s8/s8 plus xda : https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ovate-ice-g950-g955-android-7-0-aqdg-t3598040
So I installed TWRP like in the video.
Everything seemed to work i had a clean install of stock ore with twrp. When i tried to boot into twrp i had the "only official binaries" bootloop. So i flashed a bootloader and i was stuck on galaxy s8+ screen. Went into download mode to flash stock firmware but can't do anything. Stuck in download mode and can't flash anything now... How do i get out of it?
Edit:
Ok. Found a way to flash the bootloader. now I'm back to "only official binaries" bootloop.
Edit 2:
Ok managed to get everything to work. At least it appears so for now.
Had to flash nougat firmware then installed twrp, rom and root and it worked.
I thought something went wrong because it was very laggy but after rebooting it seems okay. We'll see how it goes from here.
Gonna google it and try to fix it but if anyone has any ideas i'd be grateful

Want some guidence and having some questions about custom rom.

I have moto g4 plus (2016) and want to install custom rom but I have some questions and without knowing about them i can't take the risk.so please answer sir.
1) There is 2 Twrp custom recovery one is 32 bit and second is 64 bit, so which is best ?
2) if I use 32 bit and flash 64 bit rom ,can it possible?
3) if No then if am use 64 bit Twrp and flash 32 bit rom accidentally ,can it will brick my device??
4) i am currently on stock rom android 7.0 , today most custom rom is based on 9.0 ,if I flash pie custom rom and after months i want revert back to stock or Oreo rom ,can i will do it? Because in some custom rom there is note that after flashing this rom you can not revert back lower version of rom.
5) where is rom take space if I flash it, means in ram ,internal storage???
Thanks in advance.i know this question is help for other noob:good:
keval3492 said:
I have moto g4 plus (2016) and want to install custom rom but I have some questions and without knowing about them i can't take the risk.so please answer sir.
1) There is 2 Twrp custom recovery one is 32 bit and second is 64 bit, so which is best ?
2) if I use 32 bit and flash 64 bit rom ,can it possible?
3) if No then if am use 64 bit Twrp and flash 32 bit rom accidentally ,can it will brick my device??
4) i am currently on stock rom android 7.0 , today most custom rom is based on 9.0 ,if I flash pie custom rom and after months i want revert back to stock or Oreo rom ,can i will do it? Because in some custom rom there is note that after flashing this rom you can not revert back lower version of rom.
5) where is rom take space if I flash it, means in ram ,internal storage???
Thanks in advance.i know this question is help for other noob:good:
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64bit recoveries can handle 32bit roms too. Use a 64bit recovery and everything is fine.
You cannot downgrade your bootloader from stock Oreo to stock nougat(your current Rom). Custom roms won't flash bootloaders,only stock roms.
Your whole flash storage of your device is divided into several partitions like system, data, boot, recovery, internal storage. That's why you have to deal with less memory in your internal storage(10 out of 16 for example).
You cannot(yeah, but don't do it) modify the partition size cause it's used to met some requirements.
The rom will be flashed into system/data partition, not internal storage but also uses ram of course
Thanks man , but can you elaborate my question on if I flash today custom rom on pie base and that is rumor on moto g4 plus that oreo update will launch soon and I also wait for it.so can i get that update if I am on pie custom rom.sorry for your answer ,i not understand that .
keval3492 said:
Thanks man , but can you elaborate my question on if I flash today custom rom on pie base and that is rumor on moto g4 plus that oreo update will launch soon and I also wait for it.so can i get that update if I am on pie custom rom.sorry for your answer ,i not understand that .
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Yes you can get official Oreo update if you are on Pie custom rom. You just need to go back to stock rom or flash the stock Oreo rom manually like the soak test.
Can you give me Twrp 64 bit link and also which custom rom do you prefer on gaming performance , battery performance and customisable wise? Thanks a lot...
keval3492 said:
Can you give me Twrp 64 bit link and also which custom rom do you prefer on gaming performance , battery performance and customisable wise? Thanks a lot...
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Here's a link for the 64 bit TWRP https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...recovery-twrp-3-2-1-unofficial-touch-t3722206 for flashing both 32 bit and 64 bit custom ROMs and TWRP flashables.
Of course, unlocking your bootloader and flashing a custom ROM via TWRP will unavoidably erase your device, so back up as necessary. Be also aware that flashing a custom ROM may necessitate flashing magisk as well, to get your device Google certified again.
As for a particular ROM, your best bet is to have a look at each custom ROM's page and particularly the first page and the last few pages. Both of those should give you information on how suitable the ROM is from other user's reports for your usage and also give you an idea how often the ROM is updated.
It is necessary for flashing magisk? Because magisk root my mobile and I don't want to do it right now.
keval3492 said:
It is necessary for flashing magisk? Because magisk root my mobile and I don't want to do it right now.
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For some apps, like banking apps for example, these apps may not function properly if they detect an unlocked bootloader, or if your device does not pass Google Play Store certification. If you're wanting to flash a custom ROM or a TWRP flashable, then you may have to consider flashing magisk for magisk hide. Magisk hide helps to hide your unlocked bootloader status and thus may get your device certified to use these apps. Up to you - depends on if you use apps that won't work if they detect your device has an unlocked bootloader.
Thanks sir for get me guide .What is athens when I open xda moto g4 plus and what is kernel and how it is important ??
keval3492 said:
Thanks sir for get me guide .What is athens when I open xda moto g4 plus and what is kernel and how it is important ??
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I'm guessing by Athens you mean athene? If so, athene is the device codename for the Moto G4/plus (2016). Custom ROMs and software designed for athene should work on our services, though please check the release dates of such software. That also means software built for another device codename may not work.
A kernel is part of the software communicating between the hardware and the software. Custom ROMs will come with one usually. If you choose to flash another kernel, ensure you flash the correct type of kernel - there are kernels for stock 7.0/6.0 (Motorola), 7.1 (custom) and kernels for custom 8.1/9.0 ROMs. These may not be cross compatible and as such if you flash the incorrect kernel to your device your device may fail to boot (buy then that's what TWRP backups are for). Due to the lack of source code for stock 8.1, I've not seen custom kernels built for the stock Motorola 8.1 stock ROM yet.
Thank you sir for guide me about athene and kernel ,so i choose custom rom only made for athene and kernel is also built in with custom rom.
I am on stock oreo on moto g4 plus ,it is same process in oreo for unlock bootloader??
keval3492 said:
I am on stock oreo on moto g4 plus ,it is same process in oreo for unlock bootloader??
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Please search within the correct rom thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...4-oreo-soak-test-update-t3871136/post78966322
I did not get proper answer from link you send ,please help for this..
keval3492 said:
I did not get proper answer from link you send ,please help for this..
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Should be the same process to unlock your bootloader, provided your motherboard is the same and you've still got your IMEI and software channel.
Can you elaborate what you said about motherboard and IMEI ,i am getting that method is same as nought but after that line i don't understand.
keval3492 said:
Can you elaborate what you said about motherboard and IMEI ,i am getting that method is same as nought but after that line i don't understand.
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When you unlock your bootloader, you need the unlock key. The unlock key is likely generated from and linked to your motherboard; if your motherboard had been changed, then you'd have to get a new unlock key.
If your IMEI is still present in your device and working, the unlock key should work. Some users with existing IMEI issues may not be able to unlock their bootloaders.
Basically, if your device is the same when you requested the unlock key, and everything is working okay, then unlocking should be the same as Nougat without any further steps. Back up, boot to fastboot and connect your device to your computer, then enter the unlock key command - with your key - on your computer in the minimal ADB terminal.
I changed my motherboard once and after that I unlock my bootloader also ,but I brick my device by installing 64 bit rom on 32 bit twrp version and after that I lock my bootloader and start as a fresh device till now.
Same key is still working for me as I want unlock my bootloader??
keval3492 said:
I changed my motherboard once and after that I unlock my bootloader also ,but I brick my device by installing 64 bit rom on 32 bit twrp version and after that I lock my bootloader and start as a fresh device till now.
Same key is still working for me as I want unlock my bootloader??
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Should be - use the same key as you used to unlock your bootloader before (after you had your motherboard changed). Be aware you will not be able to re-lock your bootloader if you unlock your bootloader at the moment. We do not have the Oreo firmware to lock stock Oreo devices or devices previously updated to stock Oreo firmware.
Oreo firmware means coding in CMD ??

Twrp for 11?

Hey guys,
Anyone have any info when either unofficial or official twrp is coming for Android 11? I made the mistake of upgrading to 11 from 10 then tried flashing twrp which bricked my phone ( I fixed it, no biggie ). I just really want to flash a custom ROM and I can't find any other custom recovery that will do that and side loading twrp also gives a crashdump error. Unless anyone knows how to downgrade to 10, the the furthest downgrade I've achieved is 11.0.0, once I hit 10.x.x I get either a black screen or crash dump.
It's a lot there, I know. Much appreciated everyone.
Edit: reading more on this forum, I think I found a way to flash a custom ROM on Android 11.. I guess you can side load roms? So I guess I'm going to give that a try. I'm so old school, like back in 2011.
I had the same problem. Im using the Lineage recovery atm an idk why tbh. I think i used it for rooting and for now im only using magisk modules to obtain some featurers.
Sideloading roms is a thing but man i miss those old HTC Hero., HTC Desire times. Last years i was using a P30 pro without root and im so happy to have root again.
Anyway read carefully and have fun. I would love some answers from your experience here.
Do0ks said:
I just really want to flash a custom ROM
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Most custom roms include all the files needed to flash the entire rom from a batch file. CrDroid for sure, but also Lineage. I'm sure there are more. My issue is not flashing, it's that all important nand backup from TWRP I miss the most. Switching roms is a lot more tedious when you have to re-install everything to revert back to your old setup.
Twrp for 8 and 8 pro may not happen ever, encryption is the problem
TWRP doesn't look promising considering the time that has passed since 8 launch...

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