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Is it safe to remove the dmservice apk if I don't plan to do OTAs? Does this app do anything else besides check for updates (if that's truly the purpose of this app)?
Sincitybronze said:
Is it safe to remove the dmservice apk if I don't plan to do OTAs? Does this app do anything else besides check for updates (if that's truly the purpose of this app)?
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Do you really want to risk it? Why do people have a compulsion to start erasing stuff off their phones? Are you running out of space? Does the presence of unused programs just bug you?
Maybe he is trying to save some RAM or something?? Who knows...but I would check if it interferes with any important system apps/processes first. If he has no need for the OTA updates then I don't see the issue. Maybe a more informed person can help this person out.
deez1234 said:
Maybe he is trying to save some RAM or something?? Who knows...but I would check if it interferes with any important system apps/processes first. If he has no need for the OTA updates then I don't see the issue. Maybe a more informed person can help this person out.
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Has anyone ever run out of RAM using a Vibrant? I've never dropped below 60mb free. From talking to G1 owners, this is pretty amazing.
I am curious for an answer too, I am rooted and running the JI6 that I flashed from here. Today my phone now displays "Connecting to DM server.......". It has been like this for several hours now. I can't seem to make the process not come back. t continues to autostart. Any ideas anyone????
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Has anyone ever run out of RAM using a Vibrant? I've never dropped below 60mb free. From talking to G1 owners, this is pretty amazing.
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I agree that it is very hard to run out of RAM, I was just stating that because maybe the OP just wants to free up whatever he can. It's not gonna hurt anyone if the OP does it...or maybe it will, judging from some of the responses. All i wanted to do was help this person get their question answered. Harmless if you ask me! This is in no way a personal attack by the way, lol. It's quite hard for me to sense sarcasm through text...unless IT'S IN ALL CAPS.
I don't see any reason for it to hurt anything. I am running a backup now so that I can remove it and see what happens. I will update once it has been removed with a status.
Yeah, I just generally go by two rules of thumb: (1) If it ain't broke, don't fix it, and (2) If you don't know what it does, don't mess with it. There are plenty of services that run but are not obvious as to their purpose. I just wouldn't mess with it unless you feel like it's detrimental to your phone.
Typically I wouldn't, but this seems to be causing some battery drain. I will experiment, if anything goes wrong I can always restore my backup.
That's completely understandable. I agree once again. I think the OP may just be looking at the running process and thinks removing it and any future update will be beneficial. I am not quite sure of the motive but some people look at things differently. Maybe the OP will chime in with some of the reasons other than just disabling updates. That is yet to be seen, so until he posts unfortunately we won't know.
Ok, so here is the process I went through.
Went to Settings>Applications>Running Services>
Saw this:
DMService
com.wssyncmldm
***** RUN A BACKUP BEFORE RUNNING THESE COMMANDS! I am not responsible for anything that happens to your phone blah blah blah.....*******
Connected to the phone via adb
Ran the following commands:
su
# busybox mount -o remount -rw /dev/block/stl9
# rm wssyncmldm.apk
# rm wssyncmldm.odex
# rm wssyncmlnps.apk
# rm wssyncmlnps.odex
DM immediately stopped.
Rebooted the phone with no issues.
Will continue to monitor for issues.
So far so good.
Let us know how it affects your battery life or if it does anything nice for you at all. Thanks for being the guinea pig! Seems as if you did it more properly than I would have, lol.
No worries, I wouldn't think it would hurt anything to remove it. But, I have been known to be wrong before. Anyway, it should make quite a difference on the battery, my phone had been trying to connect to the DM Server for several hours and I was seeing a consistent drain. About 10% per hour. Now it seems to have settled a bit. With normal usage I haven't seen any FC's. WI-FI, BT and GPS are all working. It doesn't seem to have affected anything yet. Yeehaw...
Yes, battery life is the reason I'm interested in this. I removed the media hub and drm and experienced improved battery life. I thought eliminating dmservice might have a similar effect.
So far it seems to have made a difference. But the only time it was causing drain was wen it was trying to connect to the DM Server. I haven't yet seen it start back up, it appears as though it is completely gone.
Nice, hopefully this helps some people who are interested and are having issues with the service.
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aksoutherland said:
So far it seems to have made a difference. But the only time it was causing drain was wen it was trying to connect to the DM Server. I haven't yet seen it start back up, it appears as though it is completely gone.
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Thank you so much for testing this. I uninstalled with titanium.
Titanium pro & freeze it
Vibrant + xda app
aksoutherland said:
I am curious for an answer too, I am rooted and running the JI6 that I flashed from here. Today my phone now displays "Connecting to DM server.......". It has been like this for several hours now. I can't seem to make the process not come back. t continues to autostart. Any ideas anyone????
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Aks: is there an app you use to see which processes are actively trying to connect to a server? How can I get information like this? Thank you.
Using Titanium backup, I froze the DMservice and a few other DRM services and the media hub. I'm running bionic fusion if that matters. I have not noticed any adverse reactions and battery life does seem a bit better. I have not seen the error trying to connect to the dm service since doing this. If you just use the task manager, the service will start back up again after some period of time. Other threads about battery life have stated that these services are known to drain the battery. Freezing seems a good inbetween step to see how things go.
Edit Update.
So my extremely subjective interpretation of battery life is that its better and by simply freezing the services, they don't return. Maybe they do upon reboot; not sure. Before freezing the services, my phone would lose approximately 4% of battery within 1.5 hours of unplugging from power. Not the case this time. I have been unplugged for almost 2 hours and have lost negligible amount. I also turned off a bunch of update/notification services from seesmic, facebook, gtasks, etc.
Was curious about this feature of the phone. ...I know what encryption is. ... but, in regards to phones, I do not. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Like, what it does exactly, how it works, does implementing it in my device effect it on an os level or kernel?...any other general information about it is very appreciated. ..... tried google, but it just kept bringing up "15 things you must know about your s5" articles and the like.
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Skynyrd420 said:
Was curious about this feature of the phone. ...I know what encryption is. ... but, in regards to phones, I do not. Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Like, what it does exactly, how it works, does implementing it in my device effect it on an os level or kernel?...any other general information about it is very appreciated. ..... tried google, but it just kept bringing up "15 things you must know about your s5" articles and the like.
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You can encrypt the device (Settings > Security >Encrypt). However, you will NOT be able to use the fingerprint scanner if you do this. This process takes around one hour and scrambles all the data. Every time you turn on the device you need to enter a passcode before it boots. This helps to provide an extra layer of security on top of the regular PIN or password.
Read more: http://www.itpro.co.uk/mobile/22034/samsung-galaxy-s5-top-15-tips-and-tricks#ixzz319NY0W4G
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You can encrypt the device (Settings > Security >Encrypt). However, you will NOT be able to use the fingerprint scanner if you do this. This process takes around one hour and scrambles all the data. Every time you turn on the device you need to enter a passcode before it boots. This helps to provide an extra layer of security on top of the regular PIN or password.
Read more: http://www.itpro.co.uk/mobile/22034/samsung-galaxy-s5-top-15-tips-and-tricks#ixzz319NY0W4G
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Also recovering data off a damaged phone is impossible.
Unless you require your data to be fully encrypted and don't care if you lose it, because it is backed up; do not encrypt.
Thanks guys. Does anyone know the processes the phone goes through while encrypting? Or decrypting. ... just wondering if it would be beneficial at all If someone did a log cat while doing both, just to see if there is a hole that could have an exploit vulnerability. ... and, would dalvik vs ART during the process change that answer, since you're running "custom"while ART is on. ... I'm 99% sure it isn't going to help s#!%, but, never know, little things usually get overlooked.
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Following up with my new work S5 (thanks to the guys in my other thread who schooled me on Knox). Bottom line, we moved from Blackberry to the (our) neutered version of the S5. I am trying to replicate some of the simpler functionality of the BB with the new phone. Now, I have a rooted G3 as a personal phone, so I know how Android works pretty much, but the work phone is pretty locked down. We use Knox for work email and stuff, and the Play store is whitelisted to select apps. No free downloading. Here's what I am trying to do...
#1
My BB has a stupidly simple magnet in the case, so when I put the device in the holster, it went to vibrate-only mode. When I took it out, it would go back to the normal sound profile. No fuss, no user intervention needed. So, TecTiles is one of the apps I was able to get installed, and I ordered some. I can program them to set the phone to silent mode, but am I correct that I would still need to trigger the device to come OUT of silent mode? It's not automatic when it loses connection to the tile?
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I have the wireless charging back plate, and I have two issues. First, the "DU-DUNK" sound when the device gets fully charged, discharged a little, then starts charging again. I can't install Battery Doctor to silence it, I can't root to silence it. Can I write a tag with enough specificity to allow sounds for text and phone calls (I have an on call job) and keep the rest quiet?
The other nut kicker is the simple act of going in to clock mode (like a nite stand). Samsung removed the clock from Daydream (FFS), and I can't install any from Play (all I have tried are locked out). Any ideas on that one? Silly as it sounds, I used the BB as my alarm clock, especially while traveling. Timley looks GREAT. Can't install it.
Any help from the pros here would be appreciated.
ret4425 said:
Following up with my new work S5 (thanks to the guys in my other thread who schooled me on Knox). Bottom line, we moved from Blackberry to the (our) neutered version of the S5. I am trying to replicate some of the simpler functionality of the BB with the new phone. Now, I have a rooted G3 as a personal phone, so I know how Android works pretty much, but the work phone is pretty locked down. We use Knox for work email and stuff, and the Play store is whitelisted to select apps. No free downloading. Here's what I am trying to do...
#1
My BB has a stupidly simple magnet in the case, so when I put the device in the holster, it went to vibrate-only mode. When I took it out, it would go back to the normal sound profile. No fuss, no user intervention needed. So, TecTiles is one of the apps I was able to get installed, and I ordered some. I can program them to set the phone to silent mode, but am I correct that I would still need to trigger the device to come OUT of silent mode? It's not automatic when it loses connection to the tile?
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I have the wireless charging back plate, and I have two issues. First, the "DU-DUNK" sound when the device gets fully charged, discharged a little, then starts charging again. I can't install Battery Doctor to silence it, I can't root to silence it. Can I write a tag with enough specificity to allow sounds for text and phone calls (I have an on call job) and keep the rest quiet?
The other nut kicker is the simple act of going in to clock mode (like a nite stand). Samsung removed the clock from Daydream (FFS), and I can't install any from Play (all I have tried are locked out). Any ideas on that one? Silly as it sounds, I used the BB as my alarm clock, especially while traveling. Timley looks GREAT. Can't install it.
Any help from the pros here would be appreciated.
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I didn't read your other thread, but do you have the ability to use outside Media sources? MicroSD or MicroUSB flash drives?
If so, perhaps consider locating .apk's that you want/need for your functions and side load them by running the .apk's from the external drive.
What I use... http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Andro...-fkmr0&keywords=sandisk+flash+drive+dual+mode
And I can't imagine them whitelisting the app to go with it, as it is a storage device, not something malicious.
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I didn't read your other thread, but do you have the ability to use outside Media sources? MicroSD or MicroUSB flash drives?
If so, perhaps consider locating .apk's that you want/need for your functions and side load them by running the .apk's from the external drive.
What I use... http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Andro...-fkmr0&keywords=sandisk+flash+drive+dual+mode
And I can't imagine them whitelisting the app to go with it, as it is a storage device, not something malicious.
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Thanks for responding. I'm sorry for sounding like a n00b, is this functionally any different from downloading an .apk on the SD card and installing it through a file explorer? As an aside, the way the restrictions work, the apps will install for a brief moment, and then they are uninstalled by the device. Is this method any different?
Thanks
ret4425 said:
Thanks for responding. I'm sorry for sounding like a n00b, is this functionally any different from downloading an .apk on the SD card and installing it through a file explorer? As an aside, the way the restrictions work, the apps will install for a brief moment, and then they are uninstalled by the device. Is this method any different?
Thanks
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If you can manually put the .apk on the SD card, or microusb capable flash drive, it may work and stick. Not guaranteed as I have not tried on a phone like yours. GL
kprice8 said:
If you can manually put the .apk on the SD card, or microusb capable flash drive, it may work and stick. Not guaranteed as I have not tried on a phone like yours. GL
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Yeah no dice, it works more like a removal than a block. It will install any app, then remove it when it checks it against the security policy. It's weird, some apps that seem just as innocuous (and are not on the list) install and work. Who knows. The whole thing feels very...unfinished. Like the whole Android enterprise thing isn't quite all put together yet. But I guess free it free, even if it's nerf'd free.
For those of us that were dumb enough to take the NK1 OTA without researching, damning us to an eternity without root, could we potentially worsen the possibility that a root exploit be found by taking the Lollipop OTA as well?
I'd say that if you took the 4.4.4. Update go ahead and upgrade to Lollipop because the chances of someone finding a exploit for 4.4.4 now is slim to none, because if a developer does still have this phone they're gonna be working on Lollipop.
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I'd say that if you took the 4.4.4. Update go ahead and upgrade to Lollipop because the chances of someone finding a exploit for 4.4.4 now is slim to none, because if a developer does still have this phone they're gonna be working on Lollipop.
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OneClickRoot
Okay, doing some research... I am not going to try and update my Note 3 to Lollipop and damn myself to a pit of rootless use... Would someone please test the theory that OneClickRoot will work for rooting the Verizon Galaxy Note 3 as they claim to be able to do Here.
Just curious... what about being unrooted makes a phone useless? I am just wondering.. i always root mine but thinking bout it, i don't really use anything that HAS to have root?
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Just curious... what about being unrooted makes a phone useless? I am just wondering.. i always root mine but thinking bout it, i don't really use anything that HAS to have root?
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It all depends on what you're trying to do with your phone. It's never going to make it "useless" as a phone. If you have a specific functionality that you're trying to accomplish that requires root and plan to use it all the time, then perhaps the phone could become somewhat useless to you.
To most people it tends to mean that they aren't going to be able to use their native tethering app without having to use some third party software like FoxFi. Rooting your phone means nothing more than giving it's user the ability to grant root (administrative god) privileges to the device. Click happy people will grant root access to anything that asks for it, therefore making it a security disaster to be left available by default. The advanced user can not only be more cautious as to granting root permission, but also maintain what is and is not allowed root at any given time. If done well a user can even maintain a more secure device with root by having access to everything.
Personally I have several different applications and functionalities that require root that I wasn't trying to use when I mistakenly took the 4.4.4 OTA update. They are permanently lost to me as long as I own this device now until a new exploit is found. However, the phone is still not at all useless. It works great as a phone, text messaging device, internet browser, camera, etc... I just miss the availability of control that I no longer have after losing the option to root.
Fwiw, I actually recommend not rooting your device unless you have specific reasoning for it and intend to be extremely cautious granting root access.
Also, if anyone wonders, I did go ahead and take the Lollipop OTA. It performs amazingly and is very aesthetically pleasing!
JeSsEiCp said:
It all depends on what you're trying to do with your phone. It's never going to make it "useless" as a phone. If you have a specific functionality that you're trying to accomplish that requires root and plan to use it all the time, then perhaps the phone could become somewhat useless to you.
To most people it tends to mean that they aren't going to be able to use their native tethering app without having to use some third party software like FoxFi. Rooting your phone means nothing more than giving it's user the ability to grant root (administrative god) privileges to the device. Click happy people will grant root access to anything that asks for it, therefore making it a security disaster to be left available by default. The advanced user can not only be more cautious as to granting root permission, but also maintain what is and is not allowed root at any given time. If done well a user can even maintain a more secure device with root by having access to everything.
Personally I have several different applications and functionalities that require root that I wasn't trying to use when I mistakenly took the 4.4.4 OTA update. They are permanently lost to me as long as I own this device now until a new exploit is found. However, the phone is still not at all useless. It works great as a phone, text messaging device, internet browser, camera, etc... I just miss the availability of control that I no longer have after losing the option to root.
Fwiw, I actually recommend not rooting your device unless you have specific reasoning for it and intend to be extremely cautious granting root access.
Also, if anyone wonders, I did go ahead and take the Lollipop OTA. It performs amazingly and is very aesthetically pleasing!
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Very well stated. I agree with you about the uses of rooting as well as how the OTA 5.0 is performing. If you're already unrootable on 4.4.4, then you might as well upgrade to 5.0.
Icetech3 said:
Just curious... what about being unrooted makes a phone useless? I am just wondering.. i always root mine but thinking bout it, i don't really use anything that HAS to have root?
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It unlocks an array of possiblities that would not normally be alloud llike clean up bloatware, runing certain apps that you dont have permission to, tweaking your phone for performance, fixing bugs that were missed in recent update, xposed function for example, installing different roms, customizing the look and feel of your phone, hacking, development, security testing, just to name a few which start with root and if you have a unlocked bootloader endless possiblities especially on divice like this.
JeSsEiCp said:
It all depends on what you're trying to do with your phone. It's never going to make it "useless" as a phone. If you have a specific functionality that you're trying to accomplish that requires root and plan to use it all the time, then perhaps the phone could become somewhat useless to you.
To most people it tends to mean that they aren't going to be able to use their native tethering app without having to use some third party software like FoxFi. Rooting your phone means nothing more than giving it's user the ability to grant root (administrative god) privileges to the device. Click happy people will grant root access to anything that asks for it, therefore making it a security disaster to be left available by default. The advanced user can not only be more cautious as to granting root permission, but also maintain what is and is not allowed root at any given time. If done well a user can even maintain a more secure device with root by having access to everything.
Personally I have several different applications and functionalities that require root that I wasn't trying to use when I mistakenly took the 4.4.4 OTA update. They are permanently lost to me as long as I own this device now until a new exploit is found. However, the phone is still not at all useless. It works great as a phone, text messaging device, internet browser, camera, etc... I just miss the availability of control that I no longer have after losing the option to root.
Fwiw, I actually recommend not rooting your device unless you have specific reasoning for it and intend to be extremely cautious granting root access.
Also, if anyone wonders, I did go ahead and take the Lollipop OTA. It performs amazingly and is very aesthetically pleasing!
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Is there any change in the strength of the signal. When i first got the device i had service everywhere along the way like many other people on here i be having issues with connection any improvement in the latest update or is it just more bloatware and beefed up security.
Sammguy said:
Is there any change in the strength of the signal. When i first got the device i had service everywhere along the way like many other people on here i be having issues with connection any improvement in the latest update or is it just more bloatware and beefed up security.
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I've been keeping an eye on my signal strength over the past few days. While I still have stable connectivity mostly everywhere I go, I have noticed a minor loss in signal strength. At home, my signal strength has dropped 1.5 bars on average as well as having a more difficult holding 4G (will switch to stronger 3G) in locations where 4G strength struggles.
I also noticed it switch to 3G once at my home and then switch back to 4G on it's own after 5-10 minutes and I live 1/4 mile from a cell site where I usually maintained "all bars" before Lollipop.
I haven't suffered any usage issues or bandwidth losses from this yet, but I figured I would answer your question and chime in that I have notice a minor overall signal strength loss.
Thanks dor your reply.
I've got a problem with my S8 which is running latest, official, non-rooted XEO firmware. Specifically, it uses battery like crazy and heats up whilst doing nothing. This smells like a virus / malware infection or just... well, the last update was in December 2021 so it's also possible some system component is wonky OR... <shivers> some rootkit? I'm generally rather careful when installing apps, most of which will be coming in from official sources (Google Store) or at least fairly trusted sources.
Every so often I'll get a warning that a system component is using too much CPU and I should restart the phone - which obviously doesn't help at all. Also the battery drain is reported primarily by Android System and System Core (29 and 15% respectively). Battery usage stats generally don't add up because the listings don't add up to 100%. :/
I know the S8 is an old phone... and I know there are probably steps I should take prior to asking here - like a factory reset. But I'm really sceptical of doing a factory reset simply because I've got so much stuff on the phone that, while not impossible to backup, is certainly annoying (authenticator or banking apps for example - and I don't think the standard backup tools like those available from Google or Samsung backup such apps).
So I'd rather try some solutions or methods of dealing with the damned thing without resetting the phone first. Is there anything I can do?
You need to find the root cause. It may be a 3rd party using one or more of the Samsung system apps running under Android services, lol Legend for there are many... all lumped together.
A firewall with logging can help. Karma Firewall is what I use, uses almost no battery. Being rooted you have more options... use them.
Malware is always a possibility.
3rd party apps can cause hell. I don't allow any social media apps on the phone, ever.
Try in safe mode... if things calm down it's likely a 3rd party app. If so start going through the installed apps.
Clear system cache.
blackhawk said:
You need to find the root cause. It may be a 3rd party using one or more of the Samsung system apps running under Android services, lol Legend for there are many... all lumped together.
A firewall with logging can help. Karma Firewall is what I use, uses almost no battery.
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Will try that, thanks!
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Being rooted you have more options... use them.
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The phone is NON-rooted.
blackhawk said:
Malware is always a possibility.
3rd party apps can cause hell. I don't allow any social media apps on the phone, ever.
Try in safe mode... if things calm down it's likely a 3rd party app. If so start going through the installed apps.
Clear system cache.
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Oh, safe mode! I'll try that too! Thanks!
Shaamaan said:
Will try that, thanks!
The phone is NON-rooted.
Oh, safe mode! I'll try that too! Thanks!
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Sorry about the root thing, my bad.
If you're running on Android 9 or lower Karma Firewall's logging feature is fully active otherwise not. Samsung store>Galaxy Labs> Battery Tracker can be useful.
I use Accubattery's history page to get a quick idea of charge/discharge rates.
I use Device Care>storage>clean as well.
Make sure no cloud apps are running in the background.
Update: in safe mode the phone doesn't heat up and battery usage seems normal. So it's probably some app.
Alas, the firewall wasn't very helpful - it seemed that apps that attempted accessing the internet were your usual suspects - Play Store, One Drive or other sync apps, Vanced.
Any other suggestions on possibly nailing down the culprit?
PS. I've also decided to send Samsung an error report via the Members app - I don't know what their reply times are and I honestly don't expect much from them but who knows? Perhaps they'll come through.
Shaamaan said:
Update: in safe mode the phone doesn't heat up and battery usage seems normal. So it's probably some app.
Alas, the firewall wasn't very helpful - it seemed that apps that attempted accessing the internet were your usual suspects - Play Store, One Drive or other sync apps, Vanced.
Any other suggestions on possibly nailing down the culprit?
PS. I've also decided to send Samsung an error report via the Members app - I don't know what their reply times are and I honestly don't expect much from them but who knows? Perhaps they'll come through.
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Why other than maybe text messages is anything syncing? Take out the trash and go from there.
The ones that are connecting every minute or more when not open are prime suspects.
Some apps like Brave browser need to be closed out when not in use or they eat battery.
You can also try a hard reboot.
Update!
I left the phone in safe mode overnight. I mean, it seemed like things were better, so at least I'd have a stable phone.
Well, in the morning I was greeted with a severely depleted battery (went from 100 to 40 in the span of 6 hours) and I got the "high CPU usage" warning popup. The phone wasn't as hot to the touch tho.
So... Whatever is going on seems to happen also in safe mode, albeit less often? Or perhaps it's less "severe" where it doesn't heat up the phone but the drain is still there? But since safe mode is affected it's probably NOT an app, right?
At this point I'm completely baffled. Any other ideas?
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Update!
I left the phone in safe mode overnight. I mean, it seemed like things were better, so at least I'd have a stable phone.
Well, in the morning I was greeted with a severely depleted battery (went from 100 to 40 in the span of 6 hours) and I got the "high CPU usage" warning popup. The phone wasn't as hot to the touch tho.
So... Whatever is going on seems to happen also in safe mode, albeit less often? Or perhaps it's less "severe" where it doesn't heat up the phone but the drain is still there? But since safe mode is affected it's probably NOT an app, right?
At this point I'm completely baffled. Any other ideas?
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Hard reset... hold power button until it powers off.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services at night, see what that does.
OK, I'm baffled. I feel like I didn't really do anything but the phone is now running fine. Battery drain now might be better than ever!
Warms up on usage, obviously, but when idle it's nice and cool and battery drain seems minimal. I'll... leave it for a few days to see how this develops. It's very difficult to tell what the heck's the case here.
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OK, I'm baffled. I feel like I didn't really do anything but the phone is now running fine. Battery drain now might be better than ever!
Warms up on usage, obviously, but when idle it's nice and cool and battery drain seems minimal. I'll... leave it for a few days to see how this develops. It's very difficult to tell what the heck's the case here.
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Retrace what you did. Reason being you may need to do it again. Really most times all you need to do is just "play" with it a bit (a lot). Almost impossible to crash a stock load, so explore and learn by playing with it. You are what you load and download; be careful with 3rd party apps they are the biggest potential hazards.
Once you have a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission, let it be. Don't update or upgrade it.
Updates can and do break Sammy's. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load is over 2yo. Rock solid stable and it runs like a bat out of hell with minimal maintenance. Security isn't an issue.
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Retrace what you did. Reason being you may need to do it again. Really most times all you need to do is just "play" with it a bit (a lot). Almost impossible to crash a stock load, so explore and learn by playing with it. You are what you load and download; be careful with 3rd party apps they are the biggest potential hazards.
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I have a suspicion this might have been some Samsung app (my bet's on Bixby) since those are likely still able to run in Safe Mode that got updated and then fixed...? Does that make sense?
blackhawk said:
Once you have a fast, stable OS that's fulfilling its mission, let it be. Don't update or upgrade it.
Updates can and do break Sammy's. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load is over 2yo. Rock solid stable and it runs like a bat out of hell with minimal maintenance. Security isn't an issue.
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I'm concerned about the last bit. I mean, upgrading to a new Android version is one thing but security updates are common, no?
Shaamaan said:
I have a suspicion this might have been some Samsung app (my bet's on Bixby) since those are likely still able to run in Safe Mode that got updated and then fixed...? Does that make sense?
I'm concerned about the last bit. I mean, upgrading to a new Android version is one thing but security updates are common, no?
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Kill wittle bixby... you read it EULA?☠
It's more than one apk though. Takes a while to optimize a Sammy the first time
Well... if it's set up and used right Android 9 will run securely in the real world. No saving dumb bunnies anyway; they'll still get tagged even with the latest version
The proof is in my hand. Loaded over 2+ years ago and this N10+ UI version 1.5 is running clean like a bat out of hell. If I do get malware I can't erraticate in an hour or so, factory reset and change passwords.
My data is redundantly backed* up 4+ times, plus the onboard SD card used as a data drive. I'm ready to reload right now if I have to...
A malware forced reload is still less trouble than constantly updating and having the updates screw things up. That means more troubleshooting, finding new work arounds and still maybe needing a factory reset on top of all that. No.
Not vaxed either... not buying the hype.
*critical data must be redundantly backed up or sooner or latter it will likely be lost. Never encrypt data drives as you are the most likely to be locked out!
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Kill wittle bixby... you read it EULA?☠
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Oh I'd love that - but it's a system app and removing those without root is kind of... impossible? I can look into disabling it completely however - I never use it anyway. Since it's not a single app - any chance you got a link to the list of apps that need manual disabling?
Anyway, I'm still getting those damned warnings. The phone isn't constantly hot however, which is some improvement.
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Oh I'd love that - but it's a system app and removing those without root is kind of... impossible? I can look into disabling it completely however - I never use it anyway. Since it's not a single app - any chance you got a link to the list of apps that need manual disabling?
Anyway, I'm still getting those damned warnings. The phone isn't constantly hot however, which is some improvement.
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Package Disabler kills bixby proper.
You can also disable it with an adb edit. That's one of the first things I do.
Bixby is a hot mess best dump along the interstate... like Google Assistant it needs external servers for many of its functions. I may change my mind but it's eula is like eating dry hardtack for breakfast.